CHAPTER V.

AUGUST 27, 1805, President Jefferson, writing to Madison

from Monticello, said:[89] “Considering the character of Bonaparte, I

think it material at once to let him see that we are not of the Powers

who will receive his orders.” In Europe, on the same day, the Emperor

broke up the camp at Boulogne and set his army in motion toward Ulm and

Austerlitz. September 4 he was at Paris, busy with the thousand details

of imminent war: his armies were in motion, his vast diplomatic and

military plans were taking shape.

The United States minister at Paris had little to do except to watch

the course of events, when during the Emperor’s absence at Boulogne he

received a visit from a gentleman who had no official position, but who

brought with him a memorandum, written in Talleyrand’s hand, sketching

the outlines of an arrangement between the United States and Spain.

The United States, said this paper, should send another note to the

Government at Madrid, written in a tone and manner that would awaken

Spain from her indifference. In this note the Prince of Peace should

be warned of the consequences that would follow a persistence in his

course, and should be encouraged to join with the United States in

referring to Napoleon the matters in dispute. In case Spain would not

unite in asking the good offices of France, a copy of the note must be

sent by Armstrong to Talleyrand, with a request for the good offices

of Napoleon. “The more you refer to the decision of the Emperor, the

more sure and easy will be the settlement.” If Spain, on the Emperor’s

representations, should consent to part with the Floridas, as she no

doubt would do, France would propose the following terms: Commercial

privileges in Florida as in Louisiana; the Rio Colorado and a line

northwestwardly, including the headwaters of all those rivers which

fall into the Mississippi, as the western boundary of Louisiana, with

thirty leagues on each side to remain unoccupied forever; the claims

against Spain, excluding the French spoliations, to be paid by bills on

the Spanish colonies; and, finally, ten million dollars to be paid by

the United States to Spain.

Armstrong rejected the conditions on the spot. They sacrificed, he

said, the whole country between the Colorado and the Rio Bravo;

abandoned the claim to West Florida, the claim to damages from the

violation of _entrepôt_ at New Orleans, and the claim, estimated

at six millions, for French spoliations. They gave to Spain an

accommodation for her payments beyond what she herself required; and

they exacted the enormous sum of ten million dollars for a barren and

expensive province.

September 4, the day of Napoleon’s return to Paris, a long conversation

followed. On both sides vigorous argument was pressed; but the

Frenchman closed by saying: “I see where the shoe pinches. It is ‘the

enormous sum of ten million dollars;’ but say seven! Your undisputed

claims on Spain amount to two and a half or three millions. The

arrangement as thus altered would leave four for Spain. Is not this

sum within the limits of moderation?” Armstrong replied that he had

nothing to say on the money transaction, but would immediately transmit

Talleyrand’s memorandum to the President. His despatch on the subject

was accordingly sent, Sept. 10, 1805.[90]

Armstrong had little acquaintance with the person who brought the

memorandum for his sole credential, and knew him only as a political

agent of the government, who rested his claim to credit not on any

authority from the Emperor, but on an unsigned document in Talleyrand’s

handwriting. “This form of communication he said had been preferred on

account of greater security; it was a proof of the minister’s habitual

circumspection, and of nothing else.” To most Frenchmen it might have

seemed rather an example of Talleyrand’s supposed taste for jobbery,

and the United States government had reason to know what was likely

to be the outcome of such overtures; but Armstrong was not unused to

intrigue, and did not affect virtue above the comprehension of the

society in which he lived.

A fortnight afterward the Emperor left Paris for his campaign in

Germany. While Armstrong’s despatch was still on its way to Washington,

Napoleon captured Ulm, and November 13 entered Vienna. On the same day

the despatch reached the United States.

