Sir, in showing, as I think I have shown, the absurdity of this cry for

Repeal, I have in a great measure vindicated myself from the charge of

inconsistency which has been brought against me by my honourable friend

the Member for Lincoln. It is very easy to bring a volume of Hansard to

the House, to read a few sentences of a speech made in very different

circumstances, and to say, "Last year you were for pacifying England by

concession: this year you are for pacifying Ireland by coercion. How can

you vindicate your consistency?" Surely my honourable friend cannot

but know that nothing is easier than to write a theme for severity, for

clemency, for order, for liberty, for a contemplative life, for a active

life, and so on. It was a common exercise in the ancient schools of

rhetoric to take an abstract question, and to harangue first on one side

and then on the other. The question, Ought popular discontents to be

quieted by concession or coercion? would have been a very good subject

for oratory of this kind. There is no lack of commonplaces on either

side. But when we come to the real business of life, the value of these

commonplaces depends entirely on the particular circumstances of the

case which we are discussing. Nothing is easier than to write a treatise

proving that it is lawful to resist extreme tyranny. Nothing is easier

than to write a treatise setting forth the wickedness of wantonly

bringing on a great society the miseries inseparable from revolution,

the bloodshed, the spoliation, the anarchy. Both treatises may contain

much that is true; but neither will enable us to decide whether a

particular insurrection is or is not justifiable without a close

examination of the facts. There is surely no inconsistency in speaking

with respect of the memory of Lord Russell and with horror of the crime

of Thistlewood; and, in my opinion, the conduct of Russell and the

conduct of Thistlewood did not differ more widely than the cry for

Parliamentary Reform and the cry for the Repeal of the Union. The Reform

Bill I believe to be a blessing to the nation. Repeal I know to be a

mere delusion. I know it to be impracticable: and I know that, if it

were practicable, it would be pernicious to every part of the empire,

and utterly ruinous to Ireland. Is it not then absurd to say that,

because I wished last year to quiet the English people by giving them

that which was beneficial to them, I am therefore bound in consistency

to quiet the Irish people this year by giving them that which will

be fatal to them? I utterly deny, too, that, in consenting to arm the

government with extraordinary powers for the purpose of repressing

disturbances in Ireland, I am guilty of the smallest inconsistency. On

what occasion did I ever refuse to support any government in repressing

disturbances? It is perfectly true that, in the debates on the Reform

Bill, I imputed the tumults and outrages of 1830 to misrule. But did I

ever say that those tumults and outrages ought to be tolerated? I did

attribute the Kentish riots, the Hampshire riots, the burning of corn

stacks, the destruction of threshing machines, to the obstinacy with

which the Ministers of the Crown had refused to listen to the demands

of the people. But did I ever say that the rioters ought not to be

imprisoned, that the incendiaries ought not to be hanged? I did ascribe

the disorders of Nottingham and the fearful sacking of Bristol to the

unwise rejection of the Reform Bill by the Lords. But did I ever say

that such excesses as were committed at Nottingham and Bristol ought not

to be put down, if necessary, by the sword?

I would act towards Ireland on the same principles on which I acted

towards England. In Ireland, as in England, I would remove every just

cause of complaint; and in Ireland, as in England, I would support the

Government in preserving the public peace. What is there inconsistent

in this? My honourable friend seems to think that no person who believes

that disturbances have been caused by maladministration can consistently

lend his help to put down those disturbances. If that be so, the

honourable and learned Member for Dublin is quite as inconsistent as

I am; indeed, much more so; for he thinks very much worse of the

Government than I do; and yet he declares himself willing to assist

the Government in quelling the tumults which, as he assures us, its own

misconduct is likely to produce. He told us yesterday that our harsh

policy might perhaps goad the unthinking populace of Ireland into

insurrection; and he added that, if there should be insurrection, he

should, while execrating us as the authors of all the mischief, be found

in our ranks, and should be ready to support us in everything that

might be necessary for the restoration of order. As to this part of the

subject, there is no difference in principle between the honourable and

learned gentleman and myself. In his opinion, it is probable that a time

may soon come when vigorous coercion may be necessary, and when it may

be the duty of every friend of Ireland to co-operate in the work of

coercion. In my opinion, that time has already come. The grievances of

Ireland are doubtless great, so great that I never would have connected

myself with a Government which I did not believe to be intent on

redressing those grievances. But am I, because the grievances of Ireland

are great, and ought to be redressed, to abstain from redressing the

worst grievance of all? Am I to look on quietly while the laws are

insulted by a furious rabble, while houses are plundered and burned,

while my peaceable fellow-subjects are butchered? The distribution of

Church property, you tell us, is unjust. Perhaps I agree with you.

