DEAR SISTER:--

The evening after our return from Windsor was spent with our kind

friends, Mr. and Mrs. Gurney. Mr. Gurney is rector of Mary-le-Bone

parish, one of the largest districts in London; and he is, I have been

told, one of the court chaplains; a man of the most cultivated and

agreeable manners, earnestly and devoutly engaged in the business of

his calling. As one of the working men of the church establishment, I

felt a strong interest in his views and opinions, and he seemed to

take no less interest in mine, as coming from a country where there is

and can be no church establishment. He asked many questions about

America; the general style of our preaching; the character of our

theology; our modes of religious action; our revivals of religion; our

theories of sudden and instantaneous conversion, as distinguished from

the gradual conversion of education; our temperance societies, and the

stand taken by our clergy in behalf of temperance.

He wished to know how the English style of preaching appeared to me in

comparison with that of America. I told him one principal difference

that struck me was, that the English preaching did not recognize the

existence of any element of inquiry or doubt in the popular mind; that

it treated certain truths as axioms, which only needed to be stated to

be believed; whereas in American sermons there is always more or less

time employed in explaining, proving, and answering objections to, the

truths enforced. I quoted Baptist Noel's sermon in illustration of

what I meant.

I asked him to what extent the element of scepticism, with regard to

religious truth, had pervaded the mind of England? adding that I had

inferred its existence there from such novels as those of Kingsley. He

thought that there was much of this element, particularly in the

working classes; that they were coming to regard the clergy with

suspicion, and to be less under their influence than in former times;

and said it was a matter of much solicitude to know how to reach them.

I told him that I had heard an American clergyman, who had travelled

in England, say, that dissenters were treated much as free negroes

were in America, and added that my experience must have been very

exceptional, or the remark much overstated, as I had met dissenting

clergymen in all circles of society. He admitted that there might be a

good deal of bigotry in this respect, but added that the infrequency

of association was more the result of those circumstances which would

naturally draw the two parties to themselves, than to superciliousness

on the side of the establishment, adding that where a court and

aristocracy were in the established church, there would necessarily be

a pressure of fashion in its favor, which might at times bring

uncomfortable results.

The children were sitting by studying their evening lessons, and I

begged Mrs. Gurney to allow me to look over their geographies and

atlases; and on her inquiring why, I told her that well-informed

people in England sometimes made such unaccountable mistakes about the

geography of our country as were quite surprising to me, and that I

did not understand how it was that our children should know so much

more about England than they about us. I found the children, however,

in possession of a very excellent and authentic map of our country. I

must say also that the most highly educated people I have met in

England have never betrayed any want of information on this subject.

The next morning we had at breakfast two clergymen, members of the

established church. They appeared to be most excellent, devout,

practical men, anxious to do good, and thoughtfully seeking for

suggestions from any quarter which might assist them in their labors.

They renewed many of the inquiries which Mr. Gurney had made the

evening before.

After breakfast I went with Mr. Gurney and Mr. S. to Richmond's studio

to sit for a likeness, which is to be presented to Mr. S. by several

friends. Richmond's name is one which in this London sphere has only

to be announced to explain itself; not to know him argues yourself

unknown. He is one of the most successful artists in a certain line of

portrait painting that the present day affords. He devotes himself

principally to crayon and water-color sketches. His crayon heads are

generally the size of life; his water-colors of a small size. He often

takes full-lengths in this way, which render not merely the features,

but the figure, air, manner, and what is characteristic about the

dress. These latter sketches are finished up very highly, with the

minuteness of a miniature. His forte consists in seizing and fixing

those fleeting traits of countenance, air, and movement, which go so

far towards making up our idea of a person's appearance. Many of the

engravings of distinguished persons, with which we are familiar, have

come from his designs, such as Wilberforce, Sir Powell Buxton,

Elizabeth Fry, and others. I found his studio quite a gallery of

notabilities, almost all the _distingués_ of the day having sat

to him; so I certainly had the satisfaction of feeling myself in good

company. Mr. Richmond looks quite youthful, (but I never can judge of

any one's age here,) is most agreeable in conversation, full of

anecdote in regard to all the moving life of London. I presume his

power of entertaining conversation is one secret of his successful

likenesses. Some portrait painters keep calling on you for expression

all the while, and say nothing in the world to awaken it.

