We had much additional discussion yet, with reference to this. He would

have liked to engage me in a disputation concerning the articles of

faith; but I would not enter into one, confining myself to the asking

of such questions. The man was willing in speaking, and very mild,

and wanted attention to be given to what he said, and also gave good

attention himself. And I thought: “I have heard so long and so much of

this man, that he persecutes and troubles the church so greatly; I must

see now, how he will prove it with the Scriptures, when I speak with

him; for I don’t know that I have ever seen him.”

I asked him, where he found it written, that he should run so

bloodthirstily after innocent blood, which no one could accuse of any

crime. _Dean._ “My friend, I don’t run after or seek the blood of any

one.” _Claes._ “You send out your servants for that purpose.” _Dean._

“I do not, my friend.” _Claes._ “Do you persecute no one, then?”

_Dean._ “No, my friend.” _Claes._ “Have you no mandates either, by

which you cause it to be done?” _Dean._ “No, my friend.” _Claes._ “You

have certainly delivered to the law my fellow-brethren who fell into

your hands, and remained steadfast in the faith; this has been manifest

to all the world.” _Dean._ “I don’t do this, my friend.” _Claes._ “Why

do you come and sit with the Judges, and have so much to say, if you

don’t concern yourself about the matter? One by hearing you talk, would

think you had no hand in it.” _Dean._ “No, my friend;” and he rubbed

his hands together. _Claes._ “Who then does it?” _Dean._ “The secular,

or the lord who has received the sword.”

We had yet much more discussion on this subject, so that he did not

know which way to turn. He asked from Deut. 17:12, upon which passage

he founded it, that the priests had the authority, etc. I told him

that that was under the law of revenge, but that now we were under

the law of grace. Exodus 21:23; Rom. 6:14. And I asked him, how he

dared do something which the Lord had forbidden, namely, concerning

the tares, Matt. 13:30, that both the wheat and the tares should be

suffered to grow together. I asked him which of the two I was, that

I must certainly be either the wheat or the tares? _Dean._ “You are

the tares.” _Claes._ “Why don’t you let me grow until the day of

harvest?” _Dean._ “What the lord of the field commanded his servants

was for the reason, that they should not spoil the wheat by pulling

up the tares. But I can go along the edges, and here and there pluck

out a handful or two, yea, sometimes, six, eight, ten, twelve, yea,

now and then a hundred or two, without spoiling the wheat.” _Claes._

“Then you are wiser than the servants of the Lord.” _Dean._ “I can

certainly well do this.” _Claes._ “When I held with the priests, and

walked according to your will, was I a good blade?” _Dean._ “Yes.”

_Claes._ “Am I now a bad blade?” _Dean._ “Yes.” _Claes._ “Well, then,

if I am a bad blade, according to your own words, you have yourselves

spoiled me, and others, who have gone before, by your plucking, and

yet you say that you can do it so well. O you miserable plucker, that

you are, when you plucked the four blades of Lier, in the Verle place,

five years ago, when you stood on the scaffold, and preached, and

the people said: “Antichrist preaches.” It was then that I began to

investigate, what faith it was for which those people died so boldly

there; and I examined the scripture which you quoted from 2 Tim. 2 and

3. And I found that I had to separate from such a people as is plainly

enough spoken of there, with regard to you; and I separated from such

a multitude, and do so yet. What becomes now of you and your plucking,

poor plucker; the more you pluck, the more you spoil; according to your

own words, it were better if you would stop.” And I told him a great

deal from the Scriptures, so that he was ashamed, and knew not what to

answer.

At last he said: “Those were not my people; it seems to me, that you

have searched the Scriptures well; where did you hold your church?”

_Claes._ “Where Christ and his apostles held it, behind hedges, in

the woods, in the field, on mountains, on the sea-coast, sometimes in

houses, or wherever they found a place.” Luke 6:17; Matt. 5:2; Acts

1:13. _Dean._ “Christ preached openly (Jn. 18:20); but you people

cannot be found, where you are, or who you are.” _Claes._ “It is

certainly a great cross for you, that you cannot find them, nor know

them, and that you people are known so well. I hope that God will

not permit you to find them; but though you sometimes cut into the

branches, I trust that you will not cut off the vine. Christ Jesus,

the living Son of God, will keep and feed his branches, so that they

may bring forth fruit, although you now do your very best to tear and

destroy them.”

