The two men were conducted into an inner room where a man sat at a desk.

He was very dark, red-faced, and thin, with deep lines in his face, a

tight shut, receding mouth, and black, burning eyes. He reminded Somers

of the portraits of Abraham Lincoln, the same sunken cheeks and deep,

cadaverous lines and big black eyes. But this man, Willie Struthers,

lacked that look of humour and almost of sweetness that one can find in

Abraham Lincoln’s portraits. Instead, he was suspicious, and seemed as

if he were brooding an inner wrong.

He was a born Australian, had knocked about the continent, and spent

many years on the goldfields. According to report, he was just

comfortably well-off--not rich. He looked rather shabby, seedy; his

clothes had that look as if he had just thrown them on his back, after

picking them off the floor. Also one of his thin shoulders was

noticeably higher than the other. But he was a distinct Australian type,

thin, hollow-cheeked, with a brightish, brittle, red skin on his face,

and big, dark, incensed-looking eyes. He nodded to the two men as they

entered, but did not speak nor rise from the desk.

“This is Mr Somers,” said Jaz. “You’ve read his book on democracy.”

“Yes, I’ve read it,” said Struthers. “Take a seat.”

He spoke with a pronounced Australian accent--a bad cockney. He stared

at Somers for a few seconds, then looked away.

He asked the usual questions, how Richard liked Australia, how long he

had been there, how long he thought of staying. The two didn’t get into

any easy harmony.

Then he began to put a few shrewd questions concerning the Fascisti and

Socialisti in Italy, the appropriation of the land by the peasants, and

so on; then about Germany, the actual temper of the working people, the

quality of their patriotism since the war, and so on.

“You understand,” said Somers, “I don’t pretend to give anything but

personal impressions. I have no claim to knowledge, whatever.”

“That’s all right, Mr Somers. I want your impressions. What they call

knowledge is like any other currency, it’s liable to depreciate. Sound

valuable knowledge to-day may not be worth the paper it’s printed on

to-morrow--like the Austrian krone. We’re no slaves to facts. Give us

your impressions.”

He spoke with a peculiar kind of bitterness, that showed passion too.

They talked about Europe for some time. The man could listen: listen

with his black eyes too. Watchful, always watchful, as if he expected

some bird to fly suddenly out of the speaker’s face. He was

well-informed, and seemed to weigh and judge everything he heard as he

heard it.

“Why, when I left Europe it seemed to me socialism was losing ground

everywhere--in Italy especially. In 1920 it was quite a living, exciting

thing, in Italy. It made people insolent, usually, but it lifted them up

as well. Then it sort of fizzled down, and last year there was only the

smoke of it: and a nasty sort of disappointment and disillusion, a

grating sort of irritation. Florence, Siena--hateful! The Fascisti risen

up and taking on airs, all just out of a sort of spite. The Dante

festival at Florence, and the King there, for example. Just set your

teeth on edge, ugh!--with their ‘Savoia!’ All false and out of spite.”

“And what do you attribute that to, Mr Somers?”

“Why, I think the Socialists didn’t _quite_ believe in their own

socialism, so everybody felt let down. In Italy, particularly, it seemed

to me they were on the brink of a revolution. And the King was ready to

abdicate, and the Church was ready to make away with its possessions: I

know that. Everything ready for a flight. And then the Socialists

funked. They just funked. They daren’t make a revolution, because then

they’d be responsible for the country. And they _daren’t_. And so the

Fascisti, seeing the Socialists in a funk, got up and began to try to

kick their behinds.”

Mr Struthers nodded his head slowly.

“I suppose that is so,” he said. “I suppose that’s what it amounts to,

they didn’t believe in what they were doing. But then they’re a

childish, excitable people, with no stability.”

“But it seems to me socialism hasn’t got the spark in it to make a

revolution. Not in any country. It hasn’t got the spunk, either. There’s

no spunk in it.”

“What is there any spunk in?” asked the other man, a sort of bitter fire

corroding in his eyes. “Where do you find any spunk?”

“Oh, nowhere,” said Richard.

There was a silence. Struthers looked out of the window as if he didn’t

know what to say next, and he played irritably with a blotter on the

desk, with his right hand. Richard also sat uncomfortably silent.

“Nowhere any spunk?” said Struthers, in his flat, metallic voice.

“No,” said Richard.