But what then? To what purpose is it to talk about the distribution of

Church property, while no property is secure? Then you try to deter us

from putting down robbery, arson, and murder, by telling us that if we

resort to coercion we shall raise a civil war. We are past that fear.

Recollect that, in one county alone, there have been within a few

weeks sixty murders or assaults with intent to murder and six hundred

burglaries. Since we parted last summer the slaughter in Ireland has

exceeded the slaughter of a pitched battle: the destruction of property

has been as great as would have been caused by the storming of three or

four towns. Civil war, indeed! I would rather live in the midst of any

civil war that we have had in England during the last two hundred

years than in some parts of Ireland at the present moment. Rather, much

rather, would I have lived on the line of march of the Pretender's army

in 1745 than in Tipperary now. It is idle to threaten us with civil war;

for we have it already; and it is because we are resolved to put an

end to it that we are called base, and brutal, and bloody. Such are the

epithets which the honourable and learned Member for Dublin thinks

it becoming to pour forth against the party to which he owes every

political privilege that he enjoys. He need not fear that any member

of that party will be provoked into a conflict of scurrility. Use

makes even sensitive minds callous to invective: and, copious as his

vocabulary is, he will not easily find in it any foul name which has not

been many times applied to those who sit around me, on account of the

zeal and steadiness with which they supported the emancipation of

the Roman Catholics. His reproaches are not more stinging than the

reproaches which, in times not very remote, we endured unflinchingly in

his cause. I can assure him that men who faced the cry of No Popery are

not likely to be scared by the cry of Repeal. The time will come when

history will do justice to the Whigs of England, and will faithfully

relate how much they did and suffered for Ireland; how, for the sake of

Ireland, they quitted office in 1807; how, for the sake of Ireland, they

remained out of office more than twenty years, braving the frowns of

the Court, braving the hisses of the multitude, renouncing power,

and patronage, and salaries, and peerages, and garters, and yet not

obtaining in return even a little fleeting popularity. I see on the

benches near me men who might, by uttering one word against Catholic

Emancipation, nay, by merely abstaining from uttering a word in favour

of Catholic Emancipation, have been returned to this House without

difficulty or expense, and who, rather than wrong their Irish

fellow-subjects, were content to relinquish all the objects of their

honourable ambition, and to retire into private life with conscience

and fame untarnished. As to one eminent person, who seems to be regarded

with especial malevolence by those who ought never to mention his name

without reverence and gratitude, I will say only this: that the loudest

clamour which the honourable and learned gentleman can excite against

Lord Grey will be trifling when compared with the clamour which Lord

Grey withstood in order to place the honourable and learned gentleman

where he now sits. Though a young member of the Whig party, I will

venture to speak in the name of the whole body. I tell the honourable

and learned gentleman, that the same spirit which sustained us in a just

contest for him will sustain us in an equally just contest against him.

Calumny, abuse, royal displeasure, popular fury, exclusion from office,

exclusion from Parliament, we were ready to endure them all, rather than

that he should be less than a British subject. We never will suffer him

to be more.

I stand here, Sir, for the first time as the representative of a

new constituent body, one of the largest, most prosperous, and most

enlightened towns in the kingdom. The electors of Leeds, believing that

at this time the service of the people is not incompatible with the

service of the Crown, have sent me to this House charged, in the

language of His Majesty's writ, to do and consent, in their name and in

their behalf, to such things as shall be proposed in the great Council

of the nation. In the name, then, and on the behalf of my constituents,

I give my full assent to that part of the Address wherein the House

declares its resolution to maintain inviolate, by the help of God, the

connection between Great Britain and Ireland, and to intrust to the

Sovereign such powers as shall be necessary to secure property, to

restore order, and to preserve the integrity of the empire.