We spoke much more yet of the church, and of his people, whom he

exalted greatly. I asked him many questions in regard to whether

infants that died without baptism were damned. He said: “Yes.” I asked

him whether the apostles had read mass and persecuted. And he replied

“Yes” to everything, so that it seemed to me that the more I asked him,

the more he lied; and I reproved him for the lies in which I found him.

He said: “They are not lies, but it is the truth; but you don’t believe

what is told you; you remain hardened and unbelieving.” And according

to his words, it seemed that the life of the apostles was not a whit

different from that of the priests. He said: “As regards your life,

your walk or conversation is good towards all men, and you do unto your

neighbor as you would have men do unto you, and live in peace, love

and unity with one another, which is very good; and you assist each

other in need and distress, and lay down your lives for one another,

which is also very good, I can say nothing against it; and you expel

from your church them that live disorderly, as you expelled Jelis of

Aix-la-Chapelle, who led such a life, as I well know; against this I

have nothing to say, it is all well done: but of what use is it to your

people to have the life, if you have not the faith? it is not able to

save you.” I replied: “We have also the faith; but you don’t understand

it, or will not understand it; but it will yet be revealed to you, in

the last day of the Lord, whom you have served.” And I assailed him

very severely.

He rang the bell for the jailer to let him out. The latter came into

the room, and the Dean rose to go. I thanked him much that he had come

here for my sake. He turned around and said: “I should like to see

you suffer yourself to be brought on the right way; but you persist

obstinately in your unbelief; you are like your master.” I asked:

“Who is my master?” He replied: “The devil.” I assailed him with many

Scriptures, in order that he should come no more, and he went away

ashamed, because the jailer was present, and other prisoners, who came

running to the door. I had asked him for information concerning Jelis,

and he could tell me everything, which greatly astonished me.

The third day after this, the jailer came once more for me, and I went

down very willingly. He directed me to go into a certain room. When

I entered it, there were sitting there the chief Judge with another

Judge, and a pastor or priest, who was exceedingly bent upon examining

our friends, and very mordacious in his words, so that he could listen

to nothing that was said, without interrupting it. But one of the

Judges had never been a Judge before, and he constantly forbade him;

for he paid very close attention. When I entered the room, I did the

lords great reverence, and they did the same to me. 1 Pet. 2:17. I took

a seat at the table, and the priest made a lengthy harangue, as had the

dean; I kept silent till I was asked. When he had ended his sermon,

he asked me: “Why did you suffer yourself to be seduced so miserably

from the faith into error?” _Claes._ “I have not been led into error,

but from error into the true Christian faith.” _Priest._ “What then is

your faith; let us hear?” _Claes._ “I believe that Jesus Christ is the

true, living Son of God, and that there is no other salvation either

in heaven or on earth, either under it or above it.” _Chief Judge._

“This we all likewise believe in our church.” The priest laughed,

saying: “This I also preach; tell us something else, and speak freely;

