J. C. DANA presented the

REPORT OF THE COMMITTEE ON CO-OPERATION WITH THE NATIONAL EDUCATIONAL

ASSOCIATION.

Early last winter I secured from librarians, library assistants and

teachers about 25 brief articles on co-operation between libraries and

schools. These articles were written with special reference to teachers.

I made a descriptive list of them and sent this list to leading

educational journals in this country, with the request that the editors

thereof select from it one or more of the articles and publish them

prior to July 1, 1901. Largely through the kindness of Mr. Winship,

editor of the _Journal of Education_ of Boston, I got the promise of

publication of these articles from educational editors to the number of

25. The articles were duly sent out. I regret to have to report that I

have received notice of the publication of less than half a dozen of the

whole number. A few others may have been published, but the editors have

never notified me of the fact. The articles were brief and chiefly

written by persons prominent in library work in this country, they were

of general interest, and seemed to deserve publication. The fact that

they did not get it is to my mind somewhat indicative of the comparative

unimportance of libraries in the opinion of educational people of this

country.

Since coming here I have learned of another little incident which throws

some light on our relation to the educational profession of this

country. From the office of _Public Libraries_ the program of the

meeting of the library department of the N. E. A. at Detroit was sent to

32 leading educational journals in this country with the request that

they print it. Of these 32 papers two only printed the program as

requested, or at least two only printed it and gave due notice of the

fact.

From all this we may learn, as I have stated more than once before, that

libraries and librarians are as yet held in small esteem by the

educational people of this country. Our influence among them is not

great. It is not considered that we are connected in any important way

with educational work. This is the opinion held by the rank and file. I

believe this to be true in spite of the fact that the leaders of the N.

E. A. have themselves been more than generous to the library department.

Those leaders, largely through the influence of Mr. Hutchins of

Wisconsin, gave a special appropriation of over $500 to a committee of

this department for the publication of a report on the relation of

libraries and schools. This report has been quite widely circulated and

has been well received by both teachers and librarians. We owe that to

the N. E. A. We owe it to the appreciation of library work by the

leaders of the N. E. A. Nevertheless, taking the teaching profession at

large, I think it safe to assume that our experience with the

educational journals during the past winter is indicative of the

teacher's attitude toward libraries and their possible helpfulness in

the school room. This fact should not discourage us. On the contrary it

should stimulate us to make our collections and our work with them of

still more consequence until it becomes quite impossible for anyone in

the educational world to be ignorant of, or to fail to take advantage

of, the assistance to every day teaching work which we believe our

libraries can give.

It is quite difficult, of course, if not impossible, for us to produce

any great effect on the teachers of the present day save through

individual work in our respective communities. No one can ask for a

better opportunity to see the result of such work than I have had

myself. I have seen two or three hundred teachers in the course of four

or five years changed from an attitude of indifference toward the

library as an aid in every day school room work, to one of readiness not

to say eagerness, to take advantage of every opportunity the library

could possibly offer. Many other librarians have had similar

experiences. But this work does not go on rapidly enough to influence

the profession as a whole. The teaching profession as it now stands is,

as I have said, indifferent toward us. One thing we can do, and that is,

arouse an interest among those who are to become teachers. After

individual work in our own towns the best thing we can do, and

especially the best thing we can do as an association, is to stimulate

an interest in library training in the normal schools of this country.

Interest in this phase of practical work has increased very much in

normal schools the last few years. This is especially true in the west;

and perhaps more true in Wisconsin than in any other state.

Mr. Dewey has recently given this matter consideration and I shall be

much pleased if he will say something further by way of supplementing

this informal report of mine, on what has been done and what can be done

in normal schools toward interesting teachers in the use of libraries in

teaching.

