Sayth _Will_, "What do we know?"

I paused, then made Answer reverentlie, "That _Jesus_ is the Way, the

Truth, and the Life."

"Yes," he exclaymed, clapping his Hands together in a strange Sort of

Passion; "that we _doe_ know, blessed be GOD, and other Foundation can

or ought noe Man to lay than that is layd, which is JESUS CHRIST. But,

_Meg_, is this the Principle of our Church?"

"Yea, verily," I steadfastlie replied.

"Then, how has it beene overlayd," he hurriedlie went on, "with Men's

Inventions! St. _Paul_ speaks of a Sacrifice once offered: we holde

the Host to be a continuall Sacrifice. Holy Writ telleth us, where a

Tree falls it must lie; we are taughte that our Prayers may free Souls

from Purgatorie. The Word sayth, 'By Faith ye are saved;' the Church

sayth, we may be saved by our Works. It is written, 'The Idols he shall

utterly abolish;' we worship Figures of Gold and Silver...." "Hold,

hold," I sayd, "I dare not listen to this.... You are wrong, you know

you are wrong."

"How and where?" he sayth; "onlie tell me. I long to be put righte."

"Our Images are but Symbols of our Saints," I made Answer; "'tis onlie

the Ignorant and Unlearned that worship the mere Wood and Stone."

"But why worship Saints at alle?" persisted _Will_; "where's your

Warrant for it?"

I sayd, "Heaven has warranted it by sundrie and speciall Miracles at

divers Times and Places. I may say to you, _Will_, as _Socrates_ to

_Agathon_, 'You may easilie argue agaynst me, but you cannot argue

agaynst the Truth.'"

"Oh, put me not off with _Plato_," he impatientlie replyed, "refer me

but to Holie Writ."

"How can I," quoth I, "when you have ta'en away my Testament ere I had

half gone through it? 'Tis this Book, I fear me, poor _Will_, hath

unsettled thee. Our Church, indeed, sayth the Unlearned wrest it to

theire Destruction."

"And yet the Apostle sayth," rejoyned _Will_, "that it contayns alle

Things necessarie to our Salvation."

"Doubtlesse it doth, if we knew but where to find them," I replied.

"And how find, unlesse we seeke?" he pursued, "and how know which Road

to take, when we find the Scripture and the Church at Issue?"

"Get some wiser Head to advise us," I rejoyned.

"But an' if the Obstacle remains the same?"

"I cannot suppose that," I somewhat impatientlie returned, "GOD'S Word

and GOD'S Church must agree; 'tis only we that make them at Issue."

"Ah, _Meg_, that is just such an Answer as Father _Francis_ mighte

give--it solves noe Difficultie. If, to alle human Reason, they pull

opposite Ways, by which shall we abide? I know; I am certain. '_Tu,

Domine Jesu, es Justicia mea!_'"

He looked soe rapt, with claspt Hands and upraysed Eyes, as that I

coulde not but look on him and hear him with Solemnitie. At length I

sayd, "If you know and are certayn, you have noe longer anie Doubts for

me to lay, and with your Will, we will holde this Discourse noe longer,

for however moving and however considerable its Subject Matter may be,

it approaches forbidden Ground too nearlie for me to feel it safe, and

I question whether it savoureth not of Heresie. However, _Will_, I most

heartilie pitie you, and will pray for you."

"Do, _Meg_, do," he replyed, "and say nought to any one of this Matter."

"Indeede I shall not, for I think 'twoulde bring you if not me into

Trouble; but, since thou haste soughte my Council, _Will_, receive it

now and take it...."

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