JANUARY 8, 1808.

The Message and papers therein referred to were read.

WEDNESDAY, January 13.

Mr. FRANKLIN, from the State of North Carolina, attended.

MONDAY, February 1.

_Claim of Thomas Paine._

The PRESIDENT communicated an address, signed Thomas Paine, stating his

claim on the United States for services rendered during the Revolutionary

war, and his title to remuneration. The address was read, and is as

follows:

NEW YORK, _January 21, 1808_.

_To the honorable the Senate of the United States_:

The purport of this address is to state a claim I feel myself

entitled to make on the United States, leaving it to their

Representatives in Congress to decide on its worth and its

merits. The case is as follows:

Towards the latter end of the year 1780, the continental money

had become so depreciated (a paper dollar not being more than a

cent) that it seemed next to impossible to continue the war.

As the United States were then in alliance with France, it

became necessary to make France acquainted with our real

situation. I therefore drew up a letter to Count de Vergennes,

stating undisguisedly the true case, and concluding with the

request whether France could not, either as a subsidy or a

loan, supply the United States with a million sterling, and

continue that supply, annually, during the war.

I showed the letter to Mr. Marbois, Secretary to the French

Minister. His remark upon it was, that a million sent out of

the nation exhausted it more than ten millions spent in it.

I then showed it to Mr. Ralph Izard, member of Congress from

South Carolina. He borrowed the letter of me, and said, “We

will endeavor to do something about it in Congress.”

Accordingly, Congress appointed Colonel John Laurens, then

aid to General Washington, to go to France and make a

representation of our situation, for the purpose of obtaining

assistance. Colonel Laurens wished to decline the mission, and

that Congress would appoint Colonel Hamilton; which Congress

did not choose to do.

Colonel Laurens then came to state the case to me. He said he

was enough acquainted with the military difficulties of the

Army, but that he was not enough acquainted with political

affairs, nor with the resources of the country, to undertake

the mission; “but,” said he, “if you will go with me, I will

accept it;” which I agreed to do, and did do.

We sailed from Boston in the Alliance frigate, Captain Barry,

the beginning of February, 1781, and arrived at L’Orient the

beginning of March.

The aid obtained from France was six millions of livres as a

present, and ten millions as a loan, borrowed in Holland, on

the security of France.

We sailed from Brest in the French Resoulue frigate the first

of June, and arrived at Boston on the 25th of August, bringing

with us two millions and a half of livres, in silver, and

convoying a ship and a brig laden with clothing and military

stores. The money was transported with sixteen ox teams to the

National Bank at Philadelphia, which enabled the army to move

to Yorktown to attack, in conjunction with the French army

under Rochambeau, the British army under Cornwallis. As I never

had a cent for this service, I feel myself entitled, as the

country is now in a state of prosperity, to state the case to

Congress.

As to my political works, beginning with the pamphlet _Common

Sense_, published the beginning of January, 1776, which

awakened America to a declaration of independence, as the

President and Vice President both know, as they were works done

from principle, I cannot dishonor that principle by asking any

reward for them. The country has been benefited by them, and I

make myself happy in the knowledge of it It is, however, proper

for me to add, that the mere independence of America, were

it to have been followed by a system of government modelled

after the corrupt system of the English Government, it would

not have interested me with the unabated ardor it did. It was

to bring forward and establish the representative system of

government, as the work itself will show, that was the leading

principle with me in writing that work, and all my other works,

during the progress of the Revolution. And I followed the same

principle in writing the _Rights of Man_, in England.

There is a resolve of the old Congress, while they sat at New

York, of a grant of three thousand dollars to me. The resolve

is put in handsome language, but it has relation to a matter

which it does not express. Elbridge Gerry was chairman of the

committee who brought in the resolve. If Congress should think

proper to refer this memorial to a committee, I will inform

that committee of the particulars of it. I have also to state

to Congress, that the authority of the old Congress was become

so reduced towards the latter end of the war as to be unable

to hold the States together. Congress could do no more than

recommend, of which the States frequently took no notice; and

when they did, it was never uniformly.

After the failure of the five-per-cent duty, recommended by

Congress, to pay the interest of a loan to be borrowed in

Holland, I wrote to Chancellor Livingston, then Minister for

Foreign Affairs, and Robert Morris, Minister of Finance,

and proposed a method for getting over the whole difficulty

at once; which was, by adding a Continental Legislature to

Congress, who should be empowered to-make laws for the Union,

instead of recommending them; so the method proposed met with

their full approbation. I held myself in reserve, to take the

subject up whenever a direct occasion occurred.

In a conversation afterwards with Governor Clinton, of New

York, now Vice President, it was judged that, for the purpose

of my going fully into the subject, and to prevent any

misconstruction of my motive or object, it would be best that

I received nothing from Congress, but leave it to the States,

individually, to make me what acknowledgment they pleased.

The State of New York made me a present of a farm, which,

since my return to America, I have found it necessary to sell;

and the State of Pennsylvania voted me five hundred pounds,

their currency. But none of the States to the east of New

York, or the south of Philadelphia, ever made me the least

acknowledgment. They had received benefits from me, which they

accepted, and there the matter ended. This story will not tell

well in history. All the civilized world know I have been of

great service to the United States, and have generously given

away talent that would have made me a fortune.

I much question if an instance is to be found in ancient or

modern times of a man who had no personal interest in the cause

he took up--that of independence and the establishment of a

representative system of government, and who sought neither

place nor office after it was established--that persevered in

the same undeviating principles as I have done, for more than

thirty years, and that in spite of difficulties, dangers, and

inconveniences, of which I have had my share.

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