CHAPTER XX

MISSION TO ENGLAND, 1897

I left for England via Montreal on the 31st May, 1897, and expected to

arrive in Liverpool a day or two before Sir Wilfrid Laurier, who was

to sail some days later from New York on a fast ship. We were delayed

for some days by fogs, and did not arrive in Liverpool till after Sir

Wilfrid Laurier had left that place. He had arrived in the old world

for the first time of his life, and at once fell into the hands of

the Liverpool merchants and business men, at that time generally free

traders. He had not a colleague with him and naturally was affected

by the atmosphere in which he found himself, and in his speech at

the great banquet given by the British Empire League with the Duke

of Devonshire in the chair, he made a few remarks in reference to

preferential tariffs for which he was severely criticised at home.

I joined the party at Glasgow two days later, and Sir Wilfrid, who

seemed pleased to see me, had a long talk with me between Glasgow

and Liverpool on the special train which took the party down. On the

following morning the Liverpool papers had cables from Canada giving

an account of the discussion in the Canadian House of Commons over the

cabled reports of Sir Wilfrid's speech. He was attacked vehemently by

Alexander McNeill, our champion in the House, on one point of his

speech at Liverpool, and Sir Richard Cartwright and his colleagues, in

defending Sir Wilfrid, did so on the ground that the reports of what he

said could not be taken as correct, and asking the House to withhold

comment until the full reports should be received. This was a desirable

course to adopt, for cable despatches have so often conveyed inaccurate

impressions.

The real secret of the trouble was that in the busy rush of his work as

leader of the opposition, and then as Premier, Sir Wilfrid had not been

able really to master the question, but he soon grasped the subject,

and his later speeches were very effective. His reception by the

British people was wonderfully favourable, and the impression he made

upon them was remarkable. He stood out from all the other Premiers--and

there were eleven in all--and he was everywhere the central and

striking figure.

On the 5th July, 1897, a meeting of the British Empire League was held

in the Merchant Taylors Hall. The Duke of Devonshire was in the chair

and made an able speech welcoming the Premiers from the colonies. He

was followed by Rt. Hon. R. J. Seddon, Premier of New Zealand, Sir

William Whiteway, Premier of Newfoundland, Mr. G. H. Reid, Premier

of New South Wales, and Sir Edward Braddon, Premier of Tasmania. Sir

Wilfred Laurier had not been able to attend, and as President of the

League in Canada I was called upon to speak. As to the treaties, I said:

I have come here from Canada to make one or two suggestions. In the

first place in reference to preferential tariffs, we have shown you

that we wish to give you a preference in our markets. (Cheers).

But treaties interfere with us in the management of our own tariff,

and I wish to emphasise the fact that some steps should be taken to

place us in absolute freedom to give every advantage we wish to our

fellow-countrymen all over the world. (Cheers.) We wish to give that

advantage to our own people, and we do not wish to be forced to give

it to the foreigner. (Hear, hear.) . . .

Now my last point is this. In Canada we have viewed with considerable

alarm the fact that the wealthiest and most powerful nation in all

history is at this moment dependent for her daily food for three out

of every four of her population upon two foreign nations, who are, I

am thankful to say, friendly to her, and who, I hope, will always be

friendly, but who, it cannot be denied, might by some possibility be

engaged in war with us at some future time. These two nations might

then stop your food supply, and that harm to you would spread great

distress among the people of our country. I have been deputed by the

League in Canada to ask you to look carefully into this question. If

there is no real danger, relieve our fears; but if you find there is

any danger let me urge upon you as strongly as I can to take some

steps to meet that danger. Let the method be what it may, great

national granaries, a duty on food, a bounty or what not, but let

something be done.

A special meeting of the Council of the League was held on the 7th

July, 1897, to meet the deputation of our League. In my address I once

more dealt with the question of the German and Belgian treaties. I

said, "The Canadian people have now offered, in connection with their

desire regarding these treaties, to give what they propose to all

nations, but with the express intention of giving an advantage to our

own people. I am deputed to ask you to use what influence you can on

the Government and people of this country to give us that full control

of our own tariff to which we contend we are entitled."

Lord Salisbury in 1890, although favourable to the idea, was not

able to secure the denunciation of the German and Belgian treaties,

although I knew from his conversation with me that personally he felt

that they should be denounced. In 1892 Lord Knutsford peremptorily

refused a request by Canada to denounce the treaties. Lord Ripon was

not quite so peremptory in 1894-'95 after the Ottawa Conference, but he

refused permission to Mr. Rhodes to arrange a discriminating tariff in

Matabeleland. We had been held off for six years, but the action of the

Canadian Government brought matters to a head.

