Mr. RANKIN. By "he" you mean----

Mr. WADE. Ruby, Jack Ruby.

Mr. RANKIN. Yes.

Mr. WADE. He was in another office of mine, since this all came out,

he was in there with a bunch of the police, we were trying a case on

pornography, some of my assistants were, and my assistant came in his

office during the noon hour after coming from the court, this was 2

or 3 days before the assassination and Ruby was sitting there in his

office with five or six Dallas police officers. In fact, he was sitting

in my assistant's desk and he started to sit down and asked who he was

and the officer said, "Well, that is Jacky Ruby who runs the Carousel

Club," so he had been down there.

I don't know him personally--I mean I didn't know who he was. It was

one of these things I had seen the man, I imagine, but I had no idea

who he was, and I will even go further, after it was over, this didn't

come out in the trial, as they left down there, Ruby ran up to me and

he said, "Hi Henry" he yelled real loud, he yelled. "Hi, Henry," and

put his hand to shake hands with me and I shook hands with him. And

he said, "Don't you know me?" And I am trying to figure out whether I

did or not. And he said, "I am Jack Ruby, I run the Vegas Club." And

I said, "What are you doing in here?" It was in the basement of the

city hall. He said, "I know all these fellows." Just shook his hand and

said, "I know all these fellows." I still didn't know whether he was

talking about the press or police all the time, but he shook his hands

kind of like that and left me and I was trying to get out of the place

which was rather crowded, and if you are familiar with that basement,

and I was trying to get out of that hall. And here I heard someone

call "Henry Wade wanted on the phone," this was about 1 o'clock in the

morning or about 1 o'clock in the morning, and I gradually get around

to the phone there, one of the police phones, and as I get there it is

Jack Ruby, and station KLIF in Dallas on the phone. You see, he had

gone there, this came out in the trial, that he had gone over there

and called KLIF and said Henry Wade is down there, I will get you an

interview with him.

Mr. RANKIN. Who is this?

Mr. WADE. KLIF is the name of the radio station.

You see, I didn't know a thing, and I just picked up the phone and they

said this is so and so at KLIF and started asking questions.

But that came out in the trial.

But to show that he was trying to be kind of the type of person who was

wanting to think he was important, you know.

Mr. RANKIN. Did you give him an interview over the telephone to KLIF?

Mr. WADE. Ruby?

Mr. RANKIN. No.

Mr. WADE. I answered about two questions and hung up, but they had

a man down there who later interviewed me before I got out of the

building. But they just asked me had he been filed and one or two

things.

Mr. DULLES. It was a KLIF reporter that you gave this to, not Ruby?

Mr. WADE. Not Ruby. Ruby was not on the phone, he had just gone out

and called him and handed the phone to me. I thought I got a call from

somebody, and picked it up and it was KLIF on the phone.

Mr. RANKIN. On the pornography charge, was Ruby involved in that?

Mr. WADE. No, sir; I don't know why he was down there, actually. But

there were six or seven police officers, special services of the Dallas

police were officers in the thing and I don't know whether he was

just interested in it or what he was down there for but he was down

there, and I didn't know him. He has tried to leave the impression

that he had known me a long time but it is one of those things, I have

been in politics and sometimes there are a lot of faces I know that I

don't know actually who they are, but I didn't know who he was and he

actually introduced himself to me that night.

Well, that is about all I can recall of that night.

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