Mr. WADE. Ruby, Jack Ruby.
Mr. RANKIN. Yes.
Mr. WADE. He was in another office of mine, since this all came out,
he was in there with a bunch of the police, we were trying a case on
pornography, some of my assistants were, and my assistant came in his
office during the noon hour after coming from the court, this was 2
or 3 days before the assassination and Ruby was sitting there in his
office with five or six Dallas police officers. In fact, he was sitting
in my assistant's desk and he started to sit down and asked who he was
and the officer said, "Well, that is Jacky Ruby who runs the Carousel
Club," so he had been down there.
I don't know him personally--I mean I didn't know who he was. It was
one of these things I had seen the man, I imagine, but I had no idea
who he was, and I will even go further, after it was over, this didn't
come out in the trial, as they left down there, Ruby ran up to me and
he said, "Hi Henry" he yelled real loud, he yelled. "Hi, Henry," and
put his hand to shake hands with me and I shook hands with him. And
he said, "Don't you know me?" And I am trying to figure out whether I
did or not. And he said, "I am Jack Ruby, I run the Vegas Club." And
I said, "What are you doing in here?" It was in the basement of the
city hall. He said, "I know all these fellows." Just shook his hand and
said, "I know all these fellows." I still didn't know whether he was
talking about the press or police all the time, but he shook his hands
kind of like that and left me and I was trying to get out of the place
which was rather crowded, and if you are familiar with that basement,
and I was trying to get out of that hall. And here I heard someone
call "Henry Wade wanted on the phone," this was about 1 o'clock in the
morning or about 1 o'clock in the morning, and I gradually get around
to the phone there, one of the police phones, and as I get there it is
Jack Ruby, and station KLIF in Dallas on the phone. You see, he had
gone there, this came out in the trial, that he had gone over there
and called KLIF and said Henry Wade is down there, I will get you an
interview with him.
Mr. RANKIN. Who is this?
Mr. WADE. KLIF is the name of the radio station.
You see, I didn't know a thing, and I just picked up the phone and they
said this is so and so at KLIF and started asking questions.
But that came out in the trial.
But to show that he was trying to be kind of the type of person who was
wanting to think he was important, you know.
Mr. RANKIN. Did you give him an interview over the telephone to KLIF?
Mr. WADE. Ruby?
Mr. RANKIN. No.
Mr. WADE. I answered about two questions and hung up, but they had
a man down there who later interviewed me before I got out of the
building. But they just asked me had he been filed and one or two
things.
Mr. DULLES. It was a KLIF reporter that you gave this to, not Ruby?
Mr. WADE. Not Ruby. Ruby was not on the phone, he had just gone out
and called him and handed the phone to me. I thought I got a call from
somebody, and picked it up and it was KLIF on the phone.
Mr. RANKIN. On the pornography charge, was Ruby involved in that?
Mr. WADE. No, sir; I don't know why he was down there, actually. But
there were six or seven police officers, special services of the Dallas
police were officers in the thing and I don't know whether he was
just interested in it or what he was down there for but he was down
there, and I didn't know him. He has tried to leave the impression
that he had known me a long time but it is one of those things, I have
been in politics and sometimes there are a lot of faces I know that I
don't know actually who they are, but I didn't know who he was and he
actually introduced himself to me that night.
Well, that is about all I can recall of that night.