During June and July, 1897, in London the most profuse and

large-hearted hospitality was shown on every hand to the colonial

visitors, and I was fortunate enough to be invited to all the large

functions. I felt the importance of taking every opportunity to press

upon the leading men in England the necessity for the denunciation of

the treaties, and I knew Sir Wilfrid Laurier could not urge it with the

freedom or force that I could. Consequently in private conversations

I talked very freely on the subject, whenever and wherever I had an

opportunity.

I found that in meeting friends, almost the first remark would be an

approving comment on the friendliness of the Canadian Parliament in

giving the British people a preference in the markets of Canada. My

reply always was that it was no more than was right, considering all

that Great Britain had done for us. This was usually followed by the

remark that the Government were afraid, from the first impression of

the law officers of the Crown, that Great Britain would not be able to

accept the favour. My reply was very confidently, "Oh yes! you will

accept it." Then the remark would be made that the German and Belgian

treaties would prevent it. "Then denounce the treaties," I would say.

"That would be a very serious thing, and would be hardly possible." My

reply was, "You have not fully considered the question, we have." Then

I would be asked what I meant, and would reply somewhat in these terms:

Consider the situation of affairs as they stand. To-day at every port

of entry in Canada from Sydney, Cape Breton, to Victoria in the Island

of Vancouver, along 3,500 miles of Canadian frontier, German goods

are charged one-eighth more duty than goods from Great Britain, and

goods from Great Britain one-eighth less duty than on German goods.

This was being done yesterday, is being done to-day, and will be done

to-morrow, and it is done by the Government of Canada, backed by a

unanimous Parliament, and behind it a determined and united people.

We have made up our minds and have thought it out, and have our teeth

set, and what are you going to do about it?

This did not usually bring out any indication that any clear decision

had been arrived at by them, and then I would go on:

Of course we know that you can send a large fleet to our Atlantic

ports, and another to our Pacific ports, and blockade them, paralyse

our trade, and stop our commerce, until we yield, or you may go

farther and bombard our defenceless cities, and kill our women and

children. Well, go on and do it, and we will still hold out, for we

know that any British Government that would dare to send her fleets

to jamb German goods down our throats when we want to buy British,

would be turned out of office before the ships could get across the

Atlantic. The thing is absurd, the treaties are an outrage, and the

only course out of the difficulty is to denounce them.

These arguments carried weight with all to whom I spoke, and I spoke

to Ministers, Privy Councillors on the Government side, M.P.'s, and

others. Once only the head of one of the great daily newspapers seemed

to be annoyed at my aggressive attitude, and said, "You had better

not be too sure. We might send the fleet and be very ugly with you."

My reply was, "Well, go on and send it. You lost the southern half

of North America by trying to cram tea down their throats, and you

may lose the northern half if you try to cram German goods down our

throats. I should have hoped you had learned something from history."

It will be seen that the plan which was, I understand, originated by

D'Alton McCarthy, worked out very successfully. There could only be

one result, and within a month the treaties were denounced, and I felt

that the first great step of our programme had been made. The amusing

feature, however, was, that this object for which we fought so hard

three years before at the meeting at Lord Avebury's, when the British

Empire League was founded, and which was opposed by nearly all our

English friends, was no sooner announced as accomplished, than men of

all parties and views seemed to unite in praising the act, and the

Cobden Club even went so far as to present the Cobden Medal to Sir

Wilfrid Laurier.

Sir Wilfrid Laurier in all his speeches had upheld abstract theories

of free trade, and with considerable skill succeeded in allaying the

hostility of the free trade element. This, I think, helped to secure

the denunciation of the treaties, with the approval of all parties. On

my return to Canada I was interviewed in Montreal by the representative

of the Toronto _Globe_. Being asked by the reporter my opinion of the

probable effect of the denunciation of the German and Belgian treaties,

I said:

The denunciation of these treaties marks an epoch in the history of

the British Empire. The power of Canada has made itself felt not

only in British but in European diplomacy. It has affected Germany,

Belgium, and other countries, and every one of these countries knows

that it was Canada's influence that produced the result. Another point

in connection with the denunciation of these treaties is, that it is

a tremendous step towards preferential trade within the Empire. Great

Britain was going along half asleep. Canada has awakened her, and made

her sit up and think. She has been jostled out of the rut she has been

following, and is now in a position to proceed in the direction that

may be in her own interest and in that of the Empire.

