Mr. BREWER. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Now from the time you first heard that something was wrong,
you had taken your motorcycle and gone where?
Mr. BREWER. Sir?
Mr. BELIN. You were on the Stemmons Freeway when you heard that
something was wrong, is that correct?
Mr. BREWER. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Then you went from Stemmons Freeway where?
Mr. BREWER. Up to the Texas School Depository Building.
Mr. BELIN. Did you stop anywhere along the way?
Mr. BREWER. No, sir; the only time that I stopped was when this guy
come up to me and told it to me, and then was gone.
Mr. BELIN. Well, you did stop then and talk to this one individual?
Mr. BREWER. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. Which street were you on when you stopped?
Mr. BREWER. I was proceeding back up Elm Street the wrong way on Elm.
Mr. BELIN. About where were you when this one person talked that said
he saw him pull the weapon in?
Mr. BREWER. I was down there about the triple underpass on Elm.
Mr. BELIN. You mean right under the triple underpass?
Mr. BREWER. Or coming to it.
Mr. BELIN. Well, coming to it?
Mr. BREWER. From the west.
Mr. BELIN. Would you have been on the west side of that?
Mr. BREWER. Yes, right there about that curb.
Mr. BELIN. Before you left Stemmons Freeway, did you look up or around
to see if there was anything suspicious in that area?
Mr. BREWER. We was all looking up in the railroad tracks from the west
side.
Mr. BELIN. Did you see anything at all?
Mr. BREWER. No, sir; we saw some people coming up there, but they
seemed to be up there looking.
Mr. BELIN. You mean you saw people up there searching?
Mr. BREWER. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Did you see anybody running away?
Mr. BREWER. No, sir.
Mr. BELIN. See anyone acting suspiciously by himself?
Mr. BREWER. No, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Then you left that area and came right down the wrong way,
you say, back to retrace your route, is that correct?
Mr. BREWER. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Then somewhere in the vicinity of the railroad underpass,
you were stopped by this one individual that you reported on the radio
log, is that correct?
Mr. BREWER. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember whether this man that you talked to was a
white male or a Negro?
Mr. BREWER. He was a white man, the best of my memory.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember anything else about him?
Mr. BREWER. No, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Did he have any camera or anything?
Mr. BREWER. Not that I recall.
Mr. BELIN. Now after this order to report to the School Book Depository
Building, what did you do?
Mr. BREWER. I went there.
Mr. BELIN. What did you do when you got there?
Mr. BREWER. Went in the building.
Mr. BELIN. Which door?
Mr. BREWER. By the front door.
Mr. BELIN. Had the building been sealed off by the time you got there?
Mr. BREWER. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Were officers blocking everyone that was coming in, to
prohibit them from coming in and going out?
Mr. BREWER. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. What did you do when you got there?
Mr. BREWER. I went inside the building.
Mr. BELIN. Where did you go?
Mr. BREWER. I proceeded to assist in the floor to floor search of the
building with some other officers.
Mr. BELIN. What floor did you start on?
Mr. BREWER. On the bottom floor.
Mr. BELIN. You went up to the top?
Mr. BREWER. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. How far up did you go?
Mr. BREWER. We searched all of it before we quit.
Mr. BELIN. Well, were you ever on the 6th floor?
Mr. BREWER. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. Were you on the sixth floor when you found anything there?
Mr. BREWER. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. What did you find?
Mr. BREWER. I was on the sixth floor when they found those spent cases
from the rifle.
Mr. BELIN. Where were you when they found them?
Mr. BREWER. I don't know exactly. I was on the floor searching around
in among some boxes that were stacked up there.
Mr. BELIN. Hear anyone say anything about cartridge cases or anything?
Mr. BREWER. Yes, sir. Whoever found them turned around and let it be
known to one of the supervisor officers that he had found them, or that
they had been found over there.
Mr. BELIN. What did you do when you heard the news?
Mr. BREWER. I continued searching.
Mr. BELIN. Did you go and take a look at the cartridge cases?
Mr. BREWER. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. How many cartridge cases did you see?
Mr. BREWER. Three.
Mr. BELIN. Where were they?