for Christ said: When you are brought before kings, and princes, and

magistrates, fear not what ye shall speak; for it shall be given you in

that same hour, of my heavenly Father, what ye shall speak; yea, my

spirit shall speak through your mouth. Matt. 10:19. Now, if you have

received the Holy Spirit, speak freely through the Holy Spirit.” And

the chief Judge sat there and kept nodding his head, and smiling, and

saying: “Yes, yes, Claes, yes;” before I could say a single word. The

priest continued instantly. “Christ promised his church, that he would

be with them unto the end of the world. Matt. 28:20. And I can find

none among you that can tell me of a longer existence of your church

than about thirty years; for before that it did not exist; or do you

know of any books of your people, that are older, then name them to

us.” _Claes._ “Since Christ promised his church, that he should be

with her unto the end of the world, I doubt not that he has been the

preserver of his body, and is yet, and will be as long as the world

will endure, according to his promise, Matt. 28:20; Eph. 5:23. Although

she was sometimes extirpated in some countries, through bloodshed and

persecution, and through the false doctrine of the Roman Empire, or

otherwise; she was therefore not annihilated throughout the world; for

the world is great, and she could linger in some corner of the world,

and from one to the other, without perishing utterly. And as to your

asking me to name to you any books of our church, the Bible is our

book, which has reigned in the church from of old.” _Priest._ “Is it

big enough for you people, and have you enough with one?” _Claes._

“Yes; it is too big yet for us.” The priest laughed and said: “What

becomes then of all the books written from the time of the apostles

by learned men, who also received the Spirit of God, as well as the

apostles? have they all written in vain; as Jerome, Gregory, Augustine,

and Ambrose; these were certainly good and virtuous men, were they

not?” _Claes._ “Were these the four pillars upon which your church

is founded?” _Priest._ “Yes.” _Claes._ “I did not know them, only by

hearsay; they were pious scullions, if they founded your church as it

yet is as may be seen.” The priest drew back, and said: “Why, why!” I

said: “Christ did not thus found his church, neither did Peter, Paul,

Stephen, and John; they rather received rods on the back, stones on

the head, and the sword in the neck, and so forth.” 2 Cor. 11:25; Acts

7:58; 12:2.

The priest was disconcerted, and said: “Tell us the truth about

your church; for no one knows where to find it; if it were good, it

would certainly come to the light; you people have neither head nor

authority, nor do you know one another; this is a strange thing.”

_Claes._ “Paul teaches us in his epistle to the Ephesians, concerning

the true church, which Christ has presented to himself, that it is

glorious, holy and without blemish, without spot or wrinkle; that they

are baptized together into one Spirit, and into one body, the head

of which is Christ, and are joined together as members of his body.

These have one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father, of us

all, who is through us all, and in us all. This is the true temple of

God, in which dwells the Spirit of God. This church Christ has bought

and redeemed with his blood.” Eph. 5:27; 1 Cor. 12:13; Eph. 4:5,6; 1

Corinthians 6:19,20; 1 Pet. 1:19. _Priest._ “Did not Christ redeem

all men, but only these?” _Claes._ “It is written in divers places,

that the unbelieving shall be damned; how then will the death of

Christ benefit them? or what will it avail them that Christ died? It

is to be feared that they will regret it, that Christ died. But those

who have believed in the word of the Lord, and followed it, they are

the ones who will inherit the kingdom of heaven, and triumph with the

Lord on mount Zion, who have death, devil, hell and the world under

their feet, though the world in her frenzy hastens to tear, devour and

destroy them. If they were of the world, the world would love them;

but because they are not of the world, therefore the world hates them,

as Christ said.” John 15:19. _Priest._ “You people don’t believe that

Christ is God and man.” _Claes._ “I believe that Christ is true God

and man.” _Priest._ “Do you not believe that Christ is man from Mary’s

flesh?” _Claes._ “No; for if he had become man from Mary’s natural

flesh and blood, he must have had his beginning with Mary; but it is

written that he has neither beginning of days, nor end of life. Heb.

7:3. And the Word would not have become flesh, if he had assumed flesh

from Mary; nor would he have come in the flesh, as John declares; but

he would have come from the flesh, had he assumed it from Mary. John

1:14; 2 John 7. And it is written: He that confesseth not that Christ

is come in the flesh, is that spirit of antichrist. 1 John 4:3. And

if he were such a carnal man, he could not have ascended to heaven;

for it is written (1 Cor. 15:50) that flesh and blood will not inherit

the kingdom of God.” _Priest._ “Still, did not the angel Gabriel say

to Mary: Thou shalt conceive and bring forth a son?” Luke 1:31; Is.

7:14. _Claes._ “Well, understand the word rightly; for he said: Thou

shalt conceive, and bring forth; now, what Mary conceived, could not

grow from her.” _Priest._ “What word became flesh?” _Claes._ “The same

word of which John testifies to us, in his first epistle, saying: That

which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen

with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled,

of the Word of life; for the life was manifested. 1 John 1:1; John

9:37; 20:27. What else do you want to know?” _Priest._ “Where did

Christ assume his flesh, in heaven, or on earth?” _Claes._ “That which

I cannot prove with Scriptures, I will not say.” _Priest._ “Don’t you

believe anything but what is written?” _Claes._ “No.” _Priest._ “You

certainly believe that you have a soul; but what do you know as to

what your soul is, how large, how long, how wide, or of what color it

is?” _Claes._ “What does that concern me? my salvation does not lie

in that.” _Priest._ “You believe that the dead will rise; but how can

any one comprehend that what has perished will rise and become alive?”

