It is thus that the democratic Socialist, Thoré expresses himself:--

"The revolution will always have to be recommenced, so long as we occupy

ourselves with consequences only, without having the logic or the

courage to attack the principle itself. This principle is capital, false

property, interest, and usury, which by the old _régime_, is made to

weigh upon labour.

"Ever since the aristocrats invented the incredible fiction, _that

capital possesses the power of reproducing itself_, the workers have

been at the mercy of the idle.

"At the end of a year, will you find an additional crown in a bag of one

hundred shillings? At the end of fourteen years, will your shillings

have doubled in your bag?

"Will a work of industry or of skill produce another, at the end of

fourteen years?

"Let us begin, then, by demolishing this fatal fiction."

I have quoted the above, merely for the sake of establishing the fact,

that many persons consider the productiveness of capital a false, a

fatal, and an iniquitous principle. But quotations are superfluous; it

is well known that the people attribute their sufferings to what they

call _the trafficking in man by man_. In fact, the phrase, _tyranny of

capital_, has become proverbial.

I believe there is not a man in the world, who is aware of the whole

importance of this question:--

"Is the interest of capital natural, just, and lawful, and as useful to

the payer as to the receiver?"

You answer, No; I answer, Yes. Then we differ entirely; but it is of the

utmost importance to discover which of us is in the right, otherwise we

shall incur the danger of making a false solution of the question, a

matter of opinion. If the error is on my side, however, the evil would

not be so great. It must be inferred that I know nothing about the true

interests of the masses, or the march of human progress; and that all my

arguments are but as so many grains of sand, by which the car of the

revolution will certainly not be arrested.

But if, on the contrary, MM. Proudhon and Thoré are deceiving

themselves, it follows that they are leading the people astray--that

they are showing them the evil where it does not exist; and thus giving

a false direction to their ideas, to their antipathies, to their

dislikes, and to their attacks. It follows that the misguided people are

rushing into a horrible and absurd struggle, in which victory would be

more fatal than defeat; since, according to this supposition, the result

would be the realisation of universal evils, the destruction of every

means of emancipation, the consummation of its own misery.

This is just what M. Proudhon has acknowledged, with perfect good

faith. "The foundation stone," he told me, "of my system is the

_gratuitousness of credit_. If I am mistaken in this, Socialism is a

vain dream." I add, it is a dream, in which the people are tearing

themselves to pieces. Will it, therefore, be a cause for surprise, if,

when they awake, they find themselves mangled and bleeding? Such a

danger as this is enough to justify me fully, if, in the course of the

discussion, I allow myself to be led into some trivialities and some

prolixity.

Capital and Interest.

I address this treatise to the workmen of Paris, more especially to

those who have enrolled themselves under the banner of Socialist

democracy. I proceed to consider these two questions:--

1st. Is it consistent with the nature of things, and with justice, that

capital should produce interest?

2nd. Is it consistent with the nature of things, and with justice, that

the interest of capital should be perpetual?

The working men of Paris will certainly acknowledge that a more

important subject could not be discussed.

Since the world began, it has been allowed, at least in part, that

capital ought to produce interest. But latterly it has been affirmed,

that herein lies the very social error which is the cause of pauperism

and inequality. It is, therefore, very essential to know now on what

ground we stand.

For if levying interest from capital is a sin, the workers have a right

to revolt against social order, as it exists. It is in vain to tell them

that they ought to have recourse to legal and pacific means: it would be

a hypocritical recommendation. When on the one side there is a strong

man, poor, and a victim of robbery--on the other, a weak man, but rich,

and a robber--it is singular enough that we should say to the former,

with a hope of persuading him, "Wait till your oppressor voluntarily

renounces oppression, or till it shall cease of itself." This cannot be;

and those who tell us that capital is by nature unproductive, ought to

know that they are provoking a terrible and immediate struggle.

If, on the contrary, the interest of capital is natural, lawful,

consistent with the general good, as favourable to the borrower as to

the lender, the economists who deny it, the tribunes who traffic in this

pretended social wound, are leading the workmen into a senseless and

unjust struggle, which can have no other issue than the misfortune of

all. In fact, they are arming labour against capital. So much the

better, if these two powers are really antagonistic; and may the

struggle soon be ended! But, if they are in harmony, the struggle is the

greatest evil which can be inflicted on society. You see, then, workmen,

that there is not a more important question than this:--"Is the interest

of capital lawful or not?" In the former case, you must immediately

renounce the struggle to which you are being urged; in the second, you

must carry it on bravely, and to the end.

