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ADDRESSES AND PROCEEDINGS

OF THE

SECOND

National Conservation Congress

HELD AT

SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA

SEPTEMBER 5-8

1910

[Illustration: BERNARD N. BAKER

Baltimore, Md.

President, Second National Conservation Congress]

PROCEEDINGS

OF THE

Second

National Conservation Congress

AT

Saint Paul

SEPTEMBER 5-8, 1910

"Let us conserve the foundations of our prosperity"

(Declaration of the Governors, 1908)

WASHINGTON

NATIONAL CONSERVATION CONGRESS

1911

W. F. ROBERTS COMPANY

PRINTERS

WASHINGTON, D. C.

[Illustration: HON. J. B. WHITE

Kansas City, Mo.

Chairman, Executive Committee, Second National Conservation

Congress and Third National Conservation Congress]

OFFICERS AND COMMITTEES FOR 1909-10

_President_

B. N. BAKER, Baltimore

_Executive Secretary_

THOMAS R. SHIPP, Washington, D. C.

_Secretary_

L. FRANK BROWN, Seattle

_Vice-Presidents_

JOHN BARRETT, Washington, D. C.

JAMES S. WHIPPLE, Albany

E. J. WICKSON, Berkeley

ALFRED C. ACKERMAN, Athens, Ga.

HENRY A. BARKER, Providence

_Executive Committee_

J. B. WHITE, Kansas City, Mo., _Chairman_

B. N. BAKER, Baltimore

J. N. TEAL, Portland, Ore.

A. B. FARQUHAR, York, Pa.

L. H. BAILEY, Ithaca

THOMAS BURKE, Seattle

HENRY E. HARDTNER, Urania, La.

W. A. FLEMING JONES, Las Cruces

Mrs PHILIP N. MOORE, Saint Louis

Mrs J. ELLEN FOSTER, Washington, D. C.

_Local Board of Managers for the Saint Paul Congress_

Hon. A. O. EBERHART, _Chairman_

FRANK B. KELLOGG, _Vice-Chairman_

J. S. BELL, Minneapolis

H. A. TUTTLE, Minneapolis

GEORGE M. GILLETTE, Minneapolis

B. F. NELSON, Minneapolis

L. S. DONALDSON, Minneapolis

JOSEPH H. BEEK, Saint Paul

GEORGE H. PRINCE, Saint Paul

REUBEN WARNER, Saint Paul

PAUL W. DOTY, Saint Paul

THEODORE W. GRIGGS, Saint Paul

W. C. HANDY, _Secretary_

OFFICERS AND COMMITTEES FOR 1910-11

_President_

HENRY WALLACE, Des Moines

_Executive Secretary_

THOMAS R. SHIPP, Washington, D. C.

_Treasurer_

D. AUSTIN LATCHAW, Kansas City, Mo.

_Recording Secretary_

JAMES C. GIPE, Clarks, La.

_Executive Committee_

J. B. WHITE, Kansas City, Mo., _Chairman_

B. N. BAKER, Baltimore

L. H. BAILEY, Ithaca

JAMES R. GARFIELD, Cleveland

FRANK C. GOUDY, Denver

W. A. FLEMING JONES, Las Cruces

Mrs PHILIP N. MOORE, Saint Louis

WALTER H. PAGE, New York

GEORGE C. PARDEE, Oakland, Cal.

GIFFORD PINCHOT, Washington, D. C.

J. N. TEAL, Portland, Ore.

E. L. WORSHAM, Atlanta

_Vice-Presidents_

ALABAMA, Hon. Albert P. Bush, Mobile; ALASKA, Hon. James Wickersham,

Fairbanks; ARIZONA, B. A. Fowler, Phenix; ARKANSAS, A. H. Purdue,

Fayetteville; CALIFORNIA, E. H. Cox, San Francisco; COLORADO, Murdo

Mackenzie, Trinidad; COLUMBIA (District of), W J McGee, Washington;

CONNECTICUT, Rollin S. Woodruff, Hartford; DELAWARE, Hon. George Gray,

Wilmington; FLORIDA, Cromwell Gibbons, Jacksonville; GEORGIA, Hon. Jno.

C. Hart, Union Point; HAWAII, Mrs Margaret R. Knudsen, Kanai; IDAHO,

James A. MacLean, University of Idaho; ILLINOIS, Julius Rosenwald,

Chicago; INDIANA, F. J. Breeze, Lafayette; IOWA, Carl Leopold,

Burlington; KANSAS, W. R. Stubbs, Topeka; KENTUCKY, James K. Patterson,

Lexington; LOUISIANA, Newton C. Blanchard, Shreveport; MAINE, Bert M.

Fernald, Augusta; MARYLAND, William Bullock Clark, Baltimore;

MASSACHUSETTS, Frank W. Rane, Boston; MICHIGAN, J. L. Snyder, Lansing;

MINNESOTA, Ambrose Tighe, Saint Paul; MISSISSIPPI, A. W. Shands, Sardis;

MISSOURI, Hermann Von Schrenk, Saint Louis; MONTANA, E. L. Norris,

Helena; NEBRASKA, Dr F. A. Long, Madison; NEVADA, Senator Francis G.

Newlands, Reno; NEW HAMPSHIRE, George B. Leighton, Monadnock; NEW

JERSEY, Charles Lathrop Pack, Lakewood; NEW MEXICO, W. A. Fleming Jones,

Las Cruces; NEW YORK, R. A. Pearson, Albany; NORTH CAROLINA, T. Gilbert

Pearson, Greensboro; NORTH DAKOTA, U. G. Larimore, Larimore; OHIO, James

R. Garfield, Cleveland; OKLAHOMA, Benj. Martin, Jr., Muskogee; OREGON,

J. N. Teal, Portland; PENNSYLVANIA, William S. Harvey, Philadelphia;

PHILIPPINE ISLANDS, Maj. George P. Ahern, Manila; PORTO RICO, Hon.

Walter K. Landis, San Juan; RHODE ISLAND, Henry A. Barker, Providence;

SOUTH CAROLINA, E. J. Watson, Columbia; SOUTH DAKOTA, Ellwood C.

Perisho, Vermillion; TENNESSEE, Herman Suter, Nashville; TEXAS, W.

Goodrich Jones, Temple; UTAH, Harden Bennion, Salt Lake City; VERMONT,

Fletcher D. Proctor, Proctor; VIRGINIA, A. R. Turnbull, Norfolk;

WASHINGTON, M. E. Hay, Olympia; WEST VIRGINIA, A. B. Fleming, Fairmont;

WISCONSIN, Charles R. Van Hise, Madison; WYOMING, Bryant B. Brooks,

Cheyenne; NATIONAL CONSERVATION ASSOCIATION, Gifford Pinchot,

Washington.

_Standing Committees_

FORESTS--H. S. Graves, U. S. Forester, Washington, D. C., _Chairman_; E.

M. Griffith, Madison, Wis.; E. T. Allen, Portland, Ore.; J. Lewis

Thompson, Houston.

LANDS--Governor W. R. Stubbs, Topeka, _Chairman_; Dwight B. Heard,

Phenix; J. L. Snyder, Lansing; Murdo Mackenzie, Trinidad; Charles S.

Barrett, Union City, Ga.

WATERS--W J McGee, Washington, D. C., _Chairman_; E. A. Smith, Spokane;

Henry A. Barker, Providence; J. N. Teal, Portland, Ore.; Herbert Knox

Smith, Washington, D. C.

MINERALS--Charles R. Van Hise, Madison, _Chairman_; Joseph A. Holmes,

Washington, D. C.; D. W. Brunton, Denver; John Mitchell, New York; I. C.

White, Morgantown, W. Va.

VITAL RESOURCES--Dr William H. Welch, Baltimore, _Chairman_; Professor

Irving Fisher, New Haven; Dr H. W. Wiley, Washington, D. C.; Dr J. H.

Kellogg, Battle Creek, Mich.; Walter H. Page, New York.

[Illustration: HENRY WALLACE

Des Moines, Iowa

President, Third National Conservation Congress]

