Mr. BELMONT. You are looking at----

Mr. McCLOY. Not Embassy; here is one from Mexico. Do we have that? We

don't have these in our files, for example.

Mr. BELMONT. This is subsequent to the assassination. You see your area

of interest at this point is information, all information we had prior

to the assassination. I did not remove from this file the items that

started to come in subsequent to the assassination, you see.

Mr. McCLOY. My feeling is that somebody on the Commission should

examine that file. I can't come to any other conclusion after reading

it all, because I don't know what is in it, what is in our record,

and what is in that file. There is a good bit of material there that

is narrative, which I think would be relevant. Certainly, I don't

believe we can be possibly criticized for deleting or not producing

a file which contains the type of information that you are speaking

of. We are just as interested in protecting the security of your

investigative processes as you are. But I don't think that when it is

on the record that we have this file, that may contain material that

was not in our files, and we are given the opportunity to examine it,

without disclosing these confidential matters that we ought not to have

somebody go through it.

Mr. DULLES. I agree with that but I think we could save time if we

checked off first what we have already and that would cut out about

half of that file probably.

Mr. McCLOY. I think in a rapid glance through it, I think just about

half of it.

The CHAIRMAN. Well, suppose you do that then, get those and let's see.

All right, proceed, Mr. Stern.

Mr. STERN. I think perhaps we ought to leave the entire matter of the

file then until we can give you the information.

The CHAIRMAN. That is right.

Mr. STERN. May we admit for the purposes of the record this list at

this time, Mr. Chief Justice, which has been marked No. 834?

The CHAIRMAN. Yes. There are no security matters in this?

Mr. BELMONT. No, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. It may be admitted as Exhibit No. 834.

(The document referred to, previously marked Commission Exhibit No. 834

for identification, was received in evidence.)

Mr. STERN. Mr. Belmont, can you identify this letter dated February 6

with an attached affidavit which has been marked for identification as

Commission Exhibit No. 835?

(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 835, for

identification.)

Mr. BELMONT. Yes; this is a letter dated February 6, 1964, to the

Commission from the FBI to which is attached an affidavit by Director

J. Edgar Hoover.

Mr. STERN. What is the subject?

Mr. BELMONT. Stating flatly that Lee Harvey Oswald was never an

informant of the FBI.

Mr. DULLES. Would you define informant. Obviously in the sense he knew

some information as previously indicated from the previous interviews.

I mean for the record, would you just define what you mean by an

informant in this sense?

Mr. BELMONT. An informant in this sense is an individual who has agreed

to cooperate with the FBI and to furnish information to the FBI either

for or without payment.

Mr. STERN. Thank you.

Mr. BELMONT. This would not, of course, include the cooperative citizen

to whom we go, and who frequently and frankly discloses any information

in his possession, but rather someone who joins an organization or

seeks out information at the direction and instance of the FBI relative

to subversive or criminal matters. In other words, I want to make it

clear we do not regard patriotic citizens as informants.

Mr. STERN. I take it you also would not have regarded Lee Oswald as an

informant from the contacts with him that you have told us about and

the other agents have told us about?

Mr. BELMONT. Indeed not; in no way could he be considered an informant;

in no way.

Mr. STERN. Did you supervise or assist in the preparation of the

information contained here?

Mr. BELMONT. Yes, sir.

Mr. STERN. And you are familiar with it?

Mr. BELMONT. Yes; I am.

Mr. STERN. And to your knowledge, does it accurately and completely

state the Bureau's practice in recruiting a prospective informant?

Mr. BELMONT. That is correct.

Mr. STERN. Is there anything you would like to add to the information

covered in there with respect to your practices regarding informants?

Mr. BELMONT. No; only in my personal knowledge this is a correct

statement and Lee Harvey Oswald was not an informant of the FBI.

Mr. STERN. Did you ever use the term "agent" to apply to anyone other

than an employee, a special agent employee of the FBI?

Mr. BELMONT. No; we do not.

Mr. DULLES. Could I ask you, Mr. Belmont, whether Mr. Fain's separation

from the FBI had anything whatever to do with the Oswald case or in his

handling of the Oswald case?

