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NOTES AND QUERIES:

A MEDIUM OF INTER-COMMUNICATION

FOR

LITERARY MEN, ARTISTS, ANTIQUARIES, GENEALOGISTS, ETC.

"When found, make a note of."--CAPTAIN CUTTLE.

VOL. IV.--No. 90. SATURDAY, JULY 19. 1851.

Price Threepence. Stamped Edition, 4_d._

CONTENTS.

Page

NOTES:--

A Caxton Memorial suggested, by Bolton Corney 33

Supposed Witchcraft 35

The late Sir John Graham Dalyell 35

Appropriation of a Thought, by James Cornish 36

The "Eisell" Controversy, by Samuel Hickson 36

Minor Notes:--"Miserrimus"--The Dog and Duck, St. George's

Fields--The Habit of profane Swearing by the

English--Tennyson's Use of the Word "Cycle"--A Moiety 37

QUERIES:--

Etymology of Fontainebleau, by H. H. Breen 38

Force of Conscience 38

English Literature in the North, by George Stephens 38

Minor Queries:--Painted Portraits of Overton--Fourth

Fare--John Wood, Architect--Derivation of "Spon"--Dell, in

what County--Bummaree or Bumaree--Thread the Needle--Proof

of a Sword--Shelley's Children--Ackey Trade--Baskerville

the Printer--Statue of Charles II.--La Mère Jeanne--Man

Of War, why a Ship Of War so called--Secret Service Money

of Charles II.--Hampton Court 39

MINOR QUERIES ANSWERED:--De Rebus Hibernicis--Abridgment

of the Assizes--Life Of Cromwell 41

REPLIES:--

Written Sermons and Extempore Preaching 41

Fest Sittings 42

Histoire des Sévérambes, by H. H. Breen 43

Salting the Dead 43

Replies to Minor Queries:--Bogatsky--Baronette--Rifles

--Miss--Lady Flora Hastings' Bequest--English Sapphics--

Welwood--Bellarmio's Monstrous Paradox--Jonah and the

Whale--Book Plates 44

MISCELLANEOUS:--

Notes on Books, Sales, Catalogues, &c. 46

Books and Odd Volumes wanted 46

Notices to Correspondents 47

Advertisements 47

Notes.

A CAXTON MEMORIAL SUGGESTED.

After Caxton had slept with his fathers for three centuries, remembered

only by a few antiquaries, it was deemed fit that a public monument

should record his merits.

The Roxburghe club, much to the honour of its members, undertook to bear

the cost of it, and to superintend its execution. With regard to its

location, there was no question as to the paramount claims of

Westminster. It was proposed, in the first instance, to place it in the

collegiate church of St. Peter, within the precincts of which church

Caxton had exercised his art. The want of a convenient space was rather

an obstacle to that plan: a more serious obstacle was the amount of fees

demanded on such occasions. It was then decided, and perhaps with more

propriety, that it should be placed in the parish church of St.

Margaret; and the execution of the monument, which was to be of the

tablet form, was entrusted to the younger Westmacott.[1] An engraving of

it has been published.[2] The inscription is

"_To the memory_

of William Caxton

who first introduced into Great Britain

the art of printing

and who A.D. 1477 or earlier

exercised that art

in the abbey of Westminster.

This tablet

_in remembrance_ of one

to whom

the literature of his country

is so largely indebted

was raised

anno Domini MDCCCXX

by the Roxburghe club

earl Spencer, K.G. president."

[Footnote 1: T. F. Dibdin, _Reminiscences of a literary life_.

London, 1836. 8vo. i. 386.]

[Footnote 2: J. Martin, _A catalogue of books privately printed_.

London, 1834. 8vo. p. 486.]

The monument, as a piece of sculpture, is simplicity itself, and

therefore suitable to the place of its destination. To the inscription I

venture to make some slight objections: 1. Whether Caxton "introduced

into Great Britain the art of printing" admits of a doubt. There is no

evidence to invalidate the colophon of the _Exposicio S. Jeronimi in

simbolo Apostolorum_.[3] Dibdin fully believed in its authenticity.[4]

2. Caxton is very imperfectly designated. He was a well-informed writer,

a most assiduous translator, and a very careful editor. As early as

1548, he was classed among the _Illustres majoris Britanniæ

scriptores_[5]--but we are on the decline, it seems, in point of tact

and intelligence. 3. The date of his decease, and the place of his

burial, should have been stated. The facts are recorded in the accounts

of the churchwardens of this very parish, and _nowhere else_.[6] 4. The

inscription, as a composition, wants terseness: on this point, I content

myself with giving a hint _typographically_.

[Footnote 3: S. W. Singer, _Some account of the book printed at

Oxford in 1468_. London, 1812. 8vo. p. 44.]

[Footnote 4: _Typographical antiquities_, by Joseph Ames, etc.

London, 1810. 4to. _Life of Caxton_, p. 75.]

[Footnote 5: _Illvstrivm maíoris Britanniae scriptorvm summari[=u]

avtore Ioanne Balaeo._ Gippeswici, 1548. 4to. fol. 208.]

[Footnote 6: John Nichols, _Illustrations of the manners and

expences of ancient times_. London, 1797. 4to. p. 3.]

In 1847 a fresh attempt as made to revive the memory of Caxton. After

due notice, a public meeting was held on the 12th of June to "promote

the erection of a monument to commemorate the introduction of printing

into England, and in honour of William Caxton, the earliest English

printer"--the lord Morpeth in the chair. The meeting was extremely well

attended. The form of monument proposed was, the combination of a

fountain by day and a light by night--the poetical conception of the

rev. H. H. Milman. Some excellent speeches were made--and I cannot but

particularize that of the noble chairman; considerable sums were

subscribed--the messieurs Clowes tendering 100_l._; a committee, a

sub-committee, a treasurer, and a secretary, were appointed.[7]--With

the proceedings of that meeting, as publicly reported, my information

terminated.

