Mrs. PAINE. Lee, Marina, I, and three children.
Mr. JENNER. Did all of you, including Lee, go to the French Quarter?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes; we did.
Mr. JENNER. Did you tour the Bourbon Street areas, Royal Street, and
the other areas?
Mrs. PAINE. No; we did not.
Mr. JENNER. Will you tell us without any length--you did not. This was
a tourist visit of the French Quarter, is that right?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. In the day?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. With the children?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Was anything said during the course of that tourist visit
about visiting Bourbon Street at night rather than in the daytime?
Mrs. PAINE. I don't recall that there was anything said.
Mr. JENNER. Was there any discussion about Lee Oswald visiting or
frequenting night clubs?
Mrs. PAINE. None.
Mr. JENNER. Either in Dallas, or in New Orleans or in Irving, Tex.?
Mrs. PAINE. None; at any time.
Mr. JENNER. Did any one of you tour Bourbon Street at night during that
spring visit?
Mrs. PAINE. No.
Mr. JENNER. Any discussion of the subject?
Mrs. PAINE. Not to my recollection.
Mr. JENNER. Was there a subsequent occasion when you did visit Bourbon
Street at night?
Mrs. PAINE. In September, when I visited again in New Orleans. Shall I
tell that?
Mr. JENNER. Yes; please, because there is a measure of contrast to that
I would like to bring out.
Mrs. PAINE. Marina and I and our three small children went down in the
early evening and walked along the street.
Mr. JENNER. Would you tell us how that came about, whether Lee Oswald
accompanied you?
Mrs. PAINE. He did not accompany us. He was asked if he wanted to go,
and he said he did not. Marina was interested in my seeing Bourbon
Street at night simply as a tourist attraction.
Mr. JENNER. And you two girls took your children?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Did she take June?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. You two girls walked down Bourbon Street?
Mrs. PAINE. And one of us very pregnant.
Mr. JENNER. And observed everything from the outside. You didn't go
inside any night clubs?
Mrs. PAINE. No. In fact, when I realized we weren't permitted, we went
on.
Mr. JENNER. You had small children?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Was there any discussion with Mr. Oswald at that time or
with Marina which led you to form a judgment as to whether he was a man
who might, or would, or had frequented night clubs?
Mrs. PAINE. I judged he was not such a person.
Mr. JENNER. In all your experiences with the Oswalds from February,
sometime in February 1963, even to the present date, had any mention
been made of Lee Oswald frequenting night clubs?
Mrs. PAINE. None.
Mr. JENNER. Or of Marina at any time?
Mrs. PAINE. No mention of her.
Mr. DULLES. Did you get the impression when you made this trip that
Marina had previously made the trip herself, that she seemed to know
the surroundings?
Mrs. PAINE. This occurs in the next paragraph of the letter she wrote
in May, so I knew she had been herself.
Mr. DULLES. She had been there before?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes. From the letter I judge with Lee accompanying her.
Mr. JENNER. Mrs. Paine, if you will pardon me. Mr. Reporter, will you
read the question?
(Question read.)
Mr. JENNER. Would you answer just that question?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. McCLOY. She did answer it.
Mr. JENNER. I didn't think she did.