Jefferson’s Cabinet council of November 12 had barely come to its

long-disputed conclusion, and decided to reopen the Florida negotiation

as a French bargain, when Talleyrand’s memorandum arrived, fixing

definitely his terms. Naturally, the President supposed that Florida

might thenceforward be looked upon as his own. At the next Cabinet he

laid Armstrong’s letter before the four secretaries; and the result of

their deliberation was recorded in his own hand:[91]--

“November 19. Present the same.--Since our last meeting we have

received a letter from General Armstrong containing Talleyrand’s

propositions, which are equivalent to ours nearly, except as to

the sum, he requiring seven million dollars. He advises that we

alarm the fears of Spain by a vigorous language and conduct, in

order to induce her to join us in appealing to the interference

of the Emperor. We now agree to modify our propositions, so as

to accommodate them to his as much as possible. We agree to pay

five million dollars for the Floridas as soon as the treaty is

ratified by Spain, a vote of credit obtained from Congress,

and orders delivered us for the surrender of the country. We

agree to his proposition that the Colorado shall be our western

boundary, and a belt of thirty leagues on each side of it to be

kept unsettled. We agree that joint commissioners shall settle

all spoliations, and to take payment from Spain by bills on her

colonies. We agree to say nothing about the French spoliations

in Spanish ports which broke off the former convention. We

propose to pay the five millions after a simple vote of credit,

by stock redeemable in three years, within which time we can pay

it. We agree to order to the commanding officer at Natchitoches

to patrol the country on this side the Sabine and all the Red

River as being in our possession, except the settlement of Bayou

Pierre, which he is not to disturb unless they aggress; he is to

protect our citizens and repel all invasions of the preceding

country by Spanish soldiers; to take all offenders without

shedding blood, unless his orders cannot otherwise be executed.”

At last, after more than six months of hesitation, a Spanish policy

was fixed; and since it conceded every point which had been required

by France, the President might reasonably hope that his difficulties

were at an end. He did not venture to send instructions to Armstrong

at once, because the authority of Congress was needed before pledging

the government to pay so large a sum of money; but Congress was to

meet within a few weeks, and Jefferson could safely assume that the

instructions would not be delayed beyond the New Year.

The President was greatly relieved to see the end of this annoying

imbroglio; the more, because he could no longer shut his eyes to

the conduct of Great Britain. The merchants of Boston, New York,

Philadelphia, and Baltimore were frantic with rage and despair,

hearing every day of new seizures, which swelled their losses to a

sum then quite appalling, and carried ruin to their fairest fortunes.

The carrying-trade was not a matter about which Jefferson cared to

quarrel, for he held that Americans should not meddle with a commerce

which did not belong to them; yet the public anger was far stronger

against England than against Spain, and although the newspapers talked

incessantly of a Spanish war, Jefferson soon felt that he should find

great difficulty in preserving a British peace. That he should incline

to a war with Spain in alliance with England was natural; but under

no circumstances, and for no object, did Jefferson wish for war with

Great Britain. From the first he had relied upon his power to coerce

her by peaceable means; and the time had come when some coercion must

be applied. No one could longer doubt that Pitt meant to keep what he

had taken, and that the British policy was preconcerted with deliberate

purpose.

When Merry next called at the State Department he heard nothing more

about the misconduct of Spain or the advantages of a powerful British

navy.

“The lively sensation” produced by the seizures, wrote Merry

to Mulgrave,[92] December 2, “appears to have increased

considerably since I had the honor of writing to your Lordship

by the last mail. The commercial bodies at Philadelphia,

Baltimore, and Norfolk have held public meetings on this

subject, and come to resolutions to transmit to the Government

of the United States particular statements of the injuries they

allege to be sustaining daily in their trade. I am sorry to add

that those public prints which are considered as the organs of

the Government ... have of late lost sight in a great measure

of their complaints against Spain, with a view, as may be

suspected, to excite and direct the whole national indignation

against Great Britain....

