TESTIMONY OF ABRAM CHAYES

Representative FORD. Mr. Chayes, will you take the following oath. Do

you swear the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole

truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. CHAYES. I do.

Mr. COLEMAN. The Honorable Abram Chayes is the Legal Adviser to

the Department of State. Mr. Chayes will be asked to testify with

respect to the files and other information and documents supplied the

Commission by the Department of State dealing with Mr. Oswald.

Mr. Chayes will also be asked about the legal correctness of certain

decisions made by various offices of the State Department with regard

to Oswald, including whether Oswald had lost his American citizenship

by his actions in 1959, whether his passport should have been returned

to him in July 1961, whether his passport should have been renewed

based upon the July 10, 1961, application, whether he should have been

issued his 1963 passport, and whether action should have been taken to

revoke it in October 1963 as a result of information received by the

Passport Office, and whether the Department and the Immigration and

Naturalization Service acted properly in connection with section 243(g)

of the Immigration and Nationality Act with respect to Marina. Mr.

Chayes will also be asked about the lookout card system in the Passport

Office.

Mr. COLEMAN. Mr. Chayes, will you state for the record your full name?

Mr. CHAYES. My name is Abram Chayes. There is a middle name that I

don't use. It is Joseph.

Mr. COLEMAN. Where do you presently reside?

Mr. CHAYES. At 3520 Edmunds Street NW., Washington, D.C.

Mr. COLEMAN. When did you become Legal Adviser to the State Department?

Mr. CHAYES. I think I was sworn in on February 7, 1961.

Mr. COLEMAN. So, therefore, anything that happened with respect to Mr.

Oswald prior to that time you had nothing to do with and knew nothing

about?

Mr. CHAYES. Well, I should say that I never heard the name Lee Harvey

Oswald until November 22, 1963, so that neither before nor after the

time I became Legal Adviser, before the assassination, did I have any

direct knowledge about Oswald, nor do I believe I passed directly on

any matters in the case, although there may have been some matters that

were considered in my office. I am not sure about that, but I took no

personal action in the case.

Mr. COLEMAN. Since the assassination your office has had occasion to

review the various files which were in the State Department dealing

with Lee Harvey Oswald, is that correct?

Mr. CHAYES. Yes; on November 22, Mr. Ball, the Under Secretary of

State, directed me to take in personal charge all the files in the

Department that I could find, and to review those files and be prepared

with a report for the Secretary the following morning on the general

relations of Mr. Oswald and the State Department.

I did take some files, the basic files into my custody at that time,

and retained them in my custody, I think, until we sent them to the

Commission at the Commission's request. And others than who were

working on the matter in the Department had access to the files but had

to work in my office on them.

Mr. COLEMAN. On or about May 28, 1964, you had occasion to reassemble

the files and deliver another set to the Commission, is that correct?

Mr. CHAYES. Yes; from time to time between the first delivery, which

was probably last December sometime, and just last week we have made

other papers available to the Commission as they have come to our own

notice. A file search of this kind in a place like the Department of

State is a pretty elaborate business.

Only last week we got a whole new shipment from the Moscow Embassy in

which they said, "We have sent you before everything that you didn't

have duplicates of, but here is a whole bunch of duplicates."

And it turned out that some of them weren't duplicates as appeared just

this morning. We made those available as soon as they came in.

Mr. COLEMAN. I take it with the covering letter of May 28, 1964, and

the description you made of the file together with the other files that

you delivered to us just yesterday, that they constitute all of the

files that the State Department has?

Mr. CHAYES. As I say, they constitute all that we have been able to

find, all the documents we have been able to find after a most diligent

search.

I myself did not personally conduct the search, but we directed

responsible officers in all the various places where documents might

be to give us all the documents they had, and I think we made a very

intensive search, and to my knowledge there are no other documents in

the Department relating to this matter in any way.

Mr. COLEMAN. Shortly after the Commission was appointed, you had

prepared under your direction, and submitted to the Commission a

document entitled "Report of the Department of State Lee Harvey

Oswald," is that correct?

Mr. CHAYES. That is correct, sir.

Mr. COLEMAN. And this document is an examination of the various actions

taken by people in the State Department, and your judgment as to the

legal correctness of the various actions?

Mr. CHAYES. Well, as you see, the document consists of five subparts.