_Claes._ “I am well satisfied with the explanation Paul has written,” 1

Cor. 15. _Priest._ “Do you not believe that Mary is mother and virgin?”

_Claes._ “Yes.” The priest smote his hand upon the table, drew himself

up to his full height, and said: “This you cannot prove to me; we find

nothing of this kind written in the Scriptures.” _Claes._ “The prophet

Isaiah prophesied that he should be born of a virgin. Is. 7:14. Again,

when Gabriel said to Mary: Thou shalt conceive and bring forth a son;

Mary answered: “How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?” Luke

1:31,34. _Priest._ “Yes, thus you may glean it here and there; but that

she remained virgin until her death?” _Claes._ “This I do not say.”

_Priest._ “That is what I mean. And what do you think of the Supper? do

you not believe that when Christ took bread, and gave thanks, and brake

it, saying: ‘Take, eat; this is my body;’ he gave them his natural

flesh and blood?” _Claes._ “No,” _Priest._ “Did he not say: Except ye

eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life

in you? And did he not say that this was the true heavenly bread, which

came down from heaven?” John 6:53,51. _Claes._ “The bread of which

Christ speaks (John 6), is this the bread which you give the people to

eat, namely, which you people call the sacrament?” _Priest._ “Yea, it

is the same which he left us.” _Claes._ “According to this, then, no

one will be damned of all those that eat of it; for Christ said: If any

man eat of this bread, he shall live forever; but now every one comes,

whores, knaves, thieves, murderers, of whom it is written that they

shall not inherit the kingdom of heaven.” Gal. 5:21. _Priest._ “They

have sorrow for their sins, before they receive it; and the Lord said:

If the sinner sighs over his transgression, I will remember it no more

forever.” Ezek. 18:21.

In regard to this we had much discussion; but it is too long to write.

At last I asked the priest, whether he believed that when he takes

the host into his mouth, he receives Christ’s body, in flesh and

blood, as large as he hung on the tree of the cross? _Priest._ “Yes.”

_Claes._ “When you swallow him, where does he go then?” The priest

was highly offended. The chief Judge asked me: “Why could you not be

satisfied with your first baptism, but had yourself baptized a second

time?” _Claes._ “I know of but one baptism.” Eph. 4:5. _Priest._ “Your

sponsors well know that you were baptized once; you can ask them.”

_Claes._ “Though I had known that I was baptized, yet I now know that

it was done without faith; but it is written (Romans 14:23): Whatsoever

is not of faith is sin.” _Chief Judge._ “Your sponsors believed.”

_Claes._ “I do not know that the apostles baptized any one, unless

he himself believed, and confessed his faith. But what did I confess

when I was baptized in infancy?” _Priest._ “Ask your sponsors. And

what do you think of our father the Pope, and his dominion?” _Claes._

“The Pope, with all his trumpery, and mass, and all that is therein,

is good for nothing, bag and baggage. You priests sell masses to the

people, by the dozen, by twenties and thirties at a time; they have

neither edge nor point; they neither cut nor stab; and yet you promise

the people that they are good and effectual--is this not deception?

You preach to the people, that one should not drink to excess, and you

go about the streets, as drunk as hogs. You preach that one ought not

to be covetous; but where is more covetousness than in the priests and

monks? You preach that one ought not to be idle; but where is more

idleness than among you? You will rather tramp from door to door with a

bag or basket, than work, as may be seen.” The priest was angry, rose,

and said: “This is the first thing you teach each other, to reveal

the failings of your neighbor.” _Claes._ “Why should we not apply the

knowledge Christ has given us, when he says that the tree shall be

known by its fruit.” _Priest._ “This is to be spiritually understood;”

and he went out of the room.

The chief Judge asked me whether I would renounce my second baptism,

and all that I had said. I replied: “No, my lords, I will in no wise

deny that which was administered to me in the name of the Lord.”