“In addition, my Lord, to these circumstances, I have been sorry

to find in my recent conversations with Mr. Madison that he

has treated this subject in a much more serious light than he

had at first represented it to me. At my last interview with

him, two days ago, he said that he had flattered himself that

Mr. Monroe’s remonstrances to your Lordship would not only

have produced the liberation of all the vessels which should

have been detained previously to the 1st November, but that,

as that minister had been promised an answer in writing to his

representations, the reconsideration of the matter which would

probably have taken place before a written answer was given

might have induced his Majesty’s government, if not to give

up entirely, at least to modify to a tolerable degree, the

principle upon which they acted. It was true that the answer in

question had not as yet reached him, nor had he heard lately

from Mr. Monroe; but he had recently received information from

an authentic though not an official quarter, which gave him

the strongest reason to apprehend that if any reply at all in

writing should be made on the subject, it would contain nothing

satisfactory.”

Madison raised his tone awkwardly. Mysterious “information from an

authentic quarter” was scarcely sufficient ground for so abrupt a

change, but Merry failed to press him on this point. The secretary told

the British minister that the government of England had committed “an

act of commercial hostility on this country, and that the citizens of

the United States would have a just claim of indemnity for whatever

effective losses they might sustain in consequence of it; and he feared

that these would be very considerable.” He hinted that measures would

be taken to seek redress; and although he did not then foreshadow these

measures, Merry read two days afterward in the “National Intelligencer”

the Resolutions and speech in which Madison, in the year 1794, had

urged commercial restrictions as the true policy of the United States

against the same British outrages. The motive of republication was

plain.

At about the same time Madison finished his pamphlet called

“Examination of the British Doctrine,” which in the course of the

coming session was laid on the desk of every senator and member. The

book was creditable to his literary and scholarly qualities. Clear,

calm, convincing, it left the British government no excuse for its

conduct; but, not without reason, John Randolph objected that as an

argument it was but a shilling pamphlet against eight hundred British

ships of war. That Pitt could occasionally be convinced of his mistakes

was certain; but no reasoners except Napoleon and Moreau had ever

effectually convinced him.

Meanwhile the President prepared his Message. Of all Jefferson’s

writings none had a livelier interest than the Annual Message at the

meeting of the Ninth Congress. The Second Inaugural, nine months

before, prepared the public for new political opinions; but the Message

surprised even those who looked for surprises. The Second Inaugural

seemed to sweep old Republican principles to the common rubbish-heap

of out-worn political toys. The Message went even further, and seemed

to announce that the theory of foreign affairs on which the Republican

Administration began its career must be abandoned. Jefferson intended

it to carry such a meaning.

“The love of peace,” he wrote to one of his old friends,[93]

“which we sincerely feel and profess, has begun to produce an

opinion in Europe that our government is entirely in Quaker

principles, and will turn the left cheek when the right has

been smitten. This opinion must be corrected when just occasion

arises, or we shall become the plunder of all nations. The moral

duties make no part of the political system of those governments

of Europe which are habitually belligerent.”

The Message began by an allusion to the yellow fever; from which it

quickly turned to discuss the greater scourge of war:--

“Since our last meeting the aspect of our foreign relations has

considerably changed. Our coasts have been infested and our

harbors watched by private armed vessels; some of them without

commissions, some with illegal commissions, others with those of

legal form, but committing piratical acts beyond the authority

of their commissions.... The same system of hovering on our

coasts and harbors, under color of seeking enemies, has been

also carried on by public armed ships, to the great annoyance

and oppression of our commerce. New principles, too, have been

interpolated into the law of nations, founded neither in justice

nor the usage or acknowledgment of nations.... With Spain our

negotiations for a settlement of differences have not had a

satisfactory issue.... Propositions for adjusting amicably the

boundaries of Louisiana have not been acceded to.... Inroads

have recently been made into the territories of Orleans and the

Mississippi; our citizens have been seized and their property

plundered in the very parts of the former which had actually

been delivered up by Spain, and this by the regular officers and

soldiers of that government. I have therefore found it necessary

at length to give orders to our troops on that frontier to be

in readiness to protect our citizens and to repel by arms any

similar aggressions in future. Other details necessary for your

full information of the state of things between this country

and that shall be the subject of another communication. In

reviewing these injuries from some of the belligerent Powers,

the moderation, the firmness, and the wisdom of the Legislature

will all be called into action. We ought still to hope that

time, and a more correct estimate of interest as well as of

character, will produce the justice we are bound to expect; but

should any nation deceive itself by false calculations, and

disappoint that expectation, we must join in the unprofitable

contest of trying which party can do the other the most harm.

