Mrs. Harriet Hansom Robinson (wife of "Warrington," so long the

able correspondent of the _Springfield Republican_), who with her

daughter made the arrangements for our reception, gave the

address of welcome, to which the president, Mrs. Stanton,

replied. Rev. Frederic Hinckley of Providence, spoke on "Unity of

Principle in Variety of Method," and showed that while differing

on minor points the various woman suffrage associations were all

working to one grand end. Anna Garlin Spencer made a few remarks

on "The Character of Reformers." Rev. Olympia Brown gave an

exceptionally brilliant speech a full hour in length on

"Universal Suffrage"; Harriette Robinson Shattuck's theme was

"Believing and Doing"; Lillie Devereux Blake's, "Demand for

Liberty"; Matilda Joslyn Gage's, "Centralization"; Belva A.

Lockwood's, "Woman and the Law". Mary F. Eastman followed showing

that woman's path was blocked at every turn, in the professions

as well as the trades and the whole world of work; Isabella

Beecher Hooker gave an able argument on the "Constitutional Right

of Women to Vote"; Martha McLellan Brown spoke equally well on

the "Ethics of Sex"; Mrs. Elizabeth Avery Meriwether of

Tennessee, gave a most amusing commentary on the spirit of the

old common law, cuffing Blackstone and Coke with merciless

sarcasm. Mrs. Elizabeth L. Saxon of Louisiana spoke with great

effect on "Woman's Intellectual Powers as Developed by the

Ballot." These two Southern ladies are alike able, witty and

pathetic in their appeals for justice to woman. Mrs. May Wright

Sewall's essay on "Domestic Legislation," showing how large a

share of the bills passed every year directly effect home life,

was very suggestive to those who in answer to our demand for

political power, say "Woman's sphere is home," as if the home

were beyond the control and influence of the State. Beside all

these thoroughly prepared addresses, Susan B Anthony, Dr.

Clemence Lozier, Dr. Caroline Winslow, ex-Secretary Lee of

Wyoming, spoke briefly on various points suggested by the several

speakers.

The white-haired and venerable philosopher, A. Bronson Alcott,

was very cordially received, after being presented in

complimentary terms by the president. Mr. Alcott paid a glowing

tribute to the intellectual worth of woman, spoke of the divinity

of her character, and termed her the inspiration font from which

his own philosophical ideas had been drawn. Not until the women

of our nation have been granted every privilege would the liberty

of our republic be assured.[79] The well-known Francis W. Bird

of Walpole, who has long wielded in the politics of the Bay

State, the same power Thurlow Weed did for forty years in New

York, being invited to the platform, expressed his entire

sympathy with the demand for suffrage, notwithstanding the common

opinion held by the leading men of Massachusetts, that the women

themselves did not ask it. He recommended State rather than

national action.

Rev. Ada C. Bowles of Cambridge, and Rev. Olympia Brown, of

Racine, Wis., opened the various sessions with prayer--striking

evidence of the growing self-assertion of the sex, and the rapid

progress of events towards the full recognition of the fact that

woman's hour has come. Touching deeper and tenderer chords in the

human soul than words could reach, the inspiring strains of the

celebrated organist, Mr. Ryder, rose ever and anon, now soft and

plaintive, now full and commanding, mingled in stirring harmony

with prayer and speech. And as loving friends had covered the

platform with rare and fragrant flowers, the aesthetic taste of

the most fastidious artist might have found abundant

gratification in the grouping and whole effect of the assemblage

in that grand temple. Thus through six prolonged sessions the

interest was not only kept up but intensified from day to day.

The National Association was received right royally in Boston. On

arriving they found invitations waiting to visit Governor Long at

the State House, Mayor Prince at the City Hall, the great

establishment of Jordan, Marsh & Co., and the Reformatory Prison

for Women at Sherborn. Invitations to take part were extended to

woman suffrage speakers in many of the conventions of that

anniversary week. Among those who spoke from other platforms,

were Matilda Joslyn Gage, Ellen H. Sheldon, Caroline B. Winslow,

M. D., editor of _The Alpha_, and Rev. Olympia Brown. The

president of the association, Mrs. Elizabeth Cady Stanton,

received many invitations to speak at various points, but had

time only for the "Moral Education," "Heredity," and "Free

Religious" associations. Her engagement at Parker Memorial Hall,

prevented her from accepting the governor's invitation, but

Isabella Beecher Hooker and Susan B Anthony led the way to the

State house and introduced the delegates from the East, the West,

the North and the South, to the honored executive head of the

State, who had declared himself, publicly, in favor of woman

suffrage. The ceremony of hand-shaking over, and some hundred

women being ranged in a double circle about the desk, Mrs. Hooker

stepped forward, saying:

Speak a word to us, Governor Long, we need help. Stand here,

please, face to face with these earnest women and tell us

where help is to come from.

The Governor responded, and then introduced his secretary, who

conducted the ladies through the building.

Mrs. HOOKER said: Permit me, sir, to thank you for this

unlooked-for and unusual courtesy in the name of our

president who should be here to speak for herself and for

us, and in the name of these loyal women who ask only that

the right of the _people_ to govern themselves shall be

maintained. In this great courtesy extended us by good old

Massachusetts as citizens of this republic unitedly

protesting against being taxed without representation, and

governed without our consent, we see the beginning of the

end--the end of our wearisome warfare--a warfare which

though bloodless, has cost more than blood, by as much as

soul-suffering exceeds that of mere flesh. I see as did

Stephen of old, a celestial form close to that of the Son of

Man, and her name is Liberty--always a woman--and she bids

us go on--go on--even unto the end.

Miss Anthony standing close to the governor, said in low,

pathetic tones:

Yes, we are tired. Sir, we are weary with our work. For

forty years some of us have carried this burden, and now, if

we might lay it down at the feet of honorable men, such as

you, how happy we should be.

The next day Mayor Prince, though suffering from a late severe

attack of rheumatism, cordially welcomed the delegates in his

room at the City Hall, and chatting familiarly with those who had

been at the Cincinnati convention and witnessed his great

courtesy, some one remarked that from that time Miss Anthony had

proclaimed him the prince among men, and Mrs. Stanton immediately

suggested that if the party with which he was identified were

wise in their day and generation they would accept his

leadership, even to the acknowledgement of the full citizenship

of this republic, and thus secure not only their gratitude but

their enthusiastic support in the next presidential election.

Having compassion upon his Honor because of his manifest physical

disability, the ladies soon withdrew and went directly to the

house of Jordan, Marsh & Co., where were assembled in a large

hall at the top of the building such a crowd of handsome, happy,

young girls as one seldom sees in this work-a-day world; that

well-known Boston firm within the last six months having fitted

up a large recreation room for the use of their employes at the

noon hour. Half a hundred girls were merrily dancing to the music

of a piano, but ceased in order to listen to words of cheer from

Mrs. Lockwood, Mrs. Hooker and Mrs. Sewall. At the close of their

remarks Mr. Jordan brought forward a reluctant young girl who

could give us, if she would, a charming recitation from "That

Lass o' Lowrie's," in return for our kindness in coming to them.

And after saying in a whisper to one who kindly urged compliance

to this unexpected call, that this had been such a busy day she

feared her dress was not all right, her face became unconscious

of self in a moment, and with true dramatic instinct, she gave

page after page of that wonderful story of the descent into the

mine and the recognition there of one whom she loved, precisely

as you would desire to hear it were the scene put upon the stage

with all the accessories of scenery and companion actors.

From Jordan, Marsh & Co.'s a large delegation proceeded to visit

the Reformatory Prison at Sherborn which was established three or

four years ago. The board of directors, consisting of three women

and two men, has charge of all the prisons of the State. Mrs.

Johnson, one of the directors, a noble, benevolent woman,

interested in the great charities of Boston, was designated by

Governor Long--through whose desire the Association visited the

prison--to do the honors and accompany the party from Boston. The

officers, matron and physician of the Sherborn prison, are all

women. Dr. Mosher, the superintendent, formerly the physician, is

a fair, noble-looking woman about thirty-five years of age. She

has her own separate house connected with the building. The

present physician, a delicate, cultured woman, with sympathy for

her suffering charges, is a recent graduate of Ann Arbor.

The entire work is done by the women sent there for restraint,

and the prison is nearly self-supporting; it is expected that

within another year it will be entirely so. Laundry work is done

for the city of Boston, shirts are manufactured, mittens knit,

etc. The manufacturing machinery will be increased the coming

year. The graded system of reward has been found successful in

the development of better traits. It has four divisions, and

through it the inmates are enabled to work up by good behavior

toward more pleasant surroundings, better clothes and food and

greater liberty. From the last grade they reach the freedom of

being bound out; of seventy-eight thus bound during the past year

but seven were returned. The whole prison, chapel, school-room,

dining-room, etc., possesses a sweet, clean, pure atmosphere. The

rooms are light, well-ventilated, vines trailing in the windows

from which glimpses of green trees and blue sky can be seen.

Added to all the other courtesies, there came the invitation to a

few of the representatives of the movement to dine with the Bird

Club at the Parker House, in the same cozy room where these

astute politicians have held their councils for so many years,

and whose walls have echoed to the brave words of many of New

England's greatest sons. The only woman who had ever been thus

honored before was Mrs. Stanton, who, "escorted by Warrington,"

dined with these honorable gentlemen in 1871. On this occasion

Susan B. Anthony and Harriet H. Robinson accompanied her. Around

the table sat several well-known reformers and distinguished

members of the press and bar. There was Elizur Wright whose name

is a household word in many homes as translator of La Fontaine's

fables for the children. Beside him sat the well-known Parker

Pillsbury and his nephew, a promising young lawyer in Boston. At

one end of the table sat Mr. Bird with Mrs. Stanton on his right

and Miss Anthony on his left. At the other end sat Frank Sanborn

with Mrs. Robinson (wife of "Warrington") on his right. On either

side sat Judge Adam Thayer of Worcester, Charles Field, Williard

Phillips of Salem, Colonel Henry Walker of Boston, Mr. Ernst of

the Boston _Advertiser_, and Judge Henry Fox of Taunton. The

condition of Russia and the Conkling imbroglio in New York; the

new version of the Testament and the reason why German Liberals,

transplanted to this soil, immediately become conservative and

exclusive, were all considered. Carl Schurz, with his narrow

ideas of woman's sphere and education, was mentioned by way of

example. In reply to the question how the Suffrage Association

felt in regard to Conkling's reelection. Mrs. Robinson said:

That the leaders, who are students of politics were unitedly

against him. Their only hope is in the destruction of the

Republican party, which is too old and corrupt to take up

any new reform.

Frank Sanborn, fresh from the perusal of the New Testament, asked

if women could find any special consolation in the Revised

Version regarding everlasting punishment. Mrs. Stanton replied:

Certainly, as we are supposed to have brought "original sin"

into the world with its fearful forebodings of eternal

punishment, any modification of Hades in fact or name, for

the _men_ of the race, the innocent victims of our

disobedience, fills us with satisfaction.

From the club the ladies hastened to the beautiful residence of

Mrs. Fenno Tudor, fronting Boston Common, where hundreds of

friends had already gathered to do honor to the noble woman so

ready to identify herself with the unpopular reforms of her day.

Among the many beautiful works of art, a chief attraction was the

picture of the grand-mother of Parnell, the Irish agitator, by

Gilbert Stuart. The house was fragrant with flowers, and the

unassuming manners of Mrs. Tudor, as she moved about among her

guests, reflected the glory of our American institutions in

giving the world a generation of common-sense women who do not

plume themselves on any adventitous circumstances of wealth or

position, but bow in respect to morality and intelligence

wherever they find it. At the close of the evening Mrs. Stanton

presented Mrs. Tudor with the "History of Woman Suffrage" which

she received with evident pleasure and returned her sincere

thanks.

At the close of the anniversary week in Boston, successful meetings

were held in various cities,[80] beginning at Providence, where Dr.

Wm. F. Channing made the arrangements. These conventions were the

first that the National Association ever held in the New England

States, presenting the national plan of woman's enfranchisement

through a sixteenth amendment to the United States Constitution.

FOOTNOTES:

[53] "True labor reform: the ballot for woman, the unpaid laborer

of the whole earth."

"Man's work is from sun to sun,

But woman's work is never done."

"Taxation without representation is tyranny. Woman is taxed to

support pauperism and crime, and is compelled to feed and clothe

the law-makers who oppress her."

