Charlie Van Dyke

*Personal conversation with Charlie Van Dyke*

*713 S. Lawrence street, Mobile, Ala.*

--_Written by Mary A. Poole_

_IT TOOK $50.00 TO PUT UNCLE CHARLIE ON DE FLOOR!_

An old colored man, named Charlie Van Dyke, living at 713 S. Lawrence

street, Mobile, Ala. claims to be 107 years old, but he has no authentic

record of his birth. He told the writer he was born in North Carolina,

and when he was ten years old, Mr. William Martee King, who owned his

mother, "Nellie Drish", moved to Tuscaloosa, Ala., where the King family

remained about a year, moving then from Tuscaloosa down into Dallas

County, near Selma, Ala.

While Mr. and Mrs. King and their family remained in Tuscaloosa,

Charlies mother Nellie Drish met and married William Van Dyke, who

belonged to the Van Dykes, who owned the neighboring plantation.

Charlie assumed his step-father's name, but knew little of him, or of

the Van Dykes to whom his step-father belonged, because, as Charlie

explained to the writer, after the Kings moved down in Dallas County,

(as Charlie always referred to his home in Alabama) and brought his

mother Nellie and her family with them, his stepfather could only visit

them once a year, and that privilege was given him on Christmas Day. He

had to start back the next day, as he had to make the trip to and fro on

horse back.

Uncle Charlie said the Kings owned about a thousand acres in Dallas

County and had about a hundred head of slaves, but with all their riches

they lived in a plain plank house.

He smiled and said, "Now-a-days folks passing such a house, would say

'Colored folks live there.'"

The slave quarters were the regular log wood cabins, said Uncle Charlie,

with space between each row and a little plot of ground to separate each

cabin to itself.

Uncle Charlie said his mother cooked for the white folks, and sometimes

she didn't get down to their cabin but on Sunday afternoon, that he

being the oldest had to look after the younger children, and that he was

never required to do heavy work as he broke his leg when a boy, so the

folks let him just work around the yard and look after his sisters and

brothers and also the other slave children.

Uncle Charlie said Mr. King traveled a lot, went to France once, that

took almost a year and the overseer had full charge and he was mean and

made everybody stand around. He even made the slaves shuck corn on

Sundays, each had their allotted amount to shuck before they could stop.

When the writer asked about church on the plantation, Uncle Charlie

replied: "Church was what they called it but all that preacher talked

about was for us slaves to obey our masters and not to lie and steal.

Nothing about Jesus was ever said, and the overseer stood there to see

the preacher talked as he wanted him to talk."

The only day that Uncle Charlie said they were given any real holiday

was Christmas, everybody got his drink of whiskey on Christmas, and not

another drink until next Christmas, "it sure seemed a long time between

drinks", added Charlie with a smile.

Uncle Charlie said they did let you have a funeral when some one died,

they made the coffin on the plantation and carried it by hand to the

graveyard, singing as they went along. He tried to recall the hymns, but

all he could chant in a sing-song way was,

Last word he said was about Jerusalem

And he traveled along to the grave!

When asked about war days, Uncle Charlie was first on the Confederate

side, then on the Northern side, and he seemed somewhat bewildered about

it all, he said he saw a stockade, as he called it, in Selma, Ala., and

he remembered food stuff being sent to the soldiers, and also recalled

the Yankees coming, and a Captain coming up the road and telling them

the soldiers were coming. Uncle Charlie said the colored folks thought

the Captain had to go back North before they came back, but in a flash

like lightening there they were, hundreds of them, and they scared folks

so bad some of them jumped in the river and tried to swim across and

those that couldn't, they just drowned.

When the writer tried to check up on Uncle Charlie's age, asking him how

old he was when the war started, he replied:

"I dont know but I was a man long afore it all started, lady, and I was

thirty-three years old when I married 'bout a year after the surrender."

When asked why he waited so long to get married, Uncle Charlie said:

"Didn't you know in slavery days they wouldn't alow a man to marry

unless he could split a hundred rails a day?"

The writer smiled and said:

"Now, Uncle Charlie," and then he chuckled, and said:

"Well, I guess the right one didn't come 'long till I met her."

When asked if he had a regular wedding feast, he replied.

"Yes, lady, it took $50.00 to put me on the floor."

Charlie and Theresa had "five head of children", as Uncle Charlie

expressed it, of which three are dead and two living, but he claims his

children do not look after him, but his church folks and friends give

him the helping hand. He is a member of the St. Luke Missionary Baptist

Church, of Mobile.

Uncle Charlie says he has his religion from the foregone prophets, that

he "don't understand this day religion", that he came along when people

were serving Daniel's God, and when people had to be born again, now

they serve a sanctified God and jump from one religion to another.

Uncle Charlie finished the interview by saying, "Lord teach me how to

pray, And teach me to love it woo."

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