And she said, "I don't know."

And I said, "I want to find out." I think the President is shot.

There was a motorcycle that was parked on the corner of Houston and Elm

directly in front of the east end of the building, and I paused there

to listen to the report on the police radio, and they said that shots

had been fired which apparently came either from the second floor or

the fourth floor window, and so I panicked, as I was at the only open

window on the fourth floor.

Mr. BELIN. Did they say second floor or second floor from the top?

Miss ADAMS. It said second floor. So then I decided maybe I had better

go back into the building, and going up the stairs----

Mr. BELIN. Now at this time when you went back into the building, were

there any policemen standing in front of the building keeping people

out?

Miss ADAMS. There was an officer on the stairs itself, and he was

prohibiting people from entering the building, that is correct. But I

told him I worked there.

Mr. BELIN. Did he let you come back in?

Miss ADAMS. Yes, sir.

Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do?

Miss ADAMS. Following that, I pushed the button for the passenger

elevator, but the power had been cut off on the elevator, so I took the

stairs to the second floor.

Mr. BELIN. You then went all the way back to the northwest corner of

the building and took the same set of stairs you had previously taken

to come down, or did you take the stairs by the passenger elevator?

Miss ADAMS. By the passenger elevator.

Mr. BELIN. Do those stairs go above floor 2?

Miss ADAMS. No, sir; they didn't.

Mr. BELIN. What did you do when you got to the second floor?

Miss ADAMS. I went into the Texas School Book Depository office and

just listened for a few minutes to the people that were congregating

there, and decided there wasn't anything interesting going on, and went

out and walked around the hall to the freight elevator meaning the one

on the northwest corner.

Mr. BELIN. Would it have been the west or the east? The one nearest the

stairs or the other one?

Miss ADAMS. Yes; the one nearest the stairs.

Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do?

Miss ADAMS. I went into the elevator which was stopped on the second

floor, with two men who were dressed in suit and hats, and I assumed

they were plainclothesmen.

Mr. BELIN. What did you do then?

Miss ADAMS. I tried to get the elevator to go to the fourth floor, but

it wasn't operating, so the gentlemen lifted the elevator gate and we

went out and ran up the stairs to the fourth floor.

Mr. BELIN. Then you went back to the Scott Foresman Company offices?

Miss ADAMS. Yes, sir.

Mr. BELIN. Now trying to reconstruct your actions insofar as the time

sequence, which we haven't done, what is your best estimate of the time

between the time the shots were fired and the time you got back to the

building? How much time elapsed? If you have any estimate. Maybe you

don't have one.

Miss ADAMS. I would estimate not more than 5 minutes elapsed.

Mr. BELIN. Is there any particular reason why you make this estimation?

Miss ADAMS. Yes, sir; going down the stairs toward the back, I was

running. I ran to the railroad tracks. I moved quickly to the front of

the building, paused briefly to talk to someone, listened only to the

report of the windows from which the shot supposedly was fired, and

returned to the building.

Mr. BELIN. How long do you think it was between the time the shots were

fired and the time you left the window to start toward the stairway?

Miss ADAMS. Between 15 and 30 seconds, estimated, approximately.

Mr. BELIN. How long do you think it was, or do you think it took you to

get from the window to the top of the fourth floor stairs?

Miss ADAMS. I don't think I can answer that question accurately,

because the time approximation, without a stopwatch, would be difficult.

Mr. BELIN. How long do you think it took you to get from the window to

the bottom of the stairs on the first floor?

Miss ADAMS. I would say no longer than a minute at the most.

Mr. BELIN. So you think that from the time you left the window on the

fourth floor until the time you got to the stairs at the bottom of the

first floor, was approximately 1 minute?

Miss ADAMS. Yes, approximately.

Mr. BELIN. As I understand your testimony previously, you saw neither

Roy Truly nor any motorcycle police officer at any time?

Miss ADAMS. That's correct.

Mr. BELIN. You heard no one else running down the stairs?

Miss ADAMS. Correct.

Mr. BELIN. When you got to the first floor did you immediately proceed

to this point where you say you encountered Mr. Shelley and Mr.

Lovelady?

Well, you showed me on a diagram of the first floor that there was a

place which was south and somewhat east of the front part of the east

elevator that you encountered Truly and Lovelady?

Miss ADAMS. I saw them there.

Mr. BELIN. I mean; you saw them?

Miss ADAMS. Yes.

Mr. BELIN. Would that have been a matter of seconds after you got to

the bottom of the first floor?

Miss ADAMS. Definitely.

Mr. BELIN. Less than 30 seconds?

Miss ADAMS. Yes.

Mr. BELIN. Do you know, or did you know Lee Harvey Oswald either by

sight or by name?

Miss ADAMS. I didn't know Lee Harvey Oswald, per se. I didn't know his

name. I recognized him after I saw him on television, as having been

with some men, but I had no dealing with him.

Mr. BELIN. By that, you mean having been employed with some men by the

Texas School Book Depository?

Miss ADAMS. That's correct.

Mr. BELIN. During the trip down the stairs on the way down did you ever

encounter Lee Harvey Oswald?

Miss ADAMS. No, sir.

Mr. BELIN. Is there any other information that you can think of that

might be relevant to anything connected with the assassination?

Miss ADAMS. At the time I left the building on the Houston Street dock,

there was an officer standing about 2 yards from the curb, and about

from the curb across the street from the Texas School Depository,

and about 4 yards from the corner of Houston and Elm, and when we

were running out the dock, going around the building, the officer was

standing there, and he didn't encounter us or ask us what we were doing

or where we were going, and I don't know if that is pertinent.

Mr. BELIN. No one stopped you from getting out of the building when you

left?

Miss ADAMS. That's correct.

Mr. BELIN. That is helpful information. Is there any other information

that you have that could be relevant?

Miss ADAMS. There was a man that was standing on the corner of Houston

and Elm asking questions there. He was dressed in a suit and a hat, and

when I encountered Avery Davis going down, we asked who he was, because

he was questioning people as if he were a police officer, and we

noticed him take a colored boy away on a motorcycle, and this man was

asking questions very efficaciously, and we said, "I guess he is maybe

a reporter," and later on on television, there was a man that looked

very similar to him, and he was identified as Ruby.

And on questioning some police officer, they said they had witnesses

to the fact that he was in the Dallas Morning News at the time. And I

don't know whether that is relevant or what.

Mr. BELIN. That is all right, we want to get that information down. Was

this before you got back in the front door of the building that you saw

this?

Miss ADAMS. Yes, sir; while I was standing by the motorcycles.

Mr. BELIN. Is there anything else?

Miss ADAMS. That is all, I believe.

Mr. BELIN. Miss Adams, you have the opportunity if you would like, to

read this deposition and sign it before it goes to Washington, or you

can waive the signing of it and just let the court reporter send it

directly to us. Do you have any preference?

Miss ADAMS. I think I will let you use your own discretion.

Mr. BELIN. It doesn't make any difference to us. If it doesn't make any

difference, we can waive it and you won't have to make another trip

down here.

Miss ADAMS. That is all right.

Mr. BELIN. We want to thank you for your cooperation. We know that it

has taken time on your part. Would you also thank your employer?

Miss ADAMS. Yes, sir.

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