Representative FORD. It would be on the same line?
Mr. McWATTERS. Yes, sir.
Representative FORD. The first seat would be ahead--the first seat on
the right-hand side of the bus would be ahead of the seat where the
lady was sitting?
Mr. McWATTERS. No, you mean the lady, I am referring to who got off
first?
Representative FORD. Yes.
Mr. McWATTERS. No, the lady--I was sitting in the driver's seat, she
was sitting right behind me, in other words, facing out his way.
Representative FORD. But she obviously heard what the man said about
the President being shot?
Mr. McWATTERS. Yes, sir.
Representative FORD. There is no doubt in your mind she heard that?
Mr. McWATTERS. I wouldn't think so because when she got up and stated
she wanted to get off----
Representative FORD. Was she any further from the man who made this
statement about the President being shot than the man who was sitting
in the second cross seat?
Mr. McWATTERS. She was closer to the man actually than the man that got
off with her was.
Representative FORD. How many feet or how much difference?
Mr. McWATTERS. Well, the lady in other words, from the door here, it
is just two cross seats, and two seats where you sit sideways and then
the two seats in which he would be back here.
Representative FORD. Could you diagram that as best as you can?
Mr. BELIN. Congressman, we have a diagram. We have a picture of the
side of the bus.
Mr. McWATTERS. Right here.
Representative FORD. Sit down.
Mr. McWATTERS. You can see it from this point right here, in other
words. You see this cross seat, in other words, these first two right
here, the driver's seat, you see the first two seats there, in other
words.
Representative FORD. Could you sit down and mark it?
Mr. McWATTERS. This is the inside, let's see, this is the driver right
here. Here is your cross seat right here. Here, about back here, is
where the lady got off who was sitting on this seat.
Representative FORD. Will you mark that with an "L"?
Mr. McWATTERS. In other words, right here.
Representative FORD. Where was the man in the first cross seat sitting?
Mr. McWATTERS. Right here is the first. Right here is where the man
that was sitting, got off, in this seat right here, I believe it is.
Representative FORD. Will you mark that "M" where the man who was
sitting also got off who got the transfer?
Mr. BALL. Maybe we had better use a black pen that will show better on
that glazed surface.
Representative FORD. This is where the man was sitting who you issued
the transfer to at the same time the lady was issued the transfer?
Mr. McWATTERS. Yes, sir.
Representative FORD. And the teenager was sitting in what seat?
Mr. McWATTERS. Right here.
Representative FORD. Will you mark that "O"?
Mr. McWATTERS. Yes, sir.
Representative FORD. Where was the man standing who came to the bus and
said the President had been shot?
Mr. McWATTERS. Right here.
Representative FORD. On the step?
Mr. McWATTERS. On the step. I guess, I presume this would be the second
step there. To the best of my recollection he stepped up on the first
step.