"Women are voting on education, the bulwark of the republic, in

Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Colorado, Oregon, New Hampshire and

Massachusetts."

"Women are voting on all questions in Wyoming and Utah. The vote of

women transformed Wyoming from barbarism to civilization."

"The financial problem for woman: equal pay for equal work, and one

hundred cents on the dollar."

"When a woman _Will_, she WILL, and you may depend on it, she WILL

vote."

[54] _California_, Jane B. Archibald; _Connecticut_, Julia E. Smith

(Parker), E. C. Champion; _Delaware_, Mary A. Stuart; _District of

Columbia_, Sara Andrews Spencer, Jane H. Spofford, Ellen H.

Sheldon, Sara J. Messer, Amanda M. Best, Belva A. Lockwood, Mary A.

S. Carey, Rosina M. Parnell, Mary L. Wooster, Helen Rand Tindall,

Lura McNall Orme; _Illinois_, Miss Jessie Waite, daughter of

Caroline V. and Judge Waite; _Indiana_, Zerelda G. Wallace, Emma

Mont McRae; Flora M. Hardin; _Iowa_, Nancy R. Allen; _Kansas_,

Della Ross; _Louisiana_, Elizabeth L. Saxon, _Maine_, Sophronia C.

Snow; _Maryland_, Lavinia Dundore; _Michigan_, Catherine A. F.

Stebbins; _Missouri_, Phoebe W. Couzins; _New Hampshire_, Marilla

M. Ricker; _New Jersey_, Lucinda B. Chandler; _New York_, Susan B.

Anthony, Matilda Joslyn Gage, Lillie Devereux Blake, Dr. A.

W. Lozier, Jennie de M. Lozier, M. D., Helen M. Slocum;

_Pennsylvania_, Rachel G. Foster, Julia T. Foster; _South

Carolina_, Mary R. Pell.

[55] Signed by Matilda Joslyn Gage, _Chairman Executive Committee_:

Susan B. Anthony, _Vice-president-at-large_; Sara Andrews Spencer,

_Corresponding Secretary_: Jane H. Spofford, _Treasurer_.

[56] This week has been devoted almost exclusively to the women,

who as temperance leaders, female suffragists and general

reformers, have become a power in the land which can no longer be

ridiculed or ignored. Yesterday Lincoln Hall was packed to its

utmost capacity with such an audience as no other entertainment or

amusement has ever before gathered in this city. Women of

refinement and cultivation, of thought and purpose, women of

standing and position in society, mothers of families, wives of

clergymen, were there by the hundreds, to listen to the words of

wisdom and eloquence that fell from the lips of that assembly, the

most carefully organized, thoroughly governed, harmoniously acting

association in this great country. Members of congress, professors

of colleges, judges and gentlemen of leisure, sat or stood in

admiration of the progress of the women, who are so earnestly

striving to regenerate our beloved republic, over which the shadow

of anarchy and dissolution is hovering with outspread wings. These

women are no longer trembling suppliants, feeling their way

cautiously and feebly amid an overpowering mass of obstructions;

they are now strong in their might, in their unity, and in the

righteousness of their cause. Men will do wisely if they attract

this power instead of repelling it; if they permit women to work in

concert with them, instead of compelling them to be arrayed against

them. The fate of Governor Robinson and Senator Ecelstine of New

York, indicates what they can do, and what they will do, if obliged

to assume the attitude of aggressors. Congress has heard no such

eloquence upon its floors this week as we have listened to from the

lips of these noble women.--[Washington correspondent of the

Portland (Me.) _Transcript_, Jan. 23, 1880.

These conventions occur yearly and although the ladies have fought

long and hard, and seem to have not yet reached a positive

assurance of success, still they continue to force the fight with

greater earnestness and redoubled energy, and their meetings are

conducted with much wisdom and decided spirit. There is one thing

to the credit of these ladies which cannot be said of the opposite

sex, and that is, their conventions are models of good order and

parliamentary eloquence, and they put their work through in a

graceful, business-like manner.--[Washington _Critic_, Jan. 21,

1880.

The announcement that the public session of the National Woman

Suffrage Convention would begin at one o'clock yesterday afternoon

at Lincoln Hall sufficed to attract a most brilliant audience,

composed principally of ladies, occupying every seat and thronging

the aisles. The inconvenience of remaining standing was patiently

endured by hundreds who seemed loth to leave while the convention

was in progress.--[Washington _National Republican_, Jan. 22, 1880.

The session of the Woman Suffrage Convention in Washington this

week has developed the fact that these strong-minded women are

making progress. The convention itself was composed of women of

marked ability, and its proceedings were marked by dignity and

decorum. The very best citizens of the city attended the

meetings.--[Washington correspondent Syracuse _Daily Standard_.

[57] Letters were read from Mary Powers Filley, N. H.; Martha G.

Tunstall, Texas; M. A. Darling, Mich.; May Wright Thompson, Ind.;

Sarah Burger Stearns, Minn.; Miss Martin, Ill.; W. G. Myers, O.;

Annie L. Quinby, Ky.; Zina Young Williams, Utah; Barbara J.

Thompson, Neb.; Mira L. Sturgis, Me.; Orra Langhorne, Va.; Emily P.

Collins, La.; Charles P. Wellman, esq., Ga.

[58] Judge Edmunds meeting Miss Anthony afterwards, complimented

her on having made an argument instead of what is usually given

before committees, platform oratory. He said her logic was sound,

her points unanswerable. Nor were the delegates familiar with that

line of argument less impressed by it, given as it was without

notes and amid many interruptions. It was one of those occasions

rarely reached, in which the speaker showed the full height to

which she was capable of rising. We have not space for the whole

argument, and the train of reasoning is too close to be

broken.--[M. J. G.

[59] Speeches were also made by Mrs. Saxon, Mrs. Spencer and Miss

Anthony.

[60] _Alabama_, Mrs. P. Holmes Drake, Huntsville. _Connecticut_,

Elizabeth C. Champion, Bridgeport. _District of Columbia_, Belva A.

Lockwood, Eveleen L. Mason, Jerusha G. Joy, Ellen H. Sheldon, Sara

Andrews Spencer, Jane H. Spofford. _Illinois_, Elizabeth Boynton

Harbert, vice-president of the National Association and editor of

the "Woman's Kingdom" in the _Chicago Inter-Ocean_, Evanston;

Dr. Ann M. Porter, Danville. _Indiana_, Mary E. Haggart,

vice-president; Martha Grimes, Zerelda G. Wallace, May Wright

Thompson, A. P. Stanton, Indianapolis; Salome McCain, Frances

Joslin, Crawfordsville; Mrs. Helen M. Gougar, editor of the

"Bric-a-brac department" of the _Lafayette Courier_, Lafayette;

Thomas Atkinson, Oxford; Mrs. Dr. Rogers, Greencastle; Florence M.

Hardin, Pendelton. _Iowa_, Mrs. J. C. M'Kinney, Mrs. Weiser,

Decorah. _Kentucky_, Mary B. Clay, Richmond; Mrs. Carr, Mrs. E. T.

Housh, Louisville. _Louisiana_, Elizabeth L. Saxon, New Orleans,

_Maryland_; Mary A. Butler, Baltimore. _Michigan_, Catherine A. F.

Stebbins, Detroit. _Missouri_, Mrs. Virginia L. Minor, Mrs. Eliza

J. Patrick, Mrs. Annie T. Anderson, Mrs. Caroline Johnson Todd,

Mrs. Endie J. Polk, Miss Phoebe Couzins, Miss M. A. Baumgarten,

Miss Emma Neave, Miss Eliza B. Buckley, St. Louis; Mrs. Frances

Montgomery, Oregon. _New Hampshire_, Parker Pillsbury, Concord.

_New Jersey_, Lucinda B. Chandler. _New York_, Mrs. Blake, Mrs.

Gage, Miss Anthony. _Ohio_, Mrs. Amanda B. Merrian, Mrs. Cordelia

A. Plimpton, Cincinnati; Sophia L. O. Allen, Eva L. Pinney, South

Newberry; Mrs. N. L. Braffet, New Paris. _Pennsylvania_, Rachel

Foster, Julia T. Foster, Philadelphia. _South Carolina_, Mary R.

Pell, Cowden P. O.

[61] _Colorado_, Florence M. Haynes, Greely. _Connecticut_,

Elizabeth C. Champion, Bridgeport. _District of Columbia_; Belva A.

Lockwood, Sara Andrews Spencer, Jane H. Spofford, Ellen H. Sheldon,

Eveleen L. Mason, Jersuha G. Joy, Helen Rand Tindall, Amanda M.

Best, Washington. _Illinois_, Elizabeth Boynton Harbert, Sarah

Hackett Stephenson, Kate Newell Doggett, Catherine V. Waite,

Elizabeth J. Loomis, Alma Van Winkle, Chicago; Dr. Ann Porter,

Danville; Mrs. F. Lillebridge, Rockford; Ann L. Barnett, Lockport;

Mrs. F. A. Ross, Mrs. I. R. Lewison, Mansfield; Amanda Smith,

Prophetstown. _Indiana_, Helen M. Gougar, Lafayette; Dr. Rachel B.

Swain, Gertrude Garrison, Indianapolis. _Iowa_, Nancy R. Allen,

Maquoketa; Jane C. M'Kinney, Mrs. Weiser, Decorah; Virginia

Cornish, Hamburg; Ellen J. Foster, Clinton; Clara F. Harkness,

Humboldt. _Kansas_, Amanda B. Way, Elizabeth M'Kinney, Kenneth.

_Kentucky_, Mary B. Clay, Sallie Clay Bennett, Richmond.

_Louisiana_, Elizabeth L. Saxon, New Orleans. _Maryland_, Mary A.

Butler, Baltimore. _Massachusetts_, Addie N. Ayres, Boston.

_Minnesota_, A. H. Street, Albert Lee. _Michigan_, Catherine A. F.

Stebbins, Detroit; Eliza Burt Gamble, Miss Mattie Smedly, East

Saginaw; P. Engle Travis, Hartford; Dr. Elizabeth Miller, South

Frankford. _Missouri_, Virginia L. Minor, Phoebe W. Couzins, Annie

T. Anderson, Caroline J. Todd, St. Louis; Dr. Augusta Smith,

Springfield. _New Hampshire_, Parker Pillsbury, Concord.

_Nebraska_, Harriet S. Brooks, Omaha; Dr. Amy R. Post, Hastings.

_New Jersey_, Margaret H. Ravenhill. _New York_, Susan B. Anthony,

Rochester; Matilda Joslyn Gage, Fayetteville; Lillie Devereux

Blake, New York city. _Ohio_, Eva L. Pinney, South Newbury; Julia

B. Cole. _Oregon_, Mrs. A. J. Duniway (as substitute), Portland.

_Pennsylvania_, Rachel Foster, Julia T. Foster, Lucinda B.

Chandler, Philadelphia; Cornelia H. Scarborough, New Hope. _South

Carolina_, Mary R. Pell, Cowden P. O. _Tennessee_, Elizabeth Avery

Meriwether, Memphis. _Wisconsin_, Rev. Olympia Brown, Racine;

Almedia B. Gray, Schofield Mills. _Wyoming Territory_, Amelia B.

Post.

[62] HISTORICAL SOCIETY ROOMS, 140-42 DEARBORN AVE.,

CHICAGO, May 19, 1880.

_Mrs. E. C. Stanton, President National Woman Suffrage Association,

476 West Lake street:_

_Dear Madam:_ I write you in behalf of the Chicago Historical

Society, and with the hope that you will obligingly secure for and

present to this society a full manuscript record of the

_mass-meeting_ to be held in Farwell Hall in this city, June 2,

1880, duly signed by its officers. We hope too you will do the

society the great favor to deposit in its archives all the letters

and postals which you may receive in response to your invitations

to attend that meeting.

This meeting may be an important one and long to be remembered. It

is hard to measure the possibilities of 1880. I hope this meeting

will mark an epoch in American history equal to the convention held

in Independence Hall in 1776. How valuable would be the attested

manuscript record of that convention and the correspondence

connected therewith! The records of the Farwell-hall meeting may be

equally valuable one hundred years hence. Please let the records be

kept in the city in which the convention or mass-meeting is held.

I am a Republican. I hope the party to which I belong will be

consistent. On the highest stripe of its banner is inscribed

"Freedom and Equal Rights." I hope the party will not be so

inconsistent as to refuse to the "better half" of the people of the

United States the rights enjoyed by the liberated slaves at the

South.