Productiveness of capital--perpetuity of interest. These are difficult

questions. I must endeavour to make myself clear. And for that purpose I

shall have recourse to example rather than to demonstration; or rather,

I shall place the demonstration in the example. I begin by acknowledging

that, at first sight, it may appear strange that capital should pretend

to a remuneration, and above all, to a perpetual remuneration. You will

say, "Here are two men. One of them works from morning till night, from

one year's end to another; and if he consumes all which he has gained,

even by superior energy, he remains poor. When Christmas comes he is no

forwarder than he was at the beginning of the year, and has no other

prospect but to begin again. The other man does nothing, either with his

hands or his head; or at least, if he makes use of them at all, it is

only for his own pleasure; it is allowable for him to do nothing, for he

has an income. He does not work, yet he lives well; he has everything in

abundance; delicate dishes, sumptuous furniture, elegant equipages; nay,

he even consumes, daily, things which the workers have been obliged to

produce by the sweat of their brow, for these things do not make

themselves; and, as far as he is concerned, he has had no hand in their

production. It is the workmen who have caused this corn to grow,

polished this furniture, woven these carpets; it is our wives and

daughters who have spun, cut out, sewed, and embroidered these stuffs.

We work, then, for him and for ourselves; for him first, and then for

ourselves, if there is anything left. But here is something more

striking still. If the former of these two men, the worker, consumes

within the year any profit which may have been left him in that year, he

is always at the point from which he started, and his destiny condemns

him to move incessantly in a perpetual circle, and a monotony of

exertion. Labour, then, is rewarded only once. But if the other, the

'gentleman,' consumes his yearly income in the year, he has, the year

after, in those which follow, and through all eternity, an income always

equal, inexhaustible, _perpetual_. Capital, then, is remunerated, not

only once or twice, but an indefinite number of times! So that, at the

end of a hundred years, a family which has placed 20,000 francs,[1] at

five per cent., will have had 100,000 francs; and this will not prevent

it from having 100,000 more, in the following century. In other words,

for 20,000 francs, which represent its labour, it will have levied, in

two centuries, a tenfold value on the labour of others. In this social

arrangement, is there not a monstrous evil to be reformed? And this is

not all. If it should please this family to curtail its enjoyments a

little--to spend, for example, only 900 francs, instead of 1,000--it

may, without any labour, without any other trouble beyond that of

investing 100 francs a year, increase its capital and its income in such

rapid progression, that it will soon be in a position to consume as much

as a hundred families of industrious workmen. Does not all this go to

prove that society itself has in its bosom a hideous cancer, which ought

to be eradicated at the risk of some temporary suffering?"

These are, it appears to me, the sad and irritating reflections which

must be excited in your minds by the active and superficial crusade

which is being carried on against capital and interest. On the other

hand, there are moments in which, I am convinced, doubts are awakened in

your minds, and scruples in your conscience. You say to yourselves

sometimes, "But to assert that capital ought not to produce interest, is

to say that he who has created instruments of labour, or materials, or

provisions of any kind, ought to yield them up without compensation. Is

that just? And then, if it is so, who would lend these instruments,

these materials, these provisions? who would take care of them? who even

would create them? Every one would consume his proportion, and the human

race would never advance a step. Capital would be no longer formed,

since there would be no interest in forming it. It would become

exceedingly scarce. A singular step towards gratuitous loans! A singular

means of improving the condition of borrowers, to make it impossible for

them to borrow at any price! What would become of labour itself? for

there will be no money advanced, and not one single kind of labour can

be mentioned, not even the chase, which can be pursued without money in

hand. And, as for ourselves, what would become of us? What! we are not

to be allowed to borrow, in order to work in the prime of life, nor to

lend, that we may enjoy repose in its decline? The law will rob us of

the prospect of laying by a little property, because it will prevent us

from gaining any advantage from it. It will deprive us of all stimulus

to save at the present time, and of all hope of repose for the future.

It is useless to exhaust ourselves with fatigue: we must abandon the

idea of leaving our sons and daughters a little property, since modern

science renders it useless, for we should become traffickers in men if

we were to lend it on interest. Alas! the world which these persons

would open before us, as an imaginary good, is still more dreary and

desolate than that which they condemn, for hope, at any rate, is not

banished from the latter." Thus, in all respects, and in every point of

view, the question is a serious one. Let us hasten to arrive at a

solution.