It is an analysis and summary of the documents in the files. We went

through the files, looked at all the documents, tried to summarize them

for the Commission so as to give the Commission the fullest possible

appreciation of the contacts between Oswald and the Department. Where

it was necessary to elucidate policies or matters of law in order to

give the Commission that appreciation, we have done so, yes.

Mr. COLEMAN. The Report has been given a number of Commission Document

No. 2. (Commission Exhibit No. 950.) After that you, on May 8, 1964,

sent a letter to the general counsel for the Commission in which you

answered certain questions which had been proposed by the general

counsel?

Mr. CHAYES. Yes; the general counsel sent us a questionnaire with two

attachments, attachment A and attachment B. Attachment A referred to

matters mostly concerning Russia and the Embassy in Moscow. Attachment

B raised questions about matters within the Department, passport and

visa offices within the Department. Each attachment contained a series

of questions.

Again I think it is more accurate to state that the responses were

prepared under my supervision and direction. I, of course, reviewed

every response and and none were sent out without my approval. But I

was not the draftsman or didn't do all of the work.

Mr. COLEMAN. The first question that the Commission would like to know

about and be given some advice on is the question of whether the acts

which Oswald performed in October 1959, and shortly thereafter, would

in your opinion result in his loss of citizenship.

Mr. CHAYES. In my judgment they would not amount to expatriating acts.

The basic analysis is covered in the third part of Commission Document

No. 2, entitled "Lee Harvey Oswald--Expatriation."

Representative FORD. On what page is that, Mr. Chayes?

Mr. CHAYES. Well, I am sorry, each of the parts begin at No. 1, so it

is not very convenient, but it is about halfway through. There is a

memorandum entitled "Memorandum Lee Harvey Oswald--Expatriation."

Now, in that memorandum we analyze three sections of the act under

which it might be argued that an expatriation took place.

Mr. COLEMAN. Yes?

Mr. CHAYES. I say in that memorandum we analyzed the three possible

sections of the act under which it might be argued that an expatriation

took place, and in each case we conclude, and I think properly, that

there was no expatriation. The first section is section----

Mr. DULLES. May I ask one question? This is a formal opinion of your

office as Legal Adviser to the State Department?

Mr. CHAYES. I take responsibility for this as my present opinion, yes,

sir, and it goes out over my signature. We are not quite like the

Attorney General. We don't have opinions that get bound up in volumes.

Mr. DULLES. I realize that it is not a formalized opinion from that

angle. Was this ever submitted to the Department of Justice for

consideration?

Mr. CHAYES. No; it was not.

Mr. EHRLICH. Actually this report did go to the Department of Justice

because it was submitted before the Commission was formed.

Mr. CHAYES. Yes; but it wasn't submitted to the Department of Justice

for consideration.

Mr. DULLES. For concurrence or anything of that kind.

Mr. CHAYES. For concurrence, no.

Mr. COLEMAN. Now, the first section which I assume you address your

attention to was section 349(a) (1).

Mr. CHAYES. We could do it that way.

Mr. COLEMAN. Do you want to start with 349(a) (6)?

Mr. CHAYES. We started with (a) (6) in the memorandum because there was

likely to be a better case under (a) (6) than almost anything else.

The reason why one might argue more about (a) (6) than anything else,

is that there were written statements by Oswald saying, "I renounce my

citizenship" or words to that effect, and they were made in writing,

and in a way that appeared to be intended as a formal, considered

statement.

But (a) (6) says that a U.S. national may lose his nationality by

"making a formal renunciation of nationality before a diplomatic or

consular officer of the United States in a foreign state, in such form

as may be prescribed by the Secretary of State."

Now, even if you resolve every other issue in favor of expatriation,

that is if you say handing a fellow a letter of the kind that Oswald

handed to Mr. Snyder was a formal renunciation of nationality before

a diplomatic or consular officer, it was clearly not on the form

prescribed by the Secretary of State, and the courts have been very

precise on that.

Representative FORD. Do you have those citations, Mr. Chayes?

Mr. CHAYES. The form we have here, it is called "Form of Oath of

Renunciation." It is volume 8 of the Foreign Affairs Manual of the

Department of State, and it is an exhibit to section 225.6, and you can

see here that it is a fully prescribed form.

Mr. COLEMAN. Do you have any case where (a) it was a written statement,

and (b) it was given to a consul and yet because it was not on the form

prescribed by the Secretary of State, a court has held that it was not

a renunciation?