From Richmond's, Mr. S., C., and I drove out to call upon Kossuth. We

found him in an obscure lodging on the outskirts of London. I would

that some of the editors in America, who have thrown out insinuations

about his living in luxury, could have seen the utter bareness and

plainness of the reception room, which had nothing in it beyond the

simplest necessaries. Here dwells the man whose greatest fault is an

undying love of his country. We all know that if Kossuth would have

taken wealth and a secure retreat, with a life of ease for himself,

America would gladly have laid all these at his feet. But because he

could not acquiesce in the unmerited dishonor of his country, he lives

a life of obscurity, poverty, and labor. All this was written in his

pale, worn face, and sad, thoughtful blue eye. But to me the unselfish

patriot is more venerable for his poverty and his misfortunes.

Have we, among the thousands who speak loud of patriotism in America,

many men, who, were she enfeebled, despised, and trampled, would

forego self, and suffer as long, as patiently for her? It is even

easier to die for a good cause, in some hour of high enthusiasm, when

all that is noblest in us can be roused to one great venture, than to

live for it amid wearing years of discouragement and hope delayed.

There are those even here in England who delight to get up slanders

against Kossuth, and not long ago some most unfounded charges were

thrown out against him in some public prints. By way of counterpoise

an enthusiastic public meeting was held, in which he was presented

with a splendid set of Shakspeare.

He entered into conversation with us with cheerfulness, speaking

English well, though with the idioms of foreign languages. He seemed

quite amused at the sensation which had been excited by Mr. S.'s

cotton speech in Exeter Hall. C. asked him if he had still hopes for

his cause. He answered, "I hope still, because I work still; my hope

is in God and in man."

I inquired for Madame Kossuth, and he answered, "I have not yet seen

her to-day," adding, "she has her family affairs, you know, madam; we

are poor exiles here;" and, fearing to cause embarrassment, I did not

press an interview.

When we parted he took my hand kindly, and said, "God bless you, my

child."

I would not lose my faith in such men for any thing the world could

give me. There are some people who involve in themselves so many of

the elements which go to make up our confidence in human nature

generally, that to lose confidence in them seems to undermine our

faith in human virtue. As Shakspeare says, their defection would be

like "another fall of man."

We went back to Mr. Gurney's to lunch, and then, as the afternoon was

fine, Mr. and Mrs. Gurney drove with us in their carriage to Pembroke

Lodge, the country seat of Lord John Russell. It was an uncommonly

beautiful afternoon, and the view from Richmond Hill was as perfect a

specimen of an English landscape, seen under the most benignant

auspices, as we could hope to enjoy. Orchards, gardens, villas,

charming meadows enamelled with flowers, the silver windings of the

Thames, the luxuriant outlines of the foliage, varied here and there

by the graceful perpendicular of the poplars, all formed one of the

richest of landscapes. The brow of the hill is beautifully laid out

with tufts of trees, winding paths, diversified here and there with

arbors and rustic seats.

Richmond Park is adorned with clumps of ancient trees, among which

troops of deer were strolling. Pembroke Lodge is a plain,

unostentatious building, rising in the midst of charming grounds. We

were received in the drawing room by the young ladies, and were sorry

to learn that Lady Russell was so unwell as to be unable to give us

her company at dinner. Two charming little boys came in, and a few

moments after, their father, Lord John. I had been much pleased with

finding on the centre table a beautiful edition of that revered friend

of my childhood, Dr. Watts's Divine Songs, finely illustrated. I

remarked to Lord John that it was the face of an old friend. He said

it was presented to his little boys by their godfather, Sir George

Grey; and when, taking one of the little boys on his knee, he asked

him if he could repeat me one of his hymns, the whole thing seemed so

New England-like that I began to feel myself quite at home. I hope I

shall some day see in America an edition of Dr. Watts, in which the

illustrations do as much justice to the author's sentiments as in

this, for in all our modern religious works for children there is

nothing that excels these divine songs.