Our civil code has a chapter entitled, "On the manner of transmitting

property." I do not think it gives a very complete nomenclature on this

point. When a man by his labour has made some useful thing--in other

words, when he has created a _value_--it can only pass into the hands of

another by one of the following modes--as a gift, by the right of

inheritance, by exchange, loan, or theft. One word upon each of these,

except the last, although it plays a greater part in the world than we

may think. A gift needs no definition. It is essentially voluntary and

spontaneous. It depends exclusively upon the giver, and the receiver

cannot be said to have any right to it. Without a doubt, morality and

religion make it a duty for men, especially the rich, to deprive

themselves voluntarily of that which they possess, in favour of their

less fortunate brethren. But this is an entirely moral obligation. If it

were to be asserted on principle, admitted in practice, or sanctioned by

law, that every man has a right to the property of another, the gift

would have no merit--charity and gratitude would be no longer virtues.

Besides, such a doctrine would suddenly and universally arrest labour

and production, as severe cold congeals water and suspends animation;

for who would work if there was no longer to be any connection between

labour and the satisfying of our wants? Political economy has not

treated of gifts. It has hence been concluded that it disowns them, and

that it is therefore a science devoid of heart. This is a ridiculous

accusation. That science which treats of the laws resulting from the

_reciprocity of services_, had no business to inquire into the

consequences of generosity with respect to him who receives, nor into

its effects, perhaps still more precious, on him who gives: such

considerations belong evidently to the science of morals. We must allow

the sciences to have limits; above all, we must not accuse them of

denying or undervaluing what they look upon as foreign to their

department.

The right of inheritance, against which so much has been objected of

late, is one of the forms of gift, and assuredly the most natural of

all. That which a man has produced, he may consume, exchange, or give.

What can be more natural than that he should give it to his children? It

is this power, more than any other, which inspires him with courage to

labour and to save. Do you know why the principle of right of

inheritance is thus called in question? Because it is imagined that the

property thus transmitted is plundered from the masses. This is a fatal

error. Political economy demonstrates, in the most peremptory manner,

that all value produced is a creation which does no harm to any person

whatever. For that reason it may be consumed, and, still more,

transmitted, without hurting any one; but I shall not pursue these

reflections, which do not belong to the subject.

Exchange is the principal department of political economy, because it is

by far the most frequent method of transmitting property, according to

the free and voluntary agreements of the laws and effects of which this

science treats.

Properly speaking, exchange is the reciprocity of services. The parties

say between themselves, "Give me this, and I will give you that;" or,

"Do this for me, and I will do that for you." It is well to remark (for

this will throw a new light on the notion of value) that the second

form is always implied in the first. When it is said, "Do this for me,

and I will do that for you," an exchange of service for service is

proposed. Again, when it is said, "Give me this, and I will give you

that," it is the same as saying, "I yield to you what I have done, yield

to me what you have done." The labour is past, instead of present; but

the exchange is not the less governed by the comparative valuation of

the two services: so that it is quite correct to say that the principle

of _value_ is in the services rendered and received on account of the

productions exchanged, rather than in the productions themselves.

In reality, services are scarcely ever exchanged directly. There is a

medium, which is termed _money_. Paul has completed a coat, for which he

wishes to receive a little bread, a little wine, a little oil, a visit

from a doctor, a ticket for the play, &c. The exchange cannot be

effected in kind, so what does Paul do? He first exchanges his coat for

some money, which is called _sale_; then he exchanges this money again

for the things which he wants, which is called _purchase_; and now,

only, has the reciprocity of services completed its circuit; now, only,

the labour and the compensation are balanced in the same individual,--"I

have done this for society, it has done that for me." In a word, it is

only now that the exchange is actually accomplished. Thus, nothing can

be more correct than this observation of J. B. Say:--"Since the

introduction of money, every exchange is resolved into two elements,

_sale_ and _purchase_. It is the reunion of these two elements which

renders the exchange complete."

We must remark, also, that the constant appearance of money in every

exchange has overturned and misled all our ideas: men have ended in

thinking that money was true riches, and that to multiply it was to

multiply services and products. Hence the prohibitory system; hence

paper money; hence the celebrated aphorism, "What one gains the other

loses;" and all the errors which have ruined the earth, and embrued it

with blood.[2] After much research it has been found, that in order to

make the two services exchanged of equivalent value, and in order to

render the exchange _equitable_, the best means was to allow it to be

free. However plausible, at first sight, the intervention of the State

might be, it was soon perceived that it is always oppressive to one or

other of the contracting parties. When we look into these subjects, we

are always compelled to reason upon this maxim, that _equal value_

results from liberty. We have, in fact, no other means of knowing

whether, at a given moment, two services are of the same value, but that

of examining whether they can be readily and freely exchanged. Allow the

State, which is the same thing as force, to interfere on one side or the

other, and from that moment all the means of appreciation will be

complicated and entangled, instead of becoming clear. It ought to be

the part of the State to prevent, and, above all, to repress artifice

and fraud; that is, to secure liberty, and not to violate it. I have

enlarged a little upon exchange, although loan is my principal object:

my excuse is, that I conceive that there is in a loan an actual

exchange, an actual service rendered by the lender, and which makes the

borrower liable to an equivalent service,--two services, whose

comparative value can only be appreciated, like that of all possible

services, by freedom. Now, if it is so, the perfect lawfulness of what

is called house-rent, farm-rent, interest, will be explained and

justified. Let us consider the case of _loan_.