Mr. CHAYES. No case has been decided under 349(a) (6), but the general

line of cases under 349 is to resolve every doubt in favor of the

citizen, and there are innumerable citations to that effect. I feel

quite confident when the statute itself prescribes that the form should

be one established by the Secretary, and where the Secretary has in

fact prescribed such a form, that one cannot bring himself under (a)

(6) unless he uses the form.

Mr. COLEMAN. Wouldn't the two letters that Oswald delivered be

considered as making an affirmation or other formal declaration of

allegiance to a foreign state or political subdivision thereof, which

is an act under (a) (2)?

Mr. CHAYES. That would be (a) (2), and we consider that at page 7 of

the memorandum, subsection C.

Mr. DULLES. Are we through with all pages up to 7?

Mr. CHAYES. No; we probably go back to 1. But there we do have cases,

and the cases are clear that the oath or affirmation or formal

declaration under section (a) (2) has to be to an official entitled to

receive it on behalf of the foreign state, and even then the courts

have been very sticky about holding people to that.

For example, there is one case where a dual national, a Philippine and

U.S. national, made an oath of allegiance to the Philippines in the

usual form in order to get a Philippine passport, and it was asserted

that this was an expatriating act, and the court held no, it wasn't. In

re _Bautista's Petition_, 183 F. Supp. 271 (D.C. Guam, 1960). There is

a case where a man took an oath of allegiance to the British Crown, but

the recipient of the oath was his employer, private employer, and it

was held that that was not the kind of oath that is involved. In _The

Matter of L._ 1 I. & N. Dec. 317 (B.I.A. 1942).

The courts have said that this is a reciprocal relationship in which in

order to come under this section, the citizen or the U.S. citizen must

offer his allegiance to the foreign state and the foreign state must

accept it.

Mr. DULLES. There has to be action on both sides. Unilateral action is

not enough if the affirmation is not accepted.

Mr. CHAYES. That is the way I read the cases. Now, of course, if it

comes before, if the oath is taken before an official of the foreign

state that is authorized to take oaths of allegiance, why then nothing

more is needed than that. But making an oath or statement of allegiance

to another American or to a private party, whatever his nationality,

has been held not to fall within 349 (a)(2).

Mr. COLEMAN. Do you know whether Oswald had to make any statement or

take any oath when he got employment in the Soviet Union?

Mr. CHAYES. I don't personally, but it may have been inquired into by

the consul when Oswald came back for a renewal passport.

I think the record shows that it was concluded that there was no

evidence that he became a naturalized Soviet citizen, and so far as I

know, there is no evidence that he in any other way took an oath of

allegiance of the kind that would bring him under 349(a)(2).

Even if he had had to do so, for example, in connection with his

employment, there are cases which may say that that is not a voluntary

oath if it is done out of economic necessity and it will not,

therefore, serve to expatriate. See _Insogna_ v. _Dulles_, 116 F. Supp.

473 (D.D.C. 1953); _Stipa_ v. _Dulles_, 233 F. 2d 551 (3d Cir. 1956);

and _Bruni_ v. _Dulles_, 235 F. 2d 855 (D.C. Cir. 1956). In at least

one other case, _Mendelsohn_ v. _Dulles_, 207 F. 2d 37 (D.D.C. 1953), a

court held that the plaintiff had not expatriated himself by residing

abroad for more than 5 years since he had remained abroad to care for

his sick wife, who was too ill to travel.

Representative FORD. I think it would be helpful wherever you say, Mr.

Chayes, there are cases, that the record show the citation of the cases.

Mr. CHAYES. I think most of the cases that I am relying on are cited in

the memorandum to which I am referring. But there may be others that I

am recollecting. If I could have a chance to review the transcript, I

will submit exact citations in each case.

Representative FORD. I think that would be very helpful. Otherwise I

think the record is----

Mr. CHAYES. Yes; I agree.

Representative FORD. Is not clear or not complete, and as far as I am

concerned, and I think the Commission would agree, that you should

review the transcript to supply those citations for those particular

categories of cases.

Mr. CHAYES. I will be very glad to do so, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. COLEMAN. Now do you want to address yourself to section 349(a) (1)?

Mr. CHAYES. Well (a) (1) is obtaining naturalization, and there just

wasn't any indication, there wasn't any evidence at all that he had

become a naturalized Soviet citizen.