[Footnote 7: _The Times_, June 14, 1847.]

After a lapse of four years, a meeting of the subscribers to the _Caxton

Testimonial_ was advertised for the 10th of July, to "consider an offer

made by the Coalbrookdale Iron Company to erect an _iron statue of

Caxton_--and, in the event of the proposal being adopted, to determine

the best means of carrying the same into effect." I was much astonished

at this announcement. A meeting to consider an offer to perpetuate a

fiction in connexion with an art which surpasses all other arts in its

power of establishing truth! On reflection, I became calm; and felt that

Mr. Henry Cole, the honorary secretary, was perfectly right in adopting

the customary phraseology. The result of this meeting is a desideratum.

It seems to have been private; for an examination of 300 columns of _The

Times_, being, the history of four days, did not lead to the discovery

of one word on the _iron statue of Caxton_.

If the statue-mania did not now prevail to an unexampled extent, I

should feel much confidence in the sound sense of the subscribers--but I

have my misgivings.

According to _my_ feelings, which I avail myself of this opportunity of

recording, we may commemorate an eminent individual in better ways than

by the erection of a statue; the philanthropist, by an alms-house--the

scholar, by scholarships--the naval commander, by a sea-mark--etc.

Admitting that a statue may sometimes be the most desirable form of

monument, the _statue_ of an individual of whose features we are in

entire ignorance is a misnomer. It is scarcely less than an absurdity.

As I have intimated that there is no authentic portrait of Caxton, I

must now justify my conviction. Ames published a woodcut as a portrait

of our venerable Caxton[8]: Dibdin discovered it to be a "portrait of

Burchiello,"[9] an eccentric Florentine barber!--le poète le plus

bizarre qui ait jamais écrit! Horace Walpole published a print said to

represent earl Rivers "introducing Caxton to Edward IV."[10] It was

copied from an illuminated MS. in the archiepiscopal library at Lambeth,

No. 265. Now, what says Mr. Todd? "That Caxton _printed this book_ in

1477, is well known. But what has that circumstance to do with the earl

_presenting or attending the presentation of his own manuscript_? The

figure here introduced by the earl is evidently, by the tonsure and

habit, a _priest_; which Caxton was not."[11] I have heard of no other

engraved portraits of Caxton.

[Footnote 8: _Typographical antiquities._ London, 1749. 4to. p.

54.]

[Footnote 9: _The bibliographical decameron._ London, 1817. 8vo.

ii. 288.]

[Footnote 10: _Catalogue of royal and noble authors._

Strawberry-hill, 1758. 8vo. i. 60.]

[Footnote 11: _Catalogue of the archiepiscopal manuscripts at

Lambeth._ London, 1812. Fol. p. 37.]

Viewing Caxton as a man of considerable literary abilities, and as the

_first English printer_, I have now to propose for him a monument which

shall do justice to his merits in both capacities--a monument which

shall be visible at all times, and in all places: I propose a collective

impression of his original compositions. Such a volume would be the best

account of his life and works. It would also exhibit much of the

literary history of the times--some sound criticism and notions on

editorship--and curious specimens of the style of our forefathers. It

would comprise what no wealth could procure--what no single library

could produce. It would be, to use the forcible words of messieurs

Visconti and Castellan, on a somewhat similar occasion, "un monument

plus utile et plus durable que ceux même que l'on peut ériger avec le

marbre et le bronze."[12]

[Footnote 12: _Journal des savans._ 1818. 4to. p. 389.]

_Proposed Conditions._

1. A volume, to be entitled THE CAXTON MEMORIAL, shall be printed

for subscribers under approved editorship, and shall contain all

the original compositions of WILLIAM CAXTON, as proems, notes,

colophons, etc., with specimens of his translations, and

fac-simile cuts of his device and types.

2. In order to expedite the progress of the volume, and to ensure

the _perfect accuracy_ of its contents, there shall be three

co-editors--one of whom shall act as secretary.

3. The volume shall be printed in Roman type, with the ancient

orthography and punctuation; and in two sizes--in royal octavo,

and in demy octavo.

4. Subscribers of 1_l._ 1_s._ shall be entitled to a copy on royal

paper, and subscribers of 10_s._ 6_d._ to a copy on demy paper.

5. Each editor shall be entitled to the same number of copies as

are allowed by the Camden and other similar societies.

6. The number of copies printed shall not exceed the number for

which subscriptions shall have been received, except as required

by the fifth rule, and as presents to such public libraries, or

private collectors, as may furnish a part of the materials.

7. Printers and publishers subscribing for six copies shall be

allowed a discount of 25 per cent.

8. The names of the subscribers, and an account of the receipts

and expenditure, shall be added to the volume.

The project now announced was formed by me, as to its principal

features, at the close of the year 1849; but not a line was written

before the appearance of the advertisement of the 5th instant. It had

been communicated, however, in private, to the editor of "NOTES AND

QUERIES." To this fact I have no doubt he will cheerfully bear witness.

As the previous scheme of a _Caxton Testimonial_ was then almost

forgotten, the idea could not have been conceived in spirit of rivalry.

Nevertheless, if need be, I would oppose to the utmost of my ability,

and fearless of any array of names which the rolls of literature may

furnish, the PERPETUATION OF A FICTION.

BOLTON CORNEY.

