Miss DOUTHIT. Side seat.
Mr. BALL. Oh, it is a side seat? Was that side seat so that you were
facing the motorman?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Uh-huh.
Mr. BALL. When Oswald got on, you then weren't facing him, were you?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. No; but I saw that it was him.
Mr. BALL. How close did he pass to you as he boarded the bus?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Just in front of me. Just like this [indicating].
Mr. BALL. Just a matter of a foot or two?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Uh-huh.
Mr. BALL. When he got on the bus, did he say anything to the motorman?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Oh, the motorman? I think--I don't know. I don't know.
Mr. BALL. Where did he sit?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. He sat about halfway back down.
Mr. BALL. On what side?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. On the same side I was on.
Mr. BALL. Same side? Did you look at him?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Did he look at you as he went by? Did he look at you?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. I don't know. I didn't look at him. That is--I was
just--he looked so bad in his face, and his face was so distorted.
Mr. BALL. Did he have a hat on?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. No.
Mr. BALL. Now, what color shirt did he have on?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. He had a brown shirt.
Mr. BALL. And unraveled?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Hole in his sleeve right here [indicating].
Mr. BALL. Which is the elbow of the sleeve? That is, you pointed to the
elbow?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Well, it is.
Mr. BALL. And that would be which elbow, right or left elbow?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Right.
Mr. BALL. Did he have anything on. Was the shirt open or was it
buttoned?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Yes; all the buttons torn off.
Mr. BALL. What did he have on underneath that?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. I don't know.
Mr. BALL. Do you know the color of any undershirt he had on?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. No.
Mr. BALL. Notice the color of his pants?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Yes, they were gray, and they were all ragged in here
[indicating].
Mr. BALL. Around where?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. At the seam.
Mr. BALL. At the waist?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. At the waist, uh-huh.
Mr. BALL. Was the shirt tucked beneath the belt in his pants, or
outside the belt?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. No; he had it in.
Mr. BALL. Had it tucked in?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. No; it was tucked in.
Mr. BALL. So, that the belt of the pants was outside the shirt?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Yes; uh-huh.
Mr. BALL. Now, you say the motorman said something?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Motorman said, "Well, the President has been shot," and
I say--so, and the woman over--we all got to talking about four of us
sitting around talking, and Oswald was sitting back there, and one of
them said, "Hope they don't shoot us," and I said, "I don't believe
that--it is--I don't believe it. Somebody just said that."
And it was too crowded, you see, and Oswald had got off.
Mr. BALL. How far had he been on the bus before he got off? Until the
time he got on until the time he got off?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. About three or four blocks.
Mr. BALL. Did he say anything to the motorman when he got off?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. They say he did, but I don't remember him saying anything.
Mr. BALL. Did you ever see the motorman give him a transfer?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. No; I didn't pay any attention but I believe he did.
Mr. BALL. Well, what do you mean he--you believe he did? Did you
remember seeing him get on or are you telling me something you read in
the newspapers?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. No; I don't remember. I don't remember.
Mr. BALL. Did you pay any attention at that time as to whether he did,
or did not get a transfer?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. I didn't pay any attention to him.
Mr. BALL. Well, did you look at him as he got off the bus?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. No; I sure didn't. I didn't want to know him.
Mr. BALL. Well, you think you got enough of a glimpse of him to be able
to recognize him?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Oh, yes.
Mr. BALL. You think you might be mistaken?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Oh, no.
Mr. BALL. You didn't look very carefully, did you?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. No; I just glanced at him, and then looked the other way
and I hoped he didn't see me.
Mr. BALL. Now, are there two exits from the bus?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Uh-huh.
Mr. BALL. The middle of the bus, and front of the bus?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Uh-huh.
Mr. BALL. Which exit did he leave?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Front.
Mrs. BALL. By the motorman?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Uh-huh, by the motorman.
Mr. BALL. Did anybody else get off at that time when he got off?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. No, not then, but there was a lady sitting right across,
she wanted to go to the train station.
Mr. BALL. To the what station?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Train station, and she was worried about trying to get
off, you know, trying to get there, and then we were hearing her,
and I said, "Well, why don't you walk over there. It's just a little
ways." Because the crowd was so bad we still didn't know the President
had been killed, and finally she got off, but I think it was--it was
before--I mean after Oswald did.
Mr. BALL. Did she ask for a transfer?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Yes; she had the man give her one, because she caught the
bus before she got to the train station.
Mr. BALL. How do you know that?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Well, I saw her.
Mr. BALL. You saw her catch another bus?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. She got on when we did. She rode a block.
Mr. BALL. Did anybody get off when the lady got off? Anybody that was
going to the train station?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. No.
Mr. BALL. Was there traffic? Was the traffic heavy?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Oh, it was awful in the city, and then they had roped off
that around where the President was killed, shot, and we were the first
car that come around there, and then all of us were talking about the
man, and we were looking up to see where he was shot and looking--and
then they had one man and taking him, already got him in jail, and we
got--"Well, I am glad they found him."
Mr. BALL. You were looking up at where?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. At where the boy was shot.
Mr. BALL. You mean the Texas Book Depository?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Yes, uh-huh.
Mr. BALL. School Book Depository?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Uh-huh, because we were right four blocks from there, you
see.
Mr. BALL. Can you tell me the location of the bus with reference to a
cross street on Elm where Oswald got off?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. No; I can't, because they have changed that street, so,
they have torn down things and I don't go to town very much now and so
I don't----
Mr. BALL. Was it in the middle of the block, or at a regular bus stop?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Well, they said it was.
Mr. BALL. I want to know what you remember.
Mrs. BLEDSOE. No; I don't remember.
Mr. BALL. Do you remember whether it was a regular bus stop or not?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. No; I didn't pay any attention.
Mr. BALL. Did Oswald get on at a regular bus stop?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. I didn't pay any particular attention to him.
Mr. BALL. Do you remember anyone knocking on the door, and as a result,
the motorman opened the front door?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. No.
Mr. BALL. You don't remember that?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. I don't remember.
Mr. BALL. You are not able to say whether Oswald got on at a regular
bus stop, or at a point between blocks?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. No.
Mr. BALL. And you are not able to tell us whether he got off at regular
bus stops, or between?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. That's right.
Mr. BALL. Now, had the bus gone as far as Lamar Street, when Oswald got
off?
Mrs. BLEDSOE. Yes. No; I think before we got to Lamar Street.
Mr. BALL. How far?