There were only a few guests; among them Sir George Grey and lady; he

is nephew to Earl Grey, of reform memory, and she is the eldest

daughter of the pious and learned Bishop Ryder, of Lichfield. Sir

George is a man of great piety and worth, a liberal, and much

interested in all benevolent movements. There was also the Earl of

Albemarle, who is a colonel in the army, and has served many years

under Wellington, a particularly cheerful, entertaining, conversable

man, full of anecdote. He told several very characteristic and comical

stories about the Duke of Wellington.

At dinner, among other things, the conversation turned upon hunting.

It always seemed to me a curious thing, that in the height of English

civilization this vestige of the savage state should still remain. I

told Lord Albemarle that I thought the idea of a whole concourse of

strong men turning out to hunt a poor fox or hare, creatures so feeble

and insignificant, and who can do nothing to defend themselves, was

hardly consistent with manliness; that if they had some of our

American buffaloes, or a Bengal tiger, the affair would be something

more dignified and generous. Thereupon they only laughed, and told

stories about fox hunters. It seems that killing a fox, except in the

way of hunting, is deemed among hunters an unpardonable offence, and a

man who has the misfortune to do it would be almost as unwilling to

let it be known as if he had killed a man.

They also told about deer stalking in the highlands, in which exercise

I inferred Lord John had been a proficient. The conversation reminded

me of the hunting stories I had heard in the log cabins in Indiana,

and I amused myself with thinking how some of the narrators would

appear among my high-bred friends. There is such a quaint vivacity and

droll-cry about that half-savage western life, as always gives it a

charm in my recollection. I thought of the jolly old hunter who always

concluded the operations of the day by discharging his rifle at his

candle after he had snugly ensconced himself in bed; and of the

celebrated scene in which Henry Clay won an old hunter's vote in an

election, by his aptness in turning into a political simile some

points in the management of a rifle.

Now there is, to my mind, something infinitely more sublime about

hunting in real earnest amid the solemn shadows of our interminable

forests, than in making believe hunt in parks.

It is undoubtedly the fact, that these out-of-door sports of England

have a great deal to do with the firm health which men here enjoy.

Speaking of this subject, I could not help expressing my surprise to

Lord John at the apparently perfect health enjoyed by members of

Parliament, notwithstanding their protracted night labors. He thinks

that the session of Parliament this year will extend nearly to August.

Speaking of breakfasts, he said they often had delightful breakfasts

about three o'clock in the day; this is a total reverse of all our

ideas in regard to time.

After dinner Lord and Lady Ribblesdale came in, connections of Lord

John by a former marriage. I sat by Lord John on the sofa, and

listened with great interest to a conversation between him and Lady

Grey, on the working of the educational system in England; a subject

which has particularly engaged the attention of the English government

since the reign of the present queen. I found a difficulty in

understanding many of the terms they used, though I learned much that

interested me.

After a while I went to Lady Russell's apartment, and had an hour of

very pleasant conversation with her. It greatly enlarges our

confidence in human nature to find such identity of feeling and

opinion among the really good of different countries, and of all

different circles in those countries. I have never been more impressed

with this idea than during my sojourn here in England. Different as

the institutions of England and America are, they do not prevent the

formation of a very general basis of agreement in so far as radical

ideas of practical morality and religion are concerned; and I am

increasingly certain that there is a foundation for a lasting unity

between the two countries which shall increase constantly, as the

increasing facilities of communication lessen the distance between us.

Lady Russell inquired with a good deal of interest after Prescott, our

historian, and expressed the pleasure which she and Lord John had

derived from his writings.