Being then asked if I had any opinions to express in regard to the

Premier's remarks in Great Britain on the question of free trade, I

said:

His remarks were general and theoretical. The great point of the whole

movement was to secure the denunciation of the treaties. Nothing could

be done while these treaties were in existence, and in my opinion

it would have been a most indiscreet thing for Sir Wilfrid Laurier

to have pursued any line of argument that would have aroused the

hostility of the great free trade party in Great Britain. The great

point was to secure the united influence of all parties in favouring

the denunciation of the treaties, which was an important step in

advance.

Being asked to account for the fact that Sir Howard Vincent, of the

United Empire Trade League, a strong protectionist, and the Cobden Club

both united in applauding the denunciation of the treaties, I replied:

Sir Howard Vincent and his League saw plainly that this action made

for a preferential tariff. The Cobden Club are whistling to keep up

their courage.

In the Conference of Premiers, held in 1897, it was not possible to

secure an arrangement for mutual preferential tariffs. The other

colonies were not ready for it, the Imperial Government was not ready

for it, nor were the people, but as the German and Belgian Treaties

were denounced to take effect the following year, in August, 1898, the

path was cleared, and from that date the Canadian Preference came into

force, and has since been in operation.

It will be remembered that the deputation of our British Empire League

to England, in 1897, was instructed to express the great desire of

the Canadian Branch that, as a guarantee of the general safety of the

Empire, vigorous steps should at once be taken to provide that the

British Food supply should be grown within the Empire. As chairman of

the deputation I did all in my power to stir up inquiry on the subject.

Being introduced to Principal Ward of Owens College, Manchester, when

at that city, I talked freely with him on the point, and he suggested I

should discuss it with Mr. Spencer Wilkinson, the well-known author and

journalist. He gave me a letter introducing me to Mr. Wilkinson, and we

had several interviews. Shortly after reaching London I called to see

my friend Lord Wolseley, then Commander-in-Chief. He took me with him

to his house to lunch, and as we walked over, I at once broached the

subject of the food supply, principally wheat and flour, and he told

me that the Government had been urged to look into the matter some two

or three years before, and that there had been a careful inquiry by

the best experts, and the report was that the command of the sea was

a _sine quâ non_, but if we maintained that, and paid the cost which

would be much increased by war prices, the country could get all the

grain they would want.

I said suppose a war with Russia and the United States, what would be

done if they combined and put an embargo on bread-stuffs? How would it

be got then even with full command of the sea? He did not seem himself

to have understood the difficulty, or studied the figures, and said,

"I cannot explain the matter. All I can say is that the Government

obtained the advice of the best men in England on the subject, and

that is their report." My reply was, "I wish you would look into it

yourself," and I dropped the subject.

I met Lord Roberts shortly after and I pressed the matter upon him. He

had not known of the Government report, and consequently listened to my

arguments attentively and seemed impressed, for I may say that 1897 was

the worst year in all our history as to the manner in which the supply

of food was distributed among the nations.

Mr. Spencer Wilkinson seemed to be much interested in my talks with

him, and one day he said, "I wish you could have a conversation with

some great authority on the other side of the question, who would

understand the matter and be able to answer you." I replied, "That is

what I should like very much. Tell me the best man you have and I will

tackle him. If he throws me over in the gutter in our discussion it

will be a good thing, for then I shall learn something." Mr. Wilkinson

laughed at my way of putting it, and said, "If that is what you want,

Sir Robert Giffen is the man for you to see." I said I would try and

get a letter of introduction to him. Mr. Wilkinson said he would give

me one, and did so.

I called to see Sir Robert Giffen. He received me very kindly, and we

had an interesting interview of about an hour. The moment I broached

the subject of the food supply he said at once, "That question came up

some two or three years ago, and I was called upon to inquire into the

whole matter and report upon it, and my report in a few words was, that

we must have the command of the sea, and that once that was secured,

then, by paying the somewhat enhanced war prices, we could get all

the grain required." My reply was, "Then, as you have fully inquired

into the question, you can tell me what you could do under certain

conditions. In case of a war between Great Britain and Russia combined

with the United States, followed by an embargo on food products,

where and how would you get your supplies?" Sir Robert said, "We do

not expect to go to war with the United States and Russia at the same

time." I said, "You were within an ace of war with the United States

only a year ago over the Venezuelan difficulty, and Great Britain and

Russia have been snarling at each other over the Indian Frontier for

years, and if you go to war with either, you must count on having the

other on your hands."

Sir Robert then said, "But I said we must have the command of the sea."

I replied, "I will give you the complete, undoubted, absolute command

of the sea, everywhere all the time, although you are not likely to

have it; and then in case of an embargo on wheat and foodstuffs where

are you to get your supplies?" He said, "We would get some from Canada

and other countries." I pointed out that all they sent was only a

fraction. Sir Robert then said, "They could not put on an embargo,

for it would ruin their trade." I told him that I was talking about

war and not about peace and trade, and said that no desire for trade

induced the Germans to sell wheat to Paris during the siege of 1870.