Mr. BREWER. They were there under, by the window.
Mr. BELIN. What window?
Mr. BREWER. In the southeast corner of the building, facing south.
Mr. BELIN. See anything else there at the time by the window?
Mr. BREWER. Paper lunch sack and some chicken bones or partially eaten
piece of chicken, or a piece of chicken.
Mr. BELIN. Anything else?
Mr. BREWER. A drink bottle.
Mr. BELIN. What bottle?
Mr. BREWER. A cold drink bottle, soda pop bottle.
Mr. BELIN. Anything else?
Mr. BREWER. In relation to what?
Mr. BELIN. Did you see anything else in the southeast corner?
Mr. BREWER. There was a paper, relatively long paper sack there.
Mr. BELIN. Where was that?
Mr. BREWER. It was there in the southeast corner.
Mr. BELIN. Under the window?
Mr. BREWER. No, sir. To the left of it. To the east of it.
Mr. BELIN. To the left as you faced the window?
Mr. BREWER. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Did the window come right up next to the corner there, do
you remember?
Mr. BREWER. No, sir; it didn't come up next to the corner. It was
offset.
Mr. BELIN. Can you remember how far at all, or not?
Mr. BREWER. No, sir; I don't remember the exact distance of it.
Mr. BELIN. Was any part of the paper sack under the window, if you
remember or not?
That long paper sack?
Mr. BREWER. No, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember anything about what the sack looked like?
Mr. BREWER. Well, it was assumed at the time that it was the sack that
the rifle was wrapped up in when it was brought into the building, and
it appeared that it could have been used for that.
Mr. BELIN. Well, you mean you assumed that before you found the rifle?
Mr. BREWER. Yes, sir; I suppose. That was discussed.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember anything else that was found around there or
not?
Mr. BREWER. Not in that particular area.
Mr. BELIN. Anything found anywhere else in the sixth floor?
Mr. BREWER. Yes, sir. The rifle was found on the sixth floor.
Mr. BELIN. Where was that?
Mr. BREWER. It was found in a northwest corner under some, in between
some boxes that were stacked up there at the head of the stairs.
Mr. BELIN. Were you there when they found the rifle?
Mr. BREWER. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. How far away from the area were you when you found the
rifle, if you remember?
Mr. BREWER. Several feet from it. I don't remember exactly.
Mr. BELIN. Did you see the rifle?
Mr. BREWER. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Where was it located?
Mr. BREWER. It was laying down low on the door or on the floor down
between some, a very narrow space where boxes were stacked up there,
and there was a space between the boxes, and it was laying down there
in between it, like it had been stuck in there hurriedly, and possibly
just before whoever laid it there went down the stairs.
Mr. BELIN. Anything else you found of significance in the building at
all or not?
Mr. BREWER. Not that I recall.
Mr. BELIN. What did you do the rest of the afternoon?
Mr. BREWER. Well, we proceeded to search the building after that,
and we spent, I don't know the exact amount of time we spent in the
building after that, but when Lieutenant Jack Revill was satisfied, we
went back downstairs and I went back out to my motorcycle and to my
immediate superior officer and received another assignment.
Mr. BELIN. Did you have anything to do with the investigation of the
assassination that day?
Mr. BREWER. No, sir.
Mr. BELIN. What about on Saturday?
Mr. BREWER. No, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Sunday?
Mr. BREWER. No, sir. My primary job was traffic control.
Mr. BELIN. Did you have anything to do with the investigation of
Officer Tippit's murder?
Mr. BREWER. No, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Is there anything that you can think of that might in any
way be relevant to the assassination of the President or the shooting
of Officer Tippit?
Mr. BREWER. Not that I can think of; no, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Sir, I want to thank you very much for coming on down here.
You have an opportunity, if you like, to come back and read the
deposition and sign it, or else you can waive the signing of it and
have it sent directly to Washington, whichever you prefer.
Mr. BREWER. It don't matter. Whichever you prefer.
Mr. BELIN. We have no preference.
Mr. BREWER. Okay, you send it on.
Mr. BELIN. Do you want to waive the signing of it?
Mr. BREWER. Yes, sir.