Mr. DULLES. They are not a danger.
Mr. BELMONT. They are not within our cognizance and we don't notify
Secret Service.
Mr. DULLES. These would be defectors who have gone to the Soviet Union
and who then come back to the United States and tried to defect while
they were over there.
Mr. McCLOY. Not necessarily, not exclusively the Soviet Union, of
course.
Mr. DULLES. Communist countries, I would say.
Representative FORD. Just to get an order of magnitude, how many are
there? Is this a sizable number?
Mr. BELMONT. I don't have a figure, Mr. Ford. You have had defectors in
Korea from the military. You have had defectors----
Mr. McCLOY. Germany.
Mr. BELMONT. Berlin. When these are military personnel they are within
the cognizance of the military, so that it is very difficult for me to
give you a figure.
When we become interested is when they return to this country and
warrant action by us from an internal security standpoint.
As in the Oswald case, we started our action based on newspaper
publicity that he had attempted to or indicated his intention to,
renounce his citizenship in Moscow. But I do not have a figure because
many of these people are members of the armed services and I would
hesitate to give you an estimate.
Mr. STERN. Mr. Belmont, do these terms "subversives, ultrarightists,
racists, and Fascists" have a particular meaning of art in FBI
parlance? Can you tell us how you use these terms in this regulation or
what these mean to you and to your agents.
Mr. BELMONT. I will have to refer you to the dictionary, I think, Mr.
Stern. A subversive is an individual who is active in the Communist
Party or front groups associated with it or one of the other groups
that we term subversive, such as the Socialist Workers Party.