Simon Phillips

*Interview with Simon Phillips*

--_J. Morgan Smith_

_EX-SLAVE LEADER RECALLS OLD DAYS_

Simon Phillips, ex-slave, at 90 years is still as clear-thinking as a

young man, and a leader among the oldsters of his race in Birmingham and

Alabama. He has been for the past twenty-three years president of the

union of ex-slaves which is composed of 1,500 Negroes scattered

throughout Alabama. He is the only one of the Birmingham organizers of

the society living today and though one of the oldest of his group, he

shows but few signs of decrepitude. He walks with the aid of a hickory

cane which has been in his possession for almost a half century, and his

memory is not only accurate but vivid. His physical activity is shown by

the fact that he had already spaded his garden and tiny stalks had

pushed themselves above the ground on a plot of earth, covering

approximately seventy-five yards square, on the Spring morning when he

took "a little time off" to talk of the past.

Well does he recall the days when, under Alabama skies in the 1860's, he

curried his master's fine carriage horses; the times old Aunt Hannah

cured him of "achin's" with vegetable and root herbs; the nights he

spent in the slave quarters singing spirituals with his family.

Simon Phillips was one of 300 Negroes belonging to Bryant Watkins, a

planter of Greensboro, Alabama. He was a house man, which means that he

mixed the drinks, opened the carriage doors, brought refreshments on the

porch to guests, saw that the carriage was always in the best of

condition and tended the front lawn. When asked about slave days, he

gets a far-away expression in his eyes; an expression of tranquil joy.

"People," he says, "has the wrong idea of slave days. We was treated

good. My massa never laid a hand on me durin' the whole time I was wid

him. He scolded me once for not bringin' him a drink when I was supposed

to, but he never whup me."

The old slave added that every plantation had a still and there was much

brandy, but he rarely ever saw a drunk man. He says that when the men

felt themselves becoming intoxicated, they would go home and lie down;

now, he says, they go home and fall down.

The plantation on which Simon lived was seven miles long and three miles

wide. When luncheon was served, the Negroes far off in the bottom lands

had their food brought to them by the trash gang (boys and women) while

those in the nearer cotton fields ate in a large mess hall. The food

consisted of turnip greens, meat, peas, crackling bread and syrup, and

plenty of it. "Not since those days," he states, "have I had such good

food."

"What about the marriage situation, Simon?" he was asked. "How did you

go about getting a wife?"

"Well, nigger jus' go to the massa and tell him that there's a gal over

in Cap'n Smith's place that he want for a wife, if she happen to be

there. Then the massa go to Cap'n Smith and offer to buy her. Maybe he

do and maybe he don't. It depend on whether the Cap'n will sell her, and

iffen she a good strong, healthy nigger. Niggers was bought mostly like

hosses. I was too young to have me a wife when I was wid de massa, but I

got me one later on after the war."

[Illustration: _Simon Phillips, Birmingham, Alabama_]

During the War between the States, Simon served as body guard for John

Edward Watkins, son of the plantation owner. Body guards went with their

owners and cleaned the guns, kept the camp in order and did some

cooking. Simon entered the war at the age of fourteen in Joe Wheeler's

51st cavalry. He distinctly recalls the time he stood within ten feet of

the great general while he was making a speech.

Sometimes slaves were parted from their families, because when one

planter bought a Negro from another planter, he did not necessarily buy

his wife or children, or husband, as the case might be. The slaves were

advertised around and put on a block to stand while they were auctioned.

Women invariably brought more than men. He was asked, "about overseers,

Simon. What sort of men were they?"

"Well," he answered, "some was mighty mean. When the massa be away, they

tried to think up things to whup us for. But when the massa around, had

he catch 'em gettin' ready for to beat a slave, he say, 'don't cut no

blood from that Nigger!'"

Born in Hale County in 1847, Simon Phillips stayed with his master until

1886 at which time he went to live in Tuscaloosa to earn 17c a day, but

he says he fared better on it than on three dollars now.

After the war many Negroes stayed with their masters and he remembers

that some of the carpetbaggers came through his plantation and tried to

make the ex-slaves stake off the land, saying that half of it belonged

to them.

"One day," says Simon, "a few niggers was stickin' sticks in the ground

when the massa come up.

"'What you Niggers doin'?' he asked.

"'We is stakin' off de land, massa. The Yankees say half of it is ourn.'

"The massa never got mad. He jus' look calm like.

"'Listen, niggers' he says, 'what's mine is mine, and what's yours is

yours. You are just as free as I and the missus, but don't go foolin'

around my land. I've tried to be a good master to you. I have never been

unfair. Now if you wants to stay, you are welcome to work for me. I'll

pay you one third the crops you raise. But if you wants to go, you sees

the gate.'

"The massa never have no more trouble. Them niggers jus' stays right

there and works. Sometime they loaned the massa money when he was hard

pushed. Most of 'em died on the old grounds. I was the youngest of a

family of sixteen and I has one sister still livin' on the old

plantation. I'm going down to see her next week, 'cause I can never tell

when the Great Master is goin' to call. We's gotta be ready when he

does, and both us is gettin' mighty old. I wanta be sure and see her and

the old place once more."

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