CONTENTS

PAGE

CONSTITUTION ix

OPENING SESSION 1

Invocation by ARCHBISHOP IRELAND 1

Greeting from CARDINAL GIBBONS 3

Address by GOVERNOR EBERHART 3

Welcome by MAYOR KELLER 13

Address by PRESIDENT TAFT 14

SECOND SESSION 34

Induction of GOVERNOR STUBBS as Chairman 34

Address by SENATOR NELSON 35

Address by GOVERNOR NOEL 48

Address by GOVERNOR NORRIS 52

Address by GOVERNOR DENEEN 59

Address by GOVERNOR HAY 64

Announcement by PROFESSOR CONDRA 71

Address by GOVERNOR BROOKS 72

Remarks by GOVERNOR STUBBS 75

Address by GOVERNOR VESSEY 77

THIRD SESSION 79

Appointment of Credentials Committee 79

Action on Constitution of

the National Conservation Congress 79

Remarks by DIRECTOR-GENERAL BARRETT 80

Remarks by GOVERNOR STUBBS 81

Invocation by REVEREND DOCTOR MONTGOMERY 81

Address by EX-PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT 82

FOURTH SESSION 93

Address by MISS BOARDMAN 94

Address by COMMISSIONER HERBERT KNOX SMITH 101

Modification of Credentials Committee 106

Address by HONORABLE JAMES R. GARFIELD 106

Address by EX-GOVERNOR PARDEE 115

Remarks by DELEGATE HORR, of Washington 120

Address by EX-GOVERNOR BLANCHARD 121

Address by WILLIAM E. SMYTHE 127

Address by WALTER L. FISHER 129

Address by COLONEL JAMES H. DAVIDSON 132

FIFTH SESSION 134

Invocation by BISHOP EDSALL 134

Address by PRESIDENT FINLEY 135

Report of Credentials Committee 145

Address by SENATOR BEVERIDGE 146

Response by GIFFORD PINCHOT 152

Address by PRESIDENT MCVEY 152

Discussion by CHAIRMAN WHITE 158

Address by MRS WELCH,

of the General Federation of Women's Clubs 160

Address by MRS HOYLE TOMKIES,

of the Women's National Rivers and Harbors Congress 163

Address by MRS SNEATH,

of the General Federation of Women's Clubs 166

Report by MRS HOWARD,

of the Daughters of the American Revolution 167

SIXTH SESSION 168

Induction of SENATOR CLAPP as Chairman 168

Address by PRESIDENT CRAIGHEAD 168

Postponement of Call of States 171

Address by D. AUSTIN LATCHAW 171

Address by JAMES J. HILL 177

Discussion by HENRY WALLACE 188

Address by SECRETARY WILSON 194

Discussion by REPRESENTATIVE STEVENS 201

Address by PROFESSOR BAILEY 203

SEVENTH SESSION 213

Address by PROFESSOR GRAVES 214

Address by ALFRED L. BAKER 222

Address by FRANK H. SHORT 226

Address by DIRECTOR-GENERAL BARRETT 237

Address by HONORABLE ESMOND OVEY 243

Action on time for election and report of

Resolutions Committee 246

EIGHTH SESSION 246

Appointment of Nominating Committee 246

Induction of GOVERNOR EBERHART as Chairman 246

Address by DEAN WESBROOK 247

Address by WALLACE D. SIMMONS 257

Address by COMMISSIONER ELMER E. BROWN 264

Address by MRS SCOTT, President of

the Daughters of the American Revolution 270

Action in memory of MRS J. ELLEN FOSTER 276

Presentation by MRS HOWARD to GIFFORD PINCHOT 276

Response by MR PINCHOT 277

Address by FRANCIS J. HENEY 278

Address by GIFFORD PINCHOT 292

Expression by GOVERNOR EBERHART 298

Statement by PROFESSOR CONDRA 298

CLOSING SESSION 299

Commencement of Call of States 299

Response by DELEGATE HARVEY, of Pennsylvania 299

Interlude by E. W. ROSS, of Washington 302

Report of Nominating Committee 303

Nomination by CHAIRMAN WHITE 303

Second by GIFFORD PINCHOT 304

Election of and response by HENRY WALLACE as President 305

Election of other Officers 306

Resolution of thanks to retiring PRESIDENT BAKER 308

Response by MR BAKER 308

Report of Resolutions Committee 308

Adoption of Resolutions 312

Interlude by E. W. ROSS, of Washington 312

Remarks by DELEGATE HORR, of Washington 313

Ratification of Vice-Presidents 313

Resolution in memory of PROFESSOR GREEN 313

Resumption of Call of States 314

Response by DELEGATE PURDUE, of Arkansas 314

Response by DELEGATE BANNISTER, of Indiana 314

Response by DELEGATE MILLER, of Iowa 314

Response by DELEGATE YOUNG, of Kansas 314

Response by DELEGATE BAKER, of Maryland 314

Response by DELEGATE THORP, of Minnesota 315

Response by STATE GEOLOGIST LOWE, of Mississippi 315

Response by GENERAL NOBLE, of Missouri 315

Response by CHAIRMAN WHITE 316

Response by PROFESSOR CONDRA, of Nebraska 317

Response by a Delegate from New York 318

Response by DELEGATE NESTOS, of North Dakota 318

Response by DELEGATE KRUEGER, of South Dakota 319

Remarks by DELEGATE JOHNS, of Washington 320

Privileged statement by LAND COMMISSIONER ROSS,

of Washington 322

Response by DELEGATE FOWLER, of Arizona 324

Response by DELEGATE HUNT, of District of Columbia 324

Response by DELEGATE BARKER, of Rhode Island 324

Response by PROFESSOR WHITE, of West Virginia 325

Response by DELEGATE WORSHAM, of Georgia 325

Motion for adjournment by DELEGATE MARTIN, of Oklahoma 326

SUPPLEMENTARY PROCEEDINGS 327

Laws that should be Passed,

by SENATOR FRANCIS G. NEWLANDS 327

Conservation of the Nation's Resources,

by CHAIRMAN J. B. WHITE 328

Practical Aspects of Conservation, by A. B. FARQUHAR 331

Report from Arkansas, by SID B. REDDING 333

Report from Colorado, by FRANK C. GOUDY 334

Report from Florida, by CROMWELL GIBBONS 335

Report from Idaho, by JEROME J. DAY 336

Report from Indiana, by A. E. METZGER 336

Report from Iowa, by A. C. MILLER 337

Report from Louisiana, by HENRY E. HARDTNER 339

Report from Maine, by CYRUS C. BABB 341

Report from Massachusetts, by FRANK WILLIAM RANE and

HENRY H. SPRAGUE 343

Report from Missouri, by HERMANN VON SCHRENK 344

Report from Montana, by RUDOLPH VON TOBEL 345

Report from New Mexico, by COLONEL W. A. FLEMING JONES 347

Report from New York, by J. S. WHIPPLE 347

Special report from New York, by HENRY H. PERSONS 352

Report from North Dakota, by PROFESSOR WALDRON 362

Report from Ohio, by PROFESSOR LAZENBY 364

Report from Oklahoma, by BENJ. MARTIN, JR. 365

Report from Oregon, by E. T. ALLEN 367

Report from Rhode Island, by HENRY A. BARKER 368

Report from South Carolina, by E. J. WATSON 369

Report from South Dakota, by DOANE ROBINSON 369

Report from Texas, by WILL L. SARGENT 370

Report from Utah, by O. J. SALISBURY 372

Supplementary report from Utah, by E. T. MERRITT 372

Report from Vermont, by GEORGE AITKIN 373

Report from Washington, by E. G. GRIGGS 375

Report from West Virginia, by HU MAXWELL 376

Report from Wisconsin, by E. M. GRIFFITH 377

Report of the American Academy of

Political and Social Science 379

Report of the American Automobile Association 380

Report of the American Civic Association 383

Report of the American Forestry Association 384

Report of the American Humane Association 385

Report of the American Institute of Architects 386

Report of the American Paper and Pulp Association 388

Report of the American Medical Association 389

Report of the American Railway Engineering and

Maintenance of Way Association 392

Report of the American Railway Master Mechanics'

Association 393

Report of the American Scenic and Historic

Preservation Society 394

Report of the Association for the Protection of

the Adirondacks 397

Report of the Carriage Builders' National Association 410

Report of the Delaware State Federation of

Women's Clubs 411

Report of the Farmers' Union of America 411

Report of the General Federation of Women's Clubs 412

Report of the Lakes-to-Gulf Deep Waterway Association 413

Report of the League of American Sportsmen 415

Report of the National Board of Fire Underwriters 416

Report of the National Board of Trade 419

Report of the National Business League of America 420

Report of the Missouri Valley River Improvement

Association 420

Report of the Upper Mississippi River Improvement

Association 421

Report of the Washington State Federation of Labor 422

Report of the Western Forestry and Conservation

Association 423

Report of the United Mine Workers 424

Timber Conservation, by GEORGE H. EMERSON 424

Forests and Stream-Flow, by WILLIAM S. HARVEY 428

The Conservation of Minerals and Subterranean Waters,

by GEORGE F. KUNZ, Ph.D. 429

The Question of Land Titles, by FRANKLIN MCCRAY 430

INDEX 431

[Illustration:

1. GIFFORD PINCHOT, Vice-President (1910).

2. JAMES R. GARFIELD, Vice-President (1910).

3. HENRY A. BARKER, Vice-President (1909-10).

4. A. B. FARQUHAR, Executive Committee (1909).

5. W. A. FLEMING JONES, Vice-president (1910).

6. E. L. WORSHAM, Executive Committee (1910).

7. GEORGE C. PARDEE, Executive Committee (1910).

8. J. N. TEAL, Executive Committee (1909-10).

9. WALTER H. PAGE, Executive Committee (1910).

10. L. H. BAILEY, Executive Committee (1909-10).]

_CONSTITUTION_

ARTICLE 1--NAME

This organization shall be known as the National Conservation Congress.

ARTICLE 2--OBJECT

The object of the National Conservation Congress shall be: (1) to

provide a forum for discussion of the resources of the United States as

the foundation for the prosperity of the people, (2) to furnish definite

information concerning the resources and their utilization, and (3) to

afford an agency through which the people of the country may frame

policies and principles affecting the wise and practical development,

conservation, and utilization of the resources, to be put into effect by

their representatives in State and Federal Governments.

ARTICLE 3--MEETINGS

_Section 1._ Regular annual meetings shall be held at such time and

place as may be determined by the Executive Committee.

_Section 2._ Special meetings of the Congress, or its officers,

committees, or boards, may be held subject to the call of the President

of the Congress or the Chairman of the Executive Committee.

ARTICLE 4--OFFICERS

_Section 1._ The officers of the Congress shall consist of a President,

to be elected by the Congress; a Vice-President from each State, to be

chosen by the respective State delegations, and from the National

Conservation Association; an Executive Secretary; a Recording Secretary;

and a Treasurer.