His idea had been that, in case of war with Russia or the United

States, or both, holding the command of the sea, Great Britain would

allow foodstuffs to be exported to neutral countries such as Belgium or

Holland, and then England would import from those countries. My answer

to that was, that if England had the command of the sea, the United

States or Russia would have only one weapon, an embargo, and they would

certainly use it. He seemed cornered in the argument, and said, "Well,

if we cannot get bread we can eat meat. I eat very little bread." I

said, "The British people use about 360 lbs. per head of wheat per

annum, and about 90 lbs. of meat, and a great deal of meat would be

stopped too"; and I said on leaving, "I wish you would investigate this

thoroughly again, and let the Government know, for I know they are

depending upon your report at the War Office"; and then I left him.

When at Liverpool shortly after on my way back to Canada, I asked

the manager of the Bank of Liverpool, to whom I had a letter of

introduction, if he would introduce me to the highest authority on

the corn trade in Liverpool. He introduced me to the late Mr. Paul,

ex-President of the Corn Exchange, and I had a long conversation with

him on the question of the food supply. As soon as I mentioned the

subject he told me that the corn trade people in Liverpool had been

asked from London to make a report on the possibility of supplying

grain in case of war. Mr. Paul told me that they had considered the

matter (I suppose he meant the leading corn merchants), and that their

report was practically that they must have the command of the sea, that

was essential; but that secured, and the enhanced war prices paid, they

could supply all the corn required in any contingency. I questioned

him as I had Sir Robert Giffen and found the same underlying belief.

The law of supply and demand would settle the question. The corn

would be allowed to go in neutral ships to neutral ports, and then be

transhipped to England. An embargo had not been considered or treated

seriously as a possibility, and when I cornered him so that he could

not answer my arguments, he said, "Well, if we could not get wheat we

could live on potatoes." I told him potatoes could not be kept over

a year, that a large quantity was imported which would be stopped.

I said he had better make another report. The whole thing was very

disheartening to me, for I saw how the Government were depending upon

peaceful traders for information how to guard against war dangers.

In 1902 when Sir Michael Hicks-Beach, then Chancellor of the Exchequer,

proposed a small tax on wheat and flour, I was pleased to see that

Sir Robert Giffen was the first prominent man to write to the Press

endorsing and approving of the bread tax, as it was called. It showed

me that Sir Robert had carefully considered the question, and was manly

enough to advocate what was not altogether a popular idea.

After my return to Canada I prepared an article for the _Nineteenth

Century_ on the "Situation in England," and it appeared in the December

number, 1897. In this I pointed out the danger of the condition of

the food supply, and the article attracted a considerable amount of

attention in the British Press, in comments, notices, letters, etc. Sir

Michael Hicks-Beach in a speech at Bristol, in January, 1898, referred

to the question, and in a way contradicted the points I had brought out

in the _Nineteenth Century_ article. My conversations the summer before

with Lord Wolseley, Sir Robert Giffen, and Mr. Paul had so alarmed me

at the false security in which the Government were resting, that when

I saw Sir Michael Hicks-Beach relying on the same official reports,

I determined, although I had never met him, to write him direct, and

on the 20th January, 1898, I wrote, drawing his attention to a remark

which he was reported to have made that "in any war England would have

many friends ready to supply corn," and I said, "Our League sent a

deputation to England last summer to draw attention to the danger of

the food supply. I was chairman of it. Since my return I published

an article in the _Nineteenth Century_ giving our views. I enclose a

reprint which I wish you could read. If you have not time please give

me one minute to examine the enclosed diagram (cut out of the _Chicago

Tribune_) showing the corn export of the world. This shows that Russia

and the United States control, not including the Danubian ports, nearly

95 per cent. of the world's needs, and if they were to put an embargo

on the export of food of all kinds, where would be the 'many friends

ready to supply England with corn?'"

Sir Michael Hicks-Beach, now Lord St. Aldwyn, with great courtesy wrote

me a personal letter, in which he thanked me for my letter, and went on

to say:

I do not think that the sentence you quote "that in any war England

would have many friends ready to supply corn" quite accurately

represents what I said on that subject. The report was necessarily

much condensed. But it would be true if (say) we were at war with the

United States alone: or if we were at war with one or more of the

European Powers and the United States were neutral. In either of such

cases the interests of the neutral Powers in access to our market

would be so strong, that our enemy would not venture to close it to

them, in the only possible way, viz.: by declaring corn contraband of

war. And I think that if the United States were the neutral party,

self-interest would weigh more with them than their ill feeling

towards us, whatever the amount of that feeling may be.

