*Mrs. OSWALD. When he was away from me, he told me that he missed me.
Senator RUSSELL. You don't think that's an indication that he loved
you?*
*Mrs. OSWALD. This shows--this would show that he loved me. He was a
dual personality.
Senator RUSSELL. Split personality.
Mrs. OSWALD. Split personality--that's it.
Senator RUSSELL. Mrs. Oswald, I noticed that one of the witnesses,
I've forgotten which one it was, that ran the boarding house where Lee
lived, testified that he called someone every night and talked to them
at some length in a foreign language. That couldn't have been anyone
except you, could it, that he was calling?* **
*Mrs. OSWALD. I believe that I was the person he talked to.
Senator RUSSELL. He did call you quite frequently, did he not when you
were in Irving and he was in Dallas, for example?
Mrs. OSWALD. Every day.
Senator RUSSELL. But he didn't call you to abuse you over the phone,
did he?* **
*Mrs. OSWALD. Of course not.
Senator RUSSELL. It was the ordinary small talk you would have between
a man and his wife--he would ask you about how the children were--one
of them--was?*
*Mrs. OSWALD. He always talked about our daughter June.
Senator RUSSELL. Did he ever say anything about, "I love you" or
anything like that over the phone?**
Mrs. OSWALD. (no response).
Mr. GOPADZE. Did he?
*Mrs. OSWALD. Yes.
Senator RUSSELL. He did?
*Mrs. OSWALD. He did.
Senator RUSSELL. Now, you've testified before, and I'm just going on
recollection, but I'm sure I'm right about this, that he told you in
New Orleans that he was going to Mexico City and that he was going by
bus and that a round trip would be much cheaper than a one-way fare.
I noticed something in the paper the other day where you had found a
one-way ticket or stub on the bus from Mexico City to Dallas, I believe
it was. How did you happen to come into possession of that stub?*
*Mrs. OSWALD. You say round trip was cheaper than one-way?
Senator RUSSELL. Yes; that's what you testified he told you in New
Orleans when he said he was going. But here, according to the press--I
don't know--a one-way stub turns up where he came back here to Dallas.
Where did you get that stub?*
*Mrs. OSWALD. My statement apparently was misinterpreted in the record,
because Lee stated that the cost of the ticket, say, from Dallas to
Mexico is cheaper than it is from Mexico City to Dallas or from one
point to Mexico and from Mexico to that same point.
Senator RUSSELL. Well, that very easily could have become confused in
translation, but it certainly is in there.*
Mr. RANKIN. I think they have confused your question, Senator, I think
they have confused your question. I think they think that you were
saying that a round trip was cheaper than one way? Or--two ways?
Senator RUSSELL. I'm sorry, Mr. Gregory. You misunderstood it. I didn't
mean that a round trip was cheaper than one way. I meant that a round
trip was cheaper than to go there and back on individual tickets--than
two ways.
Mr. GREGORY. She understood you correctly. I misunderstood you,
Senator. I'm sorry.
*Mrs. OSWALD. The fact remains, according to Lee, that it is cheaper
from Mexico--a one-way ticket from Mexico City, say, to Dallas costs
less than from Dallas to Mexico, Mexico City. Or vice versa.
Senator RUSSELL. Be that as it may, how about the stub?
*Mrs. OSWALD. I found the stub of this ticket approximately 2 weeks ago
when working with Priscilla Johnson on the book. Three weeks.
*Three weeks ago--I found this stub of a ticket among old magazines,
Spanish magazines, and there was a television program also in Spanish
and there was the stub of this ticket.
Mrs. OSWALD. But this was, you know, a piece of paper and I didn't know
this was a ticket.
Senator RUSSELL. You didn't know it was a ticket?
Mrs. OSWALD. No.
Senator RUSSELL. Until you showed it to Miss Johnson?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes--it was in the TV book and then Mr. Liebeler called me
on telephone and asked me some questions about Mexico.
Senator RUSSELL. Yes?
Mrs. OSWALD. And I told him, "Just a minute, I'll go and inquire
and tell him what I have," and I told him I have some kind of piece
of paper. I don't know what it is. I don't know whether it would be
interested--the Commission, and somebody who was at my house one
time----
*Read what was on the stub.
Senator RUSSELL. You could read the stub all right, could you, Mrs.
Oswald? There wasn't anything complicated there, you could read
"One-way ticket," couldn't you? You know that much English?*
*Mrs. OSWALD. It was a mixture of Spanish and English.
Senator RUSSELL. Oh, I see--it had it both ways, and the name of the
bus company, too, perhaps.
Mrs. OSWALD. I didn't understand this in languages--you can't say this.
Senator RUSSELL. Where had that magazine been that had this bus ticket
in it, was anything else in it, any tickets to bull fights or anywhere
else?*
*Mrs. OSWALD. I turned all of this material over to the FBI, thinking
that they might find something of interest in it. I did not try to
determine for myself what it was.
Senator RUSSELL. Was it in the possessions that were removed from Mrs.
Paine's room, or was it in some of Lee's material that was moved from
his boardinghouse?*
Mrs. OSWALD. It was with Mrs. Paine.
Senator RUSSELL. Didn't you testify, Mrs. Oswald, that Lee couldn't
read Spanish, when you were testifying before? What was he doing with a
Spanish magazine?
Mrs. OSWALD. It wasn't a Spanish magazine, it was a TV program.
Senator RUSSELL. Pardon?
Mrs. OSWALD. It was a TV program.
*It was not a Spanish magazine, it was a TV program.
Senator RUSSELL. Oh, it was not a magazine, it was a TV program. I
understood you to say it was a Spanish magazine? I'm sorry.
*Mrs. OSWALD. I found all this among my old magazines and newspapers,
that I was collecting after the assassination of the President, and
there also were English books which could have been in that small
suitcase in which I put everything.
Senator RUSSELL. How did the FBI happen to overlook that when they
made the raid out there at Mrs. Paine's? I thought they carried off
everything you had out there, practically?*
*Mrs. OSWALD. The reason they overlooked this particular suitcase is
because I took it with me to----
**To the hotel--the first night they moved us.
*When we stayed in the hotel.
It was in Dallas.
Senator RUSSELL. It was in Dallas. That's when they were at the big
hotel--where you spent one night there?
*Mrs. OSWALD. It was in Dallas and I took it with me because there were
children's books.
Senator RUSSELL. I thought the FBI had already removed your passports
and your diploma and everything before that time?
*Mrs. OSWALD. The first day when Lee was arrested, the FBI made a
search.
Mr. GOPADZE. The FBI or police.
Mr. GREGORY. The FBI or police.
Senator RUSSELL. I believe it was the police then.
*Mrs. OSWALD. The police made the search in the Paine's house.
Senator RUSSELL. Yes.
*Mrs. OSWALD. And everything was there. I did not take anything with me
that first day when I was arrested.
Senator RUSSELL. When you returned to Mrs. Paine's you found they had
left this particular program there with this bus stub? You testified
they had removed your passport and your diploma and Lee's union cards
and Social Security card and everything else--I was just wondering how
they happened to leave this particular article with the bus stub in it?*
Mrs. OSWALD. **I never retained that for any special reason.