*****

JEWISH DISABILITIES. (APRIL 17, 1833) A SPEECH DELIVERED IN A COMMITTEE

OF THE WHOLE HOUSE OF COMMONS ON THE 17TH OF APRIL, 1833.

On the seventeenth of April, 1833, the House of Commons resolved itself

into a Committee to consider of the civil disabilities of the Jews.

Mr Warburton took the chair. Mr Robert Grant moved the following

resolution:--

"That it is the opinion of this Committee that it is expedient to remove

all civil disabilities at present existing with respect to His Majesty's

subjects professing the Jewish religion, with the like exceptions as

are provided with respect to His Majesty's subjects professing the Roman

Catholic religion."

The resolution passed without a division, after a warm debate, in the

course of which the following Speech was made.

Mr Warburton,--I recollect, and my honourable friend the Member for

the University of Oxford will recollect, that when this subject was

discussed three years ago, it was remarked, by one whom we both loved

and whom we both regret, that the strength of the case of the Jews was a

serious inconvenience to their advocate, for that it was hardly possible

to make a speech for them without wearying the audience by repeating

truths which were universally admitted. If Sir James Mackintosh felt

this difficulty when the question was first brought forward in this

House, I may well despair of being able now to offer any arguments which

have a pretence to novelty.

My honourable friend, the Member for the University of Oxford, began his

speech by declaring that he had no intention of calling in question the

principles of religious liberty. He utterly disclaims persecution, that

is to say, persecution as defined by himself. It would, in his opinion,

be persecution to hang a Jew, or to flay him, or to draw his teeth,

or to imprison him, or to fine him; for every man who conducts himself

peaceably has a right to his life and his limbs, to his personal liberty

and his property. But it is not persecution, says my honourable friend,

to exclude any individual or any class from office; for nobody has a

right to office: in every country official appointments must be subject

to such regulations as the supreme authority may choose to make; nor can

any such regulations be reasonably complained of by any member of the

society as unjust. He who obtains an office obtains it, not as matter of

right, but as matter of favour. He who does not obtain an office is

not wronged; he is only in that situation in which the vast majority

of every community must necessarily be. There are in the United Kingdom

five and twenty million Christians without places; and, if they do not

complain, why should five and twenty thousand Jews complain of being in

the same case? In this way my honourable friend has convinced himself

that, as it would be most absurd in him and me to say that we are

wronged because we are not Secretaries of State, so it is most absurd

in the Jews to say that they are wronged, because they are, as a people,

excluded from public employment.

Now, surely my honourable friend cannot have considered to what

conclusions his reasoning leads. Those conclusions are so monstrous that

he would, I am certain, shrink from them. Does he really mean that it

would not be wrong in the legislature to enact that no man should be

a judge unless he weighed twelve stone, or that no man should sit in

parliament unless he were six feet high? We are about to bring in a bill

for the government of India. Suppose that we were to insert in that bill

a clause providing that no graduate of the University of Oxford

should be Governor General or Governor of any Presidency, would not my

honourable friend cry out against such a clause as most unjust to

the learned body which he represents? And would he think himself

sufficiently answered by being told, in his own words, that the

appointment to office is a mere matter of favour, and that to exclude

an individual or a class from office is no injury? Surely, on

consideration, he must admit that official appointments ought not to

be subject to regulations purely arbitrary, to regulations for which no

reason can be given but mere caprice, and that those who would exclude

any class from public employment are bound to show some special reason

for the exclusion.

My honourable friend has appealed to us as Christians. Let me then ask

him how he understands that great commandment which comprises the law

and the prophets. Can we be said to do unto others as we would that they

should do unto us if we wantonly inflict on them even the smallest

pain? As Christians, surely we are bound to consider, first, whether,

by excluding the Jews from all public trust, we give them pain; and,

secondly, whether it be necessary to give them that pain in order to

avert some greater evil. That by excluding them from public trust

we inflict pain on them my honourable friend will not dispute. As a

Christian, therefore, he is bound to relieve them from that pain, unless

he can show, what I am sure he has not yet shown, that it is necessary

to the general good that they should continue to suffer.

