Mr. RANKIN. Did your husband----

Mrs. OSWALD. I never heard about Johnson. I never heard about Johnson.

I never knew anything about Johnson. I just don't think it was Johnson.

I didn't know his name.

Mr. RANKIN. Did you husband during the Nixon incident say Mr. Nixon's

name several times or how many times.

Mrs. OSWALD. Only once.

Mr. RANKIN. Now, you said that your husband went to get the pistol in

the room. Will you tell us what room that was that he went to get the

pistol?

Mrs. OSWALD. It was a small sort of storeroom. Just to the left off the

balcony as you come in; it is just on the left from the balcony.

Mr. RANKIN. Was it out, was the pistol out in the room or was it in a

closet?

Mrs. OSWALD. This room contained only a table and some shelves, and the

pistol was not on the table. It was hidden somewhere on a shelf.

Representative FORD. Was the rifle in that room, too?

Mrs. OSWALD. Yes.

Mr. RANKIN. Where was the rifle in the room?

Mrs. OSWALD. Sometimes it was in the corner, sometimes it was up on a

shelf. Lee didn't like me to go into this room. That is why he kept it

closed all the time and told me not to go into it. Sometimes he went in

there and sat by himself for long periods of time.

Mr. DULLES. By closed, do you mean locked?

Mrs. OSWALD. He used to close it from the inside. I don't remember what

kind of lock it was. Possibly it was just a--some kind of a tongue----

Mr. McKENZIE. Latch.

Mrs. OSWALD. Latch or something like that.

Mr. DULLES. How could he close it from the inside and then get out?

Mrs. OSWALD. When he was inside he could close it from the inside so

that I couldn't come in.

Mr. DULLES. But when he came out could he close it from the outside so

that you could not get in?

Mrs. OSWALD. No; from the outside it couldn't be locked.

Representative FORD. When you went to New Orleans and packed for the

trip to New Orleans, did you help to pack the pistol or the rifle?

Mrs. OSWALD. No, no; Lee never let me pack things when we went for

trips. He always did it himself.

Representative FORD. Did you see him pack the pistol or the rifle?

Mrs. OSWALD. No.

Representative FORD. Did you know the pistol and the rifle were in the

luggage going to New Orleans?

Mrs. OSWALD. I stayed for some time with Ruth Paine after he left for

New Orleans and I don't know whether they were in his things or they

were in the stuff which was left with me.

Representative FORD. At the time Mrs. Paine picked you up to go to the

bus station, did you intend to go by bus to New Orleans at that time?

Mrs. OSWALD. No.

Representative FORD. While you were living on Neely Street you didn't

tell us before of any extensive rifle shooting at Love Field or rifle

practice at Love Field. Can you tell us more about it now?

Mrs. OSWALD. Lee didn't tell me when he was going out to practice. I

only remember one time distinctly that he went out because he took the

bus. I don't know if he went to Love Field at that time. I don't--after

all this testimony, after all this testimony, when I was asked did he

clean his gun a lot, and I answered yes, I came to the conclusion that

he was practicing with his gun because he was cleaning it afterwards.

Representative FORD. Did he take the rifle and the pistol to Love Field

or at the time he went on the bus?

Mrs. OSWALD. Only the rifle.

Mr. McKENZIE. Just a minute. Let me ask her a question. May I ask a

question?

Representative FORD. Yes, sir.

Mr. McKENZIE. Representative Ford, I wasn't here as you know when Mrs.

Oswald testified before. I have been with her when she was interrogated

by the FBI relative to practicing the rifle shooting. This is the first

time that I have heard the use of the words "Love Field." Has there

been prior testimony by Mrs. Oswald here that he was practicing at Love

Field, because the reason I ask this is because she has steadfastly

in the past told me and the FBI that she didn't know where he went to

practice and that is the reason I wanted to know.

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