MY DEAR MALTHUS,

... I shall go to London alone, on the 22nd, and of course I shall

continue there until Parliament adjourns for the holidays:--perhaps you

may have occasion to visit town during that time, if so, I shall have a

bed at your service, and such fare as can be furnished by my factotum

in Brook Street.

I am glad that Mr. Whishaw has expressed satisfaction with his very

short visit here. I was very much pleased with his company--no one could

be more agreeable, nor more disposed to be satisfied with everything

about him. We had many conversations on the subject of Parliamentary

Reform, and I was glad to find that our sentiments accorded much more

than I had previously imagined. I should be quite contented with such a

reform as Mr. Whishaw was willing to grant us. I am certainly not more

inclined than I was before to Radicalism[205], after witnessing the

proceedings of Hunt, Watson, and Co., if by Radicalism is meant

Universal Suffrage. I fear, however, that I should not think the

moderate reform, which you are willing to accede to, a sufficient

security for good government. Your scheme of reform, if I recollect

right, is as much too moderate as the universal suffrage plan is too

violent: something between these would give me satisfaction. Do you

think that any great number of the people can really be deluded with the

idea that any change in the representation would completely relieve them

from their distresses? There may be a few wicked persons who would be

glad of a revolution, with no other view but to appropriate to

themselves the property of others, but this object must be confined to a

very limited number, and I cannot think so meanly of the understandings

of those who are well disposed, as to suppose that they sincerely

believe a reform in Parliament would give them work, or relieve the

country from the payment of the load of taxes with which we are now

burthened; neither do I observe in the speeches which are addressed to

the mob any such extravagant expectations held out to them. If there

were I am sure they know better than to believe the speakers who make

such delusive promises. I expect that we shall have a very stormy

session of Parliament.

With respect to my calculations, I have only this to say in defence of

them, that I never brought them forward for any practical use, but

merely to elucidate a principle. It is no answer to my theory to say

that 'it is scarcely possible that all my calculations should not be

necessarily and fundamentally erroneous,' for that I do not deny; but

still it is true that the proportion of produce in agriculture or

manufactures, retained by the capitalist who sets the labourers to work,

will depend on the quantity of labour necessary to provide for the

maintenance and support of the labourers.

You ask me 'whether, when land is thrown out of cultivation from the

importation of foreign corn, I consider the new rate of profits as

determined by the state of the land, or the stationary prices of

manufactured and mercantile products compared with the fall of wages.'

You have correctly anticipated my answer. 'Capital will,' I think, 'be

withdrawn from the land till the last capital yields the profit obtained

(by the fall of wages) in manufactures, on the supposition of the price

of such manufactures remaining stationary.[']

I am glad to hear that your book will be so soon in the press, but I

regret that the most important part of the conclusions from the

principles which you endeavour to elucidate, will not be included in it,

I mean taxation. In a letter which I have lately received from

Turner[206], he is full of regret that the important subject of taxation

receives so little attention from Political Economists;--at this time he

thinks it peculiarly important, and I cannot but agree with him. As soon

as you have launched your present work, I hope you will immediately

prepare to give us your thoughts on a subject in which [we] are all

practically interested.

I have received a letter also very lately from M'Culloch, he has been

writing an article on Exchanges for the Ency. Brit., which is very well

done, I think; although I cannot agree with one or two of his

definitions.

I finished in my hasty way the article I had undertaken to do on the

Sinking Fund, and then became so disgusted with it, that I was glad to

get rid of it. I have given so many injunctions not to regard my

supposed feelings in deciding whether it shall or shall not be

published, that I much doubt whether it will ever see the light....

Ever yours,

D. RICARDO.

NOTE.--The gap between the above letter (of 9th Nov. 1819) and the

following (of 4th May, 1820) may be filled up by a letter of

Ricardo to J. B. Say, dated from London, 11th January, 1820

(Oeuvres Diverses, p. 414). After thanking him for a present

(which appears from Say's reply to have been a French translation

of his 'Pol. Econ. and Taxation') and a letter, he goes on to say:

'I remember hearing you tell me when I saw you in Paris that in

each successive edition of our respective works our opinions would

approximate to each other more and more, and I am convinced that

the truth of the remark will be demonstrated.' Our differences (he

goes on) are becoming rather verbal than substantial. Your chapter

on Value has in my opinion gained considerably. You misrepresent

me, however, on that subject when you say I consider the _value_ of

labour to determine the value of commodities; I hold, on the

contrary, that it is not the value, but 'the _comparative quantity

of labour_ necessary to production which regulates the relative

value of the commodities produced.' Also in regard to Rent,

Profits, and Taxation, you do not observe that my reasoning

proceeds on the assumption that there is in every country 'a land

which yields no rent, _or_ there is a capital employed on the land

with a view to profit merely, and paying no rent for it.' [See

'Pol. Ec. and Tax.' (McC.'s ed.), ch. xii. p. 107.] The latter you

pass over without answer. I forward you the 2nd edition of my

book, which 'has nothing new in it, as I have not had the courage

to recast it.' He concludes by saying: 'Political Economy is

gaining ground. Sounder principles are now brought forward. Your

treatise is rightly in the first rank of authorities. The debates

in parliament last session were satisfactory to the friends of the

science. The true principles of currency are at last recognised. I

think that on that point we shall not again go astray. Jeremy

Bentham and Mill are well; I saw them a short time ago.'

Say answers (2nd March, 1820) that their controversy would

certainly end in agreement, if it were not cut short by death, as a

recent fit of apoplexy had made him think probable. He then briefly

defends himself against Ricardo's criticisms. How can you (he says)

determine the quantity and quality of the labour except by the

price paid to obtain it? As to the two parts of your proposition on

Rent, I see no reason for disagreeing with the second when I differ

from the first, and I think (with you) that taxation in the second

case will be shifted to the consumers.

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