Mr. JENNER. That would have been October 7?
Mrs. PAINE. Thirteenth.
Senator COOPER. May I ask a question here?
Mr. McCLOY. Senator Cooper has a question.
Mr. JENNER. Yes.
Senator COOPER. On the occasion when you drove with him, did you find
it necessary to show him how to turn on the ignition?
Mrs. PAINE. No; I did not.
Senator COOPER. How to take steps to start the car and put it in motion?
Mrs. PAINE. No, indeed; he had started it before I came out or else he
wouldn't have been in the driver's seat because I didn't want him to
drive on the street. So he had the car ready to go; backed out with a
considerable bump.
Mr. JENNER. He backed out of the driveway?
Mrs. PAINE. I am recalling this now, I think so. I recall that he then
didn't attempt to go, I didn't let him, but at one point we practiced
parking on the street in front of my house.
Mr. JENNER. This was a subsequent occasion?
Mrs. PAINE. This was a subsequent occasion. But when the lesson was
done he gradually let me turn the car into the driveway. This is
harder and I was glad to do it and he was glad to be relieved of that
requirement.
Representative BOGGS. Mr. Chairman, I don't want to interrupt this line
of inquiry, but I have to go to a meeting at the Speaker's office and
I can't be back this afternoon, and I wonder if I might ask Mrs. Paine
several questions?
Mr. McCLOY. By all means.
Representative BOGGS. Not particularly in this line.
Where did you first meet Marina. I know you told us.
Mr. McCLOY. She testified to that yesterday.
Representative BOGGS. Tell me briefly.
Mrs. PAINE. At a party of people at the end of February 1963.
Representative BOGGS. How long was it thereafter that she moved into
your home for the first time?
Mrs. PAINE. She first came on the 24th of April.
Representative BOGGS. And she lived there for 2 weeks?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Representative BOGGS. And her husband lived here--her husband was with
her?
Mrs. PAINE. No. He had already gone on to New Orleans.
Representative BOGGS. When did she return to your home?
Mrs. PAINE. She came with me from New Orleans, leaving there the 23d of
September and arriving in Irving the 24th of September.
Representative BOGGS. And she lived with you in Irving from the 24th of
September until the 23d?
Mrs. PAINE. The morning of the 23d.
Representative BOGGS. Of November?
Mrs. PAINE. She left the morning of the 23d, she left expecting to come
back.
Representative BOGGS. During that period of time did Lee Oswald live
there?
Mrs. PAINE. No.
Representative BOGGS. He visited there on weekends?
Mrs. PAINE. He visited there on weekends.
Representative BOGGS. How well did you know Lee Oswald?
Mrs. PAINE. Insufficiently well.
Representative BOGGS. What do you mean by that?
Mrs. PAINE. Well, I regret, of course, very deeply that I didn't
perceive him as a violent man.
Representative BOGGS. You saw no evidence of violence in him at any
time?
Mrs. PAINE. No, I didn't. He argued with his wife but he never struck
her. I never heard from her of any violence from him.
Representative BOGGS. Did he ever express any hostility toward anyone
while he was talking with you?