Barnes Terrace, Surrey, July 15.

SUPPOSED WITCHCRAFT.

Cole, in his manuscript volume xlvi. p. 340, gives the copy of a paper

written at the beginning of the seventeenth century, addressed to some

Justices in Quarter Sessions, though of what county is not mentioned:--

"Maye it please your worships to understand what troubles,

sicknesse, and losses the Petitioner hath suffered, and in what

manner theye happened, and by plaine tokens and lyklyhood, by the

meanes of this woman and others; but chiefly by her, as is

gathered by all conjectures. And first of all, a Boare which I

have, was in such case, that he could not crye nor grunt as

beforetyme; neither could he goe, but creepe, until we used some

meanes to recover him; but all was to no purpose, untill such tyme

as we sent for Nicholas Wesgate, who, when he saw him, said, 'He

was madd or bewitched;' and my Wyfe using meanes to give him some

Milke, he bit her by the hand, and I fearing he was madd, sent

after my wyfe, being toward Norwich, that she might get something

at the Apothecaries to prevent the danger we feared: and that

Horse which my man did ryde upon after my wife, was taken lame as

he returned back again, and suddenly after was swollen lyke a

Bladder which is blown, and died within eight dayes. Nexte a Calfe

was taken lame, the legg turning upward, which was a strange sight

to them whoe did beholde the same. Suddenly after that I had fyve

Calves more, which should have sold for xiij_s._ iiij_d._ the

Calfe, being sound and well in the evening, and the next daye in

the morning they were in such case as wee could not endure to come

nigh them, by reason of a filthy noisome savour, theyre hayre

standinge upright on theyre backes, and theye shakinge in such

sorte as I never sawe, nor any other, I suppose, lyveynge. Againe

within a short space I had another Calfe, which was taken so

strangely, as if the backe were broken, and much swollen, and

within the space of three or four dayes it dyed. And within two or

three dayes after, another Calfe was taken in such sorte that it

turned round about, and did goe as if the backe were broken. Then

was I wished to burne it, and I carried the Calfe to burne it, and

after it was burned, I was taken with paynes and gripings, and soe

continued in such sort, untyll shee came to my House; whereupon I

did earnestly chide her, and said I would beate her, and that

daye, I prayse God, I was restored to my former health."

H. E.

THE LATE SIR JOHN GRAHAM DALYELL, BARONET, OF BINNS, N.B.

This learned and accomplished gentleman was born in 1776. He was

educated for the Scottish bar, to which he was called in the year 1797.

Within a year or two after he was enrolled as a member of the Faculty,

he produced his first quarto, _Fragments of Scottish History_. This was

followed, in the year 1801, by a collection of _Scottish Poems of the

Sixteenth Century_, in two octavo volumes. In 1809 appeared a _Tract

chiefly relative to Monastic Antiquities, with some Account of a recent

Search for the Remains of the Scottish Kings interred in the Abbey of

Dunfermline_, the first of four or five thin octavos, in which Mr.

Graham Dalyell called attention to those ecclesiastical records of the

north, so many of which have since been printed by the Bannatyne,

Maitland, and Spalding Clubs, under the editorial care of Mr. Cosmo

Innes. A later and more laborious work was his _Essay on the Darker

Superstitions of Scotland_; a performance which embodies the fruit of

much patient study in rare and little read works, and affords many

curious glimpses of the popular mythology of the north. The long list of

the productions of Sir John Graham Dalyell closes with his _Musical

Memoirs of Scotland_, published little more than a twelvemonth ago. The

deceased baronet was distinguished also by his acquaintance with

mechanical science, and still more by his knowledge of Natural History.

Of the zeal with which he prosecuted this last pursuit, he has left a

signal monument in his _Rare and Remarkable Animals of Scotland_. Sir

John succeeded to the family title and estates, as sixth baronet, on the

death of his elder brother, Sir James Dalyell, on February 1, 1841. He

had previously been advanced to the honours of knighthood, by patent

under the Great Seal, in the year 1836. He had been for some time in

infirm health, and died at his residence, Great King Street, Edinburgh,

on May 17, 1851, in his seventy-fourth year. Dying unmarried, he is

succeeded by his younger brother, now Sir William Cunningham Cavendish

Dalyell, of Binns, baronet, Commander R.N., Royal Hospital, Greenwich.

ABERDENIENSIS.

APPROPRIATION OF A THOUGHT--OLDHAM, DRYDEN, AND BYRON.--THE STATE OF

MIND IN THE PROGRESS OF COMPOSITION.

"How when the Fancy, lab'ring for a birth,

With unfelt Throws brings its rude issue forth:

How after, when imperfect, shapeless thought

Is by the judgment into Fashion wrought,

When at first search I traverse o'er my mind,

Nought but a dark and empty void I find:

Some little hints at length like sparks break thence,

_And glimmering thoughts just dawning into sense:

Confus'd awhile the mixt ideas lie,

With nought of mark to be discover'd by,

Like colours undistinguish'd in the night,

Till the dusk images, moved to the light,

Teach the discerning Faculty to choose

Which it had best adopt and which refuse._"

"Some New Pieces" in Oldham's Works,

pp. 126-27., 1684.

Dryden, alluding to his work:

"When it was only a confused mass of thoughts _tumbling_ over one

another in the dark; when the fancy was yet in its _first work_,

moving the _sleeping images of things_ towards the light, there to

be distinguished, and there either to be _chosen_ or rejected by

the _judgment_."--Dedication to the _Rival Ladies_.

