Mrs. OSWALD. He might have discussed this with Paine.
Senator COOPER. With who?
Mrs. OSWALD. Mr. Paine, husband of Ruth Paine.
Senator COOPER. He might have done what now?
Mrs. OSWALD. With the husband of Ruth Paine.
Senator COOPER. Why do you say that, did you ever hear him talking
about it?
Mrs. OSWALD. He used to talk politics with Mr. Paine. I don't know
what they were talking about because at that time I didn't understand
English.
Senator COOPER. Did you mean, though, to say that you believed he might
have discussed the Cuban policy with Mr. Paine.
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes; especially after we returned from New Orleans.
Senator COOPER. Why? Why do you make that statement?
Mrs. OSWALD. Because we only saw Mr. Paine once or twice before we went
to New Orleans. And there was more opportunity to see Mr. Paine after
we came back.
Senator COOPER. But my question is what makes you think he might have
talked to Mr. Paine about Cuba?
Mrs. OSWALD. I think, sir; because after returning from New Orleans
this was his favorite subject, Cuba, and he was quite--a little bit
cracked about it, crazy about Cuba.
Senator COOPER. You mean he talked to you a great deal about it after
you came from New Orleans?
Mrs. OSWALD. Well, in New Orleans he used to talk to me endlessly about
Cuba, but after we came back he didn't talk to me about it any longer
because I was just sick and tired of this.
Mr. DULLES. "He" in this case is your husband?
Mrs. OSWALD. That is right. I really don't know about what he talked
with Mr. Paine. I think that they were talking about politics, that is
to say my husband with Mr. Paine because my husband used to tell me
afterwards, "Well, he doesn't understand anything about politics." "He
is not too strong on politics."
And, therefore, I think they were probably talking with the American
political system and the Russian political system and comparisons
between them. I think that Mr. Paine could probably tell you more about
this than I can.
Senator COOPER. That is all I want to ask for the time being.
Mrs. OSWALD. I think that Mr. Paine knows more about my husband's
political attitudes toward the United States than I do.
Mr. RANKIN. You said the FBI asked you whether you could have been
mistaken about it being Mr. Nixon that your husband was interested in
going and seeing and maybe doing something to with his gun.
Do you know what Mr. Johnson you were asking about?
Let me rephrase the question.
You said the FBI asked you whether you might have been mistaken about
Mr. Nixon and whether it might have been Mr. Johnson instead of Mr.
Nixon that your husband was interested in doing something to with his
gun.
Do you know what Mr. Johnson was being referred to?
Mrs. OSWALD. No; I didn't know who Johnson was. I am ashamed but I
never knew his name. I am ashamed myself but I didn't know who Johnson
was.
Mr. RANKIN. You didn't know that the FBI was asking about the then Vice
President and now President Johnson?
Mrs. OSWALD. No; I never heard of Johnson before he became President.