Mr. BELMONT. No; indeed not. Mr. Fain came to the retirement age and

decided he wanted to retire, which is his privilege, and he retired and

is presently working in Texas and very happy, I understand.

Mr. DULLES. Thank you.

Mr. BELMONT. He retired in good graces, good standing, so far as the

FBI is concerned.

The CHAIRMAN. And a year before the assassination.

Mr. BELMONT. Frankly, I don't recall.

The CHAIRMAN. Yes; it was August 1962, he testified.

Mr. STERN. You have already covered this, Mr. Belmont, but just so that

the record is completely clear on this point, was Lee Oswald ever an

agent of the FBI?

Mr. BELMONT. Lee Oswald was never an agent of the FBI.

Mr. STERN. The letter of February 6, 1964, from Mr. Hoover, alludes to

testimony furnished the Commission by District Attorney Wade. Have you

subsequently been advised that Mr. Wade had not testified before the

Commission?

Mr. BELMONT. Yes; we received a letter from the Commission advising us

that the incident referred to was an informal discussion rather than

actual testimony before the Commission.

Mr. STERN. And also to complete the record, have you been advised that

Mr. Wade was not suggesting that he believed the rumor about Oswald

as an informant, but felt obliged to call it to the attention of the

Commission?

Mr. BELMONT. The Commission's letter so advised us.

Mr. STERN. Mr. Chairman, may this be admitted with No. 835?

The CHAIRMAN. It may be admitted under that number.

(The document referred to, previously marked Commission Exhibit No. 835

for identification, was received in evidence.)

Mr. STERN. Mr. Belmont, I show you a letter dated February 12, 1964,

a number of affidavits by special agents, attached to it. It was

identified yesterday, parts of it were identified yesterday and it

therefore carries the number for identification 825. Can you identify

this letter for us?

Mr. BELMONT. In order to be sure--I beg your pardon. This is a letter

dated February 12, 1964, to the Commission from the FBI, to which is

attached affidavits of FBI personnel who had reason to contact Lee

Harvey Oswald and who were in a supervisory capacity over the agents

who contacted Oswald.

Mr. STERN. Did you supervise the preparation of this material?

Mr. BELMONT. These affidavits were prepared, of course, by the men

themselves. I have read the affidavits, and they were compiled as an

enclosure and sent over with this letter.

Mr. STERN. You have reviewed them in preparation for your testimony

before the Commission?

Mr. BELMONT. Yes, sir.

Mr. STERN. To your knowledge, are they accurate?

Mr. BELMONT. They are accurate, to my knowledge, yes.

Mr. STERN. Are they complete?

Mr. BELMONT. Yes.

Mr. STERN. They do not omit any significant fact you know of?

Mr. BELMONT. No.

Mr. STERN. In connection with the material they cover?

Mr. BELMONT. No.

Mr. STERN. Unless there are any questions on that, Mr. Chairman, I

suggest we admit this document.

The CHAIRMAN. It may be admitted as No. 825.

(The document referred to, previously marked Commission Exhibit No. 825

for identification, was received in evidence.)

Mr. STERN. Mr. Belmont, I show you a letter dated March 31, 1964, from

Director Hoover to Mr. Rankin, the General Counsel of the Commission,

with a series of attachments. Can you identify this which has been

marked for identification as No. 836. Can you identify this for the

Commission?

(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 836 for

identification.)

Mr. BELMONT. This is a letter dated March 31, 1964, to the Commission

from the FBI to which is attached the instructions contained in our

manuals as to the type of information which should be disseminated to

Secret Service and our relations or liaison with Secret Service.

Mr. STERN. It was prepared in response to a request from the Commission?

Mr. BELMONT. That is correct.

Mr. STERN. Did you supervise or assist in the preparation?

Mr. BELMONT. I did.

Mr. STERN. Have you reviewed it recently?

Mr. BELMONT. Yes.

Mr. STERN. Is it complete with respect to the matters covered?

Mr. BELMONT. Yes; it is.

Mr. STERN. Is there anything you would like to add to it with respect

to the matters covered?

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