Lord Byron's appropriation of the same idea:

---- "As yet 'tis but a chaos

Of darkly brooding thoughts: my fancy is

In her _first work_, more nearly to the light

Holding the sleeping images of things

For the selection of the pausing judgment."

_Doge of Venice._

Had Oldham or Dryden the prior claim to the thought? Byron derived _his_

plagiarism from D'Israeli, "On the Literary Character" (vol. i. p. 284.,

1828), where Dryden's Dedication to his _Rival Ladies_ is quoted, and

_not_ from the Dedication itself, as the _Retrospective Review_ imagined

(vol. vii. p. 158.), "by levying contributions in the most secret and

lonely recesses of our literature."

JAMES CORNISH.

THE "EISELL" CONTROVERSY.

When Polonius proposed to use the players according to their desert,

Hamlet rebuked him with "Much better man! use every man after his

desert, and who shall 'scape whipping? Use them after your own honour

and dignity!" I do not think it necessary to notice that what is merely

coarse and vulgar in an unprovoked attack upon myself, feeling that I

have no right to expect the man who has no consideration for his own

dignity to think of mine. But when an attempt is made to sow dissension

between me and those whose opinions I value, and whose characters I

esteem, I feel that in justice to myself and in satisfaction to them, a

few words are not out of place.

Some few of your readers may have seen a pamphlet in reply to MR.

SINGER, on the meaning of _eisell_ and from certain insinuations about

"pegs and wires," and a "literary coterie," it might be supposed that

there existed some other bond for the support of "NOTES AND QUERIES"

than a common object affords. I wish then to inform such of them as may

not happen to belong to the "coterie" in question (which I suppose

exists somewhere--perhaps holds a sort of witch's-sabbath on some

inaccessible peak in the pamphleteer's imagination), that I have never,

to my knowledge, even seen either MR. SINGER or the editor of "NOTES AND

QUERIES;" and that, so far from meaning offence to the angry gentleman

who seems disposed to run-a-muck against all who come in his way, I

actually supposed all meant in good part, and characterised his remarks

as "pleasant criticism."

From an apparent inability, however, of this pamphleteer to distinguish

between pleasantry and acrimony, he has attempted to fix on me offences

against others when I have ventured to dissent from their conclusions.

All I can say is, that I have never written anything inconsistent with

the very high respect I feel for the abilities and the great services

rendered by the gentlemen I have had occasion to allude to.

Dire is the wrath of the pamphleteer that he should have been charged by

MR. SINGER with "want of truth." That gentleman doubtless saw what I did

not, the implied insinuation--since burst into full flower--about a

"coterie." Yet the candid controversialist, now, after due deliberation,

insinuates that a "canon of criticism," which I ventured to suggest, and

at which he now finds it convenient to sneer, was remembered for the

purpose of "bolstering up" MR. SINGER'S "bad argument." So far from this

being the case, he knows that I used MR. SINGER'S argument--at the close

of, and apart from the main purpose of my letter, to illustrate mine.

So, in another place, in the attempt to show up my "charming and

off-hand modesty," he quotes my opinion that the meaning of "rack"

might be "settled at once and for ever," suppressing the fact that I

made the assertion with a view of "testing the correctness of my opinion

that the question was not one of etymology, but of construction. In

short, an adept in the use of those weapons which are of value only

where victory seems a higher aim than truth, his honesty would appear to

be upon a level with his taste.

I have now done with this gentleman. Of the importance of inquiries into

nice verbal distinctions there might be a question, but that they

sometimes furnish a clue to more valuable discoveries but for this fact

I should little regard them. At all events, the remark about the

difference "'twixt tweedle-dum and tweedle-dee," comes with strange

inconsistency from one who has written fifty-two pages with no other

result than raising the question whether "bitter" was not "sour," and

proving how both qualities may be combined in a truly "nauseous

medicament."

SAMUEL HICKSON.

St. John's Wood.

[Our attention having, been directed by the preceding letter to

Mr. Causton's pamphlet, we procured and read it, with feelings of

deep pain, not for ourselves but for the writer. We are content to

rest the justification of our conduct in abridging, or, as Mr.

Causton terms it, "mutilating," that gentleman's communication, on

the very passages which we omitted, and he has reprinted. Mr.

Causton's pamphlet, written in defence of his literary reputation,

proves that that reputation has no enemy so dangerous as himself.

We may add that we propose next week publishing a summary of the

evidence on both sides of this disputed question, written not by

Mr. Causton nor Mr. Hickson, but by a correspondent who, like

those gentlemen, is personally unknown to us.]

Minor Notes.

"_Miserrimus._"--I have an extraordinary little volume, which, I am

told, was written by Frederic Mansell Reynolds, who died in June, 1850,

entitled, "_Miserrimus_. On a gravestone in Worcester Cathedral is this

inscription, 'Miserrimus,' with neither name, date, nor comment. NOT

PUBLISHED. Printed by Davison, Simmons, & Co., 1832," 12mo.

The work purports to be a sort of autobiography of a most miserable

wretch, and we are left to suppose that his remains lie under the stone

in question, for we are not furnished with any preface or introduction.

Whether the author was aware of the name of the person over whom so

singular an inscription was placed does not appear; but there is no

reason to believe that the repulsive and painful aberrations he details

had any relation to the individual buried under the memorial of

"Miserrimus," whose name is recorded in Chambers's _Biographical

Illustrations of Worcestershire_, p. 310., as the Rev. Thomas Morris,

who was deprived of all ecclesiastical preferment for refusing to

acknowledge the king's supremacy at the Revolution, and died, it is

stated, in 1748, silvered over with the weight and infirmities of

eighty-eight years--"Miserrimus."