Some of these injuries may perhaps admit a peaceable remedy.

Where that is competent it is always the most desirable. But

some of them are of a nature to be met by force only, and all of

them may lead to it.”

From this preamble the public would naturally infer that measures of

force were to be the object of the special message promised in regard

to Spanish aggressions. As though to leave no doubt on the subject,

the President urged the fortification of seaports, the building of

gunboats, the organization of militia, the prohibition of the export of

arms and ammunition; and added that the materials for building ships of

the line were on hand.

All this formality of belligerent language was little better than

comedy. Jefferson could hardly be charged with a wish to deceive, since

he could not wear the mask of deception. Both friends and enemies

were amused to see how naturally he betrayed objects which his plan

required should be concealed. In the first draft of the Message, sent

for correction to Gallatin, the financial prospect was as pacific as

the diplomatic was warlike; the Message not only announced a surplus

for the coming year, but suggested the reduction of taxes. Gallatin

pointed out that the English seizures alone would affect the revenue,

and any measure of retaliation would still further diminish it; while

the navy had increased its estimates from six hundred and fifty

thousand dollars to one million and seventy thousand dollars. As for

the hint at a reduction of taxes, Gallatin at once struck it out.[94]

“As it relates to foreign nations, it will certainly destroy the

effect intended by other parts of the Message. They never can think us

serious in any intentions to resist, if we recommend at the same time a

diminution of our resources.” The President made these corrections, and

returned the draft for revisal, with a note:[95]--

“On reviewing what had been prepared as to Great Britain and

Spain, I found it too soft toward the former compared with the

latter, and that so temperate a notice of the greater enormity

of British invasions of right might lessen the effect which

the strong language toward Spain was meant to produce at the

Tuileries. I have therefore given more force to the strictures

on Britain.”

In studying “the effect which the strong language toward Spain was

meant to produce at the Tuileries,” Jefferson had in mind the effect

which his strong language produced at the Tuileries in 1803. He

played a game of finesse hardly safe in the face of men like Godoy,

Talleyrand, and Napoleon, whose finesse was chiefly used to cover

force, and was not betrayed or derided by factious opposition in the

press. Besides being unsafe, it was unfair to himself. Jefferson was an

honest man, and in putting on the outward appearance of a Talleyrand,

he resembled an amateur imitating Talma and Garrick. Gestures and tones

alike were unnatural, awkward, and false; they exposed him to ridicule.

If President Jefferson had taken the public into his confidence,

he would have told the people that under no circumstances would he

consent to war; but that if the great Powers of Europe combined to

injure America, she would close her ports, abandon her commerce, shut

herself within her own continent, and let the world outside murder

and rob elsewhere. Such an avowal implied no disgrace; the policy it

proclaimed was the alternative to war; and as the radical doctrine of

the Republican party, the course was not only that which Jefferson

meant to take, but it was that which he took. The avowal might have

invited aggression, and have been followed by failure; but he would

have done better to fail on a direct issue of principle, than to fail

after evading the issue until the issue itself was lost.

To carry out his scheme, the President put forward two policies,--a

public and a secret; or, as he called it, an ostensible and a real one.