We knew that he applied for naturalization, but even on the basis of

his Soviet documents he had not been given Soviet citizenship.

Mr. COLEMAN. I take it your testimony is that after reviewing all of

the files, your office has determined that Oswald committed no act

which would justify the Department stating that he had expatriated

himself.

Mr. CHAYES. I think that is right. I more than think that is right. I

know that is right. We have reached the conclusion, and I personally

have reached the conclusion, that Oswald's actions in the Soviet Union,

although he may very well have wanted to expatriate himself at one time

or another, did not succeed in doing that.

I think for the record I would like to read here a citation from the

case of _Stipa_ v. _Dulles_ decided by the Court of Appeals for the

Third Circuit--the citation is at 233 F. 2d. 551--which gives some idea

of the general attitude with which the courts approach expatriation

cases. In that case it said:

The burden of proving expatriation generally is upon the defendant

who affirmatively alleges it [that is the Secretary of State] and

the burden is a heavy one. Factual doubts are to be resolved in

favor of citizenship. The burden of proof on the Government in an

expatriation case is like that in denaturalization. The evidence

must be clear, unequivocal and convincing. The rule prevailing

in denaturalization cases that the facts and the law should be

construed as far as is reasonably possible in favor of the citizen

equally applies to expatriation cases. American citizenship is not

to be lightly taken away.

This is the dominating attitude of the courts in all of these cases. We

find, for example, that a group of Japanese Americans, who during the

war under the stress of the relocation program, did all of the business

of renouncing their citizenship and did it in the most formal kind of a

way, and it was clear that they had done it and they had meant to do it

and all that sort of thing. When after the war they raised the question

of their citizenship status, the court held well, that the emotional

stress and strain of the relocation and shock under those circumstances

was such that this shouldn't be held against them. _Acheson_ v.

_Murakami_, 176 F. 2d 953 (9th Cir. 1949).

So the courts have gone very, very far to uphold the notion that

American citizenship is not to be lightly taken away, see e.g.,

_Schneiderman_ v. _United States_, 320 U.S. 118 (1943), and that has

affected not only our legal judgment in the particular case, but our

general policy which you have heard explained by Mr. Snyder and Mr.

McVickar.

Mr. COLEMAN. Could you describe for the record what the policy of the

Department is when a person appears at a foreign embassy and attempts

to expatriate himself?

Mr. DULLES. Before you answer that question may I ask a question.

In your memorandum here, relating to the paragraph we have been

discussing, there is a footnote that interests me. It says:

"After the assassination of President Kennedy, an official of the

Soviet Ministry of Foreign Affairs stated to an officer of the American

Embassy in Moscow that Soviet authorities had considered Oswald's

application for Soviet citizenship but had decided not to approve it

because Oswald seemed unstable."

Mr. Coleman, do we have that in our files?

Mr. COLEMAN. Yes.

Mr. CHAYES. Yes; I think also the American Embassy officer was

Ambassador Kohler?

Mr. COLEMAN. It was Stoessel.

Mr. CHAYES. Oh, Stoessel, Deputy Chief of Mission.

Mr. DULLES. The statement was made to him by an official of the Foreign

Office?

Mr. CHAYES. I think he is identified in the telegram; yes.

Mr. COLEMAN. Also when the Secretary appears tomorrow I think he will

impart some information on what the Soviet Ambassador told him as to

the reason why they refused Oswald citizenship.

Mr. DULLES. Yes; I would rather like to put that in the record unless

there is some similar reason to the one we had before.

Mr. CHAYES. Could I go off the record for just a moment?

(Discussion off the record.)

(Mr. Coleman's last question was read back by the reporter.)

Mr. CHAYES. Well, I think the basic policy of the Department is a

recognition that this is a very grave and serious and irrevocable act

that can affect a person's life and does affect a person's life very

fundamentally. And so the policy of the Department is to make sure that

the person making the renunciation does so with full recognition of the

consequences of his action, of the fact that it is a very grave act,

and in such a way as to make sure that it is a completely voluntary act

in every sense of the word, so that it can be shown not only to be free

of any physical duress or coercion, but mental stress and things of

that kind.

This is not only true because of the recognition of what it means

to the individual, but also because in order to support the

denaturalization in court. You have got to be able to show those things

under the standards and the general attitude that I have set forth.

Mr. COLEMAN. I take it your testimony is that you reviewed all of the

files and looked at all of the memorandums or had it done under your

direction, and your judgment is that Oswald had not expatriated himself

in 1959?