It is possible, though most improbable, that the two great

corn-producing countries might be allied against us. If they were, I

believe that our navy would still keep the seas open for our supply

from other sources, though no doubt there would be comparative

scarcity and suffering. I am no believer in the enclosed diagram, the

production of corn is constantly increasing in new countries such as

the Argentine, and better communication is also increasing the total

amount available for export. Bad harvests in the United States and

Russia, and good ones in India and the Argentine, would show quite

another result to that shown in the enclosed, though, as I have said,

I do not believe it is true, even of the year which it professes to

represent.

On receipt of this letter I wrote to Mr. Geo. J. S. Broomhall, of

Liverpool, editor of the _Corn Trade News_, and author of the _Corn

Trade Year Book_, and received from him a certificate of the correct

figures of corn exports. I forwarded it to Sir Michael Hicks-Beach,

showing that in 1897 India and the Argentine only exported 200,000 qrs.

and 740,000 qrs. respectively, and that the diagram I sent could not

have been a very great way out. In 1902 Sir Michael Hicks-Beach put a

tax of one shilling a quarter on imported wheat, and as I have already

said, Sir Robert Giffen wrote to the _Times_ approving of it. I was

very glad to see this action on the part of both of them.

On the 4th December, 1897, the Hon. George W. Ross gave an address

before the British Empire League in St George's Hall, Toronto, in

which he strongly favoured preferential tariffs and came out squarely

against reciprocity with the United States. This action was a great

encouragement to our cause and attracted considerable attention all

over Canada.

On the 8th December, 1897, the National Club gave a complimentary

banquet to his Excellency the Earl of Aberdeen, Governor-General. I

attended the banquet and sat second to the left of the president of

the club, Mr. McNaught. I was under the impression that Mr. Blake, who

had been a few years away from Canada, and who had joined the Irish

Nationalist party, would be sure to speak in a strain not acceptable

to our club. I mentioned this to Dr. Parkin who sat next to me. When

Mr. Blake began to speak he very soon uttered sentiments strongly

opposed to all that the Canadians had been working for in the Imperial

interest. I said to Parkin that as an ex-president of the club,

and president of the British Empire League, I would not allow his

remarks to pass without comment. I leaned over and told the chairman

I intended to speak a few minutes when Mr. Blake finished. He raised

some objection, but I told him I must speak. He mentioned it to the

Governor-General, who said he would wait for fifteen minutes. I told

Dr. Parkin I would divide the time with him.

After Mr. Blake sat down, I said:

I have been a member of this club almost from its foundation. I was

for many years on the Board of Directors, and for some years its

President, and I feel that I should state that the speech of my friend

Mr. Blake does not represent the views nor the national aspirations

which have always been characteristic of the National Club. . . .

I agree with what Mr. Blake has said as to the importance of

preserving friendly relations with the United States. We hope to live

at peace with them, but because we do not wish to beg for reciprocity

or make humiliating concessions for the sake of greater trade, it is

no reason why we should be charged with wanting war. We want peace,

and no one can point to any instance where the Canadian people or

Government have been responsible for the irritation. Mr. G. W. Ross

pointed this out clearly in his admirable speech of Saturday night.

The great causes of irritation have come from the United States.

The invasion of 1775, the war of 1812, the Trent affair, and the

Venezuelan business were all matters in which we were absolutely free

from blame. Nor were we to blame some thirty years ago when I had to

turn out with my corps to help defend the frontier of this province

from the attacks of bands of Fenians, organised, armed, and equipped,

in the United States, who invaded our country, and shot down some of

my comrades, who died defending Canada. These raids were maintained

by contributions from our worst enemies in the United States,

but we drove them out, and now I am glad to say that, while the

contributions still go on, the proceeds are devoted to troubling the

Empire elsewhere, and I hope they will continue to be expended in that

direction rather than against us.

I approve of Mr. Blake's remarks about the defence of Canada, and the

expenditure of money to make our country safer, but I object strongly

to the hopeless view he takes. We are 6,000,000 of northern men, and,

fighting on our own soil for our rights and freedom, I believe we

could hold our own in spite of the odds against us, as our fathers did

in days gone by, when the outlook was much more gloomy.

Dr. George R. Parkin followed with an eloquent and powerful speech

pointing out the various arguments which showed the growth of the

movement for Imperial unity.

It was thought at that time that Mr. Blake had some idea of returning

to Canadian politics, but the result of this meeting and the Press

comments must have put an end to any such idea if it ever existed.

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