F. R. A.

_The Dog and Duck, St. George's Fields._--It is not generally known,

that the _old stone sign_ of that celebrated place of public resort is

still in existence, and is preserved by being imbedded in the brick wall

of the garden of Bedlam Hospital (visible from the road), representing a

dog squatting on his haunches with a duck in his mouth; and the date

1617. It was placed here on removal of the old house which stood on, or

very close to, the spot; and in the superintendent's (Mr. Nicholl's)

room is a very pretty drawing of that ancient place of amusement. I have

had a sketch made of it in large.

Any information respecting the Dog and Duck, its guests, visitors, or

landlords, would be most acceptable to

G. CREED.

_The Habit of Profane Swearing by the English._--The revolting habit of

swearing--which, of late years, has happily diminished--has been a

marked characteristic of the English for _many centuries_; and the

national adjuration which has given us a _nick-name_ on the continent,

appears to have prevailed at an earlier period than is generally

supposed.

"The English," observes Henry, "were remarkable in this period (between

1399 and 1485) among the nations of Europe, for the absurd and impious

practice of profane swearing in conversation."

The Count of Luxemburg, accompanied by the Earls of Warwick and

Stafford, visited the Maid of Orleans in her prison at Rouen, where she

was chained to the floor and loaded with irons. The Count, who had sold

her to the English, pretended that he had come to treat with her about

her ransom. After addressing him with contempt and disdain, she turned

her eyes towards the two Earls, and said,--"I know that you English are

determined to put me to death, and imagine that, after I am dead, you

will conquer France: but, though there were a hundred thousand

_G----dammees_ more in France than there are, they will never conquer

that kingdom." So early had the English got this odious nick-name by

their frequent and common use of that horrid and disgusting imprecation.

T. WE.

_Tennyson's Use of the Word "Cycle."--A Moiety._--There is a line in

_Locksley Hall_ which has always appeared to me a sad blemish in a fine

poem, and which may, perhaps, puzzle posterity as much as any of those

which have been illustrated by G. P. (Vol. iii., p. 319.) I allude to

that in stanza 92.:

"Better fifty years of Europe than a cycle of Cathay."

Posterity will easily learn that the Chinese cycle was just "sixty

years," and will have some difficulty in believing that Tennyson should

have rated the disparity between life in Europe and in China no higher

than as six to five. It is evident that the poet used a "cycle" in the

signification of a long period of years; but will posterity be able to

find any authority for this use of the word? Can any one refer to a

dictionary which explains it in that sense, or to any other good author

who has so used it?

This use of the word "cycle" is associated in my mind with a use (or

rather _abuse_) of the word "moiety," which prevails in the north of

Ireland, and perhaps elsewhere. It properly signifies "one half," but

many employ it in the sense of a very small portion. I hope no one will

introduce it into poetry with this signification.

MATTER OF FACT.

QUERIES.

ETYMOLOGY OF FONTAINEBLEAU.

The _Description Routière et Géographique de l'Empire Français_, already

cited by me on the subject of Bicêtre, furnishes the following

particulars respecting the derivation of Fontainebleau:

"Ce bassin sert de décharge à la fontaine, qui a donné, dit-on,

son nom à Fontainebleau. Elle est nommée, dans les anciennes

chartes, _Fons Blaudi_. Quelques modernes substituent à cette

étymologie celle de _belle eau_, d'où ils font également dériver

Fontainebleau. L'une et l'autre sont rejetées par Expilly, et

remplacées par une troisième de sa façon, qui est évidente, selon

lui, et qui, selon ses lecteurs, est la plus absurde de toutes. Je

vais citer ce passage pour faire sentir jusqu'à quel travers

d'esprit peut conduire la manie des étymologies. 'Pourquoi,'

dit-il, 'se donner la torture à ce sujet? Il suffit de la moindre

notion de la chasse pour savoir que, quand le chasseur appellè les

chiens, il crie: _Thia hillaut!_ N'est-il pas vraisemblable que le

château ayant été bâti en pays de chasse, les habitans des

environs, entendant continuellement le mot _hillaut_,

l'appellèrent de ce nom, auquel ils joignirent celui de la

fontaine près de laquelle il avait été bâti. De _Fontaine hillaut_

on fit insensiblement Fontainebleau.'"

TWO Queries suggest themselves here. Who or what was _Blaudus_ or

_Blaudum_? Is our _Tally-ho_ derived from _Thia hillaut_, or _vice

versâ_? As to the "travers d'esprit," so gravely imputed to Expilly, it

is clear to me that his solution of the matter must be taken as a

burlesque on etymologists, rather than as any evidence of his own

extravagance in that respect.

HENRY H. BREEN.

St. Lucia, June, 1851.

FORCE OF CONSCIENCE.

The following relation has often been reprinted in religious magazines

and the like. It is given by Dr. Fordyce, Professor of Philosophy at

Aberdeen, in his _Dialogues concerning Education_ (London, 1748, vol.

ii. p. 401.), as "a true story, _which happened in a neighbouring state

not many years ago_." Can any of your readers furnish me with Dr. F.'s

authority for the assertion?--the Doctor himself gives none. One would

think that, if true, its truth might be easily verified. If its truth

cannot be satisfactorily established, to reprint such tales cannot but

be most mischievous:--

"A jeweller of considerable wealth having occasion to travel to

some distance from the place of his abode, took with him a servant

in order to take care of his portmanteau. Having occasion to

dismount on the road, the servant, watching his opportunity, took

a pistol from his master's saddle and shot him dead on the spot;

then rifled him of his money and jewels, and threw the body into

the nearest river. With this booty he made off to a distant part

of the country.... He was at length admitted to a share of the

government of the town, and rose from one post to another, till at

length he was chosen to be chief magistrate.... One day as he sat

on the bench with some of his brethren in the magistracy, a

criminal was brought before him who was accused of murdering his

master. The evidence was full; the jury brought in their verdict

that the prisoner was guilty; and the whole assembly awaited the

sentence of the President of the court, which he happened to be on

that day.... At length coming down from the bench he placed

himself by the guilty man at the bar and made a full confession of

his own guilt, and of all its aggravations.... We may easily

suppose the great amazement of all the assembly, and especially of

his fellow-judges. They proceeded, however, upon this confession,

to pass sentence upon him, and he died with all the symptoms of

penitent mind."