_Section 2._ The duties of these officers may at any time be prescribed

by formal action of the Congress or Executive Committee. In the absence

of such action their duties shall be those implied by their designations

and established by custom. In addition, it shall be the duty of the

Vice-Presidents to receive, from the State Conservation Commissions and

other organizations concerned in Conservation, suggestions and

recommendations, and report them to the Executive Committee of the

Congress.

_Section 3._ The officers shall serve for one year, or until their

successors are elected and qualify.

ARTICLE 5--COMMITTEES AND BOARDS

_Section 1._ An Executive Committee of seven, in addition to which the

President of the National Conservation Association and all ex-Presidents

of the Congress shall be members ex-officio, shall be appointed by the

President during each regular annual session to act for the ensuing

year; its membership shall be drawn from different States, and not more

than one of the appointed members shall be from any one State. The

Executive Committee shall act for the Congress and shall be empowered to

initiate action and meet emergencies. It shall report to each regular

annual session.

_Section 2._ A Board of Managers shall be created in each city in which

the next ensuing session of the Congress is to be held, preferably by

leading organizations of citizens. The Board of Managers shall have

power to raise and expend funds, to incur obligations on its own

responsibility, and to appoint subordinate boards and committees, all

with the approval of the Executive Committee of the Congress. It shall

report to the Executive Committee at least two days before the opening

of the ensuing session, and at such other times as the Congress or the

Executive Committee may direct.

_Section 3._ A Committee on Credentials shall be appointed, consisting

of five (5) members, by the President of the Congress not later than on

the second day of each session of the Congress. It shall determine all

questions raised by delegates as to representation, and shall report to

the Congress from time to time as required by the President of the

Congress.

_Section 4._ A Committee on Resolutions shall be created for each annual

meeting of the Congress. A Chairman shall be appointed by the President.

One member of the Committee shall be selected by each State represented

in the Congress. The Committee shall report to the Congress not later

than the morning of the last day of each annual meeting.

_Section 5._ Permanent Committees, consisting of five (5) members each,

shall be appointed by the President of the Congress on each of the

following five divisions of Conservation: Forests, Waters, Lands,

Minerals, and Vital Resources. These committees shall, during the

intervals between the annual meetings of the Congress, inquire into

these respective subjects and prepare reports to be submitted on the

request of the Executive Committee, and render such other assistance to

the Congress as the Executive Committee may direct.

_Section 6._ By direction of the Congress, standing and special

committees may be appointed by the President.

_Section 7._ The President shall be a member, ex-officio, of every

committee of the Congress.

ARTICLE 6--ARRANGEMENTS FOR SESSIONS

_Section 1._ The program for the session of each annual meeting of the

Congress, including a list of speakers, shall be arranged by the

Executive Committee. The entire program, including allotments of time to

speakers and hours for daily sessions and all other arrangements

concerning the program, shall be made by the Executive Committee.

_Section 2._ Unless otherwise ordered, the rules adopted for the

guidance of the preceding Congress shall continue in force.

ARTICLE 7--MEMBERSHIP

_Section 1._ The personnel of the National Conservation Congress shall

be as follows:

_Officers and Delegates_

Officers of the National Conservation Congress.

Fifteen Delegates appointed by the Governor of each State and Territory.

Five Delegates appointed by the Mayor of each city with a population of

25,000, or more.

Two Delegates appointed by the Mayor of each city with a population of

less than 25,000.

Two Delegates appointed by each Board of County Commissioners.

Five Delegates appointed by each National Organization concerned in the

work of Conservation.

Five Delegates appointed by each State or Interstate Organization

concerned in the work of Conservation.

Three Delegates appointed by each Chamber of Commerce, Board of Trade,

Commercial Club, or other local organization concerned in the work of

Conservation.

Two Delegates appointed by each State or other University or College,

and by each Agricultural College or Experiment Station.

HONORARY MEMBERS

The President of the United States.

The Vice-President of the United States.

The Speaker of the House of Representatives.

The Cabinet.

The United States Senate and House of Representatives.

The Supreme Court of the United States.

The Representatives of Foreign Governments.

The Governors of the States and Territories.

The Lieutenant-Governors of the States and Territories.

The Speakers of State Houses of Representatives.

The State Officers.

The Mayors of Cities.

The County Commissioners.

The Presidents of State and other Universities and Colleges.

The Officers and Members of the National Conservation Association.

The Officers and Members of the National Conservation Commission.

The Officers and Members of the State Conservation Commissions and

Associations.

ARTICLE 8--DELEGATIONS AND STATE OFFICERS

_Section 1._ The several Delegates from each State in attendance at any

Congress shall assemble at the earliest practicable time and organize by

choosing a Chairman and a Secretary. These Delegates, when approved by

the Committee on Credentials, shall constitute the Delegation from that

State.

ARTICLE 9--VOTING

_Section 1._ Each member of the Congress shall be entitled to one vote

on all actions taken viva voce.

_Section 2._ A division or call of States may be demanded on any action

by a State delegation. On division, each Delegate shall be entitled to

one vote; provided (1) that no State shall have more than twenty votes;

and provided (2) that when a State is represented by less than ten

Delegates, said Delegates may cast ten votes for such State.

_Section 3._ The term "State" as used herein is to be construed to mean

either State, Territory, or Insular Possession.

ARTICLE 10--AMENDMENTS

This Constitution may be amended by a two-thirds vote of the Congress

during any regular session, provided notice of the proposed amendment

has been given from the Chair not less than one day or more than two

days preceding; or by unanimous vote without such notice.

[Illustration:

1. D. AUSTIN LATCHAW, Treasurer (1910).

2. THOMAS R. SHIPP, Executive Secretary (1909-10).

3. JAMES C. GIPE, Recording Secretary (1910).

4. JOHN BARRETT, Vice-President (1909).

5. Mrs PHILIP N. MOORE, Executive Committee (1909-10).

6. FRANK C. GOUDY, Executive Committee (1910).

7. THOMAS BURKE, Executive Committee (1909).

8. E. J. WICKSON, Vice-President (1909).

9. HENRY D. HARDTNER, Vice-President (1909).

10. JAMES S. WHIPPLE, Vice-President (1909).

11. W J MCGEE, Vice-President (Editor of Proceedings).]

SECOND NATIONAL CONSERVATION CONGRESS

_OPENING SESSION_

The Congress convened in the Auditorium, Saint Paul, Minnesota, on the

morning of September 5, 1910, President Baker in the chair, and was

called to order on arrival of the President of the United States.

President BAKER--Mr President, your Grace, Ladies and Gentlemen: The

honor I have today in opening this great Congress is one that will

always be highly treasured, for I feel that what we are trying to do is

to make our country great and strong by men who see the Nation's wrongs

and are giving their time to this great object. We are meeting today for

the purpose of using our very best efforts to assist in protecting the

interests of this great country in a way that will best protect every

man and woman and child in his or her rights, with justice to all. That

our great National resources are in danger of being wasted and not fully

preserved for the future, I am satisfied is the thought of all the great

minds assembled here today to take part in this Congress.

There is a Great High Power that rules and governs for the best in the

world, and I now call upon His Grace, Archbishop Ireland, to open our

Congress with an invocation to that Great Power for help, guidance, and

direction.

INVOCATION

_Almighty and eternal God. We bow before Thee in deep humility. Accept

from us, we beseech Thee, from submissive minds and sincere hearts,

adoration, praise, gratitude, love, and the promise of abiding

recognition of Thy sovereignty and of loyal obedience to Thy laws._

_O God, all things are Thine; all things were made by Thee; no thing

that was made was made without Thee; "the heavens show forth Thy glory

and the firmament declareth Thy power, day to day uttereth speech, night

to night showeth knowledge," ever proclaiming that Thou are the Master,

that things created are the scintillations of Thy power and wisdom. We

are Thine, O God, Thee our Father and our Master; earth and skies are

ours through gift of Thy munificence. "Till the earth," was it said to

us, "and subdue it and dominate over the fishes of the sea and the fowls

of the air and all living creatures that move upon the earth." Earth is

ours, not, O Lord, that we use it at our will and caprice, but that

under Thy guidance we bid it turn to our best and truest welfare, to the

best and truest welfare of our fellow-men, Thy children all; over all of

whom spread Thy love and care._

_Grant to us, O Lord, this morning wisdom in our counselings and

deliberations, that the intents of Thy providence be our intents, and,

Thy will the inspiration of our counselings and our actions._

_We thank thee, O God, for the gift to us of America. As to few other

lands, Thou hast been prodigal to America of gifts rich and rare. In

America skies are serene and health-giving above us; beneath us fields

are verdant and fertile; nowhere else are forests more fruitful, hills

and mountains richer in imbedded treasure; nowhere else are lakes and

rivers endowed with higher grandeur or more ready to proffer to man

useful and ennobling service. Of America, through Thy munificence, O

God, we are the caretakers. May we be wise and prudent in our duty. We

pray that under Thy abiding watchfulness, through our intelligent

industry, America grows ever in fairness and in wealth, and be the first

and most beauteous of the stopping-places allowed to men in their

pilgrimage toward their abiding home in heaven._

_Bless, O Lord, America, and bless its people, that they be ever

faithful to Thy laws; bless its citizenship, bless its Government, that

the spirit of its freedom-giving institutions never die, never lessen in

sweetness and in power; that here liberty be ever encircled in order,

and order ever wreathed in liberty; that righteousness dominate and

permeate prosperity; that whatever the laws we form may be

scintillations of Thy own eternal laws--compliance with which is life

and felicity, forgetfulness of which is misery and death to men and to

nations._

_And we pray Thee, O God, send down Thy blessing upon the President of

the Republic, upon whose shoulders descends the chief responsibility of

upholding the salvation and the dignity of America. We pray that Thou

bestow upon him Thy precious blessing. The burthen is heavy, often the

horizon is dark, often the polar star is hidden from which guidance

might come; but in Thee, O God, he confideth,--send upon him the wisdom

and the strength of Thy Holy Spirit, the wisdom that he may know, the

power that he may do, ever Thy will. In Thee, O Lord, in Thy omnipotent

hand--prompt to give aid in single-mindedness of purpose and in

rectitude of intention--he puts his trust. Be Thou his teacher, be Thou

his guide._

_Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name. Thy kingdom come,

Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily

bread, and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass

against us, and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from all

evil. Amen._

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President BAKER--Mr President, Ladies and Gentlemen: His Eminence,

Cardinal GIBBONS, sends you greeting:

Allow me to say how earnestly I wish the Congress every success in the

much-needed work of National Conservation.

