JOSEPH DOWNEY.

They met at 3:30 o'clock Tuesday afternoon, there being present the

following representatives:

Master Masons--Joseph Downey, George Tapper, George H. Fox, C. W.

Hellman, William O'Brien and Charles W. Gindele.

Bricklayers--A. E. Vorkeller and Messrs. Taylor, Charles,

Householder and Kraus.

At the conference it was distinctly understood that the code of

principles was to be first adopted and then they would arbitrate other

questions. The whole talk was agreed and understood to be unofficial.

Mr. Vorkeller then stated that he would call a special meeting of the

union and see what could be done. Mr. Downey then read the following

letter, which he had received from President Vorkeller:

CHICAGO, June 10, 1887.

MR. JOSEPH DOWNEY, President Master Masons' Association--_Dear

Sir_: In accordance with interview with you on the 7th inst. in

relation to appointing a committee with power to act, for the

purpose of arbitration, and, if possible, end the differences which

exist between our associations, and which are causing increased

uneasiness, not only to those on both sides who are immediately

concerned, but also to the public at large, who have been patient

witnesses to this uncalled for and unnecessary lockout, so far as

we are concerned we court the fullest investigation from the public

of our side of the case without having the least fear of the

result; but we are willing, and have agreed in special meeting, to

send a committee to settle this difficulty honorably to ourselves

as well as to you, according to the aforesaid interview. If this

suits your convenience you will please notify us immediately, if

possible, and oblige yours respectfully,

A. E. VORKELLER, President.

Mr. Charles W. Gindele remarked that when he entered the room where the

meeting was held he made the announcement that the talk should be

unofficial, which all acceded to. After a long conference they were led

to conclude that the bricklayers would concede nearly everything but

nine hours a day. The bricklayers were informed that they must adopt the

platform of principles before there could be any arbitration.

Mr. George H. Fox said Mr. Gindele's statement was correct, and it was

distinctly understood that the representatives of the bricklayers should

go before their own people and adopt the platform of principles.

Mr. George Tapper, who was also at the meeting, said his impression of

the conference was decidedly unfavorable. He had then called the

attention of Mr. Vorkeller to the clause in the constitution of the

Union in regard to apprentices, and told him that if he (Tapper) had a

son who did not get his schooling before he was 18 years of age he would

be debarred from learning the trade of a bricklayer. In reply to this

Vorkeller had made the astounding statement that there was no trouble in

such a case. All the boy had to do was to say he was 18 years old and he

was all right, as they had boys come to them with long mustaches and had

fixed them all right. Mr. Tapper said he replied by saying that was

teaching boys to lie, and gave them the first steps toward the

penitentiary, and if that was their way of doing business he wanted

nothing more to do with them. He also said that Vorkeller had agreed

that the section of the platform of principles providing for the free

right to employ or to work was right, but when asked if his men would

work alongside a non-union man he had said: "No; they would quit and

carry off their tools." Mr. Tapper said he was disgusted with the whole

business.

Mr. C. P. Wakeman thought it would be no harm to appoint a committee to

confer with the Union committee. He thought also that the appointment of

the committee by the Union was an acknowledgment of the code of

principles. If the Master Masons demanded more than partial justice they

would lose.

Mr. A. J. Hageman said if the Bricklayers' Union had not acknowledged

the principles of the Master Masons there was nothing yet to arbitrate.

Mr. C. W. Gindele said he understood the Bricklayers were to submit what

they wanted to arbitrate, but they had not done so.

Mr. E. Earnshaw said from the reading of the letter the Union had

nothing to concede. It was endeavoring to lead the Masons into a trap in

order to make capital out of it. By saying they "court the fullest

investigation" the unionists emphatically claimed that they were right

and the Master Masons were all wrong.

Mr. Downey stated that Mr. Vorkeller had frequently stated to him that

he was in favor of the code of principles, but would have to "shin

around" to induce the union to recognize them, fearing he would not be

successful.

Mr. George C. Prussing said the arbitration movement had been instituted

to keep the Union men together, as many of them were leaving, and an

effort was being made to make these men understand that if a settlement

should be reached they would be shut out. No arbitration should be had

which meant only partial justice. There were principles that could not

be arbitrated. When the Union amended its constitution so as to conform

to their principles the Builders would be ready to join hands with them.

Or, if a new Union should be organized on such a basis, it would be met

with open hands. Compromise they would not. It would be stultification.

The vote on the motion to appoint the committee was lost, only eight

voting in favor of it.

A motion was made to lay the communication on the table, which

prevailed, only ten voting against it.

Mr. G. C. Prussing submitted the following, which was adopted as the

sense of the meeting, with but one dissenting vote:

The position of this Association can hardly be misunderstood at

this late day. It has been laid down in our platform in

unmistakable language, and is further contained in an address to

the Bricklayers and Stonemasons of Chicago and published by the

public press.

We have addressed them as individuals, and shall continue to treat

them as individuals, not an organization. Principles can never be

subject to arbitration. And such matters as can properly be

arbitrated--such as hours of work, wages, or other working

rules--can not be discussed with any committee until an

organization is in existence which has adopted the principle of

individual liberty freely and fully, and is governed by

constitution and by-laws based thereon.

This community has suffered too often and too long, and the

sacrifices brought have been too great to listen to any hint of a

possible arbitration or compromise. We owe it to ourselves; to the

other building trades who have taken the position held by us, we

owe it to the entire community to settle the present troubles

right. That is, on a basis that promises security against future

arbitrary interruptions of business.

To individuals we are ready to give work; we guarantee them steady

employment as far as in our power, and will protect them in every

way, and if the men who now take up their tools should choose to

form an organization for mutual protection and any other honorable

and lawful purposes, based on the principles we acknowledge, we

will aid and assist them in perfecting such organization, and will

treat with them, and arbitrate any and all questions properly

subject to arbitration.

After the meeting adjourned Mr. Downey sent a communication to Mr.

Vorkeller in reply to his letter, of which the following is a copy:

A. E. VORKELLER, President, etc.--_Dear Sir_: Your letter of this

day contained more than a surprise for me. Any and all interviews

held with you by me and other members of our Association were at

your seeking and request, and with the distinct understanding that

we were acting in our own individual capacity, without any

authority from any organized body, and that I, as president of the

Master Masons' association, have no authority to appoint any

committee for purposes set forth in your communication. Nor is your

letter written in the spirit you proposed, or your position as

given by yourself in interviews with me. You certainly must have

understood, for it was repeated over and over again, that I would

not consent to any effort at arbitration until your body shall have

adopted, plainly and fairly, the principles held by us as an

Association. I refer to principles as stated in our platform. Nor

can such agreement be expressed by a simple vote, but must be shown

by eliminating all sections of your constitution and by-laws in

conflict therewith.

Your letter has been placed before our Association, and by it was

laid on the table. Our position is again outlined by resolution

adopted, and will be found in the daily papers.

Very respectfully yours,

JOSEPH DOWNEY, President.

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