Mr. CRAWFORD. And Record.
Mr. BALL. And Record, and then you walked which direction?
Mr. CRAWFORD. Well, actually, the courthouse is--I suppose our office
would be considered on Elm and Houston.
Mr. BALL. When you left your office, you walked on what street?
Mr. CRAWFORD. Walked on Elm to Houston, rather than Record.
Mr. BALL. In other words, you walked west on Elm towards Houston?
Mr. CRAWFORD. Right.
Mr. BALL. To what corner of Elm and Houston?
Mr. CRAWFORD. That would be the corner of the courthouse. Do you want
the direction of the intersection?
Mr. BALL. Yes, where was it? Southeast, northwest corner of Elm?
Mr. CRAWFORD. It's the northwest corner of the courthouse.
Mr. BALL. The northwest corner of the courthouse--it's the southeast
corner of the intersection?
Mr. CRAWFORD. Southeast corner of the intersection.
Mr. BALL. Where were you when you watched the President pass?
Mr. CRAWFORD. I was at that location.
Mr. BALL. Which corner of the intersection?
Mr. CRAWFORD. The southeast corner of the intersection.
Mr. BALL. Where was the Texas School Book Depository Building from
where you were standing?
Mr. CRAWFORD. It would be on the northwest corner of the intersection.
Mr. BALL. Directly across?
Mr. CRAWFORD. Yes; right.
Mr. BALL. Did you have a good view at that point of the south exposure
of the Texas School Book Depository?
Mr. CRAWFORD. I had a very good angle.
Mr. BALL. Did you see the President's car pass?
Mr. CRAWFORD. I did.
Mr. BALL. And just tell me in your own words what you observed after
that?
Mr. CRAWFORD. As I observed the parade, I believe there was a car
leading the President's car, followed by the President's car and
followed, I suppose, by the Vice President's car and, in turn, by the
Secret Service in a yellow closed sedan. The doors of the sedan were
open. It was after the Secret Service sedan had gone around the corner
that I heard the first report and at that time I thought it was a
backfire of a car but, in analyzing the situation, it could not have
been a backfire of a car because it would have had to have been the
President's car or some car in the cavalcade there. The second shot
followed some seconds, a little time elapsed after the first one, and
followed very quickly by the third one. I could not see the President's
car----
Mr. BALL. At that time?
Mr. CRAWFORD. That's right; I couldn't even see the Secret Service
car, at least I wasn't looking for it. As the report from the third
shot sounded, I looked up. I had previously looked around to see if
there was somebody shooting firecrackers to see if I could see a puff
of smoke, and after I decided it wasn't a backfire from an automobile
and as the third report was sounded, I looked up and from the far east
corner of the sixth floor I saw a movement in the only window that was
open on that floor. It was an indistinct movement. It was just barely a
glimpse.
Mr. BALL. Which window?