And again the uncomfortable silence.

“There was plenty of spunk in the war,” said Struthers.

“Of a sort. And because they felt they _had_ to, not from choice.”

“And mayn’t they feel they _have_ to again?” said Struthers, smiling

rather grimly.

The two men eyed one another.

“What’ll make them?” asked Richard.

“Oh--circumstances.”

“Ah well--if circumstances.” Richard was almost rude. “I know if it was

a question of _war_ the majority of returned soldiers would join up in a

month--in a week. You hear it over and over again from the Diggers here.

The war was the only time they ever felt properly alive. But then they

moved because they hated the Germans--self-righteously hated them. And

they can’t quite bring it off, to hate the capitalist with a

self-righteous hate. They don’t hate him. They know that if they

themselves got a chance to make a pile of money and be capitalists,

they’d _jump_ at it. You can’t work up a hate, except on fear. And they

_don’t_ fear the capitalist, and you can’t make them. The most they’ll

do is sneer about him.”

Struthers still fidgetted with the blotter, with his thin, very-red,

hairy hand, and abstractedly stared at the desk in front of him.

“And what does all that mean, in your estimation, Mr Somers?” he asked

dryly, looking nervously up.

“That you’ll never get them to act. You’ll never get Labour, or any of

the Socialists, to make a revolution. They just won’t act. Only the

Anarchists might--and they’re too few.”

“I’m afraid they are growing more.”

“Are they? Of that I know nothing. I should have thought they were

growing fewer.”

Mr Struthers did not seem to hear this. At least he did not answer. He

sat with his head dropped, fingering the blotter, rather like a boy who

is being told things he hates to hear, but which he doesn’t deny.

At last he looked up, and the fighting look was in the front of his

eyes.

“It may be as you say, Mr Somers,” he replied. “Men may not be ready yet

for any great change. That does not make the change less inevitable.

It’s coming, and it’s got to come. If it isn’t here to-day, it will be

here next century, at least. Whatever you may say, the socialistic and

communal ideal is a great ideal, which will be fulfilled when men are

ready. We aren’t impatient. If revolution seems a premature jump--and

perhaps it does--then we can go on, step by step, towards where we

intend to arrive at last. And that is, State Ownership, and

International Labour Control. The General Confederation of Labour, as

perhaps you know, does not aim at immediate revolutions. It wants to

make the great revolution by degrees. Step by step, by winning political

victories in each country, by having new laws passed by our insistence,

we intend to advance more slowly, but more surely towards the goal we

have in sight.

“Now, Mr Somers, you are no believer in capitalism, and in this

industrial system as we have it. If I judge you correctly from your

writings, you are no lover of the great Washed Middle Classes. They are

more than washed, they are washed out. And I think in your writings you

say as much. You want a new spirit in society, a new bond between men.

You want a new bond between men. Well, so do I, so do we. We realise

that if we are going to go ahead we need first and foremost

_solidarity_. Where we fail in our present position is in our lack of

solidarity.

“And how are we to get it. You suggest us the answer in your writings.

We must have a new bond between men, the bond of real brotherhood. And

why don’t we find that bond sufficiently among us? Because we have been

brought up from childhood to mistrust ourselves and to mistrust each

other. We have been brought up in a kind of fetish worship. We are like

tribes of savages with their witch-doctors. And who are our

witch-doctors, our medicine men? Why, they are professors of science and

professors of medicine and professors of law and professors of religion,

all of whom thump on their tom-tom drums and overawe us and take us in.

And they take us in with the clever cry, ‘Listen to us, and you will get

on, get on, get on, you will rise up into the middle classes and become

one of the great washed.’

“The trick of this only educated men like yourself see through. The

working man can’t see through it. _He_ can’t see that, for every one

that _gets on_, you must have five hundred fresh slavers and toilers to

produce the graft. Tempt all men to get on, and it’s like holding a

carrot in front of five thousand asses all harnessed to your machine.

One ass gets the carrot, and all the others have done your pulling for

you.

“Now what we want is a new bond between fellow-men. We’ve got to knock

down the middle-class fetish and the middle-class medicine-men. But

you’ve got to build up as you knock down. You’ve got to build up the

real fellow-feeling between fellow-men. You’ve got to teach us working

men to trust one another, absolutely trust one another, and to take all

our trust away from the Great Washed and their medicine men who bleed us

like leeches. Let us mistrust them--but let us trust one another. First

and foremost, let us trust one another, we working men.