It is said that the French and Germans could subsist on what we waste;

and I fear that to a stranger visiting our country it must seem that in

a hundred years we have wasted more of our natural resources than the

nations of Europe have done in all the centuries of their existence. But

if we have been reckless in the past, wasting like vandals our rich

inheritance, it is also most consoling and full of promise for the

future that with the strong aid of our President, of Colonel Roosevelt,

and of leading citizens in various parts of the country, we may look for

a wiser use of our resources in the near future. And I am the more

hopeful of a successful Congress from the fact that there is no

political issue involved in the great subject before it which might

threaten to divide our counsels and breed discontent, but that the sole

motive that actuates the Congress is to conserve and increase our

natural resources and thereby contribute to the material prosperity of

our beloved country.

It is also decidedly my opinion that we should regard our natural

resources as the patrimony of the Nation, a sacred trust committed to

our keeping to be administered for the good of the whole people, and to

be transmitted by us, as far as possible unimpaired, to our posterity.

By husbanding and using economically the gifts of Nature, we shall have

an abundant supply for our own times, and also make suitable provisions

for the future. Mother Earth is not only a fruitful mother; she is also

a grateful mother, and repays her children for every kindness and

tenderness we exercise toward her. And there are also instances on

record to show that she is relentless when she chastises.

Did my many duties allow, I should gladly take a more active part in the

greatly needed Conservation labors. However, I trust you will feel

assured of my entire sympathy and of the hope I confidently entertain of

the very great benefits coming to us all as the fruitful result of these

devoted laborers. JAMES CARD. GIBBONS.

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President BAKER--Ladies and Gentlemen: The opening of the Congress today

in Saint Paul is due largely to the kind assistance and friendly welcome

of the Governor of Minnesota, His Excellency A. O. Eberhart, who will

now extend you a welcome. (Great applause and cheers)

Governor EBERHART--Mr President, Members of the Congress, Ladies and

Gentlemen: When I was invited to appear before this Congress and bid you

welcome, it was suggested that I also outline what the people of

Minnesota felt when they sought to have this splendid gathering at Saint

Paul.

I am sure that no State or city could receive greater honor than to have

the President of the United States come fifteen hundred miles to deliver

the most important message on Conservation that has ever been presented

to the people of this great country. (Applause) Yet I am not going to

take more than the twenty minutes allotted to assure you that the only

interest this State has in the Conservation movement is that which every

true friend of the movement stands for. Last night I cut out the meat of

my remarks, this morning the bones, and now there is nothing left but

the nerve, and I have scarcely enough "nerve" to deliver it. (Laughter

and applause)

The Conservation of natural resources does not consist merely in the

preservation of these resources for the benefit of future generations,

but rather such present use thereof as will result in the greatest

general good and yet maintain that productive power which insures

continued future enjoyment. (Applause) While it is true that exhaustible

resources like mineral wealth cannot be conserved for both future and

present use, except by economic regulations and the prevention of

wasteful methods, Conservation deals with their distribution in such a

way as to prevent their control by grasping corporations and

individuals, who would monopolize them for their own exclusive benefit

at the expense of the general public. (Applause)

It follows necessarily that any theory of Conservation which does not

provide for the present as well as the future does not cover the entire

field and cannot possibly bring the best results. (Applause) From every

economic standpoint it is desirable that the present generation should

be preferred, since future discoveries and inventions may render present

resources of less value and importance to the coming generations.

In its broadest sense the Conservation movement is not limited merely to

the consideration of natural resources. Every great convention called to

consider the problems involved has widened the scope of the movement so

that today it includes the elimination of wasteful methods in almost

every field of human activity and the conservation of all human endeavor

so as to confer on all mankind the greatest blessings that a bounteous

nature and twenty centuries of enlightenment can bestow.

Every consideration of natural resources for the purpose of eliminating

wasteful methods, preserving and increasing productive power, as well as

regulating operation and control, has for its ultimate object the

conservation of human energy, health and life, the securing of equal

opportunities for all, and such dissemination of knowledge as will

guarantee the continual possession and enjoyment of these blessings. The

subjects for consideration by this Congress should, therefore, include

not only the restoration and increase of soil fertility, the protection

and development of forests, mines and water-powers, the reclamation of

arid and swamp lands by irrigation and drainage, the forestation of

areas unsuited to farming, the control of rivers by reservoirs so as to

prevent flooding, as well as the elimination of waste in the use of

these resources, but also the problems of public comfort, health and

life that are so intimately connected with all material and

intellectual development. (Applause) Many of these questions will

concern home attractions and management, industrial education in the

public schools, public highways, State advertising and settlement, pure

food, public health, and sanitation.

By far the most important of all natural resources is the soil, and the

maintenance and increase of its fertility must, therefore, be given the

greatest consideration. (Applause) As long as food is necessary to human

life, agriculture must continue to be the most vital industry of man,

and the farm will be the most general and indispensable theater of his

activity. We must have manufacture, art, schools, churches and

government to round out our sphere of civilized existence, but the

foundation of them all is the farm. (Applause) From the earth come all

the materials for manufactures, the commodities of commerce, and

ultimately the support of all human institutions. During the half

century just past our country has devoted its energies to the

development of manufacturing and commercial industries to such an extent

that the scientific methods of agriculture necessary to insure not only

the permanency of our institutions but the very existence of human life

itself have been comparatively neglected. The pendulum is now swinging

back to the farm, and our great Nation is becoming aroused to the fact

that its most vital concern is the elimination of soil waste, the

promotion of scientific methods of agriculture, and the conservation of

that soil fertility which is the foundation of our entire social,

political and commercial superstructure. (Applause)

This new birth of agricultural progress comes at a psychological moment.

We have developed American manufactures until the $16,000,000,000

product of our mills and factories exceeds that of Germany, France, and

the United Kingdom combined. (Applause) We have built railroads by

liberal public and private enterprise until the United States has about

one-half of all the railway mileage and tonnage of the world. We have

developed banking enterprise and home trade until we have the greatest

banking power on earth, and an internal commerce which far exceeds the

entire foreign commerce of the globe. We have become the model of the

world in our free public schools and our republican form of government.

But while we have demonstrated the possession of the greatest

agricultural resources on the globe, and have heretofore supplied the

world's markets with an unparalleled volume of farm products, we have

wasted a wealth that would maintain our population for centuries. The

loss in farm values in nearly all of the older States, as shown by the

census records from 1880 to 1900, varies from $1,000,000 to $160,000,000

in each State and aggregates the enormous total of more than

$1,000,000,000. Is this not sufficient to arouse the entire Nation and

cause such a wave of reform as will put into activity every agency and

instrumentality for scientific and progressive methods of agricultural

reconstruction?

The unprecedented agricultural growth of the United States, in spite of

wasteful methods, has been caused by the extraordinary fertility of its

virgin soil, the great inducement offered by States and Nation to

promote settlement and cultivation, the rapid growth of favorable

transportation facilities, as well as the great demand for agricultural

products resulting from the rapid increase of population, wealth and

commercial enterprise.

Minnesota affords a splendid illustration of this development process,

and I trust that I may be pardoned for using my own State for that

purpose, since I am best acquainted with her conditions, development,

and resources. Of her 50,000,000 acres of land area, about one-half is

actually tilled, constituting the field area of about 200,000 farms

whose aggregate area, including lands not tilled, approximates

32,000,000 acres, or 160 acres each. Nearly 4,000,000 acres of her area

are covered by 10,000 lakes. This vast farm area possesses a soil

unsurpassed by any State or any country in the world. The great glacier

of several thousand years ago was generous to Minnesota. Its fine

glacial drift almost wholly covers the old rock formations. Coming from

many regions and rock sources, it has given to the soil an excellent

chemical composition. This, together with the vegetal mold, accumulated

for ages, makes the very best of hospitable soils. The incomparable

fertility of the Minnesota soil and its ability to withstand fifty years

of starvation methods in cultivation is accounted for by the almost

uniform mixture of vegetal mold with all kinds of decomposed rock drift,

thus making it possible for less than half of the State to produce farm

products aggregating the enormous total for 1909 of more than

$427,000,000. (Applause) It accounts also for the fact that, while

Minnesota, like all other States, during this period of fifty years has

been rather mining the fertility out of her soil than cultivating it,

she has withstood the consequent impoverishment without appreciable

shrinkage in farm value. There is perhaps not a single representative in

this distinguished assemblage who cannot recall the day when the virgin

soil in his locality did not produce from 50 to 100 percent larger crops

than it does today, when dense forests covered large tracts now a barren

waste, and when the bosom of the earth contained untold millions of

mineral wealth now represented on the surface by huge spoil-banks and

sunken surfaces. We remember only too well when our fertile fields

yielded thirty-five to forty bushels of wheat to the acre, and that the

same fields produced only about twelve bushels five years ago. In nearly

every community there is found that pathetic omen of decay, the deserted

farm--even in this young State.