The leaders should not be content _to suffer it to be so_, but

should work with a will to make it so. I have but little confidence

in the sincerity of the man who will shout himself hoarse about

"shot guns" and "intimidation" at the South, when ridicule and

sneers come from his "shot gun" pointed at those who advocate the

doctrine that our mothers, wives and sisters are as well qualified

to vote and hold official position as the average Senegambian of

Mississippi.

We should be glad to have you and your friends call at these rooms,

which are open and free for all.

Very Respectfully, A. D. HAGER, _Librarian_.

[63] By Mrs. Saxon of New Orleans, La.; Mrs. Meriwether of Memphis,

Mrs. Sallie Clay Bennett, daughter of Cassius M. Clay of Richmond

Ky.; and others. Mrs. Bennett related a little home incident. She

said: A few days ago she was in her front yard planting with her

own hands some roses, when "our ex-governor," passing by,

exclaimed: "Mrs. Bennett, I admire that in you; whatever one wants

well done he must do himself." She immediately answered: "That is

true Governor, and that is why we women suffragists have determined

to do our own voting hereafter." She then informed him that she

wanted to speak to him on that great question. He was rather

anxious to avoid the argument, and expressed his surprise and "was

sorry to see a woman like her, surrounded by so many blessings,

with a kind husband, numerous friends and loving children,

advocating woman suffrage! She ought to be contented with these.

She was not like Miss Anthony--" "Stop, Governor," I exclaimed,

"Don't think of comparing me to that lady, for I feel that I am not

worthy to touch the hem of her garments." She was, she said, indeed

the mother of five dear children, but she [Miss Anthony] is the

mother of a nation of women. She thought the women feared God

rather than man, and it was only this which encouraged them to

speak on this subject, so dear to their hearts, in public. One lady

gave as a reason why she wanted to vote, that it was because "the

men did not want them to," which evoked considerable merriment.

This induced the chair to remind the audience of Napoleon's rule:

"Go, see what your enemy does not want you to do and do it." Of the

audience the _Inter-Ocean_ said: "The speakers of all the sessions

were listened to with rapt attention by the audience, and the

points made were heartily applauded. It would be difficult to

gather so large an audience of our sex whose appearance would be

more suggestive of refinement and intelligence."

[64] Miss Anthony, Mrs. Gage, Mrs. Chandler, Mrs. Spencer and Mrs.

Haggart.

[65] Twenty delegates from eleven different States, who had been in

attendance at Chicago, went to Cincinnati.

[66] Before which Mrs. Gage, Mrs. Meriwether, Miss Anthony, Mrs.

Spencer and Mrs. Blake spoke.

[67] Miss Anthony, Mrs. Gage, Mrs. Blake, Mrs. Meriwether, Mrs.

Saxon, Miss. Couzins, Rev. Olympia Brown, Misses Rachel and Julia

Foster.

[68] This was the last time this noble German woman honored our

platform, as her eventful life closed a few years after.

[69] Among others, from Assemblyman Lord,

State-Superintendent-of-Public-Instruction Whitford, J. M. Bingham

and Superintendent MacAlister.

[70] The delegates were Olympia Brown, _Racine_; L. C. Galt, M. M.

Frazier, _Mukwonago_; E. A. Brown, _Berlin_; E. M. Cooley,

_Eureka_; E. L. Woolcott, _Ripon_; O. M. Patton, M. D., _Appleton_;

H. Suhm, E. Hohgrave, _Sauk City_; M. W. Mabbs, C. M. Stowers,

_Manitowoc_; S. C. Guernsey, _Janesville_; H. T. Patchin, _New

London_; Jennie Pomeroy, _Grand Rapids_; Mrs. H. W. Rice,

_Oconomowoc_; Amy Winship, _Racine_; Almedia B. Gray, Matilda

Graves, Jessie Gray, _Scholfield Mills_; Mrs. Mary Collins,

_Mukwonago_; Mrs. Jere Witter, _Grand Rapids_; Mrs. Lucina E.

DeWolff, _Whitewater_. The Milwaukee delegates were: Dr. Laura R.

Wolcott, Mme. Mathilde Franceske Anneke, Mrs. A. M. Bolds, Mrs. A.

Flagge, Agnes B. Campbell, Mary A. Rhienart, Matilda Pietsch, N. J.

Comstock, Sarah R. Munro, M. D., Juliet H. Severance, M. D., Mrs.

Emily Firega, Carl Doerflinger. Maximillian Grossman and Carl

Herman Boppe.

[71] 1. Silent Invocation. 2. Music. 3. Eulogy, Elizabeth Cady

Stanton. 4. Tributes, Frederick Douglass, Susan B. Anthony. 5.

Music. 6. Tributes, Robert Purvis, May Wright Sewall, Phoebe W.

Couzins. 7. Closing Hymn--"_Nearer, my God, to Thee_."

[72] Of the floral decorations, to which reference is made above as

contributing so largely to the handsome appearance of the stage,

the harp was furnished through Mr. Wormley in behalf of the colored

admirers of Mrs. Mott, and the _epergne_ was provided for the

occasion by the National Association. There was also a basket of

flowers, conspicuous for its beauty, sent in by Senator Cameron of

Pennsylvania.

[73] The eulogy will be found in Volume I., page 407.

[74] See _National Citizen_ of February, 1881.

[75] Edward M. Davis, Susan B. Anthony, Marilla M. Ricker, Rachel

and Julia Foster, Frederick Douglass, Belva A. Lockwood, Robert

Purvis, Elizabeth Cady Stanton. This was the first time that Mrs.

Martha M'Clellan Brown, Miss Jessie Waite, Mrs. May Wright Sewall

and Mrs. Thornton Charles were on our Washington platform. The

latter read a poem on woman's sphere.

[76] A standing committee is a permanent one about which no

question can be raised in any congress. A special committee is a

transient one to be decided upon at the opening of each congress;

hence may be at any time voted out of existence. No one understood

this better than New York's Stalwart senator, and his plausible

manner of killing the measure deceived the very elect. Enough

senators were pledged to have carried Mr. McDonald's motion had it

been properly understood, but they, as well as some of the ladies

in the gallery, were entirely misled by Mr. Conkling's seeming

earnest intention to hasten the demands of the women by a

short-lived committee, and while those in the gallery applauded,

those on the floor defeated the measure they intended to carry.

[77] _Yeas_--Messrs. Beck, Booth, Brown, Coke, Davis (W. Va.),

Eaton, Edmunds, Farley, Garland, Groome, Hill (Ga.), Harris,

Ingalls, Kernan, Lamar, Morgan, Morrill, Pendleton, Platt, Pugh,

Ransom, Saulsbury, Slater, Vance, Vest and Withers--26.

_Nays_--Messrs. Anthony, Blair, Burnside, Butler, Call, Cameron

(Pa.), Cameron (Wis.), Conkling, Dawes, Ferry, Hoar, Johnston,

Jonas, Kellogg, Logan, McDonald, McMillan, McPherson, Rollins,

Saunders, Teller, Williams and Windom--23.

[78] Of this reception the _National Republican_ said: The

attractions presented by the fair seekers of the ballot were so

much superior to those of the dancing reception going on in the

parlors above, that it was almost impossible to form a set of the

lanciers until after the gathering in the lower parlors had

entirely dispersed.

[79] Miss Anthony was presented with a beautiful basket of flowers

from Mrs. Mary Hamilton Williams of Fort Wayne, Ind., and returned

her thanks. Another interesting incident during the proceedings of

the convention was the presentation of an exquisite gold cross from

the "Philadelphia Citizens' Suffrage Association," to Miss Anthony.

Mrs. Sewall of Indianapolis, in a speech so tender and loving as to

bring tears to many eyes, conveyed to her the message and the gift.

Miss Anthony's acceptance was equally happy and impressive. As

during the last thirty years the press of the country has made

Susan B. Anthony a target for more ridicule and abuse than any

other woman on the suffrage platform, it is worth noting that all

who know her now vie with each other in demonstrations of love and

honor.--[E. C. S.

[80] PROVIDENCE, R. I.--First Light Infantry Hall, May 30, 31. Rev.

Frederick A. Hinckley gave the address of welcome.

PORTLAND, Me.--City Hall, June 2, 3. Rev. Dr. McKeown of the M. E.

Church made the address of welcome. Letter read from Dr. Henry C.

Garrish. Among the speakers were Charlotte Thomas, A. J. Grover.

DOVER, N. H.--Belknap Street Church, June 3, 4. Marilla M. Ricker

took the responsibility of this meeting.

CONCORD, N. H.--White's Opera House, June 4, 5. Speakers

entertained by Mrs. Armenia Smith White. Olympia Brown and Miss

Anthony spoke before the legislature in Representatives

Hall--nearly all the members present--the latter returned on Sunday

and spoke on temperance and woman suffrage at the Opera House in

the afternoon, Universalist church in the evening.

KEENE, N. H.--Liberty, Hall, June 9, 10. Prayer offered by Rev. Mr.

Enkins. Mayor Russell presided and gave the address of welcome.

HARTFORD, Ct.--Unity Hall. June 13, 14. Mrs. Hooker presiding;

Frances Ellen Burr, Emily P. Collins, Rev. Phebe A. Hanaford,

Caroline Gilkey Rogers, Mary A. Pell taking part in the meetings.

NEW HAVEN, Ct.--Athaeneum, June 15, 16. Joseph and Abby Sheldon,

Catherine Comstock and others entertained the visitors and

speakers.

The speakers who made the entire New England tour were Rev. Olympia

Brown, Mrs. Gage, Mrs. Saxon, Mrs. Meriwether, the Misses Foster

and Miss Anthony. The arrangements for all these conventions were

made by Rachel Foster of Philadelphia.

CHAPTER XXX.

CONGRESSIONAL DEBATES AND CONVENTIONS.

1882-1883.

Prolonged Discussions in the Senate on a Special Committee to

Look After the Rights of Women, Messrs. Bayard, Morgan and Vest

in Opposition--Mr. Hoar Champions the Measure in the Senate, Mr.

Reed in the House--Washington Convention--Representative Orth and

Senator Saunders on the Woman Suffrage Platform--Hearings Before

Select Committees of Senate and House--Reception Given by Mrs.

Spofford at the Riggs House--Philadelphia Convention--Mrs. Hannah

Whitehall Smith's Dinner--Congratulations from the Central

Committee of Great Britain--Majority and Minority Reports in the

Senate--Nebraska Campaign--Conventions in Omaha--Joint Resolution

Introduced by Hon. John D. White of Kentucky, Referred to the

Select Committee--Washington Convention, January 24, 25, 26,

1883--Majority Report in the House.

Although the effort to secure a standing committee on the political

rights of women was defeated in the forty-sixth congress, by New

York's Stalwart Senator, Roscoe Conkling, motions were made early

in the first session of the forty-seventh congress, by Hon. George

F. Hoar in the Senate, and Hon. John D. White in the House, for a

special committee to look after the interests of women.[81] It

passed by a vote of 115 to 84 in the House, and by 35 to 23 in the

Senate. On December 13, 1881, the Senate Committee on Rules

reported the following resolution for the appointment of a special

committee on woman suffrage:

_Resolved_, That a select committee of seven senators be

appointed by the Chair, to whom shall be referred all

petitions, bills and resolves providing for the extension of

suffrage to women or the removal of their legal

disabilities.

DECEMBER 14.

Mr. HOAR: I move to take up the resolution reported by the

Committee on Rules yesterday, for the appointment of a select

committee on the subject of woman suffrage.

Mr. VEST: Mr. President, I am constrained to object to the

passage of this resolution, and I do it with considerable

reluctance. At present we have thirty standing committees of the

Senate; four joint and seven special committees, in addition to

the one now proposed.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The Chair will inform the senator

from Missouri that a majority of the Senate has to decide whether

the resolution shall be considered.

Mr. VEST: I understood the Chair to state that it was before the

Senate.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: It is before the Senate if there be

no objection. The Chair thought the senator made objection to its

consideration.

Mr. HOAR: It went over under the rule yesterday and comes up now.

Mr. EDMUNDS: It is the regular order now.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: Certainly. The Chair thought the

senator from Missouri objected to its consideration.

Mr. VEST: No, sir.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The resolution is before the Senate

and open to debate.