“Now Mr Somers, you are a working man’s son. You know what I’m talking

about. Isn’t it right, what I say? And isn’t it feasible?”

A strange glow had come into his large black eyes, something glistening

and half-sweet, fixing itself on you. You felt drawn towards a strange

sweetness--perhaps poisonous. Yet it touched Richard on one of his

quivering strings--the latent power that is in man to-day, to love his

near mate with a passionate, absolutely trusting love. Whitman says the

love of comrades. We say, the mate love. “He is my mate.” A depth of

unfathomed, unrealised love can go into that phrase! “My mate is waiting

for me,” a man says, and turns away from wife, children, mother and all.

The love of a man for his mate.

Now Richard knew what Struthers wanted. He wanted this love, this

mate-trust called into consciousness and highest honour. He wanted to

set it where Whitman tried to set his Love of Comrades. It was to be the

new tie between men, in the new democracy. It was to be the new

passional bond in the new society. The trusting love of a man for his

mate.

Our society is based on the family, the love of a man for his wife and

his children, or for his mother and brothers. The family is our social

bedrock and limit. Whitman said the next, broader, more unselfish rock

should be the Love of Comrades. The sacred relation of a man to his

mate, his fellow man.

If our society is going to develop a new great phase, developing from

where we stand now, it must accept this new relationship as the new

sacred social bond, beyond the family. You can’t make bricks without

straw. That is, you can’t hold together the friable mixture of modern

mankind without a new cohesive principle, a new unifying passion. And

this will be the new passion of a man’s absolute trust in his mate, his

love for his mate.

Richard knew this. But he had learned something else as well. He had

learned the great danger of the new passion, which as yet lay only half

realised and half recognised, half effective.

Human love, human trust, are always perilous, because they break down.

The greater the love, the greater the trust, and the greater the peril,

the greater the disaster. Because to place absolute trust on another

human being is in itself a disaster, both ways, since each human being

is a ship that must sail its own course, even if it go in company with

another ship. Two ships may sail together to the world’s end. But lock

them together in mid-ocean and try to steer both with one rudder, and

they will smash one another to bits. So it is when one individual seeks

absolutely to love, or trust, another. Absolute lovers always smash one

another, absolute trusters the same. Since man has been trying

absolutely to love women, and women to love man, the human species has

almost wrecked itself. If now we start a still further campaign of men

loving and absolutely trusting each other, comrades or mates, heaven

knows the horror we are laying up.

And yet, love is the greatest thing between human beings, men and women,

men and men, women and women, when it is love, when it happens. But when

human love starts out to lock individuals together, it is just courting

disaster.

Man-and-woman love is a disaster nowadays. What a holy horror

man-and-man love would be: mates or comrades!

What is it then that is wrong? Why, human beings _can’t_ absolutely love

one another. Each man _does_ kill the thing he loves, by sheer dint of

loving it. Is love then just a horror in life?

Ah no. This individuality which each of us has got and which makes him a

wayward, wilful, dangerous, untrustworthy quantity to every other

individual, because every individuality is bound to react at some time

against every other individuality, without exception--or else lose its

own integrity; because of the inevitable necessity of each individual to

react away from any other individual, at certain times, human love is

truly a relative thing, not an absolute. It _cannot_ be absolute.

Yet the human heart must have an absolute. It is one of the conditions

of being human. The only thing is the God who is the source of all

passion. Once go down before the God-passion and human passions take

their right rhythm. But human love without the God-passion always kills

the thing it loves. Man and woman virtually are killing each other with

the love-will now. What would it be when mates, or comrades, broke down

in their absolute love and trust? Because, without the polarised

God-passion to hold them stable at the centre, break down they would.

With no deep God who is source of all passion and life to hold them

separate and yet sustained in accord, the loving comrades would smash

one another, and smash all love, all feeling as well. It would be a rare

gruesome sight.

Any more love is a hopeless thing, till we have found again, each of us

for himself, the great dark God who alone will sustain us in our loving

one another. Till then, best not play with more fire.

Richard knew this, and it came to him again powerfully, under the dark

eyes of Mr Struthers.

“Yes,” he answered slowly. “I know what you mean, and you know I know.