The economic importance of soil conservation is so great that it can

scarcely be estimated. In making my estimates I have taken a very

conservative view, and while no absolutely accurate figures can be

obtained, the few that I shall give will be found sufficiently reliable

to establish the paramount value of soil conservation.

In Minnesota the low tide of soil impoverishment occurred about five

years ago. At that time, after several years of apparently unsuccessful

effort, the Agricultural College and schools, assisted by the State

Farmers' Institutes and the press, succeeded in stemming the tide and

arousing considerable interest in new methods of farming along more

intelligent and intensive lines. Only within the last year, however, has

progress been marked and rapid. When the first State Conservation

Congress was called to meet in Saint Paul, March, 1909, nearly every

township in the State was represented and all but two counties presented

agricultural and industrial exhibits, attracting a total attendance of

more than 150,000 people. The wonderful success of that Congress and the

enthusiasm it stirred up all over the State gave a great impetus to this

new era of agricultural reform in the entire Northwest and insured the

complete success of this Congress from a local standpoint. Never before

had 6,000 of the most progressive farmers of a State met for the purpose

of discussing more intelligent methods of farming, as well as the

suppression of wasteful methods in all fields of agricultural and

industrial activity.

During the past short period of five years the average cereal yield of

this State has been increased more than five bushels per acre; the corn

belt has been extended northward more than 300 miles to the Canadian

boundary by the production of hardy and early maturing varieties of

corn, yielding the State last year over 60,000,000 bushels, and placing

Minnesota among the dozen leading corn States of the Union. It is

estimated that plant breeding and seed selection alone last year added

about $15,000,000 to our agricultural products. The cereal production

has also affected clover, timothy and other tame grasses, thus largely

contributing to the growth of the dairy industry, which has been

increased ten-fold in twenty years until it now yields the State

$50,000,000 annually, several counties netting more than $1,000,000

each. Similar progress has been made in the live stock, fruit, and truck

gardening industries, and it is safe to conclude that Minnesota has

entered in earnest upon a complete plan of agricultural reconstruction.

But let us consider the opportunities for advancement that are still

open, in order that we may determine the economy of soil conservation in

terms of dollars and cents. The average yield of Minnesota wheat last

season was seventeen bushels per acre. At the agricultural experiment

stations the same wheat with improved seed selection and better

preparation of soil by crop rotation and tillage yielded twenty-eight

bushels per acre, climatic and soil conditions, as well as expense of

tillage being otherwise similar, a difference in favor of intelligent

farming approximating from five to eight dollars per acre, depending on

local conditions. Assuming for the sake of argument that the average

difference in the State would not be more than four dollars per acre, it

would still increase the agricultural net earning of the State on the

basis of the present acreage $100,000,000 annually. These figures do not

take into consideration the further increase of soil productivity by

various methods of fertilization other than those resulting from

planting crops which enrich the soil with nitrogen, phosphoric acid,

potash and calcium, the essential elements of plant growth. Besides, I

have not attempted to estimate the value of raising almost maximum

yields, where weather conditions are unfavorable, by such drainage,

preparation of soil, planting and tillage as will best suit local and

climatic conditions. No crop emphasizes the value of seed selection in

such unmistakable terms as corn. The average stand of this crop does not

exceed 60 percent, which means that the farmer spends 40 percent of his

time in the cornfield without result. By selecting the seed in the field

at the proper season, testing each ear before planting, and separating

with reference to size, so that as nearly as possible the planter will

put three kernels in each hill, the stand can be increased to at least

95 percent. Applying this increase to the 2,000,000 acres of cornfield

in Minnesota, it would add approximately 30,000,000 bushels with

practically no additional cost of production. That the importance of

this matter might be more firmly impressed upon the people of the State,

I have issued a seed-corn proclamation designating the time when the

seed-corn should be selected and calling the attention of the people to

the feed value of the corn product as well as corn fodder, which is of

utmost importance in a dry season like the one we are now experiencing.

This proclamation has received extensive publicity, and it is safe to

say that a large number of Minnesota's 200,000 farmers will heed the

note of warning.

Of still more vital importance, if possible, is the maintenance and

increase of soil fertility as a source of support for future

generations. The soil is the only permanent asset of the farmer, and its

net returns in crops constitute his annual dividends. Any impairment of

this asset will not only reduce the dividends on which his support

depends, but will destroy the productive power of the soil to such

extent as to deprive future owners of the most essential means of

livelihood. A loss of $1,000,000,000 in farm values, such as the older

States have already suffered, does not mean merely that this vast sum of

money has been wasted, but that its annual earning capacity on which

thousands should depend for support has been entirely destroyed, and

that these thousands have been forced to seek their sustenance from the

fields of commerce and manufacture in the large cities. We enact

stringent legislation to prevent the impairment of capital in our

banking institutions to protect depositors from loss, but the working

capital investment of millions in farm property on which all human

institutions must necessarily depend for existence has not been

safeguarded in any manner whatsoever. Without any organized effort to

interfere, we still permit millions of farmers to mine out the fertility

of the soil, thus increasing the drudgery of farm life, reducing every

source of farm income, converting the producers of the farm into

consumers of the city, and thus contributing directly to the great

increase in cost of living, the scarcity of farm labor, and the

congested conditions that breed disease and crime in our large cities.

Apply the situation to the country at large and you will find a

situation that is simply appalling. There are approximately 500,000,000

acres under actual tillage in the United States. Instead of figuring

four dollars per acre waste, which probably would be a fair average, we

will place the loss at the extremely low estimate of one dollar. This

will still make the total loss through wasteful farming methods in the

United States reach the enormous total of $500,000,000 annually. In

other words, if the loss were in fact not greater than one dollar per

acre, which is unquestionably too low, and that rate could be maintained

perpetually without an ultimate depletion of the soil, it would mean

that a capital investment of $12,500,000,000 with an earning capacity of

four percent per annum aggregating $500,000,000 annually, had been

completely destroyed.

At the rate of two dollars per acre, which is a low average, we are

every year wasting the income from $25,000,000,000, a sum so great as to

be entirely beyond human comprehension. In many of the older States,

where farms were sold forty years ago at $150 per acre, the same farms

cannot be sold today for $25 per acre, sometimes less than the actual

cash value of the buildings and other improvements, because the soil has

been robbed of its fertility, making it impossible for the owner to earn

the most meager living without restoring the vitality of the soil

through expensive methods of fertilization.

It is not at all difficult to see how such wasteful methods of farming

must affect the entire industrial situation. The younger generation,

inspired with the hopes, aspirations, and energy of youth, stirred by

the achievements, opportunities, and general prosperity of a truly great

Nation, and encouraged by the possibilities of a liberal education,

cannot afford to stake its future on the eking out of a mere existence

under the shadow of a rapidly increasing farm mortgage or the

threatening omen of a deserted homestead. All honor and credit to that

farmer's boy who early realizes the handicap placed upon him by the

impairment, and oftentimes utter destruction, of the only safe capital

investment of the farmer--fertile and productive soil. Should we

complain because he goes to the city to seek more inviting and

attractive fields of existence after having been robbed of his only

means of livelihood on the farm? This is the proper time for us to think

it over. In the younger States, where soil mining has been of such short

duration as to be incomplete, and the value of the land through

settlement, city growth, and increased transportation facilities is

constantly growing, the young man, who has learned intelligent and

progressive methods of farming, should have no fear as to the future,

for he has the making of a safe investment; but the young lad who,

without experience or training, unexpectedly finds himself possessor of

a farm where land values have ceased to rise and the soil has been

starved until it no longer can yield in abundance, has a white elephant

on his hands, and the sooner he can be brought to the realization

thereof the better for himself and the entire community.

Where a certain amount of labor should produce thirty bushels of wheat

to the acre, it yields but ten, or even less; and when the farmer

cultivates his corn, working ten hours per day, four hours thereof is

spent in vain, because 40 percent of the field has no corn--not to speak

of the poor quality of the corn grown on account of defective

preparation of soil, poor tillage, and the lack of necessary nutritive

elements within the soil itself. In addition, he has no knowledge as to

diversified farming, the value of live stock, dairying, fruit-raising,

truck-gardening, and many other means of livelihood which yield large

incomes to the possessor of a well-managed farm, nor does he appreciate

the enormous waste committed by unnecessary exposure to the elements of

farm machinery and buildings.

The young lady faces a similar situation. Every field of employment bids

her welcome at wages from $50 or more per month, and she has already

achieved such abundant success in every line of human enterprise, and at

the same time enjoyed all the pleasures and delights which bring cheer

to the heart of the young, that she cannot afford to even hesitate.

Should we complain if she refuses to stay on the farm and take her

chances of marrying a $25 man and a ruined farm plastered all over with

mortgages, and be chained in matrimonial bonds of lifelong drudgery to a

devastated farm homestead, robbed of everything that contributes to the

beautiful and good and true in a woman's life? (Great applause) There is

only one answer, and its conclusions are just.