Suppose two men exchange two services or two objects, whose equal value

is beyond all dispute. Suppose, for example, Peter says to Paul, "Give

me ten sixpences, I will give you a five-shilling piece." We cannot

imagine an equal value more unquestionable. When the bargain is made,

neither party has any claim upon the other. The exchanged services are

equal. Thus it follows, that if one of the parties wishes to introduce

into the bargain an additional clause, advantageous to himself, but

unfavourable to the other party, he must agree to a second clause, which

shall re-establish the equilibrium, and the law of justice. It would be

absurd to deny the justice of a second clause of compensation. This

granted, we will suppose that Peter, after having said to Paul, "Give me

ten sixpences, I will give you a crown," adds, "You shall give me the

ten sixpences _now_, and I will give you the crown-piece _in a year_;"

it is very evident that this new proposition alters the claims and

advantages of the bargain; that it alters the proportion of the two

services. Does it not appear plainly enough, in fact, that Peter asks of

Paul a new and an additional service; one of a different kind? Is it not

as if he had said, "Render me the service of allowing me to use for my

profit, for a year, five shillings which belong to you, and which you

might have used for yourself?" And what good reason have you to maintain

that Paul is bound to render this especial service gratuitously; that he

has no right to demand anything more in consequence of this requisition;

that the State ought to interfere to force him to submit? Is it not

incomprehensible that the economist, who preaches such a doctrine to the

people, can reconcile it with his principle of _the reciprocity of

services_? Here I have introduced cash; I have been led to do so by a

desire to place, side by side, two objects of exchange, of a perfect and

indisputable equality of value. I was anxious to be prepared for

objections; but, on the other hand, my demonstration would have been

more striking still, if I had illustrated my principle by an agreement

for exchanging the services or the productions themselves.

Suppose, for example, a house and a vessel of a value so perfectly equal

that their proprietors are disposed to exchange them even-handed,

without excess or abatement. In fact let the bargain be settled by a

lawyer. At the moment of each taking possession, the shipowner says to

the citizen, "Very well; the transaction is completed, and nothing can

prove its perfect equity better than our free and voluntary consent. Our

conditions thus fixed, I shall propose to you a little practical

modification. You shall let me have your house to-day, but I shall not

put you in possession of my ship for a year; and the reason I make this

demand of you is, that, during this year of _delay_, I wish to use the

vessel." That we may not be embarrassed by considerations relative to

the deterioration of the thing lent, I will suppose the shipowner to

add, "I will engage, at the end of the year, to hand over to you the

vessel in the state in which it is to-day." I ask of every candid man, I

ask of M. Proudhon himself, if the citizen has not a right to answer,

"The new clause which you propose entirely alters the proportion or the

equal value of the exchanged services. By it, I shall be deprived, for

the space of a year, both at once of my house and of your vessel. By it,

you will make use of both. If, in the absence of this clause, the

bargain was just, for the same reason the clause is injurious to me. It

stipulates for a loss to me, and a gain to you. You are requiring of me

a new service; I have a right to refuse, or to require of you, as a

compensation, an equivalent service." If the parties are agreed upon

this compensation, the principle of which is incontestable, we can

easily distinguish two transactions in one, two exchanges of service in

one. First, there is the exchange of the house for the vessel; after

this, there is the delay granted by one of the parties, and the

compensation correspondent to this delay yielded by the other. These two

new services take the generic and abstract names of _credit_ and

_interest_. But names do not change the nature of things; and I defy any

one to dare to maintain that there exists here, when all is done, a

service for a service, or a reciprocity of services. To say that one of

these services does not challenge the other, to say that the first ought

to be rendered gratuitously, without injustice, is to say that injustice

consists in the reciprocity of services,--that justice consists in one

of the parties giving and not receiving, which is a contradiction in

terms.

To give an idea of interest and its mechanism, allow me to make use of

two or three anecdotes. But, first, I must say a few words upon capital.

There are some persons who imagine that capital is money, and this is

precisely the reason why they deny its productiveness; for, as M. Thoré

says, crowns are not endowed with the power of reproducing themselves.

But it is not true that capital and money are the same thing. Before the

discovery of the precious metals, there were capitalists in the world;

and I venture to say that at that time, as now, everybody was a

capitalist, to a certain extent.

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