Mr. BALL. Mr. who?
Mr. SHELLEY. Pinkston of the FBI.
Mr. BALL. Did he come out and get the clipboard?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes; he got it.
Mr. BALL. But Frankie Kaiser pointed it out to you, did he?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. And you called the FBI and pointed it out to him?
Mr. SHELLEY. He was down there at the time and I told him about it and
he and Frankie and I went up and got it.
Mr. BALL. Do you know what date?
Mr. SHELLEY. No, sir; that, I sure couldn't tell you. It was the
following week though, I am pretty sure.
Mr. BALL. You mean after the 22d, the following, you say, the 22d of
November?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Did you examine that clipboard?
Mr. SHELLEY. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Did you examine it to see whether or not there was on the
clipboard any orders?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Unfilled orders?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes, sir; there were some invoices on it.
Mr. BALL. Were you able to identify those invoices and state to whom
they had been assigned to fill?
Mr. SHELLEY. They were Scott, Foresman invoices.
Mr. BALL. Scott, Foresman invoices?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes, sir; and he filled mostly Scott, Foresman orders.
Mr. BALL. Who is "he"?
Mr. SHELLEY. Oswald.
Mr. BALL. Oswald filled mostly Scott, Foresman orders?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes.
Mr. BALL. That is Foresman [spelling]?
Mr. SHELLEY. Foresman [spelling].
Mr. BALL. Was there any other order filler who filled Scott, Foresman
invoices?
Mr. SHELLEY. Any of the other boys would if they ran out of other
publishers' orders. When I get those orders, I sort them according to
publishers and during rush season like that, usually, have one guy
sticking as close to one publisher as he can because skipping back and
forth you have different codes and everything and it is confusing to
them.
Mr. BALL. So, in the morning would you have assigned all Scott,
Foresman to Oswald on that Friday morning?
Mr. SHELLEY. He already had the orders and was working when I got there.
Mr. BALL. He had?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Who would determine what orders they would get?
Mr. SHELLEY. When we run out of orders they get to one of the boxes and
get orders for Scott, Foresman. He had been trained for Scott, Foresman.
Mr. BALL. Would orders be assigned the day before?
Mr. SHELLEY. No, sir; we don't definitely assign them to anyone. The
boys know what they can fill best and as long as they are putting the
work out----
Mr. BALL. I want to know how a man working on Scott, Foresman--suppose
Oswald came to work on Friday morning, tell me what routine he would
follow, where he would get the orders he was to fill.
Mr. SHELLEY. He would go over to the order desk and get them out of a
box marked Scott, Foresman.
Mr. BALL. They would have Scott, Foresman on it?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Is he the only one that in the morning when he came to work
would get the orders out of the box marked Scott, Foresman?
Mr. SHELLEY. No, sir; if there wasn't any orders in any of the other
boxes any other order filler would take them.
Mr. BALL. Do you know whether or not he was filling Scott, Foresman
orders that day?
Mr. SHELLEY. No, sir; not for sure.
Mr. BALL. Do you know whether anybody else was filling Scott, Foresman
orders that day?
Mr. SHELLEY. I am sure they were; that's our biggest publishers;
there's more of them.
Mr. BALL. Then you believe others besides Oswald were filling Scott,
Foresman orders that day?
Mr. SHELLEY. Probably were.
Mr. BALL. Is there any way you can determine what order filler had that
clipboard?
Mr. SHELLEY. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. On November 22, 1963?
Mr. SHELLEY. No, sir; it's one that looked like the one he had used.
Mr. BALL. It did look like the one he had used?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. There were how many unfilled orders on that clipboard when it
was found?
Mr. SHELLEY. Two or three, best I remember.
Mr. BALL. Did you keep a list of them?
Mr. SHELLEY. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Did anybody make a list of them?
Mr. SHELLEY. Not unless Mr. Pinkston did.
Mr. BALL. Mr. Pinkston of the FBI?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes; he called in about the thing and in a little while he
released it and said go ahead and fill the orders which we did because
they were several days old.
Mr. BALL. You mean those orders that were on that clipboard had never
been filled?
Mr. SHELLEY. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. So you went ahead and filled them?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes.
Mr. BALL. How do you spell his name--Pinkston?
Mr. SHELLEY. I don't know how to spell it. Mr. Pinkston is all I know.
Mr. BALL. Pinkston, okay. I think that's all, Mr. Shelley. Thanks very
much. This will be written up and you can come down and read it and
sign it or we can waive signature; which would you rather do?
Mr. SHELLEY. I suppose it doesn't make any difference. What are the
others doing?
Mr. BALL. Some waived, some insist on reading it; which would you
rather do?
Mr. SHELLEY. I would kind of like to see it for curiosity.
Mr. BALL. Come down and sign it, all right. Where was the clipboard
found?
Mr. SHELLEY. On the sixth floor in the far corner.
Mr. BALL. Which corner?
Mr. SHELLEY. By the stairway.
Mr. BALL. That would be the northwest?
Mr. SHELLEY. Northwest, yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. All right, fine. Thank you very much, Mr. Shelley.