Though I have presented a sad picture, it is not pessimistic. The

background is altogether cheerful. Two words express the most simple and

effective remedy: intelligent farming. This will not only make farming

profitable, but it will surround the home life on the farm with so many

attractions as to remove all desire for the deceptive allurements of a

city. Intelligent farming does not merely guarantee good dividends on a

farm investment, but it builds good roads to save cost of

transportation, consolidates rural schools where intelligent farming,

industry and home economics can be taught by precept and example,

beautifies the home and its surroundings and fills it with all the

attractions that elevate manhood and womanhood, teaches the younger

generation the dignity as well as reward of farm labor, and inspires the

laborer with the hope of a bright future.

Drainage, farm settlement, good roads, forestry, transportation,

industrial education, minerals, cheap heat and power resources, are all

important factors in the Conservation movement. Minnesota has

successfully drained about 3,000,000 acres in the northern part of the

State at an average cost of two dollars per acre, and converted into

meadows, grain and clover fields, celery and cranberry gardens, what

only a year or two since was a rough wilderness. Every State should have

some effective way of making these results known to prospective settlers

through exhibits and judicious advertising. No State officer is in a

position to bring greater returns to the State than the immigration

commissioner, and it is to be regretted that his work is so often

crippled by lack of sufficient appropriations.

In marketing produce, distributing material, fertilizer and machinery,

the farmers of Minnesota haul annually approximately 20,000,000 wagon

loads. Averaging the cost of each load over mostly unimproved roads at

$1.50, the cost of highway transportation in the State aggregates

$30,000,000. Most experts claim that uniformly good roads would reduce

this cost one-half, but conceding for the sake of argument that the

reduction would be only a third, the net saving to the farmers of the

State in one year would be about $10,000,000. However, this is not the

most important result. The building of good roads would build up farm

intercommunication and promote the consolidation of rural school

districts by making it possible to carry the pupils at all seasons of

the year some distance over country roads to the school at a minimum

cost.

Several of the north-central border States were the chief shippers of

lumber only a few years ago. Now our great forests are largely depleted,

and scientific deforestation has become an absolute necessity. One of

the most important duties the States as well as the Nation have to

perform is the transformation of this vast stumpage area into forests

and farms. Practical and scientific reforestation should convert the

lands unsuited for farming into forests, so that every acre would

produce revenue and furnish some necessity of life. The dry season of

1910 has particularly emphasized another important duty in this

connection, and that is the protection of our forests and settlers from

fires. It is a well known fact that enough timber has been destroyed by

fire within the last four months to pay for the adequate protection of

all our forests for a period of ten years or more, not to mention the

great loss of human life, which in itself imposes upon States and Nation

the duty of protection. This Congress should be instrumental in stirring

public sentiment to such an extent that the various legislatures and the

Congress will take immediate steps to stop this needless and expensive

waste.

Since mineral wealth is exhaustible, it follows that the interest of the

people in this important resource should be guarded against the

encroachments of greed with the utmost care. Minnesota furnishes now

one-half of all the iron-ore in the United States, and one-fourth of

that of the world, exporting this year about 40,000,000 tons. It is

estimated that not less than 2,000,000,000 tons of ore has been

definitely located, and that the volume of the undeveloped properties is

enormous. The State is the owner of very large quantities of ore, and

the income from this source alone will increase the State school fund by

at least $100,000,000.

No section of our country could profit more by water transportation than

that tributary to this great mineral wealth. The canalization of the

Mississippi river system with its 16,000 miles of streams would by cheap

transportation bring together the coal fields of the central interior

with the iron ore of the North, and produce in the Mississippi valley

the greatest iron and steel industries of the world, besides opening up

the greatest agricultural and industrial sections to the transportation

facilities of the Panama canal.

No commercial nation can long retain supremacy unless it has unlimited

supplies of cheap heat and power. In the north-central border States are

located peat deposits that should furnish cheap heat and power for

untold generations, Minnesota alone possessing more than 1,000,000

acres; and as the source of the three great watersheds of the country,

with an elevation of about 1,500 feet over sea and gulf level, there is

an abundance of water-power to turn the wheels of manufacture and

commerce.

Time will not permit any consideration of the strictly human side of

Conservation. We have saved millions of dollars annually by guarding

against plant and animal disease, and are just beginning to take note of

the untold millions wasted every month through neglect of preventable

and curable disease, impure foods, defective sanitation and health

inspection in homes and schools, unsuitable playgrounds for children,

and the lack of safeguards against railway, mine and factory accidents,

all of which come properly within the Conservation scope.

The splendid progress made by Minnesota and other States merely

emphasizes the importance of the Conservation movement. Warned by the

decay of older nations, we must act before the crisis of exhausted

natural resources reaches our Nation and commonwealths. Indeed, warned

by signs that are only too plain in our own midst, we must take decisive

action without delay. Fortunately, we have passed the pioneer stage of

development. Our Nation and commonwealths have all experienced many of

the disasters resulting from the skimming of natural resources. Having

discovered the vast mines of wealth which surround us everywhere, we

must now and forever determine that ignorance, selfishness, and greed

shall no longer control our governments and exhaust our resources.

(Great applause and cheers)

The problems before us are not merely of tremendous importance, but they

are also difficult as to solution. They frequently involve sharply

conflicting claims and interests as between the Nation and the various

commonwealths. Every State as well as the Nation itself should have a

distinct and separate department empowered to deal with all these

problems. It matters but little how it should be designated, though it

would serve all purposes best to be known as a Conservation Commission.

But it is of vital importance that the agency should be given sufficient

authority and funds, so as to enlist the strongest and best men in the

Conservation service. That such commissions would have sufficient work,

and that from an economic standpoint they would constitute good

investments, there is and can be no question.

Minnesota, as a distinctly progressive State and a recognized leader in

the Conservation movement, heartily welcomes this Congress with its

noted guests and speakers. We have the special honor of entertaining and

hearing the three truly great men who have contributed so much to the

actual achievements of the Conservation movement, and they are the three

most distinguished guests of this Congress, President Taft (applause and

the Chautauqua salute), Colonel Roosevelt (applause and cheers), and

James J. Hill. Minnesota appreciates this honor and will prove herself

worthy thereof. As her Chief Executive, I earnestly hope that the

deliberations of this Congress may bring results far beyond our hopes or

expectations. I am intensely interested in the Conservation of our

resources, and will use all my efforts in securing and enforcing the

best possible legislation, believing firmly that the Conservation

movement, as here outlined, will promote the general public welfare in a

far greater degree than any other, and that it is destined to mark the

twentieth century as an era of the greatest industrial achievement for

the benefit of all mankind. The people of Minnesota feel keenly their

duties and responsibilities with reference to their great heritage of

unsurpassed natural resources, and will continue as leaders in the only

movement that can insure the perpetuation of our country as the greatest

agricultural, industrial and commercial nation in the world. On their

behalf, I welcome you to the State. I thank you. (Applause)

* * * * *

President BAKER--It is now my pleasure to call upon his Honor, Mayor

Herbert E. Keller, who will welcome you on behalf of the great city of

Saint Paul. (Great applause and cheers)

Mayor KELLER--Mr President, Delegates to the Second National

Conservation Congress, and Guests: Upon me, as Chief Executive of the

city where this body will carry on its labors, the honor of welcoming

you devolves. It is a great privilege and pleasure to discharge this

duty, and yet my greeting can but inadequately convey to you the

appreciation felt by all Saint Paul at being selected as the scene of

this great Congress, whose deliberations mark the commencement of a new

epoch in the history of our country. (Applause)

The Conservation to and by ourselves as trustees, and the dedication and

perpetuation to our children and our children's children as

beneficiaries, of the tremendous natural resources of our country is a

duty and trust too sacred and too imperative to be disregarded or

lightly considered, once the situation stands revealed in its true

light. It is purely and simply a proposition of the greatest good for

the greatest number, and the sound judgment of a great people, with the

patriotism and unselfish devotion to duty of the founders of our country

ever before them, must and shall consider the greatest number to be the

countless millions of population to follow after us, and to whom must be

handed down a heritage not diminished or impoverished by us, the

temporary executors.

We may be likened to children turned loose in some vast Midas

treasurehouse and told to go where we would and take what we pleased. A

knock at the doors of Congress, a State legislature, or a city council,

gives the magical "Open Sesame!" And behold! the lavishing on some

private interest or individual of a great National or State property or

municipal right or franchise!

The Nation's bounty and generosity has been limitless, for the entire

previous history of the whole world provides no precedent for a guide.

But, fortunately, thoughtful minds began to work, awakened to what was

being done, and the result is the present all-pervasive sentiment and

determination to economize, to check improvidence and waste, and to

establish a policy whereby future generations, as well as the present,

may have equal opportunities to enjoy our natural benefits and

advantages; and Conservation is now more than a mere issue: it is an

assured, established, sane and universal desire to preserve and

perpetuate for ourselves and posterity the treasures of our country.

And so I bid you welcome to the city of Saint Paul. May your labors be

fruitful of great good. I know that your stay with us will be enjoyable.

Our city limits may be somewhat circumscribed for the immense crowds

here this week, but our hospitality and good wishes are as limitless as

the ocean. (Applause)

* * * * *

President BAKER--Fellow delegates, I am sure we all extend to his Honor,

Mayor Keller, a hearty vote of thanks for what he has done in preparing

for this Congress.

