TESTIMONY OF LYNDAL L. SHANEYFELT RESUMED

(Present were Mr. McCloy, Mr. Dulles, and Representative Ford)

Mr. SPECTER. May the record now show that the Commission has now

reassembled on the first floor of the VFW Building where a motion

picture projector and slide projector and screen have been set up for

viewing of the films.

Mr. Shaneyfelt, what are you going to show us first of all?

Mr. SHANEYFELT. The first film will be of the color motion picture made

through the rifle scope as the car drove down the assassination route

at approximately 11 miles an hour. It will give the view the rifleman

had as he aimed the rifle from the sixth floor window of the Book

Building.

(Film)

Mr. DULLES. Is that going 11 miles per hour?

(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. SHANEYFELT. This film will be the black and white photographs of

the car in the fixed still positions in each of the frame numbers

described in previous testimony.

In addition the final portion of the film is a run through of the car

at 11 miles an hour on three separate runs filmed as the rifleman would

have seen the car looking through the rifle.

On the first run of the car going down the assassination route I have

stained frames in the vicinity of frame 222 which is after the first

clear shot after the tree, I have stained the frame at the location of

shot 313, which is the second pink flash you will see.

I found, in examining the film, that this is a shorter span of time

than in the actual film. It is a span on the reenactment of about three

and a half seconds between 222 and 313.

The second frame stained is 313 but since it is running at a faster

speed I have also stained a spot that represents 5 seconds which is

what the time lapse was between frame 222 and frame 313 in the actual

assassination films.

That will be after the car driving scene.

(Film)

Mr. SHANEYFELT. This is the last clear shot and this is an adjusted

last clear shot before going under the tree. This is the shot

approximately 185. This is frame 186 which is the adjusted shots which

would account for a 10-inch variance.

Shot of frame 207, and the adjusted frame which was 210. This is frame

222 and you can see the tree is still in the background.

This is 225 now. 231. At this point Governor Connally states he has

been hit by now. This is 235. 240--249--255--and the shot to the head

which is 313.

Mr. SPECTER. What is this? Describe this, Mr. Shaneyfelt.

Mr. SHANEYFELT. This is the run at 11 miles an hour containing the pink

stain. This is another run at 11 miles an hour. It will give you some

idea of the difficulty of tracking a car with a heavy camera mounted

on the rifle.

Mr. McCLOY. You have to sight that with a camera?

Mr. SHANEYFELT. Sighting through a camera.

(Film)

Mr. REDLICH. Just as a final thing, Mr. McCloy, would you like to see

the Zapruder film?

Mr. McCLOY. I think we will take the original Zapruder again, I don't

know whether we have anything that is more significant in the black and

whites, I am talking about the particular movies of the frames, we have

not seen those.

Mr. SHANEYFELT. Yes.

Mr. McCLOY. I think we have seen all we need to see with regard to

that. What have you got left?

Mr. SHANEYFELT. The original Zapruder film.

Mr. McCLOY. We will see that.

Mr. SHANEYFELT. We have the duplication of the Zapruder film

reenactment. The first portion of the reel is the still shots and the

last portion is the run through at 11 miles an hour.

Mr. SPECTER. I think you would find that worth while to see.

Mr. SHANEYFELT. Then we have Nix and Muchmore of the same run.

Mr. McCLOY. Let's do those, too.

Representative FORD. First is the original Zapruder.

Mr. SHANEYFELT. Original Zapruder. This is not the original. This is

the first copy.

(Film)

Mr. SPECTER. Will you state for the record what film we just saw?

Mr. SHANEYFELT. This film we just viewed is a copy made directly from

the original Zapruder film of the actual assassination.

Mr. SPECTER. Could you now show us the film which was taken at the

reconstruction from the Zapruder position?

(Film)

Mr. SHANEYFELT. These films we made in Dallas have been developed and

left intact and have not been edited in any way so there are a lot of

blank spaces where we run the leader off and turn the film. This is

position 161. This side-to-side jiggle is a camera malfunction.