J. K.

ENGLISH LITERATURE IN THE NORTH.

English letters are exciting a daily increasing interest in the north of

Europe--that hardy and romantic country whence we ourselves are

descended. But their means for purchase are very scanty, and I have been

requested by the chief librarians of the Royal Library, Stockholm, and

the University Library, Copenhagen, to endeavour to procure them English

books _by gift_ from private individuals and public societies and

libraries.

Can you assist me in this work by making this their prayer known in your

widely-spread columns?

Any English works, large or small, old or new, in any department of

literature, but especially in archæology, folk-lore, history, theology,

belles-lettres, &c., particularly books _privately printed_, or

otherwise scarce or dear, will be most acceptable. Every donor will

have the goodness to state for which library his gift is intended. So

many have duplicates, or copies of books, which they no longer use or

need, that many will doubtless be able to assist in this pleasant

book-gathering for our Scandinavian cousins.

GEORGE STEPHENS,

Professor of English Literature in the

University of Copenhagen.

Mill Farm, Barnes, Surrey, July, 1851.

[We have good reason to know the great interest which our

Scandinavian brethren take in the literature of this country, and

hope this appeal of MR. STEPHENS will be liberally responded to.

Any donations for the libraries in question, which, we believe,

are both public libraries, may be left for him at the office of

"NOTES AND QUERIES."]

Minor Queries.

1. _Painted Prints of Overton._--In Vol. iii., pp. 324, 325., under the

title "The Bellman and his History," are quoted some lines from Gay's

_Trivia_, book ii. p. 482. The last line is--

"The colour'd prints of Overton appear."

Who was Overton, and what were his prints that Gay in these lines makes

the companions of the bellman's song?

F. L. H.

2. _Fourth Fare._--In the accounts of the churchwardens of St. Edmund's,

Sarum, temp. Edw. IV., this item often occurs, for which a payment was

made. Does it not mean the dying knell, from the German "to depart."

H. T. E.

Clyst St. George, June 3. 1851.

3. _John Wood, Architect._--Can any of your readers inform me if any

likeness is in existence of the author of _An Essay towards a

Description of Bath_? or if any of his descendants are still living? He

built the Bristol Exchange; and Bath is indebted to him for many of its

most noble edifices. He was a magistrate for the county of Somerset, and

died in 1754.

GAMMA.

4. _Derivation of "Spon."_--Can you or your readers give me a derivation

of the word "spon," in its application to street names? There is "Spon

End," and also "Spon Street," in Coventry, "Spon Lane" at West Bromwich,

and "Spon Terrace" at Birmingham. Can you supply any other instances?

Mr. Halliwell merely says, "_Spon_, a shaving of wood;" and it is used

in this sense in Scott's _Sir Tristrem_, p. 119.:

"Bi water he sent adoun

Light linden spon."

C. H. B.

Clarence Street, Islington.

5. _Dell, in what County?_--I shall feel obliged if any of your

correspondents can tell me whereabouts this place is, and in what

county?

J. N. C.

6. _Bummaree or Bumaree._--There is a large class of salesmen in

Billingsgate Market not recognised as such by the trade, but styled

Bumarees, who get a living by purchasing large parcels of fish of the

factor or common salesman, and selling it out in smaller quantities to

the fishmongers and other retailing buyers. This whole-sale retailing of

fish is also called bummareeing it, hence the name of these

(self-styled) salesmen.

I have not been able to find any clue to the meaning of this word thus

used in any authority that I possess, though the word has been

recognised in statutes and bye-laws of the markets for upwards of one

hundred years.

As I feel very interested in this matter, may I be allowed to call the

attention of some of your very learned correspondents to this matter,

and ask for the probable etymology and exact orthography of the word.

I have been informed that the only other use of the word known is with

the confectioners, who use _Bummaree_ pans.

The prefix "bum" is used to express the lowest of the kind in

bum-bailiff, and also further additionally in connexion with selling in

"bum-boat." I cannot think that "bona venalia," goods set to sale, among

the Romans, give any clue to Bummaree. This, and other derivations

equally unsatisfactory, have been submitted by those who have hitherto

directed their attention to this subject.

BLOWEN.

7. _Thread the Needle._--What is the game so called? and what its

origin?

In it these words occur:

"How far hence to Hebron?

Threescore miles and ten!

Can I be there to-night?

Yes! and back again!"

I have somewhere seen the name of Thread-the-Needle-Gate. Where is, or

was, it? and whence was the London street so named?

R. S. H.

Morwenstow.

8. _Proof of a Sword._--Is the following statement correct and true (I

mean, as to the trial of the sword blade, not the anecdote)?