Hearing this, the chief Judge arose. Then they rose and began to

go out. I then thanked them, that they had been molested with me.

The chief Judge turned around, and asked me again, whether I would

renounce; or I should see what should result to me from it. Then my

heart was enkindled to tell him and the other Judges, that they should

take heed what they were doing, and I said: “My lords, renounce I

will in no wise, and what will result to me from it, according to the

imperial mandate, I well know; but there are two mandates, the one

from the supreme King, the other from the mortal Emperor, and these

two run counter to each other; the one says that both are to be let

grow, the good with the bad; the other that the tares are to be rooted

up. Therefore, my lords, I pray you, to warn the other Judges, that

they consider what is the best; for you have not received the sword,

to punish the innocent.” I told them a great deal, as the Lord gave me

utterance. He stood there, with his cap in his hand, as did also the

other Judge, and the jailer, and they kept very silent. Finally they

prayed God, that he would grant me my greatest happiness, and went away.

Thus I greet the whole church, scattered in every country, with the

peace of the Lord; for I now expect from day to day, to offer up my

sacrifice. Pray God to keep me steadfast unto the end. I pray daily for

you.

WRITTEN IN BONDS.

GERRIT HASEPOOT BURNED, A. D. 1556.

In the summer of 1556 there was in the city of Nimeguen, a faithful

brother, named Gerrit Hasepoot, a tailor by trade. Having fled from the

city, on account of severe persecution, he secretly returned, since

his wife and children were still living there. He was seen by the

Bailiff’s guard, who reported it to their master. The Bailiff, a very

bloodthirsty man, immediately went after him, and took him with him.

Thus this friend of Christ had to separate from his wife and children,

and go into prison, tribulation and misery, for the name of Jesus.

When very severely examined by the lords of this world, he freely

confessed his faith, and was not ashamed of the truth. Rom. 1:16. He

was therefore sentenced to death by them, that is, to be burnt at the

stake, which sentence he received very bravely. This having taken

place, his wife came to him, into the city hall, to speak with him

once more, and to take leave and bid her dear husband farewell. She

had in her arm an infant, which she could scarcely hold, because of her

great grief. When wine was poured out to him, as is customary to do to

those sentenced to death (Prov. 31:6), he said to his wife: “I have no

desire for this wine; but I hope to drink the new wine, which will be

given to me above in the kingdom of my Father.” Thus the two separated

with great grief, and bade each other adieu in this world; for the

woman could hardly stand on her feet any longer, but seemed to fall

into a swoon through grief. When he was led to death, and having been

brought from the wagon upon the scaffold, he lifted up his voice, and

sang the hymn:

“Father in heaven, I call:

O strengthen now my faith.”

Thereupon he fell upon his knees, and fervently prayed to God. Having

been placed at the stake, he kicked his slippers from his feet, saying:

“It were a pity to burn them for they can be of service still to some

poor person.” The rope with which he was to be strangled, becoming a

little loose, having not been twisted well by the executioner, he again

lifted up his voice, and sang the end of said hymn:

“Brethren, sisters, all, good-bye!

We now must separate,

Till we meet beyond the sky,

With Christ our only Head:

For this yourselves prepare,

And I’ll await you there.”

The executioner again twisting the rope, this witness of Jesus fell

asleep in the Lord, and was burnt, voluntarily surrendering for the

truth, his perishable body, which he had received from God, and thus

fought the fight, finished his course, and kept the faith, and there is

now laid up for him the crown of eternal glory.

Previous to the year 1557, under the reign of the Palsgrave of the

Rhine, several of those baptized according to the ordinance of Christ

were cast into prison, and exiled from the country, as appears from the

preface to the _Frankenthalische Gespraech_, and also in the preface to

the _Oude Offerboeck_, of the year 1616, letter Y, on the other side.

From this it appears that the Baptist Christians at this time had

to suffer not only from the Romanists, but also from those who had

forsaken the Roman church and many of her superstitions; from which it

may be seen what great distress the church of God then had to suffer,

insomuch that freedom of conscience was nowhere to be found, since

among the papists they were deprived of their lives, and among other

denominations of the liberty to practice their religious worship.

HANS BRAEL SEVERELY PERSECUTED A. D. 1557.

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