Mr. McCLOY. This is 16 mm.?

Mr. SHANEYFELT. No; 8 mm.

Representative FORD. Is this from his camera?

Mr. SHANEYFELT. Yes; taken with his camera. Frame 222, frame 225. This

is frame 231.

Representative FORD. He has a delayed reaction compared to what the

President did.

Mr. SPECTER. What frame is this, Mr. Shaneyfelt?

Mr. SHANEYFELT. 313, the head shot.

Mr. McCLOY. The head shot.

Mr. SHANEYFELT. This is the position which is not duplicated on the

Zapruder film. This is running the film out to reload it.

During that run at 11 miles an hour we made no effort to duplicate the

body position because it would have been most difficult to know just

when to turn. The only other films we have are the ones we shot with

the Nix and Muchmore cameras of this same run from their positions.

Mr. McCLOY. Did Nix, Muchmore get a second shot of the head shot?

Mr. SHANEYFELT. Mrs. Muchmore got the head shot and Mr. Nix got the

head shot.

Mr. McCLOY. They both got it.

Mr. SHANEYFELT. We have both those films.

Mr. McCLOY. We might take a look at it while we are here. I don't think

I have ever seen those. Those are 88 mm., too.

Mr. SHANEYFELT. Yes.

(Film.)

Mr. SHANEYFELT. This film is the film that was taken by Mr. Orville

Nix of the assassination. This is along Houston street going toward

Elm. There was the head shot. We will roll it back and run it at slow

motion. The head shot shows just a very faint pink.

Mr. McCLOY. Very soon after this sequence begins. Just as the President

is directly under the white abutment in the background. I will try to

give you a clue about when it is going to happen, there.

The next film is the film that was exposed in Mr. Nix's camera standing

in the position determined to be his camera position at the reenactment

in Dallas, with the car traveling at approximately 11 miles an hour

along Elm street.

These films were compared with each other and found to be consistent

in the size of the car in the area of the picture and verified the

position as being that of Mr. Nix.

(Film)

Mr. SPECTER. Have you now shown us, Mr. Shaneyfelt, all of the movies

that we saw, we took in Dallas?

Mr. McCLOY. Mrs. Muchmore.

Mr. SPECTER. Mrs. Muchmore.

(Film)

Mr. SHANEYFELT. This is the motorcade coming down Main and turning into

Houston street.

Mr. McCLOY. She didn't know she took that.

Mr. SHANEYFELT. No.

Mr. SPECTER. Have we now seen all the films from Dallas? That concludes

the films.

Mr. McCloy, for the record, I would like to have the films marked with

Commission Exhibit No. 904 identifying the Zapruder copy. That is the

copy of the original Zapruder film.

May I say here, parenthetically, that we do not intend to reproduce

all of this in the published record of the Commission since we have

extracted the key numbers on Exhibit 885 on the album which shows the

frames of the Zapruder film after the President's automobile turns left

off of Houston onto Elm, but for the permanent archives these films

should be made a part of the permanent record.

I would like to have a copy of the original Nix film marked as

Commission Exhibit No. 905. I would like to have the copy of the

original Muchmore film marked as Commission Exhibit No. 906. I would

like to have all of the movies which we took at Dallas marked in a

group as Commission Exhibit No. 907.

Mr. McCLOY. That is all the movies that were taken on May 24 in Dallas

by the test team, so to speak.

Mr. SPECTER. Right, Commissioner McCloy. They are marked as Commission

Exhibit No. 907, and I would like to move formally for the admission

into evidence of Commission Exhibits Nos. 904 through 907 at this time.

Mr. McCLOY. They may be admitted.

(Commission Exhibits Nos. 904, 905, 906, and 907 were marked for

identification, and received in evidence.)

(Whereupon, at 7:20 p.m., the President's Commission recessed.)

_Friday, June 5, 1964_

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