Mr. BELIN. The witness in the car, what did you do?
Mr. HARKNESS. Stayed at the back of the building until I was relieved
by a squad.
Mr. BELIN. So you then went to the back of the building?
Mr. HARKNESS. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. When you were at Inspector Sawyer's car, did you see him
there?
Mr. HARKNESS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Was he at his car?
Mr. HARKNESS. Yes, sir; he was by his car, near his car.
Mr. BELIN. Do you know whether or not he had gone inside the building
yet?
Mr. HARKNESS. No, sir.
Mr. BELIN. You mean you don't know?
Mr. HARKNESS. Don't know whether he had gone in or not. Actually, he
was standing there in front taking information. All the information was
being funneled to Inspector Sawyer.
Mr. BELIN. Did you tell him you had a witness?
Mr. HARKNESS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. In his car?
Mr. HARKNESS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. At that time, had the building been sealed off yet when you
told him that?
Mr. HARKNESS. At that time?
Mr. BELIN. When you told Inspector Sawyer that you had a witness that
said the shot came from the building, up to that particular moment, had
the front part of the building been sealed off yet?
Mr. HARKNESS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. It had already been sealed off?
Mr. HARKNESS. There was two officers with Inspector Sawyer at the front.
Mr. BELIN. Were they stopping people from going in and out?
Mr. HARKNESS. I don't know.
Mr. BELIN. You don't know?
Mr. HARKNESS. No, sir; I don't know that, because I didn't go up and
talk to them.
Mr. BELIN. Did you notice whether or not people were coming in and out
of the building?
Mr. HARKNESS. No. I was interested in getting around to the back of the
building to make sure it was.
Mr. BELIN. Then am I correct that your testimony is that you didn't
notice whether people were coming in and out? Did you notice, or did
you not notice whether people were coming out of the building at that
time?
Mr. HARKNESS. Several officers at the area, and it was a lot of people
around. I don't know whether they were going in or out or not. I
couldn't say that.
Mr. BELIN. Then you went around to the back of the building?
Mr. HARKNESS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Was anyone around in the back when you got there?
Mr. HARKNESS. There were some Secret Service agents there. I didn't get
them identified. They told me they were Secret Service.
Mr. BELIN. Then did you stay around the back of the building?
Mr. HARKNESS. Yes; I stayed at the back until the squad got there.
Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do?
Mr. HARKNESS. I went back to the front, and Inspector Sawyer--helped to
get the crowd back first, and then Inspector Sawyer assigned me to some
freight cars that were leaving out of the yard, to go down and search
all freight cars that were leaving the yard.
Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do?
Mr. HARKNESS. Well, we got a long freight that was in there, and we
pulled some people off of there and took them to the station.
Mr. BELIN. You mean some transients?
Mr. HARKNESS. Tramps and hoboes.
Mr. BELIN. That were on the freight car?
Mr. HARKNESS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do?
Mr. HARKNESS. That was all my assignment, because they shook two long
freights down that were leaving, to my knowledge, in all the area there.
We had several officers working in that area.
Mr. BELIN. Do you know whether or not anyone found any suspicious
people of any kind or nature down there in the railroad yard?
Mr. HARKNESS. Yes, sir. We made some arrests, I put some people in.
Mr. BELIN. Were these what you call hoboes or tramps?
Mr. HARKNESS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Were all those questioned?
Mr. HARKNESS. Yes, sir; they were taken to the station and questioned.
Mr. BELIN. Any guns of any kind found?
Mr. HARKNESS. Not to my knowledge.
Mr. BELIN. I want to go back to this Amos Euins. Do you remember what
he said to you and what you said to him when you first saw him?
Mr. HARKNESS. I went in that crowd up there near the area there, and
asked did anyone see any place where the shots come from, and there was
an unidentified person pointed to him, said this boy here saw it, saw
the shots, where the shots came from, and he told me it was.
Mr. BELIN. Then what did he say?
Mr. HARKNESS. He told me that the shots came from the window under the
ledge.
Mr. BELIN. Of what building?
Mr. HARKNESS. Of the School Book Depository.
Mr. BELIN. Now have you since gone back to that building?
Mr. HARKNESS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Do you know where the ledge is?
Mr. HARKNESS. Yes, sir; let's see, I have been by the place a million
times. The ledge there is the one window where it came from, I believe.
Mr. BELIN. You can't right now definitely state what floor the ledge
would be?