CHAPTER XXVI.

PLATO, AND THE OTHER COMPANIONS OF SOKRATES.

PLATO,

AND THE

OTHER COMPANIONS OF SOKRATES.

BY

GEORGE GROTE

AUTHOR OF THE 'HISTORY OF GREECE'.

_A NEW EDITION._

IN FOUR VOLUMES.

VOL. III.

LONDON:

JOHN MURRAY, ALBEMARLE STREET.

1888.

_The right of Translation is reserved._

CONTENTS.

CHAPTER XXVI.

PHÆDRUS--SYMPOSION.

These two are the two erotic dialogues of Plato. Phædrus is the

originator of both 1

Eros as conceived by Plato. Different sentiment prevalent in

Hellenic antiquity and in modern times. Position of women in

Greece _ib._

Eros, considered as the great stimulus to improving philosophical

communion. Personal Beauty, the great point of approximation

between the world of sense and the world of Ideas. Gradual

generalisation of the sentiment 4

All men love Good, as the means of Happiness, but they pursue it

by various means. The name _Eros_ is confined to one special case

of this large variety 5

Desire of mental copulation and procreation, as the only

attainable likeness of immortality, requires the sight of personal

beauty as an originating stimulus 6

Highest exaltation of the erotic impulse in a few privileged

minds, when it ascends gradually to the love of Beauty in general.

This is the most absorbing sentiment of all 7

Purpose of the Symposion, to contrast this Platonic view of Eros

with several different views of it previously enunciated by the

other speakers; closing with a panegyric on Sokrates, by the

drunken Alkibiades 8

Views of Eros presented by Phædrus, Pausanias, Eryximachus,

Aristophanes, Agathon 9

Discourse of Sokrates from revelation of Diotima. He describes

Eros as not a God, but an intermediate Dæmon between Gods and men,

constantly aspiring to divinity, but not attaining it 9

Analogy of the erotic aspiration with that of the philosopher, who

knows his own ignorance and thirsts for knowledge 10

Eros as presented in the Phædrus--Discourse of Lysias, and

counter-discourse of Sokrates, adverse to Eros--Sokrates is seized

with remorse, and recants in a high-flown panegyric on Eros 11

Panegyric--Sokrates admits that the influence of Eros is a variety

of madness, but distinguishes good and bad varieties of madness,

both coming from the Gods. Good madness is far better than

sobriety _ib._

Poetical mythe delivered by Sokrates, describing the immortality

and pre-existence of the soul, and its pre-natal condition of

partial companionship with

Gods and eternal Ideas 12

Operation of such pre-natal experience upon the Intellectual

faculties of man--Comparison and combination of particular

sensations indispensable--Reminiscence 13

Reminiscence is kindled up in the soul of the philosopher by the

aspect of visible Beauty, which is the great link between the

world of sense and the world of Ideas 14

Elevating influence ascribed, both in Phædrus and Symposion, to

Eros Philosophus. Mixture in the mind of Plato, of poetical fancy

and religious mysticism, with dialectic theory 15

Differences between Symposion and Phædrus. In-dwelling conceptions

assumed by the former, pre-natal experiences by the latter 17

Nothing but metaphorical immortality recognised in Symposion _ib._

Form or Idea of Beauty presented singly and exclusively in

Symposion 18

Eros recognised, both in Phædrus and Symposion, as affording the

initiatory stimulus to philosophy--Not so recognised in Phædon,

Theætêtus, and elsewhere _ib._

Concluding scene and speech of Alkibiades in the

Symposion--Behaviour of Sokrates to Alkibiades and other handsome

youths 19

Perfect self-command of Sokrates--proof against every sort of

trial 20

Drunkenness of others at the close of the Symposion--Sokrates is

not affected by it, but continues his dialectic process 21

Symposion and Phædon--each is the antithesis and complement of the

other 22

Symposion of Plato compared with that of Xenophon _ib._

Small proportion of the serious, in the Xenophontic Symposion 24

Platonic Symposion more ideal and transcendental than the

Xenophontic 25

Second half of the Phædrus--passes into a debate on Rhetoric. Eros

is considered as a subject for rhetorical exercise 26

Lysias is called a logographer by active politicians. Contempt

conveyed by the word. Sokrates declares that the only question is,

Whether a man writes well or ill 27

Question about teaching the art of writing well or speaking well.