But where, he says, are you to stop, if once you admit into the House of

Commons people who deny the authority of the Gospels? Will you let in

a Mussulman? Will you let in a Parsee? Will you let in a Hindoo, who

worships a lump of stone with seven heads? I will answer my honourable

friend's question by another. Where does he mean to stop? Is he ready to

roast unbelievers at slow fires? If not, let him tell us why: and I

will engage to prove that his reason is just as decisive against the

intolerance which he thinks a duty, as against the intolerance which he

thinks a crime. Once admit that we are bound to inflict pain on a man

because he is not of our religion; and where are you to stop? Why stop

at the point fixed by my honourable friend rather than at the point

fixed by the honourable Member for Oldham (Mr Cobbett.), who would make

the Jews incapable of holding land? And why stop at the point fixed by

the honourable Member for Oldham rather than at the point which would

have been fixed by a Spanish Inquisitor of the sixteenth century? When

once you enter on a course of persecution, I defy you to find any reason

for making a halt till you have reached the extreme point. When my

honourable friend tells us that he will allow the Jews to possess

property to any amount, but that he will not allow them to possess the

smallest political power, he holds contradictory language. Property

is power. The honourable Member for Oldham reasons better than my

honourable friend. The honourable Member for Oldham sees very clearly

that it is impossible to deprive a man of political power if you

suffer him to be the proprietor of half a county, and therefore very

consistently proposes to confiscate the landed estates of the Jews. But

even the honourable Member for Oldham does not go far enough. He has

not proposed to confiscate the personal property of the Jews. Yet it is

perfectly certain that any Jew who has a million may easily make himself

very important in the State. By such steps we pass from official power

to landed property, and from landed property to personal property, and

from property to liberty, and from liberty to life. In truth, those

persecutors who use the rack and the stake have much to say for

themselves. They are convinced that their end is good; and it must be

admitted that they employ means which are not unlikely to attain the

end. Religious dissent has repeatedly been put down by sanguinary

persecution. In that way the Albigenses were put down. In that way

Protestantism was suppressed in Spain and Italy, so that it has never

since reared its head. But I defy any body to produce an instance in

which disabilities such as we are now considering have produced any

other effect than that of making the sufferers angry and obstinate.

My honourable friend should either persecute to some purpose, or not

persecute at all. He dislikes the word persecution I know. He will not

admit that the Jews are persecuted. And yet I am confident that he would

rather be sent to the King's Bench Prison for three months, or be fined

a hundred pounds, than be subject to the disabilities under which the

Jews lie. How can he then say that to impose such disabilities is not

persecution, and that to fine and imprison is persecution? All his

reasoning consists in drawing arbitrary lines. What he does not wish to

inflict he calls persecution. What he does wish to inflict he will not

call persecution. What he takes from the Jews he calls political power.

What he is too good-natured to take from the Jews he will not call

political power. The Jew must not sit in Parliament: but he may be the

proprietor of all the ten pound houses in a borough. He may have more

fifty pound tenants than any peer in the kingdom. He may give the voters

treats to please their palates, and hire bands of gipsies to break their

heads, as if he were a Christian and a Marquess. All the rest of this

system is of a piece. The Jew may be a juryman, but not a judge. He

may decide issues of fact, but not issues of law. He may give a hundred

thousand pounds damages; but he may not in the most trivial case grant a

new trial. He may rule the money market: he may influence the

exchanges: he may be summoned to congresses of Emperors and Kings. Great

potentates, instead of negotiating a loan with him by tying him in a

chair and pulling out his grinders, may treat with him as with a great

potentate, and may postpone the declaring of war or the signing of a

treaty till they have conferred with him. All this is as it should

be: but he must not be a Privy Councillor. He must not be called Right

Honourable, for that is political power. And who is it that we are

trying to cheat in this way? Even Omniscience. Yes, Sir; we have been

gravely told that the Jews are under the divine displeasure, and that if

we give them political power God will visit us in judgment. Do we then

think that God cannot distinguish between substance and form? Does not

He know that, while we withhold from the Jews the semblance and name

of political power, we suffer them to possess the substance? The plain

truth is that my honourable friend is drawn in one direction by his

opinions, and in a directly opposite direction by his excellent heart.

