CHAPTER XV

ITALY AND INDIA

EDITOR: It is well that you have instanced Italy. Mazzini was a great

and good man; Garibaldi was a great warrior. Both are adorable; from

their lives we can learn much. But the condition of Italy was different

from that of India. In the first instance the difference between Mazzini

and Garibaldi is worth noting. Mazzini's ambition was not, and has not

yet been realised, regarding Italy. Mazzini has shown in his writings on

the duty of man that every man must learn how to rule himself. This has

not happened in Italy. Garibaldi did not hold this view of Mazzini's.

Garibaldi gave, and every Italian took arms. Italy and Austria had the

same civilization; they were cousins in this respect. It was a matter of

tit for tat. Garibaldi simply wanted Italy to be free from the Austrian

yoke. The machinations of Minister Cavour disgrace that portion of the

history of Italy. And what has been the result? If you believe that,

because Italians rule Italy, the Italian nation is happy, you are

groping in darkness. Mazzini has shown conclusively that Italy did not

become free. Victor Emanuel gave one meaning to the expression; Mazzini

gave another. According to Emanuel, Cavour, and even Garibaldi, Italy

meant the King of Italy and his henchmen. According to Mazzini, it meant

the whole of the Italian people, that is, its agriculturists. Emanuel

was only its servant. The Italy of Mazzini still remains in a state of

slavery. At the time of the so-called national war, it was a game of

chess between two rival kings, with the people of Italy as pawns. The

working classes in that land are still unhappy. They therefore indulge

in assassination, rise in revolt, and rebellion on their part is always

expected. What substantial gain did Italy obtain after the withdrawal of

the Austrian troops? The gain was only nominal. The reforms, for the

sake of which the war was supposed to have been undertaken, have not yet

been granted. The condition of the people, in general, still remains the

same. I am sure you do not wish to reproduce such a condition in India.

I believe that you want the millions of India to be happy, not that you

want the reins of Government in your hands. If that be so, we have to

consider only one thing: how can the millions obtain self-rule? You will

admit that people under several Indian princes are being ground down.

The latter mercilessly crush them. Their tyranny is greater than that of

the English, and, if you want such tyranny in India, that we shall

never agree. My patriotism does not teach me that I am to allow people

to be crushed under the heel of Indian princes, if only the English

retire. If I have the power, I should resist the tyranny of Indian

princes just as much as that of the English. By patriotism I mean the

welfare of the whole people, and, if I could secure it at the hands of

the English, I should bow down my head to them. If any Englishman

dedicated his life to securing the freedom of India, resisting tyranny

and serving the land, I should welcome that Englishman as an Indian.

Again, India can fight like Italy only when she has arms. You have not

considered this problem at all. The English are splendidly armed; that

does not frighten me, but it is clear that, to fit ourselves against

them in arms, thousands of Indians must be armed. If such a thing be

possible, how many years will it take. Moreover, to arm India on a large

scale is to Europeanise it. Then her condition will be just as pitiable

as that of Europe. This means, in short, that India must accept European

civilization, and if that is what we want, the best thing is that we

have among us those who are so well trained in that civilization. We

will then fight for a few rights, will get what we can and so pass our

days. But the fact is that the Indian nation will not adopt arms, and it

is well that it does not.

READER: You are overassuming facts. All need not be armed. At first, we

will assassinate a few Englishmen and strike terror; then a few men who

will have been armed will fight openly. We may have to lose a quarter of

a million men, more or less, but we will regain our land. We will

undertake guerilla warfare, and defeat the English.

EDITOR: That is to say, you want to make the holy land of India unholy.

Do you not tremble to think of freeing India by assassination? What we

need to do is to kill ourselves. It is a cowardly thought, that of

killing others. Whom do you suppose to free by assassination? The

millions of India do not desire it. Those who are intoxicated by the

wretched modern civilization think of these things. Those who will rise

to power by murder will certainly not make the nation happy. Those who

believe that India has gained by Dhingra's act and such other acts in

India make a serious mistake. Dhingra was a patriot, but his love was

blind. He gave his body in a wrong way; its ultimate result can only be

mischievous.

READER: But you will admit that the English have been frightened by

these murders, and that Lord Morley's reforms are due to fear.

EDITOR: The English are both a timid and a brave nation. She is, I

believe, easily influenced by the use of gunpowder. It is possible that

Lord Morley has granted the reforms through fear, but what is granted

under fear can be retained only so long as the fear lasts.

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