Mr. PINKSTON. Well, I----

Mr. BALL. Anyway, you were asked to come over here by Mr. Shanklin and

he advised you that your deposition would be taken at that time?

Mr. PINKSTON. Yes.

Mr. BALL. The deposition taken in the course of an investigation by

the Commission to investigate the facts concerning the circumstances

surrounding the assassination of President Kennedy, and I am a staff

officer. My name is Joseph A. Ball. I am authorized to administer the

oath to you and to ask you certain questions concerning some matters

which you do have knowledge of.

Mr. PINKSTON. Yes, sir.

Mr. BALL. You are willing to testify, are you not?

Mr. PINKSTON. Yes, sir.

Mr. BALL. In the course of your investigation, were you called to the

Texas School Book Depository sometimes around the 2d of December 1963?

Mr. PINKSTON. Yes, sir.

Mr. BALL. And who asked you to come down there?

Mr. PINKSTON. I was instructed by one of my supervisors to conduct an

investigation there on that date.

Mr. BALL. On that date?

Mr. PINKSTON. Yes, sir.

Mr. BALL. Did you see a fellow by the name of Frankie Kaiser?

Mr. PINKSTON. Yes, sir.

Mr. BALL. And Roy Truly?

Mr. PINKSTON. Yes, sir.

Mr. BALL. What did they tell you when you came down there?

Mr. PINKSTON. To the best of my recollection I was there waiting to see

Mr. Truly. He was somewhere else in the building, and I was waiting for

him on the occasion in question. Frankie Kaiser came down the stairs

and said that he had found something on the sixth floor. I didn't--I

then accompanied him back to the sixth floor where he pointed out on

the floor near the entrance to the stair well, a clipboard with some

orders on it, and--pardon me a second, do you want me to testify to

what Kaiser told me, which is hearsay----

Mr. BALL. That is all right, but Kaiser told you that when you were

downstairs, that something--didn't he? When he was--did Kaiser come

downstairs?

Mr. PINKSTON. Yes; Kaiser came downstairs and took me back upstairs

with him and pointed out the clipboard which he had left on the floor.

Mr. BALL. Did he say he had left it there?

Mr. PINKSTON. He had seen it there and did not bother it.

Mr. BALL. I see.

Mr. PINKSTON. He did not put it there.

Mr. BALL. I see. Kaiser told you and you went upstairs and Kaiser

pointed out the clipboard?

Mr. PINKSTON. Yes, sir.

Mr. BALL. First, the location of the clipboard.

Mr. PINKSTON. The clipboard was generally in the northwest corner of

the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository. It was on the

floor behind the books, against the wall of the stair well.

Mr. BALL. There were some book cartons in front of it, were there?

Mr. PINKSTON. Yes.

Mr. BALL. Now, did Frankie Kaiser say something? That is hearsay, but I

would like to hear what it was.

Mr. PINKSTON. He told me this clipboard was the one that he had made,

and had given to Oswald when Oswald went to work at the School Book

Depository.

Mr. BALL. Did you examine the clipboard?

Mr. PINKSTON. I did, sir.

Mr. BALL. Did it have anybody's name on it?

Mr. PINKSTON. It had quite a bit of scribbling on it, and I

believe--well, I am not in a position to say right now exactly what it

had on it other than some orders.

Mr. BALL. It did have some orders on it?

Mr. PINKSTON. Yes, sir.

Mr. BALL. And did you examine the orders?

Mr. PINKSTON. Yes, sir.

Mr. BALL. Can you tell me the date of the orders and the general

description of the orders?

Mr. PINKSTON. Three orders on this clipboard. Each order was dated

November 22d. The first was an order from Mrs. Hazel Carroll of the

Reading Clinic, SMU, for one Parliamentary Procedure at $1.40. Was

published by Scott, Foresman & Co.

And this invoice bore No. 2454. The second one was an order from Dallas

Independent School District from Mr. M. J. Morton, purchasing agent, at

the School Administration Building, 3700 Ross Avenue, Dallas, Tex., for

10 ERS, Basic Reading Skills, for high schools, revised, at $1.12, or

total of $11.20. Published by Scott, Foresman & Co.

The Invoice was No. 6057.

The third order was an order to be sent to Mr. M. K. Baker, Junior High

School, Reynosa, New Mex., for one TE Basic Reading Skills. J. H. S.

use. No charge. Sent at the request of Miss Mary Williams. Publisher;

Scott, Foresman & Co., invoice 8291.

Each of these orders, as I say, were dated November 22, 1963.

Mr. BALL. What did you do when you--with the orders after you made

these notations?

Mr. PINKSTON. I turned them over to Mr. Truly. He desired to fill the

orders.

Mr. BALL. What did you do with the clipboard?

Mr. PINKSTON. I returned the clipboard to my office and made an exhibit

of it, as I recall.

Mr. BALL. Is it still an exhibit? It is an FBI exhibit?

Mr. PINKSTON. I believe so.

Mr. BALL. In the possession of the FBI?

Mr. PINKSTON. I haven't seen it since then.

Mr. BALL. Will you try to determine if you still have that as an

exhibit in your office, or in Washington?

Mr. PINKSTON. Yes.

Mr. BALL. All right.

Now, this will be written up and will be submitted to you for your

signature, or you can waive your signature.

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