Mr. WORRELL. Uh, huh. And about that----

Mr. SPECTER. Did you look up and see the rifle between the first and

the second shots?

Mr. WORRELL. Yes, sir. And saw the firing on the second and then before

he could get a shot I was--I took in everything but especially the car,

the President's car, and saw him slumping, and I looked up again and

turned around and started running and saw it fire a third time, and

then----

Mr. SPECTER. When did you see it fire a third time, when you looked up,

the time you just described?

Mr. WORRELL. When I was, I did it all in one motion, I looked up,

turned around and ran, pivoted.

Mr. SPECTER. What did you hear, if anything, after that?

Mr. WORRELL. Just a lot of commotion, everybody was screaming and

saying "duck."

Mr. SPECTER. After the third shot, did you hear a fourth shot?

Mr. WORRELL. Oh, yes. Just as I got to the corner of Exhibit 360, I

heard the fourth shot.

Mr. SPECTER. Well, did these four shots come close together or how

would you describe the timing in general on those?

Mr. WORRELL. Succession.

Mr. SPECTER. Were they very fast?

Mr. WORRELL. They were right in succession.

Mr. SPECTER. Now going back to the position of the rifle which you

testified that you saw, you say it was either on the fifth or sixth

floor?

Mr. WORRELL. Yes, sir.

Mr. SPECTER. Is there any way you can tell us which floor it was on, or

would the angle of your observation permit you to be sure it was the

fifth or sixth floors?

Mr. WORRELL. I am not going to say I am positive, but that one there.

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