Mr. LIEBELER. In Russia?
Mrs. FORD. I think at that time everyone rather--George Bouhe said he
was not going to help them any more, he was through, since Marina, he
tried to help her very hard, and she did not hold her word about not
going back to him. So he said since she went back, so now it is her
problem.
Well, he is sort of that type of man, he is trying to help hard and
if you are doing what he says otherwise he is not going to help, so
that was it. So it was rather, sort of Marina and her husband were
dropped at that time, nobody actually wanted to help, and I think what
they heard about Lydia Dymitruk was saying that he couldn't help those
people. I mean they were just sort of--he couldn't reach them. He was
lying in hospital and things, we sort of gave it up.
Mr. LIEBELER. Did Lydia make that remark at one of those parties or was
that at a previous time?
Mrs. FORD. Oh, that was a previous time. As soon as she left to go back
to her husband, George Bouhe even took the Russian dictionary back to
him. He told her to give it back and he was just through with him.
Mr. LIEBELER. So far as you know Mr. Bouhe had no more contact with the
Oswalds after that?
Mrs. FORD. No; I don't think so.
Mr. LIEBELER. Did you have any conversation with any of your friends
in Dallas or Fort Worth on the question of Oswald's ability to leave
Russia and come back to the United States and bring Marina with him?
Mrs. FORD. We didn't speculate on that until really later, until now,
after the assassination that subject came up, and people asking why
they left so soon. He was telling me it took them a year, so I don't
know.
Mr. LIEBELER. Was there any conversation prior to the assassination,
during this period in 1962, any speculation as to whether Oswald might
be an agent of any government?
Mrs. FORD. No. I frankly didn't think he was capable of it. That was my
feeling on it.
Mr. LIEBELER. Were there any conversations on that?
Mrs. FORD. No. There were not.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you remember that Mr. Bouhe suggested at one time that
Oswald was a mental case?
Mrs. FORD. Mr. Bouhe, he might have; yes, I think we all thought that.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you remember that Mr. Bouhe said that?
Mrs. FORD. I don't remember particularly that he would say that.
The CHAIRMAN. Did you say, "We all thought that"?
Mrs. FORD. Yes; we thought that, that he was rather mentally--you just
said the word before.
The CHAIRMAN. Unstable?
Mrs. FORD. Unstable.
Mr. LIEBELER. Unstable.
Why did you think that, Mrs. Ford?
Mrs. FORD. In my own opinion, I just didn't think that a man as young
as he was could come to the conclusions just by rather experiences or
living a long time in America and I mean studying the whole economic
structures of different governments, and things that he would come to
the conclusion that is the best thing for him. I think he was just
rather too young for that.