Mr. CHAYES. Yes; on the basis of the record that I have in the file.

Mr. COLEMAN. And with that determination made, then I take it that when

Oswald appeared at the Embassy in July 1961, and requested that his

passport be returned to him, that Mr. Snyder had no other alternative

but to return his passport to him, is that correct?

Mr. CHAYES. In the absence of any other disqualifying ground, and there

wasn't any other disqualifying ground either known to the Embassy in

Moscow or available in our own files back home. If Mr. Oswald was a

citizen, and was not disqualified in some other way, he was entitled to

the passport.

Mr. DULLES. Do you know from studying the records, or otherwise,

whether when that request was made by Lee Harvey Oswald, it was

referred back to the State Department and reconsidered again?

Mr. CHAYES. Oh, yes; it was. In the first place, the expatriation issue

wasn't decided until that time. That is the expatriation issue was open

until he came back in and applied for the passport.

The expatriation issue was decided in the first instance by the officer

in the field, and then the tentative decision was reported by him back

to the Passport Office and the expatriation decision was reviewed in

the Passport Office at that time. The file was reviewed for other

possible disqualifications, and an instruction went out with respect to

the return of the passport.

The field was instructed that when the passport was returned, it should

be marked for travel to the United States only, and then when the

passport was finally renewed some weeks later, that was also pursuant

to a departmental instruction.

Mr. DULLES. Was that reviewed in your office at that time?

Mr. CHAYES. No; it wasn't.

Mr. DULLES. Shouldn't it have been?

Mr. CHAYES. I don't think so, Mr. Dulles. The Passport Office has to

make nationality determinations on thousands and thousands of people.

Mr. DULLES. But this is a legal question, isn't it?

Mr. CHAYES. But they have adjudicators in the Passport Office.

Mr. DULLES. They have legal officers.

Mr. CHAYES. Thirty lawyers or something.

Mr. DULLES. They have?

Mr. CHAYES. And two lawyers reviewed this case. There are just

thousands of nationality or loss of nationality determinations.

Mr. DULLES. And those are generally all settled in the Passport Office?

Mr. CHAYES. In almost every case.

Mr. DULLES. Some of them may be presented to your office.

Mr. CHAYES. Where they present especially difficult questions of law or

general policy of administration; yes, sir.

Mr. DULLES. And this wasn't considered as a case involving particularly

difficult questions of law?

Mr. CHAYES. No; I don't think it did then or does now.

Representative FORD. Did the people in Washington who made this review

know that on this one particular form, I don't recall the Commission

Exhibit, that Oswald said, "I have done this, that," one or the other?

Mr. CHAYES. They would have had that before them. I think that is the

form that was sent back to the Department, the one that had "have

not" crossed out and "have" was left standing. So they made the

determination on the basis of a form----

Mr. COLEMAN. Commission Exhibit No. 938, for the record.

Mr. CHAYES. Commission Exhibit No. 938, in which Oswald indicated

that he had done one of these acts, and then supplied a supplementary

questionnaire explaining in fuller detail what he meant.

Mr. DULLES. Do you happen to know who the lawyers were who did this in

the Passport Office, and whether they would be available if we should

want to see them?

Mr. CHAYES. I think they are on the list to testify.

Mr. COLEMAN. Mr. Chayes, those lawyers didn't review the file in 1961.

They are the two lawyers that reviewed it in October 1963.

Mr. CHAYES. I see. Well, I can find out if we haven't supplied the

names already.

Mr. COLEMAN. I don't think any lawyer reviewed the file in 1961.

Mr. CHAYES. Well, an adjudicator did.

Mr. COLEMAN. It was Miss Waterman. She is not a lawyer.

Mr. CHAYES. I see.

Mr. DULLES. She is coming before us?

Mr. COLEMAN. Yes.

Mr. CHAYES. She is a passport adjudicator.

Mr. COLEMAN. Now, were have marked as Commission Exhibit No. 929 an

Operations Memorandum from the Department of State to the Embassy in

Moscow, dated March 28, 1960, which stated that:

"An appropriate notice had been placed in the Lookout Card Section

of the Passport Office in the event that Mr. Oswald should apply for

documentation at a point outside the Soviet Union."

I would like to show you this Commission exhibit and ask you are you

familiar with that memorandum?

