Mr. JENNER. You have now put--he is indicating the fence. And that is a
lattice or slat fence?
Mr. SURREY. That is a solid fence there. And then it is latticed along
the alley.
Mr. JENNER. Which way does the front of General Walker's house face--on
Turtle Creek Boulevard?
Mr. SURREY. On Turtle Creek.
Mr. JENNER. All right. That will be helpful to us. We will just set
that exhibit aside for the moment.
Some of these photographs I am now about to show you--I now show you a
photograph, Commission Exhibit No. 5, Item No. 369. Do you recognize
that?
Mr. SURREY. Yes, I do. It is a photo of the back of General Walker's
home.
Mr. JENNER. All right. Now, returning to your plat, Commission Exhibit
No. 1005, is that the side of General Walker's house that faces the
church?
Mr. SURREY. No.
Mr. JENNER. It is the side--is it the side that faces Dr. Jackson's
home?
Mr. SURREY. No.
Mr. JENNER. Is it the side that faces onto or toward Turtle Creek
Boulevard?
Mr. SURREY. No; it is not.
Mr. JENNER. Is it the side that faces toward the alley which you have
drawn on Commission Exhibit No. 1005?
Mr. SURREY. Yes; it is.
Mr. JENNER. Fine. Now, you will notice in that photograph an
automobile, but no license plate, and there appears to be obliterated
an area in which a license plate might have appeared on that car.
Now, first, you do see the automobile?
Mr. SURREY. Yes; I have seen this photo before. Mr. Barrett of the FBI
in Dallas brought this to my attention.
Mr. JENNER. Do you recognize the automobile?
Mr. SURREY. Not positively, but I think it belongs to Mr. Charles Klihr.
Mr. JENNER. And who is Mr. Charles Klihr?
Mr. SURREY. He is a volunteer worker of Mr. Walker's, also.
Mr. JENNER. Are you sufficiently familiar with Mr. Charles Klihr's
automobile--you already identified it----
Mr. SURREY. No; I did not identify it. I cannot do that, sir.
Mr. JENNER. To the best of your ability is all I am suggesting, sir.
Mr. SURREY. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Do you have a recollection as to whether there was a
license plate or license plate fixture in or about the area in which
the black spot on the automobile appears?
Mr. SURREY. I have seen Mr. Klihr's automobile many times. I have not
seen it without a license plate, which I think I would note if it were
not there.
Mr. JENNER. Yes; but located at or about in the vicinity of that black
spot?
Mr. SURREY. I would say to the best of my knowledge; yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER. Thank you, sir. Were you at General Walker's home the
evening of the attempted assassination, or attempt on his life?
Mr. SURREY. Yes, I was. After the shot. I was not there at the time.
Mr. JENNER. How soon after the shot were you there?
Mr. SURREY. About 15 minutes.
Mr. JENNER. How did you become aware that there had been an attempt on
his life?
Mr. SURREY. He called me on the telephone at my home.
Mr. JENNER. And how far did you live from General Walker's home?
Mr. SURREY. About 2 miles.
Mr. JENNER. And you immediately drove over there?
Mr. SURREY. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. What kind of an automobile do you own and drive?
Mr. SURREY. A 1961 Ford convertible.
Mr. JENNER. And did you arrive at his home in that convertible?
Mr. SURREY. Yes, I did.
Mr. JENNER. What time of the day or night was this?
Mr. SURREY. This was about 9 to 9:30 in the evening.
Mr. JENNER. What day? I mean date.
Mr. SURREY. April 10th.
Mr. JENNER. What year?
Mr. SURREY. 1963.
Excuse me. This is 1964, isn't it.
Mr. JENNER. Yes, sir.