Mr. VEST: I have had the honor for a few years to be a member of

the Committee on Public Buildings and Grounds, and my colleagues

on that committee will bear witness with me to the trouble and

annoyance which at every session have arisen in regard to giving

accommodations to the special committees. Two sessions ago there

was a conflict between the Senate and House in regard to

furnishing committee-rooms for three special committees, and it

is only upon the doctrine of _pedis possessio_ that the Senate

to-day holds three committee-rooms in the capitol, the House

still laying claim as a matter of law, through their Committee on

Public Buildings and Grounds, for the possession of these rooms.

At the special session, on account of the exigencies in regard to

rooms, we were compelled to take the retiring-room assigned near

the gallery to the ladies, and cut it into two rooms, to

accommodate select committees.

At this session we have created two special committees more, and

I should like to make the inquiry when and where this manufacture

of special committees is to cease? As soon as any subject becomes

one of comment in the newspapers, or, respectfully I say it, a

hobby with certain zealous partisans throughout the country,

application is made to the Senate of the United States and a

special committee is to be appointed. For this reason, and for

the simple reason that a stop must be had somewhere to the

raising of special committees, I oppose the proposition now

before the Senate.

But, Mr. President, I will be entirely ingenuous and give another

reason. This is simply a step toward the recognition of woman

suffrage, and I am opposed to it upon principle in its inception.

In my judgment it has nothing but mischief in it to the

institutions and to the society of this whole country. I do not

propose to enter into a discussion of that subject to-day, but it

will be proper for me to make this statement, and I make it

intending no reflection upon the zealous ladies who have engaged

for the past ten years in manufacturing a public sentiment upon

this question. I received to-day a letter from a distinguished

lady in my own State, for whom I have personally the greatest

admiration and respect, calling my attention to the fact that I

propose to deny justice to the women of the country. Mr.

President, I deny it. It is because I believe that the

conservative influence of society in the United States rests with

the women of the country that I propose not to degrade the wife

and mother to the ward politician, the justice of the peace, or

the notary public. It is because I believe honestly that all the

best influences for the conservation of society rest upon the

women of the country in their proper sphere that I shall oppose

this and every other step now and henceforth as violating, as I

believe, one of the great essential fundamental laws of nature

and of society.

Mr. President, the revenges of nature are sure and unerring, and

these revenges are just as certain in political matters and in

social matters as in the physical world. Now and here I desire to

record once for all my conviction that in this movement to take

the women of the country out of their proper sphere of social

influence, that great and glorious sphere in which nature and

nature's God have placed them, and rush them into the political

arena, the attempt is made to put them where they were never

intended to be; and I now and here record my opposition to it.

This may seem to be but a small matter, but as this letter shows,

and I reveal no private confidence, it recognizes the first great

step in this reform, as its advocates are pleased to term it. My

practice and conviction as a public man is to fight every wrong

wherever I believe it to exist. I am opposed to this movement. I

am opposed to it upon principle, upon conviction, and I shall

call for the yeas and nays in order to record my vote against it.

DECEMBER 15.

The Senate resumed the consideration of the resolution reported

from the Committee on Rules by Mr. Hoar on the 13th inst.

Mr. VEST: Mr. President, I disclaim any intention again to incite

or excite any general discussion in regard to woman suffrage. The

senator from Massachusetts [Mr. Hoar], for whom I have very great

regard, was yesterday pleased to observe that the State

governments furnished by the senator from Missouri and other

senators in the past had been no argument in favor of manhood

suffrage. Mr. President, I have been under the impression that

the American people to-day are the best governed, the best

clothed, the best fed, the best housed, the happiest people upon

the face of the globe, and that, too, notwithstanding the fact

that they have been under the domination of the Republican party

for twenty long years. I have also been under the impression that

the institutions of the States and of the United States are an

improvement upon all governmental theories and schemes hitherto

known to mortal man; but we are to learn to-day from the senator

from Massachusetts that this government and the State governments

have been failures, and that woman suffrage must be introduced in

order to purify the political atmosphere and elevate the

suffrage.

Mr. HOAR: Will the senator allow me to interrupt him for a

moment?

Mr. VEST: Of course.

Mr. HOAR: I desire to disclaim the meaning which the honorable

senator seems to have put upon my words. I agree with him that

the American governments have been the best on the face of the

earth, but it is because of their adoption of that principle of

equality more than any other government, the logical effect of

which will compel them to yield the right prayed for to women,

that they are the best. But still best as they are, I said, and

mean to say, that the business of governing mankind has been the

one business on the face of the earth which has been done most

clumsily, which has been, even where most excellent, full of

mistakes, expense, injustice, and wrong-doing. What I said was

that I did not think the persons to whom that privileged function

had been committed so far were entitled to claim any special

superiority for the masculine intellect in the results which it

had achieved.

Mr. VEST: To say that the governments, State and national, now in

existence upon this continent are imperfect is but to announce

the truism that everything made by man is necessarily imperfect.

But I stand here to declare to-day that the governments of the

States, and the national government, in theory, although failing

sometimes in practice, are a standing monument to the genius and

intellect of the men who created them. But the senator from

Massachusetts was pleased to say further, that woman suffrage

should obtain in this country in the interest of education. I

permit not that senator to go further than myself in the line of

universal public education. I have declared, over and over again,

in every county in my State for the past ten years, that

universal education should accompany universal suffrage, that the

school-house should crown every mound in prairie and forest, that

it was the temple of liberty and the altar of law and order.

I well remember that I was thrilled with the eloquence of the

distinguished senator from Massachusetts at the last session of

the last congress, when, upon a bill to provide for general

education by a donation of the public lands, he so pathetically

and justly described the mass of dark ignorance and illiteracy

projected upon the people of the South under the policy of the

Republican party, and the senator then stood here and said that

the people of Massachusetts extended the public lands to relieve

the people of the South from this monstrous burden. What does the

senator propose to do to-day? He proposes with one stroke of the

pen to double, and more than double, the illiterate suffrage of

the United States. The senator says that one-half the people of

the United States are represented in this measure of woman

suffrage. I deny it, sir. If the senator means that the women of

America, comprising one-half of the population, are interested in

this measure, I deny it most emphatically and most peremptorily.

Not one-tenth of them want it. Not one-tenth of the mothers and

sisters and Christian women of this land want to be turned into

politicians or to meddle in a sphere to which God and nature have

not assigned them.

Sir, there are some ladies--and I do not intend to term them

anything but ladies--who are zealously engaged in this cause, and

they have flooded this hall with petitions, and have called their

women's rights conventions all over the land. I assail not their

motives, but I deny that they represent the women of the United

States. I say that if woman suffrage obtains, the worst class of

the women of the country will rush to the polls and the best

class will remain away by a large majority. That is my deliberate

judgment and firm conviction. But, Mr. President, a word in

regard to the committees. I desire no general discussion upon

woman suffrage, and simply alluded in passing to what had been

said by the senator from Massachusetts.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The hour of one o'clock has arrived,

and the morning hour is closed.

DECEMBER 16.

Mr. JONES of Florida: I desire to call up a resolution now lying

on the table, which I introduced on the 14th instant, calling for

information from the Secretary of War touching a ship-canal

across the peninsula of Florida.

Mr. HOAR: Mr. President--

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The senator from Florida asks leave

to call up a resolution submitted by him.

Mr. HOAR: My resolution was before the Senate yesterday, and

comes up in order. I hope we shall vote on it.

Mr. JONES of Florida: I will only say that my resolution was laid

over temporarily on the objection of the senator from Vermont

[Mr. Edmunds], which he will not insist upon.

Mr. HOAR: Allow me to call the attention of the Chair to the

fact; it is not the question of a resolution which has not been

taken up. The resolution reported by me from the Committee on

Rules was taken up, and was under discussion when the senator

from Missouri [Mr. Vest] was taken from the floor by the

expiration of the morning hour, in the midst of his remarks.

Certainly his right to conclude his remarks takes precedence of

other business under the usual practice of the Senate.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The Chair thought the senator from

Missouri had ended his remarks, or he would not have interposed

when he did.

Mr. HOAR: No, sir.

Mr. JONES of Florida: My resolution involves no debate. It is

merely a resolution of inquiry.

Mr. HOAR: The other will be disposed of, I hope, in a few

moments.

Mr. JONES of Florida: The resolution to which I refer went over

informally on the objection of the senator from Vermont, and I

think he has no objection now.

Mr. HOAR: The other will be disposed of in a moment, and I hope

we shall vote on it.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The Chair lays before the Senate the

resolution of the senator from Massachusetts [Mr. Hoar].

The Senate resumed the consideration of the resolution reported

from the Committee on Rules by Mr. Hoar on the 13th instant.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The Chair would state to the senator

from Missouri [Mr. Vest] that the Chair supposed yesterday that

he had finished his remarks, or the Chair would not have stopped

him at that moment. The question is on agreeing to the

resolution, on which the senator from Missouri [Mr. Vest] is

entitled to the floor.

Mr. VEST: Mr. President, I was on the eve of finishing my remarks

yesterday when the morning hour expired, and I do not now wish to

detain the Senate. I was about to say at that time that the

Senate now has forty-one committees, with a small army of

messengers and clerks, one-half of whom, without exaggeration,

are literally without employment. I shall not pretend to specify

the committees of this body which have not one single bill,

resolution, or proposition of any sort pending before them, and

have not had for months. I am very well aware that if I should

name one of them, Liberty would lie bleeding in the streets at

once, and that committee would become the most important on the

list of committees of the Senate. I shall not venture to do that.

I am informed by the Sergeant-at-arms that if this resolution is

adopted he must have six additional messengers to be added to

that body of ornamental employes who now stand or sit at the

doors of the respective committee-rooms. I have heard that this

committee is for the purpose of giving a committee to a senator

in this body. I have heard the statement made, but I cannot

believe it, and I am very certain that no senator will undertake

to champion the resolution upon any such ground.

The senator from Massachusetts was pleased to say that the

Committee on the Judiciary had so many important questions

pending before it, that the subject of woman suffrage should not

be added to them. The Committee on Territories is open to any

complaint or suggestion by the ladies who advocate woman

suffrage, in regard to this subject in the territories; and the

Committee on Privileges and Elections to which this subject

should go most appropriately, as affecting the suffrage, has not

now before it, as I am informed, one single bill, resolution, or

proposition of any sort whatever. That committee is also open to

inquiry upon this subject.

But, Mr. President, out of all committees without business, and

habitually without business, in this body, there is one that

beyond any question could take jurisdiction of this matter and do

it ample justice. I refer to that most respectable and antique

institution, the Committee on Revolutionary Claims. For thirty

years it has been without business. For thirty long years the

placid surface of that parliamentary sea has been without one

single ripple. If the senator from Massachusetts desires a

tribunal for calm judicial equilibrium and examination, a

tribunal far from the "madding crowd's ignoble strife," a

tribunal eminently respectable, dignified and unique, why not

send this question to the Committee on Revolutionary Claims? When

I name the _personnel_ of that committee it will be evident that

any consideration on any subject touching the female sex would

receive not only deliberate but immediate attention, for the

second member upon that committee is my distinguished friend from

Florida [Mr. Jones], and who can doubt that he would give his

undivided attention to the subject? [Laughter.] It is eminently

proper that this subject should go to that committee because if

there is any revolutionary claim in this country it is that of

woman suffrage. [Laughter.] It revolutionizes society; it

revolutionizes religion; it revolutionizes the constitution and

laws; and it revolutionizes the opinions of those so

old-fashioned among us as to believe that the legitimate and

proper sphere of woman is the family circle as wife and mother

and not as politician and voter--those of us who are proud to

believe that--

A woman's noblest station is retreat;

Her fairest virtues fly from public sight;

Domestic worth--that shuns too strong a light.

Before that Committee on Revolutionary Claims why could not this

most revolutionary of all claims receive immediate and ample

attention? More than that, as I said before, if there is any

tribunal that could give undivided time and dignified attention,

is it not this committee? If there is one peaceful haven of rest,

never disturbed by any profane bill or resolution of any sort, it

is the Committee on Revolutionary Claims. It is, in parliamentary

life, described by that ecstatic verse in Watts' hymn:

There shall I bathe my wearied soul

In seas of endless rest,

And not one wave of trouble roll

Across my peaceful breast.

