The CHAIRMAN. This thing can go on interminably with all this minutia
and things that don't bear on what we are here to find out, whatever
his business relations are with Mrs. Oswald, it seems to me is his
business and not ours.
Mr. REDLICH. Did Mrs. Oswald's attempt to terminate the relationship
with you relate in any way to her testimony before this Commission?
Mr. MARTIN. No. There was no reason given.
Mr. REDLICH. Did it relate in any way, in your opinion, to any
information which you may have given to anyone else with regard to
your knowledge of the facts concerning the assassination of President
Kennedy.
Mr. MARTIN. No.
Mr. REDLICH. Do you know Jack Ruby?
Mr. MARTIN. Yes.
Mr. REDLICH. Would you tell us about your association with him?
Mr. MARTIN. Well, it is a very minor association. I had been working in
the Statler Hotel in Dallas as assistant manager for maybe six months
before I met him, and met him through some of the other people in the
hotel.
Mr. DULLES. What year was this?
Mr. MARTIN. About 1955.
Mr. DULLES. I just want to get the general area.
Mr. MARTIN. 1955 or 1956. And as a club manager, I was club manager
in Dallas also, and didn't associate with him at all, even on a
bilateral communication through the clubs. But it was just a nodding
acquaintance, you might say. I knew him by his first name. He knew me
by my first name and we spoke when we saw each other and I think I have
been in his place twice.
Mr. REDLICH. Do you recall the approximate dates of those visits?
Mr. MARTIN. Let's see, once in 1962. I had some gentlemen from New
Orleans with me. They were visiting Dallas on business at the Inn of
the Six Flags, and they wanted to see the Carousel.
Mr. DULLES. That is what you mean by his place?
Mr. MARTIN. Yes. So I called Jack Ruby and asked if it would be all
right if I brought them down. We stayed approximately an hour and a
half.
The other time was during the daytime, let's see, as it was then, I
had--I was walking in that area and just stopped in to say hello. The
club was closed at that time, not closed for business but it was before
opening hours.
Mr. REDLICH. Those are the only times you have been in Jack Ruby's
business establishment?
Mr. MARTIN. Yes.
Mr. REDLICH. Do you consider yourself a friend of his?
Mr. MARTIN. No. An acquaintance.
Mr. REDLICH. Have you gone out socially?
Mr. MARTIN. No. He came out to the Inn one time with some little
gimmick. It is called a Detwist Board. It is quite a piece of plywood
about like this with a round plate on the bottom of it, seated in ball
bearings and you are supposed to stand on this thing to twist, and came
out to ask me to see who to ask at the park to merchandise it, the Six
Flags over Texas Amusement Park, and I told him. Now, whether he went
over there or not, I don't know.
Mr. REDLICH. I understand that you have had a conversation with an aid
of General Walker concerning the General Walker incident.
Would you tell the Commission about that?