These were not "tidings of great joy."

If the passengers on some great ship were told that the ship was to be

wrecked, that a few would be saved and that nearly all would go to

the bottom, would they talk about "tidings of great joy"? It is to be

presumed that Christ knew what his mission was, and what he came for.

He says: "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth; I came not to

send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against

his father, and the daughter against her mother." In my judgment, these

are not "tidings of great joy."

Now, as to the message of eternal grief:

"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye

cursed, into everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels."

"And these shall go away into everlasting punishment; but the righteous

[meaning the Methodists] into life eternal."

"He that believeth not shall be damned."

"He that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God

abideth on him."

"Fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul;

but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in

hell."

"And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever."

Knowing, as we do, that but few people have been believers, that during

the last eighteen hundred years not one in a hundred has died in the

faith, and that consequently nearly all the dead are in hell, it can

truthfully be said that Christianity came with a message of eternal

grief.

Now, as to the second "gigantic falsehood," to the effect that

Christianity filled the future with fear and flame, and made God the

keeper of an eternal penitentiary, destined to be the home of nearly all

the sons of men.

In the Old Testament there is nothing about punishment in some other

world, nothing about the flames and torments of hell. When Jehovah

killed one of his enemies he was satisfied. His revenge was glutted

when the victim was dead. The Old Testament gave the future to sleep and

oblivion. But in the New Testament we are told that the punishment

in another world is everlasting, and that "the smoke of their torment

ascendeth up forever and ever."

This awful doctrine, these frightful texts, filled the future with

fear and flame. Building on these passages, the orthodox churches have

constructed a penitentiary, in which nearly all the sons of men are

to be imprisoned and tormented forever, and of this prison God is the

keeper. The doors are opened only to receive.

The doctrine of eternal punishment is the infamy of infamies. As I have

often said, the man who believes in eternal torment, in the justice of

endless pain, is suffering from at least two diseases--petrifaction of

the heart and putrefaction of the brain.

The next question is whether Christianity has deprived God of the

pardoning power.

The Methodist Church and every orthodox church teaches that this life

is a period of probation; that there is no chance given for reformation

after death; that God gives no opportunity to repent in another world.

This is the doctrine of the Christian world. If this dogma be true, then

God will never release a soul from hell--the pardoning power will never

be exercised.

How happy God will be and how happy all the saved will be, knowing

that billions and billions of his children, of their fathers, mothers,

brothers, sisters, wives, and children are convicts in the eternal

dungeons, and that the words of pardon will never be spoken!

Yet this is in accordance with the promise contained in the New

Testament, of happiness here and eternal joy hereafter, to those who

would desert brethren or sisters, or father or mother, or wife or

children.

It seems to me clear that Christianity did not bring "tidings of great

joy," but that it came with a "message of eternal grief"--that it did

"fill the future with fear and flame," that it did make God "the keeper

of an eternal penitentiary," that the penitentiary "was destined to be

the home of nearly all the sons of men," and that "it deprived God of

the pardoning power."

Of course you can find passages full of peace, in the Bible, others of

war--some filled with mercy, and others cruel as the fangs of a wild

beast.

According to the Methodists, God has an eternal prison--an everlasting

Siberia. There is to be an eternity of grief, of agony and shame.

What do I think of what the Doctor says about the _Telegram_ for having

published my Christmas sermon?

The editor of the _Christian Advocate_ has no idea of what intellectual

liberty means. He ought to know that a man should not be insulted

because another man disagrees with him.

What right has Dr. Buckley to disagree with Cardinal Gibbons, and what

right has Cardinal Gibbons to disagree with Dr. Buckley? The same right

that I have to disagree with them both.

I do not warn people against reading Catholic or Methodist papers or

books. But I do tell them to investigate for themselves--to stand by

what they believe to be true, to deny the false, and, above all things,

to preserve their mental manhood. The good Doctor wants the _Telegram_

destroyed--wants all religious people to unite for the purpose of

punishing the _Telegram_--because it published something with which the

reverend Doctor does not agree, or rather that does not agree with the

Doctor.

It is too late. That day has faded in the West of the past. The doctor

of theology has lost his power. Theological thunder has lost its

lightning--it is nothing now but noise, pleasing those who make it and

amusing those who hear.

The _Telegram_ has nothing to fear. It is, in the highest sense, a

newspaper--wide-awake, alive, always on time, good to its friends, fair

with its enemies, and true to the public.

What have I to say to the Doctor's personal abuse?

Nothing. A man may call me a devil, or the devil, or he may say that I

am incapable of telling the truth, or that I tell lies, and yet all this

proves nothing. My arguments remain unanswered.

I cannot afford to call Dr. Buckley names, I have good mental manners.

The cause I represent (in part) is too great, too sacred, to be stained

by an ignorant or a malicious personality.

I know that men do as they must with the light they have, and so I

say--More light!

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