For thirty years there has been no excitement in that committee,

and it needs to-day, in Western phrase, some "stirring-up." By

all natural laws stagnation breeds disease and death; and what

could stir up this most venerable and respectable institution

more than an application of the strong-minded, with short hair

and shorter skirts, invading its dignified realm and elucidating

all the excellences of female suffrage? Moreover, if these ladies

could ever succeed, in the providence of God, in obtaining a

report from that committee, it would end this question forever;

for the public at large and myself included, in view of that

miracle of female blandishment and female influence, would

surrender at once, and female suffrage would become

constitutional and lawful. Sir, I insist upon it that in

deference to this committee, in deference to the fact that it

needs this sort of regimen and medicine, this whole subject

should be so referred. [Laughter.]

Mr. MORRILL: Mr. President, I do not desire to say anything as to

the merits of the resolution, but I understand the sole purpose

of raising this committee is to have a committee-room. So far as

I know, there are some five or six committees now which are

destitute of rooms, and it would be impossible for the Committee

on Public Buildings and Grounds to assign any room to this

committee--the object which I understand is at the foundation of

the introduction of the proposition; that is to say, to give

these ladies an opportunity to be heard in some appropriate

committee-room on the questions which they wish to agitate and

submit.

Mr. HOAR: They would find room in some other committee-room. They

could have the room of the Committee on Privileges and Elections,

if there were no other place.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The question is on the adoption of

the resolution reported by the senator from Massachusetts.

Mr. HARRIS: Did not the senator from Missouri [Mr. Vest] offer an

amendment?

Mr. GARLAND: As I understand, he moved to refer the subject to

the Committee on Revolutionary Claims.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: Does the Chair understand that the

senator from Missouri has offered an amendment?

Mr. VEST: Yes, sir; I move to refer the matter to the Committee

on Revolutionary Claims.

Mr. CONGER: Let the resolution be reported.

The acting secretary read the resolution.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The senator from Missouri offers an

amendment, that the subject be referred to the standing Committee

on Revolutionary Claims. The question is on the amendment of the

senator from Missouri. [Putting the question.] The noes appear to

have it.

Mr. FARLEY called for the yeas and nays, and they were ordered

and taken.

Mr. BLAIR [after having voted in the negative]: I have voted

inadvertently. I am paired with the senator from Alabama [Mr.

Pugh]. Were he present he would have voted "yea," as I have voted

"nay." I withdraw my vote.

Mr. WINDOM: I am paired with the senator from West Virginia [Mr.

Davis], but as I understand he would vote "nay" on this question,

I vote "nay."

Mr. INGALLS: I am paired with the senator from Mississippi [Mr.

Lamar].

The result was announced--yeas 22, nays 31. So the motion was not

agreed to.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The question recurs on the adoption

of the resolution.

Mr. BAYARD: Is it in order for me to move the reference of the

subject to the Committee on the Judiciary?

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: It is in order to move to refer the

resolution to the Committee on the Judiciary, the Chair

understands.

Mr. BAYARD: Then I make a motion that the resolution be sent to

the Committee on the Judiciary. I would state that I voted with

some regret and hesitancy upon the motion of the senator from

Missouri [Mr. Vest] to refer this matter to the Committee on

Revolutionary Claims. My regret was owing to the fact that I do

not wish even to seem to treat a subject of this character in a

spirit of levity, or to indicate the slightest disrespect by such

a reference, to those whose opinions upon this subject differ

essentially from my own. I cast the vote because I considered it

would be taking the subject virtually away from the consideration

of congress at its present session. I do, however, hold that

there is no necessity for the creation of a special committee to

attend to this subject. The Committee on the Judiciary has within

the last few years, upon many occasions, attempted to deal with

it. Since you, sir, and I have been members of that committee--

Mr. HOAR: Mr. President--

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: Will the senator from Delaware yield

to the senator from Massachusetts?

Mr. BAYARD: I will, if he thinks it necessary to interrupt me.

Mr. HOAR: I desire to ask the senator, if he is willing, having

been lately a member of the committee to which he refers, whether

it is not the rule of that committee to allow no hearings to

individual petitioners, a rule which is departed from only in

very rare and peculiar cases?

Mr. BAYARD: I will reply to the honorable senator that the

occasion which arose to my mind and caused me to remember the

action of that committee was the audience given by it to a very

large delegation of woman suffragists, _to wit_, the

representatives of a convention held in this city, who to the

number, I think, of twenty-five, came into the committee-room of

the Committee on the Judiciary, and were heard, as I remember,

for more than one day, or certainly had more than one hearing,

before that committee, of which you, sir, and I were members.

Mr. HOAR: If the senator will pardon me, however, he has not

answered my question. I asked the senator not whether on one

particular occasion they gave a hearing on this subject, but

whether it is not the rule of that committee, occasioned by the

necessity of its business, from which it departs only in very

rare cases, not to give hearings?

Mr. BAYARD: I cannot answer whether a rule so defined as that

suggested by the honorable senator from Massachusetts exists in

that committee. It is my impression, however, that cases are

frequently, by order of that committee, argued before it. We have

had very elaborate and able arguments upon subjects connected

with the Pacific railroads, I remember; and we have had arguments

upon various subjects. It is constantly our pleasure to hear

members of the Senate upon a variety of questions before that

committee. It may be only a proof that women's rights are not

unrecognized nor their influence unfelt when I state the fact

that if there be such a rule as is suggested by the honorable

senator from Massachusetts of excluding persons from the audience

of that committee, on the occasion of the application of the

ladies a hearing was granted, and they came in force,--not only

force in numbers, but force in the character and intelligence of

those who appeared before the committee. They were listened to

with great respect, but their views were not concurred in by the

committee as it was then composed. We were all entertained by the

bright wit, the clever and, in my judgment, in many respects, the

just sarcasm of our honorable friend from Missouri [Mr. Vest],

but my habit is not to consider public measures in a jocular

light; it is not to consider a question of this kind in a jocular

light. Whatever may be the merits or demerits of this

proposition, whatever may be the reasons for or against it, no

man can doubt that it will strike at the very roots of the

present organization of society, and that its consequences will

be most profound and far-reaching should the advocates of the

measure proposed prevail.

Therefore it is that I think this subject should not be

considered separately; it should not have a special

committee--either of advocates or opponents arranged for its

consideration; but it should go where proposed amendments to the

fundamental law of the land have always been sent for

consideration,--to that committee to which judicial questions,

questions of a constitutional nature, have always in the history

of this government been committed. There is no need, there is no

justice, there is no wisdom in attempting to separate the fate of

this question, which affects society so profoundly and generally,

from the other questions that affect society. It cannot be made a

specialty: it ought not to be. You cannot tear this question from

the great contest of human passions, affections, and interests

which surround it, and treat it as a thing by itself. It has many

sides from which it may be viewed, some that are not proper or

fitting for this forum, and a discussion now in public. There are

the claims of religion itself to be considered in connection with

this case. Civil rights, social rights, political rights,

religious rights, all are bound up in the consideration of a

measure like this. In its consideration you cannot safely attempt

to segregate this question and leave it untouched and

uninfluenced by all those other questions by which it is

surrounded and in the consideration of which it is bound to be

connected and concerned. Therefore, without going further,

prematurely, into a discussion of the merits of the proposition

itself or its desirability, I say that it should take the usual

course which the practice and laws of this body have given to

grave public questions. Let it go to the Committee on the

Judiciary, and let them, under their sense of duty, deal with it

according to its gravity and importance, and if it be here

returned let it be passed upon by the grave deliberations of the

Senate itself. I hope the special committee proposed will not be

raised, and I trust the Senate will concur with me in thinking

that the subject should be sent to the Committee on the

Judiciary.

Mr. LOGAN rose.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The morning hour has expired.

Mr. LOGAN: I want to say just one word.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: It requires unanimous consent.

Mr. LOGAN: I do not wish to make a speech; I merely desire to say

a word in response to what the senator from Delaware [Mr. Bayard]

has said in relation to the reference to the Judiciary Committee.

Mr. HARRIS: I ask unanimous consent that the senator from

Illinois may proceed.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: There being no objection unanimous

consent will be presumed to have been given for the senator from

Illinois to make his explanation.

Mr. LOGAN: This question having been once before the Judiciary

Committee, and it being a request by many ladies, who are

citizens of the United States just as we are, that they should

have a special committee of the Senate before which they can be

heard, I deem it proper and right, without any committal whatever

in reference to my own views, that they should have that

committee. It is nothing but fair, just, and right that they

should have a committee organized as nearly as can be in the

Senate in favor of the views they desire to present. It is

treating them only as other citizens would desire to be treated

before a body of this character. I am, therefore, opposed to the

reference of the proposition to the Judiciary Committee, and I

hope the Senate will give these ladies a special committee where

they can be heard, and that that committee may be so organized as

that it will be as favorable to their views as possible, so that

they may have a fair hearing. That is all I desire to say.

Mr. MORRILL: I hope this subject will be concluded this morning,

otherwise it is to come up constantly and monopolize all the time

of the morning hour. I do not think it will require many minutes

more to dispose of it now.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The Chair will entertain a motion on

that subject.

Mr. MORRILL: I move to set aside other business until this

resolution shall be disposed of. If it should continue any length

of time of course I would withdraw the suggestion.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The senator from Vermont--

Mr. VOORHEES: Mr. President, I feel constrained to call for the

regular order.

DECEMBER 19, 1881.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: Are there further "concurrent or

other resolutions"?

Mr. HOAR: I call up the resolution in regard to woman suffrage,

reported by me from the Committee on Rules.

Mr. JONES of Florida: I ask for information how long the morning

hour is to extend?

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The regular business of the morning

hour is closed. The morning hour, however, will not expire until

twenty minutes past one. The senator from Massachusetts asks to

have taken up the resolution reported by him from the Committee

on Rules.

Mr. HOAR: I hope we may have a vote on the resolution this

morning.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The question is on the amendment

proposed by the senator from Delaware [Mr. Bayard], that the

subject be referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.

Mr. HOAR: It is not intended by the resolution to commit the

Senate, or any senator in the slightest degree to any opinion

upon the question of woman suffrage, but it is merely the

question of a convenient mode of hearing. I hope we shall be

allowed to have a vote on the resolution.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: Is the Senate ready for the question

on the motion of the senator from Delaware?

Mr. BAYARD and Mr. FARLEY called for the yeas and nays, and they

were ordered.

Mr. BECK: Mr. President, I have received a number of

communications from very respectable ladies in my own State upon

this important question; but I am unable to comply with their

request and support the female suffrage which they advocate. I

shall vote for the reference to the Committee on the Judiciary in

order that there may be a thorough investigation of the question.

I wholly disagree with the suggestion of the senator from

Illinois [Mr. Logan], that a committee ought to be appointed as

favorable to the views of these ladies as possible. I desire a

committee that will have no views, for or against them, except

what is best for the public good. Such a committee I understand

the Committee on the Judiciary to be.

I desire to say only in a word that the difficulty I have and the

question I desire the Committee on the Judiciary to report upon

is, the effect of this question upon suffrage. By the fifteenth

amendment to the Constitution of the United States there can be

no discrimination made in regard to voting on account of race,

color or previous condition. Intelligence is properly regarded as

one of the fundamental principles of fair suffrage. We have been

compelled in the last ten years to allow all the colored men of

the South to become voters. There is a mass of ignorance there to

be absorbed that will take years and years of care in order to

bring that class up to the standard of intelligent voters. The

several States are addressing themselves to that task as

earnestly as possible. Now it is proposed that all the women of

the country shall vote; that all the colored women of the South,

who are as much more ignorant than the colored men as it is

possible to imagine, shall vote. Not one perhaps in a hundred of

them can read or write. The colored men have had the advantages

of communication with other men in a variety of forms. Many of

them have considerable intelligence; but the colored women have

not had equal chances. Take them from their wash-tubs and their

household work and they are absolutely ignorant of the new duties

of voting citizens. The intelligent ladies of the North and the

West and the South cannot vote without extending that privilege

to that class of ignorant colored people. I doubt whether any man

will say that it is safe for the republic now, when we are going

through the problem we are obliged to solve, to fling in this

additional mass of ignorance upon the suffrage of the country.

Why, sir, a rich corporation or a body of men of wealth could buy

them up for fifty cents apiece, and they would vote without

knowing what they were doing for the side that paid most. Yet we

are asked to confer suffrage upon them, and to have a committee

appointed as favorable to that view as possible, so as to get a

favorable report upon it!