"A troop of horse are riding along under the command of 'Duke

William' of Cumberland, in the '45. A little old Highlander joins

the march; a strong lusty soldier laughs at, and insults him. He

is allowed to demand satisfaction, and fight it out at once: he

craves the loan of a sword; one is handed to him. But Donald had

seen too many snows to trust his life to the blade of untried

metal: he minutely examined the handle, the edge, the point, and

the _spring_, and finally turning aside to _a pool_ of water, and

applying the _flat_ side of the blade to its surface, with one

smart stroke broke it in two."

Is this a good test of a sword blade? Would _any_ sword stand it?

Would the Toledo blade, at the Crystal Palace, that _rolls_ up into the

form of a serpent, bear it?

What is the usual test of a good blade?

ENSIS.

9. _Shelley's Children._--Are any of Shelley's children, by his first

wife, still living and where?--a friend of mine, who was her companion,

having a relic of her, which she would gladly give into their

possession.

PHILO.

10. _Ackey Trade._--I have in my cabinet a silver coin (shilling size)

which has on the obverse, besides the bust of the kind, the date 1818,

and the legend, the following under the head (between it and the

legend), "_½ Ackey Trade_;" and I shall be glad to have an explanation

of what is meant by the "_Ackey Trade_?" The reverse has the arms and

crest of the African Company. The legend is "Free Trade to Africa by Act

of Parliament, 1750."

J. N. C.

11. _Baskerville the Printer._--I was informed in 1835, by a friend

living at Birmingham, that the coffin containing the body of that

celebrated printer was then lying in a timber yard in that town under a

pile of deals--a fact which was well known there.

Is it still in the same place? And why? And is there any portrait,

engraved or otherwise, of him? Mr. Merridew of Coventry, and others,

have assured me there was not.

G. C.

12. _Statue of Charles II._--What became of the fine statue of Charles

II. on horseback which formerly stood in Stock's Market, the site of the

present Mansion House?

It was placed on a conduit at the "sole cost and charges of that worthy

citizen and alderman Sir Robert Viner, Bart." I have seen a print of it,

folio. (London, pub. 1708.)

G. CREED.

13. _La Mère Jeanne._--In Hallam's _Literature of Europe_, 2nd edition,

vol. i. p. 461., I read this passage:--

Two crude Attempts at introducing the Eastern tongues were made

soon afterwards (1530). One of these was by William Postel, a man

of some parts, and more reading; but chiefly known, while he was

remembered at all, for mad reveries of fanaticism, and an

idolatrous veneration for a saint of his own manufacture, La Mère

Jeanne, the Joanna Southcote of the sixteenth century."

Has any account of the character and proceedings of "La Mère Jeanne"

been handed down to us; and, if so, where is it to be found?

HENRY H. BREEN.

St. Lucia, June, 1851.

14. _Man of War, why a Ship of War so called._--Will any of your readers

inform me the origin of a ship of a certain number of guns being called

"a man of war?" In Shakspeare the term is applied to Falstaff: Davy

inquires of Shallow:

"Doth the man of war stay all night, Sir?"

And it is singular to remark, in the same scene, the first of Act V.,

the Second Part of _Henry IV._, that the dinner ordered by Shallow for

Falstaff is just such as any country gentleman would now provide for an

unexpected guest:--

Some pigeons, Davy; a couple of short-legged hens; a joint of

mutton; and any pretty little tiny kickshaws, tell William cook."

The only difference is the sex of the cook, as country gentlemen in

these days have females in that capacity.

AN M. D.

15. _Secret Service Money of Charles II._--In Mr. Akerman's preface to

this work, just published by the Camden Society, I find this passage:

"Amongst these (sums lavished on female favourites) the payments

to the Duchess of Portsmouth are most conspicuous. No less a sum

than 136,688_l._ 10_s._ appears to have been bestowed by the

profligate monarch on this woman _within the space of one

year_."--See _Payments under the year 1681_, p. 42.

Now, on turning to the year and page designated, I find that the _whole

of the class_ in which the Duchess's name appears amounts for _that

year_ only to about 22,000_l._, of which the Duchess of Portsmouth

appears to have received about 12,000 in several quarterly payments on

account of an annual pension or pensions of that amount: so in other

years. This is a very different sum from 136,000_l._ I would beg leave

to inquire of the editor, or of any of your _Camdenite_ correspondents,

whether there is an error in Mr. Akerman's statement, or only in my way

of reading it?

C.

16. _Hampton Court._--Miss Strickland, in the _Queens of England_, after

saying that the Queen (Elizabeth of York, Henry VII.'s wife) had stayed

at Hampton Court eight days, continues:

"It is worth noticing that Hampton Court was a favourite residence

of Elizabeth of York long before Cardinal Wolsey had it."

Now, in the _Gentleman's Magazine_ for January, 1834, is a copy of the

lease from the prior of St. John of Jerusalem to Cardinal Wolsey of

their manor of Hampton Court, it having been in the possession of the

Knights Hospitallers of St. John since 1211, when Joan Lady Grey left it

by will to that order. Where, then, was Elizabeth of York's residence?

Did she hold a lease of the manor and manor-house of Hampton of the

Knights Hospitallers? Or was there another royal residence in that

locality?

TEE BEE.

Minor Queries Answered.

_De Rebus Hibernicis._--1. Silvester Giraldus Cambrensis, born in Wales,

A.D. 1145, was the author of numerous works. Can any one furnish a list

of them?

2. What is the date of the _Annals of the Four Masters_?

3. Who was Tigernach, and when did he live?

4. What are the _Annals of Ulster_, and when were they written?

WILLIAM E. C. NOURSE.

[1. The printed works, as well as the manuscript collections, of

Giraldus, are so numerous, and deposited in so many different

libraries, that we must refer our correspondent to Sir R. C.