Can it be taught upon system or principle? Or does the successful

Rhetor succeed only by unsystematic knack? 28

Theory of Sokrates--that all art of persuasion must be founded

upon a knowledge of the truth, and of gradations of resemblance to

the truth _ib._

Comparison made by Sokrates between the discourse of Lysias and

his own. Eros is differently understood: Sokrates defined what he

meant by it: Lysias did not define 29

Logical processes--Definition and Division--both of them

exemplified in the two discourses of Sokrates _ib._

View of Sokrates--that there is no real Art of Rhetoric, except

what is already comprised in Dialectic--The rhetorical teaching is

empty and useless 30

What the Art of Rhetoric ought to be--Analogy of Hippokrates and

the medical Art 31

Art of Rhetoric ought to include a systematic classification of

minds with all their varieties, and of discourses with all their

varieties. The Rhetor must know how to apply the one to the other,

suitably to each particular case 32

The Rhetorical Artist must farther become possessed of real truth,

as well as that which his auditors believe to be truth. He is not

sufficiently rewarded for this labour 33

Question about Writing--As an Art, for the purpose of instruction,

it can do little--Reasons why. Writing may remind the reader of

what he already knows _ib._

Neither written words, nor continuous speech, will produce any

serious effect in teaching. Dialectic and cross-examination are

necessary 34

The Dialectician and Cross-Examiner is the only man who can really

teach. If the writer can do this, he is more than a writer 37

Lysias is only a logographer: Isokrates promises to become a

philosopher 38

Date of the Phædrus--not an early dialogue _ib._

Criticism given by Plato on the three discourses--His theory of

Rhetoric is more Platonic than Sokratic _ib._

His theory postulates, in the Rhetor, knowledge already assured--it

assumes that all the doubts have been already removed 39

The Expositor, with knowledge and logical process, teaches minds

unoccupied and willing to learn _ib._

The Rhetor does not teach, but persuades persons with minds

pre-occupied--guiding them methodically from error to truth 40

He must then classify the minds to be persuaded, and the means of

persuasion or varieties of discourse. He must know how to fit on

the one to the other in each particular case 41

Plato's _Idéal_ of the Rhetorical Art--involves in part

incompatible conditions--the Wise man or philosopher will never be

listened to by the public _ib._

The other part of the Platonic _Idéal_ is grand but

unattainable--breadth of psychological data and classified

modes of discourse 42

Plato's ideal grandeur compared with the rhetorical

teachers--Usefulness of these teachers for the wants of an

accomplished man 44

The Rhetorical teachers conceived the Art too narrowly: Plato

conceived it too widely. The principles of an Art are not required

to be explained to all learners 45

Plato includes in his conception of Art, the application thereof

to new particular cases. This can never be taught by rule 46

Plato's charge against the Rhetorical teachers is not made out

47

Plato has not treated Lysias fairly, in neglecting his greater

works, and selecting for criticism an erotic exercise for a

private circle 47

No fair comparison can be taken between this exercise of Lysias

and the discourses delivered by Sokrates in the Phædrus 48

Continuous discourse, either written or spoken, inefficacious as a

means of instruction to the ignorant 49

Written matter is useful as a memorandum for persons who know--or

as an elegant pastime 50

Plato's didactic theories are pitched too high to be realised 51

No one has ever been found competent to solve the difficulties

raised by Sokrates, Arkesilaus, Karneades, and the negative vein

of philosophy _ib._

Plato's _idéal_ philosopher can only be realised under the

hypothesis of a pre-existent and omniscient soul, stimulated into

full reminiscence here 52

Different proceeding of Plato in the Timæus 53

Opposite tendencies co-existent in Plato's mind--Extreme of the

Transcendental or Absolute--Extreme of specialising adaptation to

individuals and occasions 54

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