OLD FOGIES.

(Vol. vii., p. 632.)

At the place above referred to, MR. KEIGHTLEY puts to me several Queries;

but being resident in the country, I had not an opportunity of seeing

them till the 15th instant, and it took some days to get the information

that would enable me to answer them.

I have now obtained the most ample evidence of the existence, in the

latter part of the last, and the beginning of the present, centuries, of

the existence of a peculiar body of men called the _Fogies_, in Edinburgh

Castle. My informants agree in describing them as old men, dressed in

red coats with apple-green facings, and cocked hats. One says that they

fired the Castle guns; another says that he understood them to be the

keepers, or, as we might say, the warders of the Castle, and that they

were sometimes brought into the town to assist in quelling riots; and

this gentleman's recollection of them goes back to 1784 at least. But the

oldest date I have been able to get is from a much respected friend, the

retired Town Clerk of Edinburgh, who writes to me thus: "I have a most

vivid recollection of the _Castle Foggies_. They were an invalid company,

and my recollection of them goes as far back at least as 1780, when I was

at Stalker's English school in the Lawnmarket."

To the testimony of these still living witnesses, I have to add that of

Dr. Jamieson, who gives the word in his _Dictionary_ as one of common

and well-known use in Scotland in his time, 1759-1808; though he may

have mistaken in supposing it to be exclusively Scottish. It was for his

testimony to this _fact_ that I referred to Dr. Jamieson's _Dictionary_,

and not for his etymology, for I am not so much of a "true Scot" as

to consider him infallible in that department. I have not leisure at

present to search any farther for the word in books, but in the meantime

I presume to think the evidence I have procured of its use in Scotland,

will carry us nearly as far back as MR. KEIGHTLEY'S for its use in

Ireland.

I cannot pretend to much acquaintance with the Swedish language, but

I was quite well aware that that "is what is meant by the mysterious

Su.-G." I was also aware that in the kindred Teutonic tongues the word

runs through the various forms of _vogt_, _fogat_, _phogat_, _voget_,

_voogd_, _fogde_, _foged_, _fogeti_, with the meaning of bailiff,

steward, preses, watchman, guard or protector, tutor, overseer, judge,

mayor, policeman; and I doubt not that _fogie_ belongs to the same

family, though it has lost its tail. MR. KEIGHTLEY does not need to

be told that words frequently degenerate in meaning, falling from the

noblest to the basest, from the purest to the most obscene. Is there then

anything improbable in supposing that a word once applied to the governor

or chief keeper of a castle, came at last to be applied to all, even the

meanest, of his subordinates? Dr. Jamieson asserts that the word _fogde_

in the Su.-G. has actually had that fate; can MR. KEIGHTLEY controvert

him?

As a proof, _quantum valeat_, that the _Castle fogies_ were so called for

some other reason than merely because of their being "old folks," I may

mention that there was in Edinburgh, for more than a century, another

body of veterans, called the Town Guard, or City Guard, maintained by the

magistrates as a sort of military police, or gendarmerie, and finally

disbanded in 1817. This corps was generally recruited from old soldiers;

and during the period of my acquaintance with them (9½ years) they were

all aged, and some of them very old men; yet I never heard the word

_fogies_ applied to them. On the contrary, they were always distinguished

from the fogies by the elegant appellation of the "Toon Rottens," or Town

Rats, as well as by their facings, which were _dark blue_. Some, indeed,

of my younger friends, who remember the "Rats" very well, say they never

heard of the "Fogies" at all; only one of them, who lived when a boy at

the Castle Hill, perhaps about forty years ago, recollects of the word

"fogie" as being then applied to the soldiers of the ordinary veteran or

garrison battalions, with blue facings, that had superseded the fogies in

the keeping of the Castle; but of the veritable apple-green fogies of the

older establishment, he has no remembrance. As my own recollections of

Edinburgh go back to 1808, the fogies, I presume, must have been by that

time extinct, for I never saw any of them, though I frequently heard them

spoken of by those who had seen them.

I may mention also that while "fogie" was in use, and of well understood

application in Scotland, {155} the phrase "old folks," or, to write it

according to our vernacular pronunciation, "auld fo'k," was also, and

continues to be, in general and familiar use; but nobody in Scotland, I

dare say, ever imagined that "the auld fo'k" of his ordinary acquaintance

were just "old fogies," or had anything whatever to do with that peculiar

class of men, properly so called, the keepers of the royal castles. It

is most remarkable, also, that while the corrupt derivative, as MR.

KEIGHTLEY says "old fogie" is, has been almost quite forgotten among us,

having disappeared with the men that bore the name of fogies, the parent

form, as he would have "old folks" or "auld fo'k" to be, should remain

in full vigour and common use, as part of our living speech. In a word,

from all I can learn it would appear that the word "fogie," in its most

general acceptation, means by itself, without the "old," an old soldier;

and that "old fogie" is only a tautological form, arising from ignorance

of its meaning. Be its origin, however, what it may, I have no hesitation

now in expressing my conviction that MR. KEIGHTLEY'S etymology of the

word is utterly groundless.

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