The warlike recommendations of the Annual Message were the public

and ostensible policy; the real one was to be expressed in a secret

message, announced in advance. To this coming message the President

next turned his attention; but he found himself quickly involved in

complications of his own creating. He had not only to recommend a

double series of measures to Congress, but he had to frame a double

series of replies which Congress was to return to him. He tried at

first to combine the two answers in one. After writing a secret message

asking for money to buy Florida, he drafted a series of Resolutions[96]

which Congress was to adopt in reply to both messages at once, and

in which “the citizens of the United States, by their Senate and

Representatives in Congress assembled, do pledge their lives and

fortunes” to maintain the line of the Sabine and the free navigation

of the Mobile, pending negotiations, while the President should be

authorized to take whatever unappropriated moneys might lie in the

Treasury in order to carry these Resolutions into effect.

Clearly this would not do; and Gallatin undertook to set the matter

right.

“The apparent difficulty in framing the Resolutions,” he wrote

to the President,[97] “arises from the attempt to blend the

three objects together. The same reasons which have induced the

President to send two distinct messages render it necessary

that the public Resolutions of Congress should be distinct from

the private ones; that those which relate to the war posture of

the Spanish affairs, which are intended to express the national

sense on that subject, and to enable the President to take the

steps which appear immediately necessary on the frontier, should

not be mixed with those proceedings calculated only to effect an

accommodation.”

The Secretary of the Treasury frequently corrected his chief, and still

more frequently hinted a correction. Only a few days had passed since

Jefferson had spoken to Gallatin of the “strong language toward Spain”

as “meant to produce an effect at the Tuileries.” Gallatin ignored this

object, and spoke of the strong language toward Spain as intended to

express the national sense, and as restricted in its bearing to the

steps immediately necessary for protecting the frontier. The difference

was worth noting. Evidently Gallatin felt no great confidence in

producing an effect on the Tuileries.

“The course now recommended,” he continued, “is precisely that

which was followed in the Louisiana business when the deposit

was withdrawn. A public Resolution ... was moved by Randolph,

and adopted by the House. A committee in the mean while brought

in a confidential report sufficient to support and justify

the President in the purchase he was going to attempt, and to

this an appropriation law in very general terms was added. To

follow a similar course appears not only best, but will also,

as founded on precedent, be the smoothest mode of doing the

business in Congress.”

The President adopted Gallatin’s suggestions.[98] The double messages

breathing war and peace were prepared. The double answers were sketched

out. Congress had only to act with the same quickness and secrecy which

it had shown in the Louisiana business; and of its readiness to do so,

no one in the Cabinet seemed to doubt.

Yet nations could not so readily as individuals swing about on a course

opposite to that which they had been led to expect. The American

public had been wrought to anger against Spain. Of the negotiations

little was publicly known. Monroe had come, and gone; the Marquis

Yrujo had remonstrated, and had written in newspapers; but the rights

and wrongs of the Spanish dispute remained a mystery to the public at

large, which knew only that Spain had rejected all the offers made by

the United States, had resumed her depredations on American commerce,

and had taken a menacing attitude at Mobile and on the Sabine.

Throughout the year the Republican press had followed hints from the

Government at Washington, all looking toward a rupture with Spain. The

same newspapers had shown at first a wish to make light of the late

British seizures,--a course which misled the Federalist press into

denunciations of England such as would never have been risked had the

party in power not seemed disposed to apologize for England’s conduct.

The country at large was prepared to hear the President advise a

rupture with Spain, and upon that rupture to found his hope of success

in negotiating with Pitt. The warlike tone of the Annual Message was

certain to give additional strength to this expectation; and Jefferson

might have foreseen that the sudden secret change of tone to be taken

immediately afterward in the special message on Spanish affairs would

produce bewilderment among his followers.

No one could doubt where the confusion would first appear. The last

session had ended in a series of quarrels, in which party distinctions

had been almost forgotten. The summer had done nothing to reunite

the factions; on the contrary, it had done much to widen the breach.