Hoare's description of them in his Introduction to the translation

of Giraldus' _Itinerary of Archbishop Baldwin through Wales_, vol.

i. pp. liv.-lxxii. 4to. 1806.

2. _The Annals of Dunagall_, otherwise called _The Annals of the

Four Masters_, were compiled between A.D. 1632 and 1636. From a

MS. in the Duke of Buckingham's library at Stowe, Dr. O'Conor

published the first part of these _Annals_, extending from the

earliest period to A.D. 1172, in his _Rerum Hibernicarum

Scriptores_. The latter portion has since been edited, with a

translation and notes, by John O'Donovan, Esq., M.R.I.A., in 3

vols. 4to.

3. Tigernach was Abbot of Cluain-mac-nois, and died A.D. 1088. He

wrote the _Annals of Ireland_, from A.M. 3596 to his own time.

4. _The Annals of Ulster_ were compiled by Cathald Mac Magnus

(Charles Maguire), who died A.D. 1498. They commence with the

reign of Feradach Fionnfachtnach, monarch of Ireland, A.D. 60, and

are carried down to the author's own time. They were afterwards

continued to the year 1504, by Roderick O'Cassidy, Archdeacon of

Clogher. See O' Reilly's _Chronological Account of Irish

Writers_.]

_Abridgment of the Assizes._--Where can one see, or what is the correct

title of the book containing _Abridgment of the Assizes, and Iters of

Pickring and Lancaster_? It is referred to in Manwood _on Forest Laws_.

S. S.

[Richard Tottle, dwelling at the Hand and Star in Fleet Street,

and who was "licensed to print all manner of books touching the

common laws of England," published in the middle of the sixteenth

century the following work:--"_The Abridgment of the Book of

Assises_, lately perused over and corrected, and now newely

imprinted by Richard Tottle, the last day of September, 1555." It

is probable that the _Iters of Pickring and Lancaster_ are still

in manuscript.]

_Life of Cromwell._--I have in my possession a _Life of Cromwell_,

written by R. B. "without passion or partiality," printed by N. Crouch

in the Poultry, 1715. Query, who was this R. B.?

PHILO.

[The author was Richard or Robert Burton, _alias_ Nathaniel

Crouch, who, says Dunton in his _Life and Errors_, "melted down

the best of our English histories into twelve penny books, which

are filled with wonders, rarities, and curiosities." The first

edition of _The History of Cromwell_ was published in 1693,

"relating only matters of fact without reflection or

observation."]

Replies.

WRITTEN SERMONS AND EXTEMPORE PREACHING.

(Vol. iii., pp. 478. 526.; Vol. iv., p. 8.)

Your versatile correspondent MR. GATTY has been led astray by an

incorrect assertion of Bingham's (magni nominis vir), that Origen was

the first who preached extempore. The passage to which Bingham refers

us, in Eusebius, asserts nothing of this sort; but simply that Origen

would not suffer his sermons to be taken down by the short-hand writers

till he was sixty years old,--a sufficient proof, if any were needed,

that the custom of taking down sermons by notaries in the third century

was not unusual.

Some rogue has stolen my Number of the "NOTES AND QUERIES" in which the

inquiry on the subject of written sermons was made; but, if I remember

rightly, the _question_ was put correctly, it having been asked when

written sermons were first preached. As I at one time took some pains to

look into this point, and as no one else seems inclined to take it up,

perhaps you will allow me space for a few remarks.

1. I suppose no one will be disposed to question the extreme

improbability of the "sermons" in the Apostolic are having been

_written_ discourses: if, however, this be considered doubtful, I am

willing to argue the point, and be set right if I am wrong in thinking

it unquestionable.

2. I believe it is almost as improbable, that in what Professor Brunt

calls the "post-Apostolic" times sermons were written, not only from the

complete silence of the Apostolic Fathers on the point--for that would

really prove next to nothing,--but because it seems quite incredible

that no vestige of any such sermon should have come down to us; no

forgery of one, no legend or tradition of the existence of one if the

practice of writing sermons had prevailed at all.

3. In the Apologies of Justin and Tertullian [Justin, ed. Otto, i. 270.;

Tertullian, _Ap._ ch. xxxix.] there is a description of the addresses

delivered in the congregations of their times, which appears to me to

prove that they knew of no such practice as reading a sermon and the

passage from Origen contra Cels., which De la Cerda gives in his note on

Tertullian, though it is only quoted in the Latin, surely shows the same

(vol. i. p. 190.). I came across something of the sort in Cyprian about

two years ago and, if I may dare trust my memory, it appeared to me at

the time to be more satisfactory than the passages above referred to;

but I made no note of it,--and I was hunting for other game when I met

with it. Still, if your querist is going into the subject as a student

into a matter of history, I dare stay I could find the paragraph.

4. I have really no acquaintance with the post-Nicene fathers, the mere

desultory reading out of some few of the works of the Arian period

counting for something less than nothing; but, as far as secondary

sources are to be trusted, I certainly never met with anything that

would lead me to conclude that sermons were ever read in the fourth or

fifth centuries. [I shall come to the only shadow of an argument in

favour of such a practice having prevailed so early, presently.]

Certainly, St. Ambrose, St. Augustine, St. Chrysostom, St. Cyril of

Jerusalem, were extempore preachers by Bingham's showing. Gregory the

Great, much later, for all that appears to the contrary, never wrote his

sermons at all, and even preached his homilies on Ezekiel almost without

any preparation. Indeed the prevalence of that most abominable system of

applauding the preacher, which St. Chrysostom protests against in the

magnificent sermon on 1Cor.xiv.38., could scarcely have been universal

where sermons were read.

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