And now comes a privilege of which I am very proud--as a southern man

all my life--that of presenting to you the President of this great

Nation. (Great applause and cheers, the audience rising)

ADDRESS BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

_Ladies and Gentlemen_: Before beginning my formal address, I should

like to extend to the President and the Managers of this Congress, to

Governor Eberhart, and to the Mayor of the city, my sincere and cordial

thanks for the opportunity to come here and address this magnificent

audience, and to reach the people of the United States on a subject of

the utmost interest to them and to every patriot. (Applause)

Conservation, as an economic and political term, has come to mean the

preservation of our natural resources for economical use, so as to

secure the greatest good to the greatest number.

In the development of this country, in the hardships of the pioneer, in

the energy of the settler, in the anxiety of the investor for quick

returns, there was very little time, opportunity, or desire to prevent

waste of those resources supplied by nature which could not be quickly

transmuted into money; while the investment of capital was so great a

desideratum that the people as a community exercised little or no care

to prevent the transfer of absolute ownership of many of the valuable

natural resources to private individuals, without retaining some kind of

control of their use. The impulse of the whole new community was to

encourage the coming of population, the increase of settlement, and the

opening up of business; and he who demurred in the slightest degree to

any step which promised additional development of the idle resources at

hand was regarded as a traitor to his neighbors and an obstructor to

public progress. But now that the communities have become old, now that

the flush of enthusiastic expansion has died away, now that the would-be

pioneers have come to realize that all the richest lands in the country

have been taken up, we have perceived the necessity for a change of

policy in the disposition of our natural resources so as to prevent the

continuance of the waste which has characterized our phenomenal growth

in the past. Today we desire to restrict and retain under public control

the acquisition and use by the capitalists of our natural resources.

The danger to the State and to the people at large from the waste and

dissipation of our national wealth is not one which quickly impresses

itself on the people of the older communities, because its most obvious

instances do not occur in their neighborhood, while in the newer part of

the country the sympathy with expansion and development is so strong

that the danger is scoffed at or ignored. Among scientific men and

thoughtful observers, however, the danger has always been present; but

it needed some one to bring home the crying need for a remedy of this

evil so as to impress itself on the public mind and lead to the

formation of public opinion and action by the representatives of the

people. Theodore Roosevelt (great and prolonged applause) took up the

task in the last two years of his second administration, and well did he

perform it. (Great and prolonged applause)

As President of the United States I have, as it were, inherited this

policy, and I rejoice in my heritage (great applause). I prize my high

opportunity to do all that an Executive can do to help a great people

to realize a great national ambition; for Conservation _is_ National. It

affects every man of us, every woman, every child. What I can do in the

cause I shall do, not as President of a party, but as President of the

whole people (enthusiastic applause and cheers). Conservation is not a

question of politics, or of factions, or of persons. It is a question

that affects the vital welfare of all of us--of our children and our

children's children. I urge that no good can come from meetings of this

sort unless we ascribe to those who take part in them, and who are

apparently striving worthily in the cause, all proper motives

(applause), and unless we judiciously consider every measure or method

proposed with a view to its effectiveness in achieving our common

purpose, and wholly without regard to who proposes it or who will claim

credit for its adoption (great applause). The problems are of very great

difficulty, and call for the calmest consideration and clearest

foresight. Many of the questions presented have phases that are new in

this country, and it is possible that in their solution we may have to

attempt first one way and then another. What I wish to emphasize,

however, is that a satisfactory conclusion can only be reached promptly

if we avoid acrimony, imputations of bad faith and political controversy

(cries of "Hear, hear," and great applause).

The public domain of the Government of the United States, including all

the cessions from those of the thirteen States that made cessions to the

United States, and including Alaska, amounts in all to about

1,800,000,000 acres. Of this there is left as purely Government property

outside of Alaska something like 700,000,000 acres. Of this the national

forest reserves in the United States proper embrace 144,000,000 acres.

The rest is largely mountain or arid country, offering some opportunity

for agriculture by dry farming and by reclamation, and containing metals

as well as coal, phosphates, oils, and natural gas. Then the Government

owns many tracts of land lying along the margins of streams that have

water-power, the use of which is necessary in the conversion of the

power into electricity and its transmission.

I shall divide my discussion under the heads of (1) agricultural lands;

(2) mineral lands--that is, lands containing metalliferous minerals; (3)

forest lands; (4) coal lands; (5) oil and gas lands; and (6) phosphate

lands. I feel that it will conduce to a better understanding of the

problems presented if I take up each class and describe, even at the

risk of tedium, _first_, what has been done by the last Administration

and the present one in respect to each kind of land; _second_, what laws

at present govern its disposition; _third_, what was done by the present

Congress in the matter; and _fourth_, the statutory changes proposed in

the interest of Conservation.

AGRICULTURAL LANDS

Our land laws for the entry of agricultural lands are as follows:

The original Homestead Law, with the requirements of residence and

cultivation for five years, much more strictly enforced now than ever

before.

The Enlarged Homestead Act, applying to non-irrigable lands only,

requiring five years' residence and continuous cultivation of one-fourth

of the area.

The Desert-land Act, which requires on the part of the purchaser the

ownership of a water-right and thorough reclamation of the land by

irrigation, and the payment of $1.25 per acre.

The Donation or Carey Act, under which the State selects the land and

provides for its reclamation, and the title vests in the settler who

resides upon the land and cultivates it and pays the cost of the

reclamation.

The National Reclamation Homestead Law, requiring five years' residence

and cultivation by the settler on the land irrigated by the Government,

and payment by him to the Government of the cost of the reclamation.

There are other acts, but not of sufficient general importance to call

for mention unless it is the Stone and Timber Act, under which every

individual, once in his lifetime, may acquire 160 acres of land, if it

has valuable timber on it or valuable stone, by paying the price of not

less than $2.50 per acre, fixed after examination of the stone or timber

by a Government appraiser.

In times past, a great deal of fraud has been perpetrated in the

acquisition of lands under this Act, but it is now being much more

strictly enforced, and the entries made are so few in number that it

seems to serve no useful purpose and ought to be repealed. (Applause)

The present Congress passed a bill of great importance, severing the

ownership of coal by the Government in the ground from the surface and

permitting homestead entries upon the surface of the land, which, when

perfected, gives the settler the right to farm the surface, while the

coal beneath the surface is retained in ownership by the Government and

may be disposed of by it under other laws.

There is no crying need for radical reform in the methods of disposing

of what are really agricultural lands. The present laws have worked

well. The Enlarged Homestead Law has encouraged the successful farming

of lands in the semi-arid regions. Of course the teachings of the

Agricultural Department as to how these sub-arid lands may be treated

and the soil preserved for useful culture are of the very essence of

Conservation. Then the conservation of agricultural lands is shown in

the reclamation of arid lands by irrigation, and I should devote a few

words to what the Government has done and is doing in this regard.

By the Reclamation Act a fund has been created of the proceeds of the

public lands of the United States with which to construct works for

storing great bodies of water at proper altitudes from which, by a

suitable system of canals and ditches, the water is to be distributed

over the arid and sub-arid lands of the Government to be sold to

settlers at a price sufficient to pay for the improvements. Primarily

the projects are and must be for the improvement of public lands.

Incidentally, where private land is also within the reach of the water

supply, the furnishing at cost of operation of this water to private

owners by the Government is held by the federal Court of Appeals not to

be a usurpation of power; but certainly this ought not to be done except

from surplus water not needed for Government land. About thirty projects

have been set on foot, distributed through the public-land States, in

accordance with the Statute, by which allotments from the reclamation

fund are required to be, as nearly as practicable, in proportion to the

proceeds from the sale of the public lands in the respective States.

The total sum already accumulated in the reclamation fund is

$60,273,258.22, and of that all but $6,491,955.34 has been expended. It

became very clear to Congress at its last session, from the statements

made by experts, that these thirty projects could not be promptly

completed with the balance remaining on hand, or with the funds likely

to accrue in the near future. It was found, moreover, that there are

many settlers who have been led into taking up lands with the hope and

understanding of having water furnished in a short time, who are left in

a most distressing situation. I recommended to Congress that authority

be given to the Secretary of the Interior to issue bonds in anticipation

of the assured earnings by the projects, so that the projects, worthy

and feasible, might be promptly completed and the settlers might be

relieved from their present inconvenience and hardship (applause). In

authorizing the issue of these bonds, Congress limited the application

of their proceeds to those projects which a board of army engineers, to

be appointed by the President, should examine and determine to be

feasible and worthy of completion. The board has been appointed, and

soon will make its report.

Suggestions have been made that the United States ought to aid in the

drainage of swamp lands belonging to the States or private owners,

because, if drained, they would be exceedingly valuable for agriculture

and contribute to the general welfare by extending the area of

cultivation. I deprecate the agitation in favor of such legislation. It

is inviting the general Government into contribution from its treasury

toward enterprises that should be conducted either by private capital or

at the instance of the State (applause). In these days there is a

disposition to look too much to the Federal Government for everything

(applause). I am liberal in the construction of the Constitution with

reference to Federal power (applause); but I am firmly convinced that

the only safe course for us to pursue is to hold fast to the limitations

of the Constitution, and to regard as sacred the powers of the States

(great applause and cheers). We have made wonderful progress, and at

the same time have preserved with judicious exactness the restrictions

of the Constitution. There is an easy way in which the Constitution can

be violated by Congress without judicial inhibition, to-wit, by

appropriations from the National treasury for unconstitutional purposes.

It will be a sorry day for this country if the time ever comes when our

fundamental compact shall be habitually disregarded in this manner.

(Applause)

MINERAL LANDS

By mineral lands, I mean those lands bearing metals, or what are called

metalliferous minerals.