And it’s probably your only chance of carrying Socialism through. I

don’t really know how much it is feasible. But--”

“Wait a minute, Mr Somers. You are the man I have been waiting for: all

except the but. Listen to me a moment further. You know our situation

here in Australia. You know that Labour is stronger here, perhaps, more

unopposed than in any country in the world. We might do anything. Then

why do we do nothing? You know as well as I do. Because there is no real

unifying principle among us. We’re not together, we aren’t one. And

probably you never _will_ be able to unite Australians on the wage

question and the State Ownership question alone. They don’t care enough.

It doesn’t really touch them emotionally. And they need to be touched

emotionally, brought together that way. Once that was done, we’d be a

grand, solid working-class people; grand, unselfish: a real _People_.

‘When wilt thou save the People, oh God of Israel, when?’ It looks as if

the God of Israel would never save them. We’ve got to save ourselves.

“Now you know quite well, Mr Somers, we’re an unstable, unreliable body

to-day, the Labour Party here in Australia. And why? Because in the

first place we haven’t got any voice. We want a voice. Think of it,

we’ve got no real Labour newspaper in Sydney--or in Australia. How _can_

we be united? We’ve no voice to call us together. And why don’t we have

a paper of our own? Well, why? Nobody has the initiative. What would be

the good, over here, of a grievance-airing rag like your London _Daily

Herald_? It wouldn’t be taken any more seriously than any other rag. It

would have no real effect. Australians are a good bit subtler and more

disillusioned than the English working classes. You can throw

Australians chaff, and they’ll laugh at it. They may even pretend to

peck it up. But all the time they _know_, and they’re not taken in. The

_Bulletin_ would soon help them out, if they were. They’ve got a natural

sarcastic turn, have the Australians. They’ll do imbecile things:

because one thing is pretty well as good as another, to them. They don’t

care.

“Then what’s the good starting another Red rag, if the bull won’t run at

it. And this Australian bull may play about with a red rag, but it won’t

get his real dander up.

“No, you’ve got to give them something to appeal to the deeper man in

them. That deeper man is waiting to be appealed to. And we’re waiting

for the right individual to come along to put the appeal to them.

“Now, Mr Somers, here’s your chance. I’m in a position to ask you, won’t

you help us to bring out a sincere, _constructive_ Socialist paper, not

a grievance airer, but a paper that calls to the constructive spirit in

men? Deep calleth to deep. And the trouble with us here is, no one calls

to our deeps, they lie there stagnant. I can’t do it, I’m too grimy. It

wants a deep, fresh nature, and I’m too stale.

“Now, Mr Somers, you’re the son of a working man. You were born of the

People. You haven’t turned your back on them, have you, now that you’re

a well-known gentleman?”

“No, no,” said Richard, laughing at the irony.

“Then here is your work before you. Come and breathe the breath of life

into us, through the printed word. Come and take charge of a true

People’s paper for us. We needn’t make it a daily. Make it a

twice-weekly. And let it appeal to the Australian, to his heart, for his

heart is the right place to appeal to. Let it breathe the new air of

trust and comradeship into us. We are ready for it: dying for it. Show

us how to _believe_ in one another, with all our hearts. Show us that

the issue isn’t just the wage issue, or who holds the money. It’s

brother-love at last, on which Christ’s Democracy is bound to rest. It’s

the living People. It is man to man at last.”

The red face of Willie Struthers seemed to glow with fire, and his

black eyes had a strange glisten as he watched Richard’s face. Richard’s

pale, sombre face showed that he was moved. There was a strange

excitement, a deep, exciting vibration in the air, as if something

secret were taking place. Jaz in his corner sat silent as a mouse, his

knees wide apart, his elbows on his knees, his head dropped. Richard’s

eyes at length met the black, excited, glistening eyes of the other man,

and he felt that something in the glisten was bearing him down, as a

snake bears down a bird. Himself the bird.

But his heart was big within him, swollen in his breast. Because in

truth he did love the working people, he did know them capable of a

great, generous love for one another. And he did also believe, in a way,

that they were capable of building up this great Church of Christ, the

great beauty of a People, upon the generous passion of mate-love. All

this theoretical socialism started by Jews like Marx, and appealing only

to the will-to-power in the masses, making money the whole crux, this

has cruelly injured the working people of Europe. For the working people

of Europe were generous by nature, and money was not their prime

passion. All this political socialism--all politics, in fact--have

conspired to make money the only god. It has been a great treacherous

conspiracy against the generous heart of the people. And that heart is

betrayed: and knows it.

