Mr. GREER. I didn't observe that----

Mr. SPECTER. On the car?

Mr. GREER. Until after I got back to Washington, until the car came

back to Washington. I saw it at the White House garage. It was the

first time I had ever noticed that.

Mr. SPECTER. On what date did you observe that indentation on the car?

Mr. GREER. That was the day after, the 23, would be it. It would be the

day after the shooting. We got back from Dallas.

Mr. SPECTER. And what time of the day did you observe the car at the

White House garage on that date?

Mr. GREER. It was in the afternoon, I believe. I believe it was in the

afternoon, I believe.

Mr. SPECTER. Did anyone call that indentation to your attention at that

time?

Mr. GREER. Yes; I was asked if I knew about it.

Mr. SPECTER. Who was it who asked you?

Mr. GREER. I can't remember now who did say that, but I was shown that

indentation at the same time I was the break in the glass. I was shown

both and asked if I had known but I can't remember who might have asked

me.

Mr. SPECTER. Had you ever observed that indentation before the

assassination occurred?

Mr. GREER. No, sir. I had never noticed it before at any time. I had

never seen it before.

Mr. SPECTER. Had you ever had any occasion to examine closely that

metallic area to ascertain whether or not there was such an indentation

prior to the assassination?

Mr. GREER. Well, it seems to me I would have prior to that had it been

there because I do take care of the car sometimes, and it had never

been--I had never noticed it at any previous time.

Mr. SPECTER. I hand you Commission Exhibit 350 and ask you if you are

able to state what that depicts?

Mr. GREER. That depicts a break or a shatter in the windshield of it.

Mr. SPECTER. Does that picture accurately represent the status of the

windshield on the President's car at sometime?

Mr. GREER. Yes, sir; that windshield looks real familiar to me on the

way it----

Mr. SPECTER. At what time, based on your observation, did the

windshield of the President's car look like that picture?

Mr. GREER. I had never seen that until the following day after it came

back from Dallas.

Mr. SPECTER. But on November 23, did the President's car windshield

look like that?

Mr. GREER. Yes, sir; it looked like there was a break that had a

diamond, in the windshield whenever I was shown that at the garage, the

White House garage.

Mr. SPECTER. Was the size and scope of the crack the same as that which

is shown on that exhibit?

Mr. GREER. That I wouldn't remember whether it was quite that large

or not. I don't believe it was that big. It might not have been but I

wouldn't say for sure.

Mr. SPECTER. Did you observe any crack on the windshield after the time

of the shooting on November 22?

Mr. GREER. No, sir; I didn't see it at all. I didn't know anything

about it until I came back, until the car came back and I was shown

that.

Mr. SPECTER. Did you have any occasion on November 22, after the

shooting, to observe closely the windshield?

Mr. GREER. No, sir. The only time I was in the car was going to the

hospital and I never--I didn't see the car any more. It was just from

the shooting until we got to Parkland that I was with the car. I left

the car there and never did see it until it was back at the White House

garage.

Mr. SPECTER. Are you able to state with certainty there was no crack in

that windshield prior to the shooting on November 22?

Mr. GREER. Yes, sir; I am sure there was nothing wrong with that

windshield prior to that because I would have--it was almost in front

of me and I examined the car. I looked it all over when I got there. I

saw it was clean and everything, the windshield. I didn't see this ever

at any time previous.

Mr. SPECTER. Mr. Greer, I now call your attention to a windshield

which has been marked as Commission Exhibit No. 351, and I will ask

you to take a look at it and identify it for us, if you can, calling

your attention first of all to the windshield itself. Are you able to

state----

Mr. GREER. Yes, sir; this is the windshield that came out of the

Lincoln.

Mr. SPECTER. That you were operating on the day of the assassination?

Mr. GREER. Yes, sir.

Mr. SPECTER. Can you describe what cracks, if any, which you see now on

that windshield were present?

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