MELVIL DEWEY: What Mr. Dana has said, though perhaps a little

discouraging in its tone, is pretty nearly the truth; but we ought to

remember this--the public school teachers and the other teachers of this

country are a badly overworked class. Many a man and woman has broken

down of nervous prostration in school, who has entered a library and

worked hard and kept well. Our friends on the school side of educational

work have a strain that comes from the disciplinary side. Worry kills

more than work, and teachers have to meet this question of discipline;

they have to take responsibility in the place of parents; they have an

interminable number of reports to fill out; they have a mass of

examination papers to read and deal with; and they have examinations to

make until they are driven almost wild. Now, we go to them and present

our case, our arguments for co-operation with the library. They admit

it; they are convinced of it; but they have not vital energy and force

enough to take up the matter and do much work in our cause. It is not

that they doubt. They won't question the high plane on which we want to

put the library, and they want to fulfil all their duties. I believe if

we were to change places and were put into their routine, the majority

of us would do just what they do--put it off until a more convenient

season. I think that is the real trouble with our teachers. They are

overworked, many of them; they are in certain ruts; and my suggestion is

to try to reach them when they begin their work, through the normal

schools. If we can get the normal school authorities to give the right

kind of instruction and the right kind of a start to the teachers, we

will accomplish a great deal more. We can do twice as much in working

with the student teacher; it is like working in plaster of paris--easy

while in a soft and plastic stage, but you leave it awhile and it

hardens. So I should say, in considering this report, that we ought not

to be discouraged. It is what we should expect, and we should turn our

attention to, doing all we can to reach the young teachers who are now

in a plastic state, ready to be moulded, but who in ten years will be

dominant forces in education.

Miss M. E. AHERN: I wish to call attention to the fact that the program

of the Library Department of the National Educational Association calls

for a greeting from some representative of the A. L. A., and I therefore

request, as secretary of that section and as an earnest member of the A.

L. A., that you appoint some member to carry such greetings to the

Library Department of the N. E. A.

It was voted that Mr. Crunden be appointed to represent the Library

Association at the N. E. A. meeting.

F. M. CRUNDEN: Touching the subject before this meeting, I want to

corroborate the statement made by Mr. Dana regarding the progress that

comes quickly if you once induce the teachers of a city to accept, even

in a small measure, the co-operation of the library. Only a few years

ago we almost had to beg the teachers to use our books. We had to offer

every inducement to them, and they did it, most of them, rather

reluctantly. Now the great majority of our schools use the library

books. Not long ago I asked three questions of the teachers using the

library in their work: What value do you place upon the library in

supplementary reading? What effect has it had thus far on the progress

of your pupils in their studies? Is it an aid to the pupils? All these

question were answered most satisfactorily to us. Several say the

library books are worth as much as any study in the curriculum, while

two of them say that the library books are worth all the rest. And

regarding discipline, the universal testimony is that the library is an

aid to the discipline. In the school where most reading is done, the

principal tells me that the problem of discipline has been practically

eliminated; they give no more thought to it, because the children are

interested and pleasantly occupied, so they do not get into mischief.

The library has aided in all studies, is the basis of language work, has

improved the language of the children, and has given an interest to the

school work that it did not have before. Now if the teachers can only

understand that this is going to lighten their work instead of

increasing it, they will accept the co-operation of the library.

Dr. CANFIELD: Just one word to express my appreciation of the fairness

with which Mr. Dewey put before you the position of the teachers and to

add this statement: You are all likely to forget that you determine the

lines of your own work and that a teacher's work is laid out for her by

other people, and it takes about all the time and strength of the pupil

to meet the immediate demands of the curriculum, which is often very

unwisely laid out. I want to add to that, as a proof of the interest

taken by teachers, I know of my personal knowledge that the teachers of

the high schools of New York have frequently placed their personal

endorsement upon library cards for the pupils they have sent to the

libraries and for whose books they are personally responsible. They

cannot prove their interest in any better way than that.

Mr. DANA: I just want a moment to correct a possible impression that I

was finding fault with the educational profession of this country. I was

not finding fault with them, but finding fault with ourselves. If we are

not yet a power to the teachers of this country, then it is our own

fault. We do not as yet understand our own fitness, especially in

relation to schools and reading in the schools, and we do not even know

what we want to do, or what books to recommend. We do not know what the

field of work in the schools is. How, then, can we expect to teach it;

to urge a thing in regard to which we are not yet free of all doubts?

The fault is our own possibly, and yet it is not all our own fault. It

is largely a question of necessary time.

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