Mr. CHAYES. I have seen this, but only since the assassination in my

general review of the files.

Mr. COLEMAN. Now, has your office made a check to determine whether a

lookout card was prepared?

Mr. CHAYES. Yes; Mr. Coleman. In connection with the preparation of

this memorandum, and the responses to the supplemental questions for

the Commission, we did examine the question of whether a lookout card

was prepared. I should say again that the matter of preparation of

lookout cards is not under my jurisdiction, and my knowledge of this is

only from a subsequent investigation.

Mr. COLEMAN. Your examination revealed that a lookout card actually was

never prepared, is that correct?

Mr. CHAYES. I think we have to say that our examination does not reveal

that a lookout card was prepared, and that on balance examining all

the relevant considerations, it appears more likely than not that no

lookout card was prepared.

Representative FORD. But there was none in the file.

Mr. CHAYES. There was none in the file, but there wouldn't have been

anyway, because this lookout card was ordered prepared because there

was a doubt as to whether Oswald had expatriated himself. Once that

doubt had been removed by an adjudication as it was in July of 1961,

the lookout card based on the possibility of expatriation would have

been removed.

It might be worth a moment if I could give you some general picture of

the lookout card system. Miss Knight will be able to testify in much

greater detail than I as to the actual operating----

Mr. DULLES. So that when 1963 came around and there was a further

application for a passport, there was no lookout card then found in

1963?

Mr. CHAYES. Nor should there have been.

Mr. DULLES. That is the issue under your procedure.

Mr. COLEMAN. Let me refer back to 1961 when you determined or the

Department determined to renew the passport. Now, as I understand it,

there was a search made of the Lookout Card Section, and the records

that we have reveal that no lookout card was found.

Mr. DULLES. Even in 1961?

Mr. COLEMAN. In 1961.

Mr. CHAYES. I don't think that that can be said that categorically. I

think it appears probable that there was no lookout card in 1961 at

that time, yes; that is correct.

Mr. DULLES. But in 1961 all of these facts with regard to Oswald were

before you, were they not?

Mr. CHAYES. If I could just give some notion of what this system is

like.

Mr. DULLES. Yes.

Mr. CHAYES. The lookout card is an IBM card, an ordinary IBM card,

and it should be prepared on anyone as to whom some evidence of

disqualification for a passport exists in our files. If the system

worked perfectly, anytime there was an unresolved question about the

eligibility of a person for a passport----

Representative FORD. Does a defector or an attempted defector fall in

that category?

Mr. CHAYES. No; the problem here was that this man had attempted to

expatriate himself, and said he was going to naturalize himself as a

Soviet citizen, and if he had done either of those things effectively,

he would have disqualified himself for a passport.

So there was an unresolved question on the facts known in 1959, or

January 1960, whenever it was. And at that point a lookout card should

have been prepared for him.

Then in July of 1961, when he came back in in Moscow, and asked for

the renewal of his passport, that question of expatriation was then

determined, both in Moscow and at home, and it was determined in favor

of the applicant. So that the outstanding question was then removed,

and if the procedures had gone right, the lookout card also, if it had

been prepared, would have been taken out of the lookout file and torn

up and thrown away.

Representative FORD. Don't you keep records of what you put in and what

you take out?

Mr. CHAYES. Yes, the refusal slip which formed the basis on which this

memorandum that we are talking about was made. There was a refusal slip

which was a direction to the person in the lookout card office to make

a lookout card, and also probably whoever made the refusal slip also

sent this memorandum to Moscow saying that a lookout card had been

prepared.

If you look at the refusal slip, which is retained in the main passport

file of Oswald, it doesn't have the notations that it would have had or

should have had if a card had been made. So that on the general basis

of the evidence, we conclude that it is probable that no card was made.

But you can't say that for sure because even if one had been made, it

would have been removed when the issue was resolved.

Representative FORD. If it is probable one wasn't made, but there is

a possibility, remote as it might be, don't you have some means of

recording when a lookout card is removed?

Mr. CHAYES. That notation also does not appear.

Representative FORD. So the probability is increased.

Mr. CHAYES. That is correct.

Representative FORD. That there was no lookout card ever made and put

into the file.

Mr. CHAYES. That is correct, sir. All of this is covered in some detail

in our response, our written response to the questionnaire, and comes

to the same conclusion, and all of these points are enumerated.

