TESTIMONY OF DR. DON TEEL CURTIS

The testimony of Dr. Don Teel Curtis was taken at 9:25 a.m., on March

24, 1964, at Parkland Memorial Hospital, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Arlen

Specter, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Mr. SPECTER. Let the record show that present are Dr. Don Curtis and

the court reporter, in connection with the deposition proceeding

being conducted by the President's Commission on the Assassination

of President Kennedy, which is inquiring into all facets of the

assassination, including the medical treatment performed for President

Kennedy.

Dr. Don Curtis is appearing here this morning in response to a letter

requesting him to testify concerning his knowledge of that medical

treatment of President Kennedy. With that preliminary statement of the

general objective of the Commission and the specific objective of this

deposition proceeding, Dr. Curtis, will you rise and raise your right

hand, please?

Do you solemnly swear the testimony you give before this Presidential

Commission in this deposition proceeding will be the truth, the whole

truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Dr. CURTIS. I do.

Mr. SPECTER. Would you state your full name for the record, please?

Dr. CURTIS. Dr. Don Teel, T-e-e-l (spelling) Curtis.

Mr. SPECTER. And what is your occupation or profession?

Dr. CURTIS. Oral surgeon.

Mr. SPECTER. Would you outline briefly your educational background?

Dr. CURTIS. I attended my freshman year at Boulder, Colo., Colorado

University, 2 subsequent years of undergraduate work at Texas

University, 4 years at Baylor Dental College, and I have been interning

here for a year and a half.

Mr. SPECTER. What year did you graduate from Baylor Dental College?

Dr. CURTIS. 1962.

Mr. SPECTER. What is your age at the present time?

Dr. CURTIS. Twenty-six.

Mr. SPECTER. And what has your work consisted of here at Parkland

Hospital?

Dr. CURTIS. I have functioned as an intern in oral surgery and also now

am a resident this year in oral surgery.

Mr. SPECTER. Are you a licensed dentist?

Dr. CURTIS. Yes.

Mr. SPECTER. And when did you obtain that status in the State of Texas?

Dr. CURTIS. I think in August of 1962.

Mr. SPECTER. Did you have occasion to assist in the medical treatment

of President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963?

Dr. CURTIS. Yes.

Mr. SPECTER. Would you outline briefly the circumstances surrounding

your call or your joining in the participation in that medical effort?

Dr. CURTIS. I was--do you want me to tell from the time that I got to

the emergency room?

Mr. SPECTER. Yes--how did you happen to get to the emergency room?

Dr. CURTIS. I was in our out-patient clinic and saw the President's

car, or I saw that it had arrived at the emergency room entrance, and

I went over there as a matter of curiosity and was directed into the

emergency room and there was directed by a policeman into the room

where President Kennedy was.

Mr. SPECTER. About what time was that?

Dr. CURTIS. I don't know--it was shortly after he arrived.

Mr. SPECTER. Approximately how long after he arrived?

Dr. CURTIS. I would say it was within--I would say within a minute

after he arrived at the trauma room, although there's no way for me to

know that.

Mr. SPECTER. Who was present in the trauma room at that time?

Dr. CURTIS. Dr. Carrico and a nurse, I believe.

Mr. SPECTER. Do you know the identity of the nurse?

Dr. CURTIS. No.

Mr. SPECTER. What did you observe, if anything, as to the condition of

President Kennedy at that time?

Dr. CURTIS. I observed that he was in a supine position, with his head

extended, and I couldn't see on my arrival--I couldn't see the nature

of the wounds, however, Dr. Carrico was standing at the patient's head.

Dr. Carrico had just placed an endotracheal tube and I participated in

applying the Bird machine respirator into the endotracheal tube for

artificial respiration.

Mr. SPECTER. How does it happen that you would participate to that

effect in view of the fact that you are an oral surgeon?

Dr. CURTIS. We participate in the emergency room on traumatic injuries

of both the face and the entire patient, because the face is hooked

onto a patient. We have a tour through anesthesia. We spend time on

general anesthesia where we learn management of the patient's airway

which makes us, I would say, qualified, for airway management. In our

training here at the hospital we many, many times have patients on

intravenous infusion and so we are well acquainted with the procedures

attendant with the management of I.V. fluids.

Mr. SPECTER. Is there always someone from oral surgery available at the

trauma area?

Dr. CURTIS. One of the oral surgeons is on call at the emergency room

at all times and we try to stay within a very short distance from the

emergency room. We see many patients in the emergency room area.

Mr. SPECTER. Is that for the purpose of rendering aid for someone who

would be injured in a way which would call for an oral surgeon?

Dr. CURTIS. Yes--maxillofacial injuries.

Mr. SPECTER. And in addition, you help out in a general way when there

is an emergency situation?

Dr. CURTIS. Yes.

Mr. SPECTER. Now, was there anything in President Kennedy's condition

which called for the application of your specific specialty?

Dr. CURTIS. No; there wasn't.

Mr. SPECTER. So, you aided in a general way in the treatment of him as

an emergency case?

Dr. CURTIS. Yes.

Mr. SPECTER. Now, would you continue to tell me what you have observed

with respect to his condition when you first saw him, including what

you noted, if anything, with respect to his respiration.

Dr. CURTIS. It is very difficult to say whether or not the President

was making a respiratory effort, but I'm not sure that he wasn't making

a respiratory effort.

Mr. SPECTER. Do you think that he was making a respiratory effort?

Dr. CURTIS. He could have been, and that's as far as I can go on it.

Mr. SPECTER. Did you observe movements of the chest?

Dr. CURTIS. I thought I did.

Mr. SPECTER. What was his coloring?

Dr. CURTIS. He was pink--he wasn't cyanotic when I saw him.