He halts between two opinions. He tries to make a compromise between

principles which admit of no compromise. He goes a certain way in

intolerance. Then he stops, without being able to give a reason for

stopping. But I know the reason. It is his humanity. Those who formerly

dragged the Jew at a horse's tail, and singed his beard with blazing

furzebushes, were much worse men than my honourable friend; but they

were more consistent than he.

It has been said that it would be monstrous to see a Jew judge try a man

for blasphemy. In my opinion it is monstrous to see any judge try a man

for blasphemy under the present law. But, if the law on that subject

were in a sound state, I do not see why a conscientious Jew might not

try a blasphemer. Every man, I think, ought to be at liberty to discuss

the evidences of religion; but no man ought to be at liberty to force on

the unwilling ears and eyes of others sounds and sights which must cause

annoyance and irritation. The distinction is clear. I think it wrong to

punish a man for selling Paine's Age of Reason in a back-shop to those

who choose to buy, or for delivering a Deistical lecture in a private

room to those who choose to listen. But if a man exhibits at a window

in the Strand a hideous caricature of that which is an object of awe

and adoration to nine hundred and ninety-nine out of every thousand of

people who pass up and down that great thoroughfare; if a man in a place

of public resort applies opprobrious epithets to names held in reverence

by all Christians; such a man ought, in my opinion, to be severely

punished, not for differing from us in opinion, but for committing a

nuisance which gives us pain and disgust. He is no more entitled to

outrage our feelings by obtruding his impiety on us, and to say that

he is exercising his right of discussion, than to establish a yard for

butchering horses close to our houses, and to say that he is exercising

his right of property, or to run naked up and down the public streets,

and to say that he is exercising his right of locomotion. He has a right

of discussion, no doubt, as he has a right of property and a right of

locomotion. But he must use all his rights so as not to infringe the

rights of others.

These, Sir, are the principles on which I would frame the law of

blasphemy; and if the law were so framed, I am at a loss to understand

why a Jew might not enforce it as well as a Christian. I am not a Roman

Catholic; but if I were a judge at Malta, I should have no scruple about

punishing a bigoted Protestant who should burn the Pope in effigy before

the eyes of thousands of Roman Catholics. I am not a Mussulman; but if

I were a judge in India, I should have no scruple about punishing a

Christian who should pollute a mosque. Why, then, should I doubt that

a Jew, raised by his ability, learning, and integrity to the judicial

bench, would deal properly with any person who, in a Christian country,

should insult the Christian religion?

But, says my honourable friend, it has been prophesied that the Jews are

to be wanderers on the face of the earth, and that they are not to mix

on terms of equality with the people of the countries in which they

sojourn. Now, Sir, I am confident that I can demonstrate that this is

not the sense of any prophecy which is part of Holy Writ. For it is an

undoubted fact that, in the United States of America, Jewish citizens do

possess all the privileges possessed by Christian citizens. Therefore,

if the prophecies mean that the Jews never shall, during their

wanderings, be admitted by other nations to equal participation of

political rights, the prophecies are false. But the prophecies are

certainly not false. Therefore their meaning cannot be that which is

attributed to them by my honourable friend.

Another objection which has been made to this motion is that the Jews

look forward to the coming of a great deliverer, to their return to

Palestine, to the rebuilding of their Temple, to the revival of their

ancient worship, and that therefore they will always consider England,

not their country, but merely as their place of exile. But, surely, Sir,

it would be the grossest ignorance of human nature to imagine that the

anticipation of an event which is to happen at some time altogether

indefinite, of an event which has been vainly expected during many

centuries, of an event which even those who confidently expect that it

will happen do not confidently expect that they or their children or

their grandchildren will see, can ever occupy the minds of men to such

a degree as to make them regardless of what is near and present and

certain. Indeed Christians, as well as Jews, believe that the existing

order of things will come to an end. Many Christians believe that Jesus

will visibly reign on earth during a thousand years. Expositors of

prophecy have gone so far as to fix the year when the Millennial period

is to commence. The prevailing opinion is, I think, in favour of the

year 1866; but, according to some commentators, the time is close at

hand. Are we to exclude all millennarians from Parliament and office, on

the ground that they are impatiently looking forward to the miraculous

monarchy which is to supersede the present dynasty and the present

constitution of England, and that therefore they cannot be heartily

loyal to King William?

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