Mr. COLEMAN. There is a Commission Exhibit No. 948 where Mr. Chayes

under date of May 8, 1964, addressed himself to these problems.

Representative FORD. Is this that which I have here?

Mr. COLEMAN. Yes.

Representative FORD. And that is to be in the record?

Mr. CHAYES. Yes.

Mr. COLEMAN. We will give it an exhibit number.

(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. COLEMAN. Back on the record.

I would like to mark as Commission Exhibit No. 948 a letter from the

Legal Adviser to the Department of State to Mr. Rankin dated May 8,

1964.

(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 948 for

identification.)

Mr. COLEMAN. I would like to ask the witness whether this letter was

prepared under his direction together with the attachments.

Mr. CHAYES. Yes; the letter and attachments are those which were

prepared--I haven't had a chance to examine each right now, but appear

to be those which were prepared in my office and under my personal

supervision in response to the request of the Commission.

Mr. COLEMAN. In Commission Exhibit No. 948 you explain the lookout card

situation.

Mr. CHAYES. Yes.

Mr. COLEMAN. You treat with the question of whether a lookout card was

in the State Department file on Oswald in 1961.

Mr. CHAYES. Yes, sir; I think it is covered in the answers to questions

12 and 13. In particular the answer to question 13 shows the

evaluation on which we reached the conclusion that it is probable that

a lookout card was not prepared.

Mr. COLEMAN. Was there any other occasion as a result of acts by Oswald

that you felt that a lookout card should have been prepared?

Mr. CHAYES. Yes.

Mr. COLEMAN. What were those?

Mr. CHAYES. Under the procedures of the Department, once Oswald was

given a repatriation loan, as he was on his return to this country in,

what was it, May of 1962, a lookout card should have been prepared and

should have been maintained in the lookout file during the period when

there was an unpaid balance on his repatriation loan, and in that case

it appears pretty certainly that no card was prepared. We don't even

have in that case a refusal slip indicating a direction to prepare a

card.

Mr. DULLES. Can you refuse issuance of a passport when there is an

unpaid balance due?

Mr. CHAYES. I don't know what the courts would say, but a person who

accepts a repatriation loan now signs an agreement that he will not

apply for a passport until he has paid the loan.

At the time that Oswald got his loan, the form was a little different,

but even then he signed a statement saying that he understood that

passport facilities would not be furnished to him while an outstanding

balance was----

Representative FORD. Could we have in the record the form that was in

existence before and that which is now the form?

Mr. CHAYES. I think you do have it in the report. Again it is in the

answer to question 13, page 3 of that answer, if you see there it says,

"In the promissory note"--it is about the middle of the page--"which

he signed for the loan he stated, section 423.6-5 that 'I further

understand and agree that after my repatriation I will not be furnished

a passport for travel abroad until my obligation to reimburse the

Treasurer of the United States is liquidated.'"

Mr. COLEMAN. You testified that you made a search of the records or you

had a search made of the records of the Department, and you conclude

that no lookout card was ever prepared.

Mr. CHAYES. Yes; we can't find any evidence that a lookout card might

have been prepared.

Mr. COLEMAN. Do you know why one was not prepared?

Mr. CHAYES. There could have been more than one reason. It could have

been simply a bureaucratic oversight. It could have been that they

didn't have date and place of birth information on Oswald.

Because of the possibility of identical names, the practice of the

Passport Office is not to prepare a lookout card on any individual on

the basis of his name alone. They need both name and date and place of

birth.

Now, it may have been either that the Finance Office failed to notify

the Passport Office because it did not have date and place of birth

information, or that it did notify the Passport Office, and because

there was no date and place of birth information, the Passport Office

did not make a card.

Mr. DULLES. But the Passport Office had that information.

Mr. CHAYES. The Passport Office had the date and place of birth

information on Lee Harvey Oswald; yes.

Mr. DULLES. But not on Marina?

Mr. CHAYES. Marina wouldn't have gotten into the Passport Office at

all. She is an alien. But they didn't know whether the Lee Harvey

Oswald, or they might not have known that the Lee Harvey Oswald that

came down from the Finance Office, if indeed it did come down, was the

same Lee Harvey Oswald as to whom they had date and place of birth

information.

That is the problem. The problem is avoiding the difficulties that

would arise if duplicated names put you into the lookout card system.

Mr. COLEMAN. Once the loan had been repaid, would the card have been

taken out?