We left early, after a most agreeable evening. The next day at eleven

o'clock we went to an engagement at Lambeth Palace, where we had been

invited by a kind note from its venerable master, the Archbishop of

Canterbury. Lambeth is a stately pile of quaint, antique buildings,

rising most magnificently on the banks of the Thames. It is surrounded

by beautiful grounds, laid out with choice gardening. Through an

ancient hall, lighted by stained-glass windows, we were ushered into

the drawing room, where the guests were assembling. There was quite a

number of people there, among others the lady and eldest son of the

Bishop of London, the Earl and Countess Waldegrave, and the family

friends of the archbishop.

The good archbishop was kind and benign, as usual, and gave me his arm

while we explored the curiosities of the palace. Now, my dear, if you

will please to recollect that the guide book says, "this palace

contains all the gradations of architecture from early English to late

perpendicular," you will certainly not expect me to describe it in one

letter. It has been the residence of the archbishops of Canterbury

from time immemorial, both in the days before the reformation and

since.

The chapel was built between the years 1200 and 1300, and there used

to be painted windows in it, as Archbishop Laud says, which contained

the whole history of the world, from the creation to the day of

judgment. Unfortunately these comprehensive windows were destroyed in

the civil wars.

The part called the Lollards' Tower is celebrated as having been the

reputed prison of the Lollards. These Lollards, perhaps you will

remember, were the followers of John Wickliffe, called Lollards as

Christ was called a "Nazarene," simply because the word was a term of

reproach. Wickliffe himself was summoned here to Lambeth to give an

account of his teachings, and in 1382, William Courtnay, Archbishop of

Canterbury, called a council, which condemned his doctrines. The

tradition is, that at various times these Lollards were imprisoned

here.

In order to get to the tower we had to go through a great many

apartments, passages, and corridors, and terminate all by climbing a

winding staircase, steeper and narrower than was at all desirable for

any but wicked heretics, who ought to be made as uncomfortable as

possible. However, by reasonable perseverance, the archbishop, the

bishop's lady, and all the noble company present found themselves

safely at the top. Our host remarked, I think, that it was the second

time he had ever been there.

The room is thirteen feet by twelve, and about eight feet high,

wainscotted with oak, which is scrawled over with names and

inscriptions. There are eight large iron rings in the wall, to which

the prisoners were chained; for aught we know, Wickliffe himself may

have been one. As our kind host moved about among us with his placid

face, we could not but think that times had altered since the days

when archbishops used to imprison heretics, and preside over grim,

inquisitorial tribunals. We all agreed, however, that, considering the

very beautiful prospect this tower commands up and down the Thames,

the poor Lollards in some respects might have been worse lodged.

We passed through the guard room, library, and along a corridor where

hung a row of pictures of all the archbishops from the very earliest

times; and then the archbishop took me into his study, which is a most

charming room, containing his own private library: after that we all

sat down to lunch in a large dining hall. I was seated between the

archbishop and a venerable admiral in the navy. Among other things,

the latter asked me if there were not many railroad and steamboat

accidents in America. O my countrymen, what trouble do you make us in

foreign lands by your terrible carelessness! I was obliged, in candor,

to say that I thought there was a shocking number of accidents of that

sort, and suggested the best excuse I could think of--our youth and

inexperience; but I certainly thought my venerable friend had touched

a very indefensible point.

Among other topics discussed in the drawing room, I heard some more

_on dits_ respecting spiritual rappings. Every body seems to be

wondering what they are, and what they are going to amount to.

We took leave of our kind host and his family, gratefully impressed

with the simplicity and sincere cordiality of our reception. There are

many different names for goodness in this world; but, after all, true

brotherly kindness and charity is much the same thing, whether it show

itself by a Quaker's fireside or in an archbishop's palace.

Leaving the archbishop's I went to Richmond's again, where I was most

agreeably entertained for an hour or two. We have an engagement for

Playford Hall to-morrow, and we breakfast with Joseph Sturge: it being

now the time of the yearly meeting of the Friends, he and his family

are in town.

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