I want the Committee on the Judiciary to tell the congress and

the country whether they think it is good policy now to confer

suffrage on all the colored women of the South, ignorant as they

are known to be, and thus add to the ignorance that we are now

struggling with, and whether the republic can be sustained upon

such a basis as that. For that reason, and because I want that

information from an unbiased committee, because I know that

suffrage has been degraded sufficiently already, and because it

would be degraded infinitely more if a report favorable to this

extension of suffrage should be adopted and passed through

congress, I am opposed to this movement. No matter if there are a

number of respectable ladies who are competent to vote and desire

it to be done, because of the very fact that they cannot be

allowed this privilege without giving all the mass of ignorant

colored women in the country the right to vote, thus bringing in

a mass of ignorance that would crush and degrade the suffrage of

this country almost beyond conception, I shall vote to refer the

subject to the Judiciary Committee, and I shall await their

report with a good deal of anxiety.

Mr. MORGAN: Mr. President--

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The morning hour has expired, and

the unfinished business is before the Senate.

DECEMBER 20, 1881.

Mr. HOAR: I now call up the resolution for appointing a special

committee on woman suffrage.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The morning hour having expired, the

senator from Massachusetts calls up the resolution which was

under consideration yesterday.

Mr. INGALLS: What is the regular order?

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: There is no regular unfinished

business. The senator from Florida [Mr. Call] gave notice

yesterday that he would ask the indulgence of the Senate to-day

to consider the subject of homestead rights.

Mr. HOAR: I hope this matter may be disposed of. It is very

unpleasant to me to stand before the Senate in this way, taking

up its time with this matter in a five minutes' debate every day

in succession for an unlimited period of time. It is a matter

which every senator understands. It has nothing to do with the

merits of the woman suffrage question at all. It is a mere desire

on the part of these people to have a particular form of hearing,

which seems to me the most convenient for the Senate, and I hope

the Senate will be willing to vote on the resolution and let it

pass.

Mr. MORGAN: I have no objection to proceeding to the

consideration of the resolution, but I desire to address the

Senate upon it.

Mr. HOAR: I think I must ask now as a favor of the senator from

Alabama that he let the resolution be disposed of promptly.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The senator from Alabama states that

he has no objection to the present consideration of the

resolution, but he asks leave to make some remarks upon it. The

Chair hearing no objection to the consideration of the

resolution, it is before the Senate.

Mr. FARLEY: I object to the consideration of the resolution.

Mr. HOAR: I move to take it up.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The senator from Massachusetts calls

it up as a matter of right. If a majority of the Senate agree to

take up the resolution it is before the Senate, and the Chair

will put the question. The question is on agreeing to the motion

of the senator from Massachusetts to proceed to the consideration

of the resolution. [The motion was agreed to; and the Senate

resumed the consideration of the resolution reported from the

Committee on Rules by Mr. Hoar on the 13th instant, which was

read.]

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The pending question is on the

motion of the senator from Delaware [Mr. Bayard] to refer the

subject to the Committee on the Judiciary, on which the yeas and

nays have been ordered.

Mr. MORGAN: Mr. President, I stand in a different relation to

this question from that of the senator from Kentucky [Mr. Beck],

who said yesterday that he had received a number of

communications from very respectable ladies in his own State upon

this very important subject, and yet felt constrained by a sense

of duty to deny the action which they solicited at the hands of

congress. I am not informed that any woman from Alabama has ever

sent a petition to the Senate, or to either house, upon this

matter. Indeed, it is my impression that no petitions or letters

have ever been addressed by any lady in the State of Alabama to

either house of congress upon this question. It may be that that

peculiar type of civilization which drives women from their homes

to the ballot-box to seek redress and protection against their

husbands has never yet reached the State of Alabama, and I shall

not be disagreeably disappointed if it should never come upon our

people, for they have lived in harmony and in prosperity now for

many years. Besides the relief which the State has seen proper to

give to married women in respect of their separate estates, we

have not thought it wise or politic in any sense to go further

and undertake to make a line of demarkation between the husband

and wife as politicians. On the contrary, according to our

estimate of a proper civilization, we look to the family relation

as being the true foundation of our republican institutions.

Strike out the family relation, disband the family, destroy the

proper authority of the person at the head of the family, either

the wife or the husband, and you take from popular government all

legitimate foundation.

The measure which is now brought before the Senate of the United

States is but the initial measure of a series which has been

urged upon the attention of States and territories, and upon the

attention of the Congress of the United States in various forms

to draw a line of political demarkation through a man's

household, through his fireside, and to open to the intrusion of

politics and politicians that sacred circle of the family where

no man should be permitted to intrude without the consent of both

the heads of the family. What picture could be more disagreeable

or more disgusting than to have a pot-house politician introduce

himself into a gentleman's family, with his wife seated at one

side of the fireplace and himself at the other, and this man

coming between to urge arguments why the wife should oppose the

policy that the husband advocates, or that the husband should

oppose the policy that the wife advocates?

If this measure means anything it is a proposition that the

Senate of the United States shall first vote to carry into effect

this unjust and improper intrusion into the home circle. Suppose

this resolution to raise a select committee should be passed:

that committee will have its hands full and its ears full of

petitions and applications and speeches from strong-minded women,

and of course it must make some report to the Senate; and we

shall have this subject introduced in here as one that requires a

peculiar application of the powers of the Senate for its

digestion and for the completion of the bills and measures

founded upon it. At the next session of congress this select

committee will become a standing committee of the Senate, and

then we shall have that which appears to be the most potential

and at the same time the most dangerous element in politics

to-day, agitation, agitation, agitation. It seems that the

legislators of the United States Government are not to be allowed

to pass in quiet judgment upon measures of this character, but

like many other things which are addressing themselves to the

attention of the people on this side of the water and the other,

they must all be moved against the Senate and against the House

by agitation. You raise your committee and allow the agitators to

come before them, yea, more than that, you invite them to come;

and what is the result? The Congress of the United States will

for the next ten or perhaps twenty years be continually assailed

for special and peculiar legislation in favor of the women of the

land.

I do not understand that a woman in this country has any more

right to a select committee than a man has. It would be just as

rational and as proper in every legislative and parliamentary

sense to have a select committee for the consideration of the

rights of men as to have a committee for the consideration of the

rights of women. I object, sir, to this disseverance between the

sexes, and I object to the Senate of the United States giving its

sanction in advance or in any way to this character of

legislation. It is a false principle, and it will work evil, and

only evil, in this country.

What jurisdiction do you expect to exercise in the Senate of the

United States for the benefit of the women in respect of suffrage

or in respect of separate estates? Where are the boundaries of

your jurisdiction? You find them in the territories and in the

District of Columbia. If you expect to proceed into the States

you must have the Constitution of the United States amended so as

to put our wives and our daughters upon the footing of those who

are provided for in the fourteenth and fifteenth amendments. Your

jurisdiction is limited to the territories and to the District of

Columbia.

Inasmuch as this measure, I understand, has been made a party

measure by the decree of a caucus, I propose to make some little

inquiry into the past legislation of the Congress of the United

States under Republican rule in respect of the extension of the

right of suffrage to certain classes of people in this country. I

will take up first the territories.

Let us look for a moment at the result of woman suffrage in some

of the territories. The territorial legislature of Utah has gone

forward and conferred the right of suffrage upon women. The

population in the last decade has reached from 64,000, I believe,

to about 150,000. The territorial legislature of Utah conferred

upon the females of that territory the right of suffrage, and how

have they exercised that right? Sir, I am ashamed to say it, but

it is known to the world that the power of Mormonism and polygamy

in Utah territory is sustained by female suffrage. You cannot get

rid of those laws. Ninety per cent. of the legislative power of

Utah territory is Mormon and polygamous. If female suffrage is to

be incorporated into the laws of our country with a view to the

amelioration of our morals or our political sentiments, we stand

aghast at the spectacle of what has been wrought by its exercise

in the territory of Utah. There stands a power supporting the

crime of polygamy through what they call a divine inspiration, or

teaching from God, and all the power of the judges of the United

States and of the Congress of the United States has been

unavailing to break it down. Who have upheld it? Those who in the

family circle represent one husband to fifteen women. A continual

accumulation of the power of the church and of polygamy is going

on, and when the Gentiles, as they are called, enter that

territory with the view of breaking it up they are confronted by

the women, who are allowed to vote, and from whom we should

naturally expect a better and a higher morality in reference to

subjects of the kind. But this only shows the power of man over

woman. It only shows how through her tender affections, her

delicate sensibilities, and her confiding spirit she can be made

the very slave and bond-servant of man, and can scarcely ever be

made an independent participant in the stronger exercise of the

powers which God seems to have intrusted to him. Never was there

a picture more disgusting or more condemnatory of the extension

of the franchise to women as contradistinguished from men than is

presented in the territory of Utah to-day.

Where is the necessity of raising the number of voters in the

United States from 10,000,000 to 20,000,000? That would be the

direct effect of conferring suffrage upon the women, for they are

at least one-half, if not a little more than one-half, of the

entire population of the country above the age of twenty-one. We

have now masses of voters so enormous in numbers as that it seems

to be almost beyond the power of the law to execute the purposes

of the elective franchise with justice, with propriety, and

without crime. How much would these difficulties and these

intrinsic troubles be increased if we should raise the number of

voters from 10,000,000 to 20,000,000 in the United States? That

would be the direct and immediate effect of conferring the

franchise upon the women. What would be the next effect of such

an extension of the suffrage? It was described by my friend from

Missouri [Mr. Vest] and by other senators who have spoken upon

this subject. The effect would be to drive the ladies of the

land, as they are termed, the well-bred and well-educated women,

the women of nice sensibilities, within their home circle, there

to remain, while the ruder of that sex would thrust themselves

out on the hustings and at the ballot-box, and fight their way to

the polls through negroes and others who are not the best of

company even at the polls, to say nothing of the disgrace of

association with them. You would paralyze one-third at least of

the women of this land by the very vulgarity of the overture made

to them that they should go struggling to the polls in order to

vote in common with the herd of men. They would not undertake it.

The most intelligent and trustworthy part of the suffrage thus

placed upon the land would never be available, while that which

was not worthy of respect either for its character or for its

information would take the matter in hand and move along in the

circle of politicians to cast their suffrages at the ballot-box.

As the States to be formed out of the territories are admitted

into the Union, they will come stamped with the characteristics

which the legislatures of the territories have imprinted upon

them; and if after due consideration in those territories the men

who have the regulation of public affairs should come to the

conclusion that it was best to have woman suffrage, then we can

allow them, under existing laws, to go on and perfect their

systems and apply for admission into the Union with them as they

may choose to adopt them and to shape them. The law upon that

subject as it exists is liberal enough, for it gives to the

legislatures the right to regulate the qualifications of

suffrage. It leaves it to each local community, wherever it may

be throughout the territories of the United States, to determine

for itself what it may prefer to have.

Is it the object in the raising of this committee only that it

shall have so many speeches made, so much talk about it, or is it

to be the object of the committee to have legislation brought

here? If you bring legislation here, what will you bring? An

amendment to the constitution like the fourteenth amendment, or

else some provision obligatory upon the territories by which

female suffrage shall be allowed there, whether the people want

it or whether they do not? For my part, before this session of

congress ends I intend to introduce a bill to repeal woman

suffrage in the territory of Utah, knowing and believing that

that will be the most effectual remedy for the extirpation of

polygamy in that unfortunate territory. If you choose to repeal

the laws of any territory conferring the right of suffrage upon

women you have the power in congress to do it; but there are no

measures introduced here and none advocated in that direction.

The whole drift of this movement is in the other direction. This

committee is sought to be raised either for the accommodation of

some senator who wants a chairmanship and a clerk, or it is

sought to be raised for the purpose of encouraging a raid on the

laws and traditions of this country, which I think would end in

our total demoralization, I therefore oppose this measure in the

beginning, and I expect to oppose it as far as it may go.

Now let us notice for a moment the case of the District of

Columbia. There are some senators here who have given themselves

a great deal of trouble in the advocacy of the right of suffrage

of the people of the United States, and especially of the colored

people. They put themselves to great trouble, and doubtless at

some expense of feeling, to worry and beset and harry gentlemen

who come from certain States of this Union, in reference to the

votes of the negroes: and yet these very gentlemen have been

either in this House or in the other when the Republican party

has had a two-thirds majority of both branches and has

deliberately taken from the people of the District of Columbia

the right to elect any officer from a constable to a mayor, all

because when the experiment was tried here it was found that the

negroes were a little too strong. There was too much African

suffrage in the ballot-box, and they must get rid of it, and to

get rid of it on terms of equality they have disfranchised every

man in the District of Columbia.

