Mr. HARGIS. Well----

Mr. STERN. Front, or rear?

Mr. HARGIS. Oh. Rear.

Mr. STERN. Riding next to Mrs. Kennedy?

Mr. HARGIS. Right.

Mr. STERN. Will you describe what occurred or what you observed as the

limousine turned into Elm Street?

Mr. HARGIS. Well, at the time that the limousine turned left on Elm

Street I was staying pretty well right up with the car. Sometimes on

Elm we couldn't get right up next to it on account of the crowd, but

the crowd was thinning out down here at the triple underpass, so, I

was next to Mrs. Kennedy when I heard the first shot, and at that time

the President bent over, and Governor Connally turned around. He was

sitting directly in front of him, and a real shocked and surprised

expression on his face.

Mr. STERN. On Governor Connally's?

Mr. HARGIS. Yes; that is why I thought Governor Connally had been shot

first, but it looked like the President was bending over to hear what

he had to say, and I thought to myself then that Governor Connally,

the Governor had been hit, and then as the President raised back up

like that (indicating) the shot that killed him hit him. I don't know

whether it was the second or the third shot. Everything happened so

fast.

Mr. STERN. But, you cannot now recall more than two shots?

Mr. HARGIS. That is all that I can recall remembering. Of course,

everything was moving so fast at the time that there could have been 30

more shots that I probably never would have noticed them.

Mr. STERN. Did something happen to you, personally in connection with

the shot you have just described?

Mr. HARGIS. You mean about the blood hitting me?

Mr. STERN. Yes.

Mr. HARGIS. Yes; when President Kennedy straightened back up in the

car the bullet him in the head, the one that killed him and it seemed

like his head exploded, and I was splattered with blood and brain, and

kind of a bloody water. It wasn't really blood. And at that time the

Presidential car slowed down. I heard somebody say, "Get going," or

"get going,"----

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