Mrs. PAINE. Was to have been left with her.
The CHAIRMAN. Was for a subsequent date?
Mrs. PAINE. For a subsequent date following.
The CHAIRMAN. Yes.
Mrs. PAINE. That is it.
Mr. JENNER. That was clear to you on that occasion?
Mrs. PAINE. That was clear.
Mr. JENNER. She was scheduled to join him subsequently?
Mrs. PAINE. She was scheduled to join him subsequently if he did find
work. If he found no work there would have been no point to her making
the trip.
Mr. JENNER. Is this a discussion or is it your rationalization?
Mrs. PAINE. It was clearly said she would stay.
Mr. DULLES. I am puzzled. I am puzzled, Mr. Jenner, about this ticket
business.
Mr. JENNER. I am, too.
Mr. DULLES. A ticket was bought for her on the theory that she was
going with him first.
Mr. McCLOY. No.
Mr. DULLES. That is where I got off the track. He bought two tickets,
then why was the ticket redeemed?
Mr. McCLOY. Because it was made clear by Mrs. Paine that she was going
to take Marina down in her own car.
Mr. DULLES. But only going to stay with you during the period until he
got work, hence she wouldn't need a ticket. You were going to drive her
down?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. You would drive her down all the way to New Orleans?
Mrs. PAINE. In either case it was planned to delay going.
Mr. DULLES. She would go down if he got work, but she would not need a
ticket if she stayed with you. Therefore, the ticket was redeemed.
Mrs. PAINE. Yes. But I did not think of this or suggest it until after
he had already bought the ticket.
Representative FORD. May I ask this, Mrs. Paine? In the things that
were packed when you arrived, or things that were packed while you were
present----
Mrs. PAINE. Nothing was packed while I was present. It was already
packed.
Representative FORD. Everything was already packed by the time you got
there?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Representative FORD. Were any of the things for Marina or Lee packed?
Mrs. PAINE. They were all packed. I don't understand your question.
All of the things he wanted to take with him to the bus station were
already packed.
Representative FORD. Well, in that group of things which were so
packed, were there things for Marina and Lee?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Representative FORD. I mean Marina and June, excuse me?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Some of their things were among those things, yes, I
judge so, clothing. The things that remained were a crib, playpen, baby
stroller, some dishes, some clothing.
Representative FORD. The things you would not ordinarily take on a bus,
however.
Mrs. PAINE. Yes; it would be very difficult. That was another one of
the things that motivated me to suggest driving her down. I thought
sending these by train, with the risk of their getting strayed or--it
would be difficult, trying, for her to try to handle them, or convey
them with her by bus--that would have been worse.
Representative FORD. But there were some things that were packed in the
things that Lee was going to take with him that would include things----