I shall have more faith in the sincerity of the declarations of

gentlemen of their desire to have the women vote when I see that

they have made some step toward the restoration of the right of

suffrage to the people of the District of Columbia. While they

let this blot remain upon our law, while they allow this damning

conviction to stand, they may stare us in the face and accuse us

continually of a want of candor and sincerity on this subject,

but they will address their arguments to me in vain, even as

coming from men who have an infatuation upon the subject. I do

not believe a word of it, Mr. President.

I cannot be convinced against these facts that this new movement

in favor of female suffrage means anything more than to add

another patch to the worn-out garment of Republicanism, which

they patched with Mahoneism in Virginia, with repudiation

elsewhere, and which they now seek to patch further by putting on

the delicate little silk covering of woman suffrage. I do not

believe that this movement has its root and branch in any sincere

desire to give to the women of this land the right of suffrage. I

think it is a mere party movement with a view of attempting to

draw into the reach of the Republican party some little support

from the sympathy and interest they suppose the ladies will take

in their cause if they should advocate it here. No bill, perhaps,

is expected to be reported. The committee will sit and listen and

profess to be charmed and enlightened and instructed by what may

be said, and then the subject will be passed by without any

actual effort to secure the passage of a bill.

Introduce your bills and let them go to the Judiciary Committee,

where the rights of men are to be considered as well as the

rights of women. If this subject is of that pressing national

importance which senators seem to think it is, it is not to be

supposed that the Committee on the Judiciary will fail to give it

profound and early attention. When you bring a select committee

forward under the circumstances under which this is to be raised,

you must not expect us to give credit generally to the idea that

the real purpose is to advance the cause of woman suffrage, but

rather that the real purpose is to advance the cause of political

domination in this country. I can see no reason for the raising

of this select committee, unless it be to furnish some senator,

as I have remarked, with a clerk and messenger. If that were the

avowed reason or could even be intimated, I think I should be

disposed to yield that courtesy to the senator, whoever he might

be; but I cannot do it under the false pretext that the real

object is to bring forward measures here for the introduction of

woman suffrage into the District of Columbia, where we have no

suffrage, or into the territories, where they have all the

suffrage that the territorial legislatures see proper to give

them. I therefore shall oppose the resolution.

Mr. BAYARD: I move the that Senate proceed to the consideration

of executive business. [The motion was agreed to.]

JANUARY 9, 1882.

Mr. HOAR: I now ask for the consideration of the resolution

relating to a select committee on woman suffrage.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: There being ten minutes left of the

morning hour, the senator from Massachusetts [Mr. Hoar] asks for

the consideration of the resolution relating to woman suffrage.

The pending question is on the motion of the senator from

Delaware [Mr. Bayard] to refer the subject-matter to the

Committee on the Judiciary, on which the yeas and nays have been

ordered.

The principal legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.

Mr. BUTLER (when Mr. Pugh's name was called): I was requested by

the senator from Alabama [Mr. Pugh] to announce his pair with the

senator from New York [Mr. Miller].

The roll-call was concluded.

Mr. TELLER: On this question I am paired with the senator from

Alabama [Mr. Morgan]. If the senator from Alabama were present, I

should vote "nay."

Mr. MCPHERSON (after having voted in the affirmative): I rise to

ask the privilege of withdrawing my vote. I am paired with my

colleague [Mr. Sewell] on all political questions, and this seems

to have taken a political shape.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The senator from New Jersey

withdraws his vote.

The result was announced--yeas 27, nays 31. So the motion was not

agreed to.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The question recurs on the adoption

of the resolution.

Mr. EDMUNDS: Let it be read for information. The secretary read

the resolution.

Mr. EDMUNDS: "Shall" ought to be stricken out and "may" inserted,

because the Senate ought always to have the power to refer any

particular measure as it pleases.

Mr. HOAR: I have no objection to that modification.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The senator from Massachusetts

accepts the suggestion of the senator from Vermont, and the word

"may" will be substituted for "shall."

Mr. HILL of Georgia: I wish to say that I have opposed all

resolutions, whether originating on the other side of the chamber

or on this side, appointing special committees. They are all

wrong. They are not founded, in my judgment, on a correct

principle. There is no necessity to raise a select committee for

this business. The standing committees of the Senate are ample to

do everything that it is proposed the select committee asked for

shall do. The only result of appointing more special committees

is to have just that many more clerks, just that much more

expense, just that many more committee-rooms. This is not the

first time I have opposed the raising of a select committee.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The morning hour has expired, and it

requires unanimous consent for the senator from Georgia to

proceed with his remarks.

JANUARY 21, 1882.

Mr. HOAR: I move that the Senate proceed with the consideration

of the resolution.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: If there is no objection, unanimous

consent will be assumed.

Mr. FARLEY and others: I object.

Mr. HOAR: I move that the Senate proceed with the consideration

of the resolution.

Mr. SHERMAN: Let it be proceeded with informally, subject to the

call for other business.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The question is on the motion of the

senator from Massachusetts. [Putting the question.] The Chair is

uncertain from the sound and will ask for a division.

The motion was agreed to; there being on a division--ayes 32,

noes 20.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The resolution is before the Senate

and the senator from Georgia [Mr. Hill] has the floor.

Mr. HILL of Georgia: Mr. President, I do not intend to say one

word on the subject of woman suffrage. I shall not get into that

discussion which was alluded to by the senator from

Massachusetts. The senator will remember, if he refreshes his

recollection, that when my late colleague, now no longer a

senator, made a motion for the appointment of a select committee

in relation to the inter-oceanic canal, I opposed it distinctly,

though it came from my colleague, upon the ground that the

appointment of select committees ought to stop, that it was

wrong; and I oppose this resolution for the same reason. I voted

against a resolution to raise a select committee offered by a

senator on this side of the chamber at the present session, and I

have voted against all resolutions of that character.

No senator, in my judgment, will rise in his place in the Senate

and say that it is necessary to appoint a special committee to

consider the matters referred to in the resolution. It is true I

am a member of the committee, and perhaps ought not to refer to

it, but we have a standing committee, of which the distinguished

senator from Massachusetts [Mr. Hoar] is chairman, the Committee

on Privileges and Elections, that, I take occasion to say, is a

very proper committee for this matter to go to; and that

committee has almost nothing on earth to do. There is but one

single subject-matter now before it, and I believe there will be

scarcely another question before that committee at this session.

There is not a contested election; there is not a dispute about

anybody's seat; and yet it is a Committee on Privileges and

Elections. What is the reason for going on continually and

appointing these select committees, when there are standing

committees here, properly organized to consider the very question

specified by the resolution, with nothing to do?

Now, I am going to say one other thing, I do not pretend that the

purpose I am now about to state is the purpose of the senator

from Massachusetts. I have no reflections to make as to what this

resolution is intended for, but we do know that there is an idea

abroad that select committees are generally appointed for the

purpose of giving somebody a chairmanship, that somebody may have

a clerk. That is not the case here, I dare say. I do not mean to

intimate that it is the case here, but it ought to be put a stop

to; it is all wrong. I think, though, that there ought to be a

resolution passed by this body giving every senator who has not a

committee a clerk. Everybody knows that every chairman of a

committee has a clerk in the clerk of that committee. The other

senators, at least in my opinion, ought each to have a clerk. I

would vote for such a resolution. I believe it would be right,

and I believe the country would approve it. Every senator knows

that he has more business to attend to here than he can possibly

perform. Why, sir, if I were to attend to all the business in the

departments and otherwise that my constituents ask me to perform,

I could not discharge half my duties in this chamber; and every

senator, I dare say, has the same experience. It is to the

public interest, therefore, in my judgment, that every senator

should have a clerk. I am unable to employ a clerk from my own

funds; many other senators are more fortunately situated; but

still I must do that or move the appointment of a special

committee for the purpose in an indirect way of getting a clerk.

It is not right.

It has been said that if senators each have a clerk, for

instance, a clerk at $100 a month salary during the session,

which would be a very small matter, the members of the other

House would each want a clerk. It does not follow. There is a

vast difference. A member of the other House represents a narrow

district, a single district; a senator represents a whole State.

Take the State of New York. There are thirty-three

representatives in the House from the State of New York; there

are but two senators here from that State. Those two senators in

all likelihood have as much business to perform here for their

constituents as the thirty-three members of the House. There is,

therefore, an eminent reason why a senator should have a clerk

and why a member of the House should not.

I cannot vote for the appointment of select committees unless you

raise a select committee for every senator in the body so as to

give him a clerk. You have appointed select committees for this

business and for that. It gives a few men an advantage when the

business of the country does not require it, whereas if you

appointed a clerk for each senator, with a nominal salary of $100

per month during the session, it would enable every senator to do

his work more efficiently both here and for his constituents; it

would put all the senators on a just equality; it would be in

furtherance of the public interest; and it would avoid what I

consider (with all due deference and not meaning to be offensive)

the unseemly habit of constantly moving the appointment of select

committees in this body. This is all I have to say. I vote

against the resolution simply because I am opposed to the

appointment of a select committee for this or any other purpose

that I can now think of.

The PRESIDENT _pro tempore_: The question is on the adoption of

the resolution.

Mr. VEST called for the yeas and nays, and they were ordered, and

the principal legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.

Mr. JONES of Florida (when his name was called): I propose to

vote for this resolution, but at the same time I do not regard my

vote as in any way committing myself on the subject of female

suffrage. If they think an investigation of this subject should

be had in this way, I for one am willing to have it. I vote

"yea."

Mr. TELLER, (when his name was called): On this question I am

paired with the senator from Alabama [Mr. Morgan]; otherwise I

should vote "yea."

The roll-call having been concluded, the result was

announced--yeas 35, nays 23; so the resolution was agreed

to.[82]

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, December 20, 1881.

Mr. WHITE of Kentucky: I ask consent to offer for consideration

at this time the resolution which I send to the clerk's desk.

The clerk read as follows:

_Resolved_, That a select committee of seven members of the

House of Representatives be appointed by the Speaker, to

whom shall be referred all petitions, bills and resolves

providing for the extension of suffrage to women, or for the

removal of legal disabilities.

Mr. MILLS of Texas: I object.

Mr. KELLEY of Pennsylvania: A similar resolution has already been

referred to the Committee on Rules.

The SPEAKER (Mr. Keifer of Ohio): Objection being made to its

consideration at this time, the resolution will be referred to

the Committee on Rules.

The resolution was referred accordingly.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, February 25, 1882.

Mr. REED of Maine: I rise to make a privileged report. The

Committee on Rules, to whom were referred sundry resolutions

relating to the subject, have instructed me to report the

resolution which I send to the desk.

The clerk read as follows:

_Resolved_, That a select committee of nine members be

appointed, to whom shall be referred all petitions, bills

and resolves asking for the extension of suffrage to women

or the removal of their legal disabilities.

The SPEAKER: The question is on the adoption of the report of the

Committee on Rules.

Mr. HOLMAN of Indiana: I ask that the latter portion of the

resolution be again read. It was not heard in this part of the

house.

The resolution was again read.

Mr. TOWNSHEND of Illinois: I rise to make a parliamentary

inquiry.

The SPEAKER: The gentleman will state it.

Mr. TOWNSHEND: My inquiry is whether that resolution should not

go to the House calendar.

The SPEAKER: It is a privileged report under the rules of the

House from the Committee on Rules. The question is on the

adoption of the resolution.

Mr. MCMILLIN of Tennessee: I make the point of order that it must

lie over for one day.

The SPEAKER: It is the report of a committee privileged under the

rules.

Mr. MCMILLIN: The committee are privileged to report, but under

the rule the report has to lie over a day.

The SPEAKER: The gentleman from Tennessee will oblige the Chair

by directing his attention to any rule which requires such a

report to lie over one day. It changes no standing rule or order

of the House.

Mr. MCMILLIN: It does, by making a change in the number and

nature of the committees. All measures of a particular class, the

resolution states, must be referred to the proposed committee,

whereas heretofore they have been referred to a different

committee. Therefore the resolution changes the rules of the

House.

The SPEAKER: The Chair is of opinion the resolution does not

rescind or change any standing rule of the House. The question is

on the adoption of the resolution.

Mr. SPRINGER: Mr. Speaker, I desire to call the attention of the

Chair to the fact that this does distinctly change one of the

standing rules of the House. One of the standing rules is--

The SPEAKER: The Chair has passed on that question, and no appeal

has been taken from his decision.

