Vovo yawned and said, "How long are we going to be in here?"

"I don't know. Up to us, I suppose."

"Yes. How about another drink? I'll make it. How much of that cola stuff

do you put in?"

Jim told him, and while the other was on his feet mixing the drinks,

said, "You figure on sticking to the same line this year?"

"Have to," Vovo said over his shoulder. "What's the alternative?"

"I don't know. We're building up to a whale of a depression as it is,

even with half the economy running full blast producing defense

materials."

Vovo chuckled, "Defense materials. I wonder if ever in the history of

the human race anyone ever admitted to producing _offense_ materials."

"Well, you call it the same thing. All your military equipment is for

defense. And, of course, according to your press, all ours is for

offense."

"Of course," Vovo said.

He brought the glasses back and handed one to the other. He slumped back

into his chair again, loosened two buttons of his trousers.

"Jim," Vovo said, "why don't you divert more of your economy to public

works, better roads, reforestation, dams--that sort of thing."

Jim said wearily, "You're a better economist than that. Didn't your boy

Marx, or was it Engels, write a small book on the subject? We're already

overproducing--turning out more products than we can sell."

"I wasn't talking about your government building new steel mills. But

dams, roads, that sort of thing. You could plow billions into such items

and get some real use out of them. We both know that our weapons will

never be used--they can't be."

Jim ticked them off on his fingers. "We already are producing more farm

products than we know what to do with; if we build more dams it'll open

up new farm lands and increase the glut. If we build more and better

roads, it will improve transportation, which will mean fewer men will be

able to move greater tonnage--and throw transportation employees into

the unemployed. If we go all out for reforestation, it will eventually

bring down the price of lumber and the lumber people are howling

already. No," he shook his head, "there's just one really foolproof way

of disposing of surpluses and using up labor power and that's war--hot

or cold."

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