Already the “Aurora” announced that the Yazoo question was to determine

“the relations, the principles, the characters, and the strength of

parties in the next session of Congress;” and the public knew that

the Yazoo question had passed beyond the stage of rational argument,

and had become the test of personal devotion, the stepping-stone to

favor or proscription with the next President. Three years before the

election of 1808 Congress was already torn by a Virginia feud,--a

struggle for power between John Randolph and James Madison.

As though to hurry and prolong this struggle, Jefferson announced,

after his second inauguration, that he should retire at the close of

his term, March 4, 1809. Without expressly recommending Madison as his

successor, his strong personal attachment insured to the Secretary of

State the whole weight of Executive influence. The whole weight was

needed. The secretary, with all his amiable qualities, was very far

from controlling the voice of Virginia. His strength lay rather among

the Northern democrats, semi-Federalists, or “Yazoo men,” as they

were called, who leaned toward him because he, of all the prominent

Virginians, was least Virginian. His diplomatic triumph in buying

Louisiana had given him an easy advantage over his rivals; but even his

reputation might sink with the failure of the Spanish treaty and the

aggression of England.

No one who knew the men, or who had followed the course of President

Jefferson’s first Administration, could feel surprise that Madison’s

character should act on John Randolph as an irritant. Madison was

cautious, if not timid; Randolph was always in extremes. Madison was

apt to be on both sides of the same question, as when he wrote the

“Federalist” and the Virginia Resolutions of 1798; Randolph pardoned

dalliance with Federalism in no one but himself. Madison was in person

small, retiring, modest, with quiet malice in his humor, and with

marked taste for closet politics and delicate management; Randolph

was tall in stature, abrupt in manner, self-asserting in temper,

sarcastic, with a pronounced taste for publicity, and a vehement

contempt for those silent influences which more practical politicians

called legitimate and necessary, but which Randolph, when he could

not control them, called corrupt. Jefferson soon remarked, in regard

to what Randolph denounced as back-stairs influence, “We never heard

this while the declaimer was himself a back-stairs man.”[99] Just as

the criticism was, no one could deny that Randolph seemed much out of

place on the back-stairs of the White House, whereas Madison seemed

to him in place nowhere else. The Spanish papers, which Randolph must

read, were not likely to increase his respect for the Secretary of

State; while Madison’s candidacy made a counter-movement necessary for

those Virginians who would not be dragged at the heels of the Northern

democracy.

Long before the month of December Randolph foresaw the coming trouble.

The Yazoo men in the Ninth Congress were more numerous than ever; and

they were credited with the wish to eject Speaker Macon from the chair,

and to put some Northern democrat in Randolph’s place at the head of

the Committee of Ways and Means. Oct. 25, 1805, Randolph wrote to

Gallatin from Bizarre:--

“I look forward to the ensuing session of Congress with no very

pleasant feelings. To say nothing of the disadvantages of the

place, natural as well as acquired, I anticipate a plentiful

harvest of bickering and blunders; of which, however, I hope

to be a quiet, if not an unconcerned, spectator.... I regret

exceedingly Mr. Jefferson’s resolution to retire, and almost

as much the premature annunciation of that determination. It

almost precludes a revision of his purpose, to say nothing

of the intrigues which it will set on foot. If I were sure

that Monroe would succeed him, my regret would be very much

diminished.”[100]

Intrigue and dissension could not be confined to the House, but must

spread to the Senate, and could hardly fail to affect even the Cabinet.

While Gallatin’s personal sympathies were with Madison, his political

bias was on the opposite side. The old Republicans, with John Randolph

at their head, had steadily protected the Treasury from jobs and

extravagance; without their help Gallatin would lie at the mercy of

the Northern democrats, who were not behind the Federalists in their

willingness to spend money. He might expect an alliance between the

Northern democrats and the Smith faction which controlled the Navy

Department. To such a combination he must have foreseen that Madison

would yield.