Mr. CHAYES. Yes.

Mr. COLEMAN. So, therefore, by the time he applied for the passport in

June 1963, the loan had been paid so there wouldn't have been a lookout

card in any event.

Mr. CHAYES. That is correct. The lookout card would have been removed,

had it been made, on January 29, 1963, 6 months before the passport

application, when Oswald finally paid the last of his outstanding loan

balance.

Mr. DULLES. Can I ask a question there? Is the lookout card then only

prepared in those cases where a passport should be refused irrespective

of the moral turpitude or idiosyncracies or whatever else may be the

case with regard to the individual?

Mr. CHAYES. There are three cases in which a lookout card is prepared.

One is the case you have just mentioned, where a passport should be

refused or there is evidence that might warrant refusal that you have

to look into further.

The second is if you are a very important person and your passport is

supposed to be given specially expeditious treatment.

And the third, if another agency, for example, your old agency or the

FBI or any other agency has asked the Department to inform them in case

of the passport application by a particular individual, a lookout card

will be made. So those are the three categories.

Now, the first category is by far the biggest. There are 250,000

lookout cards, and by far the overwhelming majority of those is in the

first category, that is people as to whom there is evidence which would

warrant a determination that they should not be issued a passport.

Mr. COLEMAN. Does the State Department have any regulations which

set forth the circumstances under which they will refuse a person a

passport?

Mr. CHAYES. Yes; we have regulations which are set forth, a copy of

which is attached to question 17. They appear in volume 22 of the

Federal Register.

Mr. COLEMAN. Volume 22, title 22?

Mr. CHAYES. Yes; title 22, part 51 of the Code of Federal Regulations.

Mr. COLEMAN. I take it then that in 51.135 you have the regulation

which says that you can deny a passport to a member of a Communist

organization, is that correct?

Mr. CHAYES. Well, I think you have to be careful how you read that. It

is a member of a Communist organization registered or required to be

registered under section 7 of the Subversive Activities Control Act of

1950, as amended.

This 51.135 is a regulation which implements section 6 of the

Subversive Activities Control Act, which denies passports to members of

organizations required to register.

The only such organization so far against which a final order of

registration is outstanding, is the Communist Party of the United

States. So, not only technically but actually, membership in the

Communist Party of the Soviet Union would not bring you within this

paragraph of the regulation.

Mr. DULLES. Or the Communist Party of any other country.

Mr. CHAYES. Of any other country.

Mr. COLEMAN. Is there any other regulation, which the State Department

has, dealing with the circumstances under which they can refuse to

issue a passport?

Mr. CHAYES. The other regulation covering substantive grounds of

refusal is 51.136.

Mr. COLEMAN. Could you read into the record the regulation?

Mr. CHAYES. Yes; the regulation says:

"In order to promote"----

Well, it is entitled "Limitations on Issuance of Passports to Certain

Other Persons."

It reads:

"In order to promote and safeguard the interests of the United States,

passport facilities except for direct and immediate return to the

United States shall be refused to a person when it appears to the

satisfaction of the Secretary of State that the person's activities

abroad would (a) violate the laws of the United States, and (b) be

prejudicial to the orderly conduct of foreign relations, or (c)

otherwise be prejudicial to the interests of the United States."

Mr. COLEMAN. In 1963, on June 24 when Oswald applied for a passport, he

was issued the passport within 24 hours after the application; is that

correct?

Mr. CHAYES. Yes, sir.

Mr. COLEMAN. Is there any record in the Department that anyone ever

examined Oswald's file to make a determination of whether he should

have been issued a passport?

Mr. CHAYES. In 1963?

Mr. COLEMAN. 1963.

Mr. CHAYES. In 1963 the passport was issued on the basis of a simple

check of the lookout file under the normal procedures of the Department.

What happens is that when a field office, in this case it was the New

Orleans field office, get a series of passport applications, they

Telex the names of the applicants and their place and date of birth

to the Department, and the Department makes a name check through the

lookout card file. That is all. And if there isn't a lookout card in

the lookout card file, they authorize the issuance of the passport

by the field agency. The field agency has to make a determination of

citizenship, of course. But no further action is taken in Washington

unless for some reason or other the field agency would wish to send a

particular case forward.

Mr. COLEMAN. Since there was no lookout card, I take it we can assume

that the June 25, 1963, passport was issued without any----

Mr. CHAYES. Without any examination.

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