Mr. SPRINGER: I desire to call the attention of the Chair to Rule

10, which specifically provides for the appointment of the full

number of committees this House is to have, and this is not one

of them.

The SPEAKER: Not one of the standing committees, but a select

committee.

Mr. SPRINGER: That rule provides there shall be a certain number

of committees, the names of which are therein given.

Mr. REED: I sincerely hope this will not be made a matter of

technical discussion or debate. It is a matter upon which members

of this House must have opinions which they can express by

voting, in a very short time, without taking up the attention of

the House beyond what is really necessary for a bare discussion

of the merits of the question.

Mr. MCMILLIN: Will the gentleman permit me to ask him a question?

Mr. REED: Certainly.

Mr. MCMILLIN: Would you not, as a parliamentarian, concede that

this does change the existing rules of the House?

Mr. REED: By no manner of means, especially when the accomplished

Speaker has decided the other way, and no gentleman has taken an

appeal from his decision. [Laughter.]

Mr. MCMILLIN: Then you have no opinion beyond his decision?

The SPEAKER: The Chair will state to the gentleman from Illinois

[Mr. Springer] that this resolution does not change any of the

standing committees of the House which are provided for in Rule

10.

Mr. SPRINGER: It provides for a new committee.

The SPEAKER: It provides for a select committee. The subject was

referred to the Committee on Rules by order of the House, and

this is a report on the resolution so referred.

Mr. SPRINGER: The rule provides that no standing rule or order of

the House shall be rescinded or changed without one day's notice.

The SPEAKER: The Chair would decide that this does not propose

any change or rescinding of any standing rule of the House.

Mr. SPRINGER: Does the Chair hold that the making of a new rule

is not a change of the existing rules?

The SPEAKER: The Chair does not decide anything of the kind.

Mr. SPRINGER: What does the Chair decide?

The SPEAKER: The Chair does not undertake to decide any such

question, for it is not now presented.

Mr. SPRINGER: Is this not a new rule?

The SPEAKER: It is not.

Mr. SPRINGER: It is not?

The SPEAKER: It is a provision for a select committee.

Mr. SPRINGER: Can you have a committee without a rule of the

House providing for it?

The SPEAKER: The question is on the adoption of the resolution

reported from the Committee on Rules.

Mr. ATKINS: On that question I call for the yeas and nays.

The yeas and nays were ordered.

The question was taken and there were--yeas 115, nays 84, not

voting 93; so the resolution was carried.[83]

Mr. REED moved to reconsider the vote by which the resolution was

adopted; and also moved that the motion to reconsider be laid on

the table. The latter motion was agreed to.

On Monday, March 13, 1882, the Chair announced the appointment of

the following gentlemen as the Select Committee on Woman Suffrage

authorized by the House: Mr. Camp of New York, Mr. White of

Kentucky, Mr. Sherwin of Illinois, Mr. Stone of Massachusetts,

Mr. Hepburn of Iowa, Mr. Springer of Illinois, Mr. Vance of North

Carolina, Mr. Muldrow of Mississippi and Mr. Stockslager of

Indiana.

The Annual Washington Convention was held in Lincoln Hall as usual,

January 18, 19, 20, 1882. The afternoon before the convention, at

an executive session held at the Riggs House, forty delegates were

present from fourteen different States.[84] Among these were five

from Massachusetts, and for the first time that State was

represented on the platform of the National Association. Mrs.

Stanton gave the opening address, and made some amusing criticisms

on a recent debate on Senator Hoar's proposition for a special

committee on the rights and disabilities of women. Such a committee

had been under debate for several years and it was during this

convention that the bill passed the Senate.

Invitations to attend the convention were sent to all the members

of congress, and many were present during the various sessions.

Miss Ellen H. Sheldon, secretary, read the minutes of the last

convention, and, instead of the usual dry skeleton of facts, she

gave a glowing description of that eventful occasion. Clara B.

Colby gave an interesting narration of the progress of woman

suffrage in Nebraska, and of the efforts being made to carry the

proposition pending before the people, to strike the word "male"

from the constitution in the coming November election.

Rev. Frederick A. Hinckley of Providence, R. I., spoke upon "Our

Demand in the Light of Evolution." He said:

It is about a century since our forefathers declared that

"governments derive their just powers from the consent of the

governed," and about a half century since woman began to see that

she ought to be included in this declaration. At present the

expressions of the Declaration of Independence are a "glittering

generality," for only one-half of the people "consent." Modern

science has demonstrated the truth of evolution--like causes

produce like results--and this is seen in the progress of

government and of woman. From the time when physical force ruled,

up to the present, when _ostensibly_ in the United States every

person is his own ruler, there have been many steps. The

importance of the masses has steadily taken the place of the

importance of individuals. At first the idea was "You shall obey

because I say so"; then, "You shall obey because I am your

superior, and will protect you"; now it is "Everyone shall be his

own protector." But we do not live up to this idea while only

one-half instead of the whole of "everyone" is his own protector.

The phases of woman's advancement are fitly described by the four

words--slave, subject, inferior, dependent; and no step in this

advance has been accomplished without a hard struggle. The logic

of evolution in government points to universal suffrage. The same

logic points to unqualified individual freedom for woman.

Mrs. Blake in reporting from her State said:

Governor Cornell was the first New York Governor to mention woman

in an inaugural address, and the bill allowing women to vote in

school elections was passed the same winter. There was a great

deal of opposition in different parts of the State to the voting

of women. In some country districts where the polls are in the

school-houses, certain men went early and locked the doors,

filled the room with smoke and even put tobacco on the stoves to

make it as disagreeable for the women as possible. More

respectable men had to ventilate and clean the rooms to make them

decent for either man or woman. From this lowest class of

opponents up to those who say: "My dear, you'd better not make

yourself conspicuous!" the spirit is the same. Believing that

under our constitution women are already entitled to the ballot,

we do not ask for a constitutional amendment, but for a bill

extending the suffrage at once.

Mrs. COLBY in contrast to this stated that in Nebraska the

greatest courtesy had always been shown to women who voted at

school elections. There is only one organized effort against

woman suffrage, and that is made by the "Sons of Liberty!" "O,

Consistency, thou art a jewel!"

The following resolution introduced into the Senate, January 11, by

Mr. Morgan of Alabama, was finally referred to the Committee on

Woman Suffrage. This was the first subject brought before them for

action.

_Resolved_, That the committee on "The extension of suffrage

to women, or the removal of their disabilities," be directed

to examine into the state of the law regulating the right of

suffrage in the territory of Utah, and report a bill to set

aside and annul any law or laws enacted by the legislature

of said territory conferring upon women the right of

suffrage.

Miss Couzins made an admirable speech on the following resolution:

_Resolved_, That Senator Morgan's bill to deprive the

_women_ of Utah of the right of suffrage because of the

social institutions and religious faith originated and

maintained by the _men_ of the territory, is a travesty on

common justice. While the wife has not absolute possession

of even one husband, and the husband has many wives, surely

the men and not the women, if either, should be deprived of

the suffrage.

Miss COUZINS said: The task of dealing fairly and justly with

this territorial complication should never be committed to the

blundering legislation of man alone. His success as a legislator

and executive for woman in the past does not inspire a confidence

that in this most serious problem he will be any the less an

unbiased judge and law-giver. This government of men permitted

the establishment of a religious colony, so called, whose basis

of faith was the complete humiliation of women; recognized the

system by appointing its chief, Brigham Young, governor of the

territory, under whose fostering care polygamy grew to its

present proportions.

That woman has not thrown off the yoke of religious despotism can

be readily appreciated when we recognize the fact that man, from

time immemorial, has played upon her religious faith to exalt his

own attributes and degrade hers; that through this teaching her

abiding belief in his superior capacity to interpret scriptural

truths for her has been the means of sacrificing her power of

mind, her tender affections, her delicate sensibilities, on the

altar of his base selfishness throughout the ages. Orthodoxy

recognizes no "inspiration" for woman to-day. She is not "called"

save to serve man. Under its teaching her thought has been

padlocked in the name of Divinity, and her lips sealed in

sacrilegious pretense of authority from heaven; and nothing so

clearly bespeaks the degenerating influence of the ages of this

masculine teaching as the absolute faith manifested by the women

of Utah in this _ipse dixit_ of man's religious doctrine. Their

emancipation must necessarily be slow.

The paternal government allowed polygamy to be planted, take

root, and grow in a wilderness where the attraction of nobler

minds and freer thoughts was not known. The victims came from the

political despotisms of the old world to be shackled in a land of

freedom with a still darker despotism, and under the aegis of the

American flag they have borne children as a religious duty they

owed to God and man; and surely it can not be expected, even with

that grand emancipator, from king and priestcraft rule, the

ballot, that at once they will vote themselves outcast and their

children illegitimate.

It took the white men of this nation one hundred years to put

away that relic of barbarism, slavery; the removal of the twin

relic will come through liberty for woman, higher education for

children, and the incoming tide of Gentile immigration. The

fitting act of justice is not disfranchisement of woman, as

Senator Morgan proposes, and the reenactment of that old Adamic

cry: "The woman whom thou gavest," but the disfranchisement of

man, who is the only polygamist, and the stepping down and out of

the sex as a legislator under whose fostering care this evil has

grown. Retire to your sylvan groves and academic shades,

gentlemen, as Mrs. Stanton suggests, and let the Deborahs, the

Huldahs, and the Vashtis come to the front, and let us see what

we can do toward the remedy of your wretched legislation. But

suffrage for women in Utah has accomplished great good. I spent

one week there in close observation. Outside of their religious

convictions, the women are emphatic in condemnation of wrong.

Their votes banished the liquor saloon. I saw no drunkenness

anywhere; the poison of tobacco smoke is not allowed to vitiate

the air of heaven, either on the streets or in public assemblies.

Their court-room was a model of neatness and good order. Plants

were in the windows and handsome carpets graced the floor. During

my stay, the daughter of a Mormon, the then advocate-general of

the territory, was admitted to the bar by Chief-Justice McKean of

the United States Court, who, in fitting and beautiful language,

welcomed her to the profession as a woman whose knowledge of the

law fitted her to be the peer of any man in his court. She told

me that she detested polygamy, but felt that she could render

greater service to the emancipation of her sex inside of Utah

than out. At midnight I wandered, with one of my own sex, about

the streets to test the assertion that it was as safe for women

then as at mid-day. No bacchanalian shout rent the air; no man

was seen reeling in maudlin imbecility to his home. No guardians

put in an appearance, save the stars above our heads; no sound

awoke the stillness but the purling of the mountain brooks which

washed the streets in cleanliness and beauty. What other city on

this continent can present such a showing? With murder for man

and rapine for woman where man alone is maker and guardian of the

laws, it behooves him to pause ere he launches invectives at the

one result of woman's votes.

Mrs. Gougar, on our Washington platform for the first time,

delighted the audience with her readiness and wit. She has a good

voice, fine presence, and speaks fluently, without notes.

She spoke of the reformatory prison for women in her State, and

said that the statistics showed that eighty-two per cent. of the

women confined there were sent out reformed. Speaking of the

gallantry of men, she cited a case of a man who came to an

Indiana lawyer and desired him to make a will. The following

conversation ensued: "I want you to make this will so that my

wife will have $400 a year; that's enough for any woman." "Is she

the only wife you ever had?" "Yes." "How long have you been

married?" "Forty-two years." "How many children have you had?"

"Eleven." "Did you have all your property before marriage?" "No;

didn't have a cent; I've earned it all." "Has your wife helped

you in any way to earn it?" "Why, yes, I suppose she has; but

then I want to fix my will so she can only have $400 a year; it's

enough." "Well, sir, you will have to move out of the State of

Indiana then, for the law provides for the wife better than that,

and you will have to get another lawyer." It is needless to say

that this lawyer is a staunch champion of woman suffrage, and it

is pleasant to know that there are more such men being educated

by this agitation.

Mrs. Maxwell gave a fine recitation of "The Dying Soldier," at one

of the evening sessions. It was evident by the sparkling eyes of

the Indiana delegation that the ladies had in reserve some pleasant

surprise for the convention, which at last revealed itself in the

person of Judge Orth, a live member of congress from Indiana, who

stood up like a man and avowed his belief in woman suffrage. His

words were few but to the point, and his hearers all knew exactly

where he stood on the question.

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