In the face of such latent feuds nothing could be more hazardous than

to spring upon Congress, in Madison’s interests, a new, tortuous,

complicated Spanish policy, turning on the secret assurance that France

could be bribed with five million dollars, at the moment when Congress

would be required to begin a commercial war upon England. Whether

Madison was responsible for these measures or not, his enemies would

charge him with the responsibility; and even without such attacks from

his own party, he was struggling with enemies enough to have crushed

Jefferson himself.

Early in December, all the actors in the drama assembled, to play

another act in a tragi-comedy of increasing interest. With his

old sanguine hopes, but not with all his old self-confidence, the

President watched them slowly arrive,--Democrats, Federalists, Southern

Republicans, all equally ignorant of what had been done, and what

they were expected to do; but more curious, better-informed, and more

sharp-sighted than these, the three diplomatists, Turreau, Merry,

and Yrujo, waiting with undisguised contempt to see what species of

coercion was to be employed against England, France, and Spain.

To impose on hostile forces and interests the compulsion of a single

will was the task and triumph of the true politician, which had

been accomplished, under difficult conditions, by men of opposite

characters. A political leader might be combative and despotic, or

pliant and conciliatory. The method mattered little, provided it

obtained success,--but success depended more on character than on

manœuvres. In the winter of 1805–1806 President Jefferson dealt with

a problem such as few Americans have been required to solve. Other

Presidents have met with violent opposition both within and without

the ranks of their party; but no other President has been obliged to

face a hostile minority, together with violent factiousness in the

majority, and at the same time a spirit of aggression showing itself

in acts of war from three of the greatest Powers of Europe. By what

resources of skill or character President Jefferson was to restrain

this disorder from becoming chaos, only a prophet could foretell. If

ever the Federalist “crisis” seemed close at hand, it was in December,

1805. Some energetic impulse could alone save the country from drifting

into faction at home and violence abroad.

All might go well if England, France, and Spain could be obliged to

respect law. To restrain these three governments was Jefferson’s most

urgent need. The three envoys waited to see what act of energy he would

devise to break through the net which had been drawn about him. Turreau

enjoyed most of his confidence; and soon after the meeting of Congress,

at the time when Jefferson was publicly using “strong language toward

Spain,” meant to produce an effect at the Tuileries, Turreau wrote

interesting accounts of his private conversation for the guidance of

Talleyrand and Napoleon;[101]--

“One may perhaps draw some inferences in regard to the true

sense of the Message from some words which escaped the President

in a private conversation with me. ‘I see with pain,’ he

said, ‘that our people have a tendency toward commerce which

no other kind of interest will be able to balance; we should

be essentially agricultural, and yet agriculture will never

be more than a secondary interest here.’... In a preceding

interview the President invited me to a discussion of Spanish

affairs.... After some complaints about Spanish privateers,

and the protection which Spain granted to ours in particular,

Mr. Jefferson expanded on the griefs of the Americans in

regard to some excursions of Spanish patrols beyond the limits

provisionally established, and, in consequence, within the

territory of Louisiana. I replied that doubtless the Spanish

government had not authorized these steps, and that the mistakes

of a few subalterns could not produce serious differences

between the two Powers. ‘That is true; but,’ he added, ‘these

Spaniards are so stupid (_bêtes_), their government so

detested,’ etc. It was not easy to contradict him on this

point. As for the English, his complaints and reproaches have

been much more serious. He has assured me that they have taken

five hundred American ships; that they could not have done

more harm had they been at war with America; yet that England

would in vain try, as against the Americans, to destroy neutral

rights. ‘In that respect,’ added Mr. Jefferson, ‘we have

_principles_ from which we shall never depart; our people

have commerce everywhere, and everywhere our neutrality should

be respected. On the other hand, we do not want war,--and all

this is very embarrassing.’”

Turreau’s comment on these words may have affected the policy of

Napoleon, as it must certainly have had weight with Talleyrand:--

“If your Excellency was not already acquainted with the man and

his government, this last phrase would be enough to enable you

to judge the one and the other.”

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