Mr. SPECTER. And will you explain in lay terms what cyanotic means for

the record at this point?

Dr. CURTIS. When the hemoglobin of the blood is reduced, it turns a

blue color and the patient becomes blue, when a certain percentage of

the hemoglobin is reduced. That's not a lay term either, but when the

patient is in oxygen need or oxygen want, cyanosis would be apparent.

Mr. SPECTER. And how does that manifest itself in the patient?

Dr. CURTIS. The patient will be a blue, gray, ashen color.

Mr. SPECTER. What action was Dr. Carrico taking upon your arrival?

Dr. CURTIS. He had placed an endotracheal tube in the President's

trachea for artificial respiration.

Mr. SPECTER. Was he doing anything else?

Dr. CURTIS. Yes; he was applying the Bird machine.

Mr. SPECTER. Will you describe what other steps he was taking, if any?

Dr. CURTIS. He directed that a tracheotomy setup be brought to the

emergency room, and I think it was Dr. Carrico directed me to start the

I.V. fluids.

Mr. SPECTER. And what, if anything, did you do in response to his

direction?

Dr. CURTIS. I assisted him in fitting the tube from the Bird machine

to the endotracheal tube and I assisted in removing some of the

President's clothes and did the cutdown on his leg.

Mr. SPECTER. And what, specifically, did you do pursuant to the cutdown

on his leg?

Dr. CURTIS. A small incision was made on the ankle and a vein is

bluntly dissected free, small holes placed in the vein and a venous

catheter is placed in this vein and a purse string ligature is then

tied around the catheter at one end, and then the wound was closed with

sutures.

Mr. SPECTER. Now, did you do anything else to the President following

that operative procedure?

Dr. CURTIS. Then, the initial cutdown that I started was ineffective

and infiltrated into the tissues. I think possibly I cut the knot

too close of the purse string ligature, so I was getting ready to do

another one and it was decided since fluids were going in the other

leg, it wouldn't be necessary.

Mr. SPECTER. What other action did you take, if any, in the treatment

of the President?

Dr. CURTIS. That's all.

Mr. SPECTER. Did you remain in the trauma room No. 1?

Dr. CURTIS. I did until he was pronounced dead.

Mr. SPECTER. What action was taken by anyone else in the trauma room

while you were there?

Dr. CURTIS. My attention was focused on what I was doing, so I wasn't

aware--I knew that a cutdown was being performed and that is about all

I could see. I mean, I knew that a tracheotomy was being performed.

Mr. SPECTER. What other doctors were present there at that time?

Dr. CURTIS. I know that Dr. Perry was there and I know Dr. Baxter was

there, and then I recall Dr. Jenkins from the Anesthesia Department,

and Dr. Seldin, Dr. Crenshaw, and that's about all the doctors--I could

think of others probably, but I can't remember now.

Mr. SPECTER. Can you identify any other nurses who were there?

Dr. CURTIS. No; I can't--I wasn't paying attention to the nurses.

Mr. SPECTER. During the course of your presence near President Kennedy,

did you have any opportunity to observe any wounds on his body?

Dr. CURTIS. After I had completed the cutdown, I went around to the

right side of the patient and saw the head wound.

Mr. SPECTER. And what did you observe there?

Dr. CURTIS. Oh--fragments of bone and a gross injury to the cranial

contents, with copious amounts of hemorrhage.

Mr. SPECTER. Did you observe any other wound on the President?

Dr. CURTIS. No; I didn't. As I said before, I noticed the mass in the

pre-tracheal area.

Mr. SPECTER. And when you say "as you said before," you mean in our

previous discussions prior to going on the record here?

Dr. CURTIS. Yes.

Mr. SPECTER. And will you state now for the record what you did notice

with respect to the tracheal area?

Dr. CURTIS. The President's head was extended or hyperextended and I

noticed that in the suprasternal notch there was a mass that looked

like a hematoma to me, or a blood clot in the tissues.

Mr. SPECTER. How big was that hematoma?

Dr. CURTIS. Oh, I think it was 5 cm. in size.

Mr. SPECTER. What color was it?

Dr. CURTIS. It had no color--there was just skin overlying it.

Mr. SPECTER. What did it appear to be?

Dr. CURTIS. Probably a hematoma.

Mr. SPECTER. Did you observe any perforation or hole in the President's

throat?

Dr. CURTIS. No; I didn't. But that doesn't mean it wasn't there.

Mr. SPECTER. Did you have an opportunity to look closely for it?

Dr. CURTIS. I focused my attention on his neck for an instant, and

that's all.

Mr. SPECTER. Did you hear any discussion among any of the doctors about

an opening on his neck?

Dr. CURTIS. No; I didn't.

Mr. SPECTER. Did you make any written report concerning your activity

on the President?

Dr. CURTIS. No; I didn't.

Mr. SPECTER. Have you any notes or writings of any sort concerning your

work with the President?

Dr. CURTIS. No.

Mr. SPECTER. Have you talked to any representatives of the Federal

Government about your participation in treating President Kennedy

before today?

Dr. CURTIS. No; I haven't.

Mr. SPECTER. Prior to the time that we went on the record here with the

court reporter, did you and I have a very brief conversation concerning

the purpose of the deposition and the general questions which I would

ask you on the record?

Dr. CURTIS. Yes.

Mr. SPECTER. And is the information which you have provided on the

record the same as that which you gave me before the court reporter

started taking notes?

Dr. CURTIS. Yes.

Mr. SPECTER. Do you have anything to add which you think would be

helpful to the Commission in its work?

Dr. CURTIS. No; I don't think so.

Mr. SPECTER. Thank you very much, Dr. Curtis, for coming here today.

Dr. CURTIS. All right.

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