Then can’t the injury be remedied? Can’t the working men be called back,

man to man, to a generous opening of the heart to one another, money

forgotten? Can’t a new great inspiration of belief in the love of mates

be breathed into the white Peoples of the world, and a new day be built

on this belief?

It can be done. It could be done. Only, the terrible stress, the strain

on the hearts of men, if as human beings the whole weight of the living

world is to rest on them. Each man with the poles of the world resting

on his heart. Men would go mad.

“You see,” stammered Richard, “it needs more than a belief of men in

each other.”

“But what else is there to believe in? Quacks? Medicine-men? Scientists

and politicians?”

“It _does_ need some sort of religion.”

“Well then--well then--the religious question is ticklish, especially

here in Australia. But all the churches are established on Christ. And

Christ says Love one another.”

Richard laughed suddenly.

“That makes Christ into another political agent,” he said.

“Well then--I’m not deep enough for these matters. But surely you know

how to square it with religion. Seems to me it _is_ religion--love one

another.”

“Without a God.”

“Well--as I say--it’s Christ’s teaching, and that ought to be God

enough.”

Richard was silent, his heart heavy. It all seemed so far from the dark

God he wished to serve, the God from whom the dark, sensual passion of

love emanates, not only the spiritual love of Christ. He wanted men once

more to refer the sensual passion of love sacredly to the great dark

God, the ithyphallic, of the first dark religions. And how could that be

done, when each dry little individual ego was just mechanically set

against any such dark flow, such ancient submission. As for instance

Willie Struthers at this minute, Struthers didn’t mind Christ. Christ

could easily be made to subserve his egoistic purpose. But the first,

dark, ithyphallic God whom men had once known so tremendous--Struthers

had no use for Him.

“I don’t think I can do it. I don’t think I’ve the right touch,” said

Richard slowly.

“Nay, Mr Somers, don’t you be a funker, now. This is the work you were

born for. Don’t leave us in the lurch.”

“I shouldn’t be doing what you want me to do.”

“Do what seems best to yourself. We’ll risk it. Make your own

conditions. I know as far as money goes you won’t be hard. But take the

job on, now. It’s been waiting for you, waiting for you to come out

here. Don’t funk at the last minute.”

“I won’t promise at this minute,” said Richard, rising to escape. “I

want to go now. I will tell you within a week. You might send me details

of your scheme for the paper. Will you? And I’ll think about it hard.”

Mr Struthers watched him as if he would read his soul. But Richard

wasn’t going to have his soul read by force.

“Very well. I’ll see you have the whole scheme of the proposal

to-morrow. I don’t think you’ll be able to run away from it.”

Richard was thankful to get out of Canberra Hall. It was like escaping

from one of the medical-examination rooms in the war. He and Jaz went in

silence down the crowded, narrow pavement of George Street, towards the

Circular Quay. Richard called at the General Post-office in Martin

Place. As he came out again, and stood on the steps folding the stamps

he had bought, seeing the sun down Pitt Street, the people hurrying, the

flowers at the corner, the pink spread of _Bulletins_ for sale at the

corner of George Street, the hansom-cabs and taxis standing peacefully

in the morning shadow of the post-office, suddenly the whole thing

switched right away from him. He hailed a hansom.

“Jaz,” he said, “I want to drive round the Botanical Gardens and round

the spit there--and I want to look at the peacocks and cockatoos.”

Jaz climbed in with him. “Right O!” said the cabby, hearing the order,

and they clock-clocked away up the hill to Macquarie Street.

“You know, Jaz,” said Richard, looking with joy at the blue harbour

inlet, where the Australian “fleet” lay rusting to bits, with a few gay

flags; “you know, Jaz, I shan’t do it. I shan’t do anything. I just

don’t care about it.”

“You don’t?” said Jaz, with a sudden winsome smile.

“I try to kid myself that I care about mankind and its destiny. And I

have fits of wistful love for the working men. But at the bottom I’m as

hard as a mango nut. I don’t care about them all. I don’t really care

about anything, no I don’t. I just don’t care, so what’s the good of

fussing.”

“Why no,” said Jaz, again with a quick smile.

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