The rules of ownership and disposition of these lands were first fixed

by custom in the West, and then were embodied in the law, and they have

worked, on the whole, so fairly and well that I do not think it is wise

now to attempt to change or better them. The apex theory of tracing

title to a lode has led to much litigation and dispute, and ought not to

have become the law, but it is so fixed and understood now that the

benefit to be gained by a change is altogether outweighed by the

inconvenience that would attend the introduction of a new system. So

too, the proposition for the Government to lease such mineral lands and

deposits and to impose royalties might have been, in the beginning, a

good thing, but now that most of the mineral land has been otherwise

disposed of--I do not refer here to coal land or gas land or oil land or

phosphate land--it would hardly be worth while to assume the

embarrassments of a radical change.

FOREST LANDS

Nothing can be more important in the matter of Conservation than the

treatment of our forest lands. It was probably the ruthless destruction

of forests in the older States that first called attention to the

necessity for a halt in the waste of our resources. This was recognized

by Congress by an act authorizing the Executive to reserve from entry

and set aside public timber lands as National forests. Speaking

generally, there has been reserved of the existing forests about 70

percent of all the timber lands of the Government. Within these forests

(including 26,000,000 acres in two forests in Alaska) are 192,000,000

acres, of which 166,000,000 acres are in the United States proper and

include within their boundaries something like 22,000,000 acres that

belong to the States or to private individuals. We have, then, excluding

Alaskan forests, a total of about 144,000,000 acres of forests belonging

to the Government, which are being treated in accord with the principles

of scientific forestry. The law now prohibits the reservation of any

more forest lands in Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, Colorado and

Wyoming, except by act of Congress. I am informed by the Department of

Agriculture that the Government owns other tracts of timber lands in

these States which should be included in the forest reserves. I expect

to recommend to Congress that the limitation herein imposed shall be

repealed (applause). In the present forest reserves there are lands

which are not properly forest land, and which ought to be subject to

homestead entry. This has caused some local irritation. We are carefully

eliminating such lands from forest reserves or, where their elimination

is not practicable, listing them for entry under the forest homestead

act.

Congress ought to trust the Executive to use the power of reservation

only with respect to land covered by timber or which will be useful in

the plan of reforestation (applause). I am in favor of each branch of

the Government trusting the good faith of the other (applause). During

the present Administration, 6,250,000 acres of land, largely

non-timbered, have been excluded from forest reserves, and 3,500,000

acres of land, principally valuable for forest purposes, have been

included in forest reserves, making a reduction in forest reserves of

non-timbered land amounting to 2,750,000 acres. But had we had the

opportunity to include reserves in the forbidden States, the balance

would have been otherwise. The Bureau of Forestry since its creation has

initiated reforestation on 5,600 acres. A great deal of the forest land

is available for grazing. During the past year the grazing lessees

numbered 25,400, and they pastured upon the forest reserves 1,400,000

cattle, 84,540 horses, and 7,580,400 sheep, for which the Government

received $986,715--a decrease from the preceding year of $45,000, due to

the fact that no money was collected or received for grazing on the

non-timbered land eliminated from the forest reserve. Another source of

profit in the forestry is the receipts for timber sold. This year they

amounted to $1,043,000, an increase of $307,000 over the receipts of

last year. This increase is due to improvement in transportation to

market, and to the greater facility with which the timber can be

reached.

The Government timber in this country amounts to only one-fourth of all

the timber, the rest being in private ownership. Only three percent of

that which is in private ownership is looked after properly and treated

according to modern rules of forestry (applause). The usual destructive

waste and neglect continue in the remainder of the forests owned by

private persons and corporations. It is estimated that fire alone

destroys $50,000,000 worth of timber a year. The management of forests

not on public land is beyond the jurisdiction of the Federal Government.

If anything can be done by law it must be done by the State

legislatures. I believe that it is within their constitutional power to

require the enforcement of regulations, in the general public interest,

as to fire and other causes of waste in the management of forests owned

by private individuals and corporations. (Applause)

Exactly how far these regulations can go and remain consistent with the

rights of private ownership, it is not necessary to discuss; but I call

attention to the fact that a very important part of Conservation must

always fall upon the State legislatures, and that they would better be

up and doing if they would save the waste and denudation and destruction

through private greed or accidental fires that have made barren many

square miles of the older States. (Great applause)

I have shown sufficiently the conditions as to Federal forestry to

indicate that no further legislation is needed at the moment except an

increase in the fire protection to National forests and an act vesting

the Executive with full power to make forest reservations in every State

where Government land is timber-covered, or where the land is needed for

forestry purposes.

OTHER LAND WITHDRAWALS

When President Roosevelt became fully advised of the necessity for the

change in our disposition of public lands, especially those containing

coal, oil, gas, phosphates, or water-power sites, he began the exercise

of the power of withdrawal by Executive order of lands subject by law to

homestead and the other methods of entering for agricultural lands. The

precedent he set in this matter was followed by the present

Administration. Doubt had been expressed in some quarters as to the

power in the Executive to make such withdrawals. The confusion and

injustice likely to arise if the courts were to deny the power led me to

appeal to Congress to give the President the express power (applause).

Congress has complied. The law, as passed, does not expressly validate

or confirm previous withdrawals, and therefore, as soon as the new law

was passed, I, myself, confirmed all the withdrawals which had

theretofore been made by both Administrations by making them over again

(great applause). The power of withdrawal is a most useful one, and I do

not think it is likely to be abused.

COAL LANDS

The next subject, and one of the most important for our consideration,

is the disposition of the coal lands in the United States and in Alaska.

First, as to those in the United States.

At the beginning of this Administration there were classified coal lands

amounting to 5,476,000 acres, and there were withdrawn from entry for

purposes of classification 17,867,000 acres. Since that time there has

been withdrawn by my order from entry for classification 77,648,000

acres, making a total withdrawal of 95,515,000 acres (applause).

Meantime, of the acres thus withdrawn, 11,371,000 have been classified

and found not to contain coal, and have been restored to agricultural

entry, and 4,356,000 acres have been classified as coal lands; while

79,788,000 acres remain withdrawn from entry and await classification.

In addition, 336,000 acres have been classified as coal lands without

prior withdrawal, thus increasing the classified coal lands to

10,168,000 acres.

Under the laws providing for the disposition of coal lands in the United

States, the minimum price at which lands are permitted to be sold is $10

an acre; but the Secretary of the Interior has the power to fix a

maximum price and to sell at that price. By the first regulations

governing appraisal, approved April 8, 1907, the minimum was $10, as

provided by law, and the maximum was $100, and the highest price

actually placed upon any land sold was $75. Under the new regulations,

adopted April 10, 1909, the maximum price was increased to $300 except

in regions where there are large mines, where no maximum limit is fixed

and the price is determined by the estimated tons of coal to the acre.

The highest price fixed for any land under this regulation has been $608

per acre. The appraised value of the lands classified as coal lands and

valued under the new and old regulations is shown to be as follows:

4,303,000 acres valued under the old regulation at $77,000,000--an

average of $18 an acre--and 5,864,000 acres classified and valued under

the new regulation at $394,000,000, or a total of 10,168,000 acres

valued at $471,000,000. For the year ending March 31, 1909, 227 coal

entries were made, embracing an area of 35,000 acres, which sold for

$663,000; for the year ending March 31, 1910, there were 176 entries,

embracing an area of 23,000 acres, which sold for $608,000, and down to

August, 1910, there were but 17 entries, with an area of 1,720 acres

which sold for $33,900; making a disposition of coal lands in the last

two years of about 60,000 acres for $1,305,000.

The present Congress, as already said, has separated the surface of coal

lands either classified or withdrawn to be classified from the coal

beneath, so as to permit at all times homestead entries upon the surface

of lands useful for agriculture, and to reserve the ownership in the

coal to the Government.

The question which remains to be considered is whether the existing law

for the sale of the coal in the ground should continue in force or be

repealed and a new method of disposition adopted. Under the present law

the absolute title in the coal beneath the surface passes to the grantee

of the Government. The price fixed is upon an estimated amount of the

tons of coal per acre beneath the surface, and the prices are fixed so

that the earnings will only be a reasonable profit upon the amount paid

and the investment necessary. But, of course, this is more or less

guesswork, and the Government parts with the ownership of the coal in

the ground absolutely. Authorities in the Geological Survey estimate

that in the United States today there is a supply of about three

thousand billion tons of coal, and that of this one-third, or about one

thousand billion, are in the public domain. Of course, the other two

thousand billion are within private ownership and under no more control

as to the use or the prices at which the coal may be sold than any other

private property.

If the Government leases the coal lands and acts as any landlord would,

and imposes conditions in its leases like those which are now imposed by

the owners in fee of coal mines in the various coal regions of the East,

then it would retain over the disposition of the coal deposits a choice

as to the assignee of the lease, a power of resuming possession at the

end of the term of the lease, or of readjusting terms at fixed periods

of the lease, which might easily be framed to enable it to exercise a

limited but effective control in the disposition and sale of the coal to

the public (applause). It has been urged that the leasing system has

never been adopted in this country, and that its adoption would largely

interfere with the investment of capital and the proper development and

opening up of coal resources. I venture to differ entirely from this

view (applause). My investigations show that many owners of mining

property of this country do not mine it themselves, and do not invest

their money in the plants necessary for the mining, but they lease their

properties for a term of years varying from twenty to thirty and forty

years, under conditions requiring the erection of a proper plant and the

investment of a certain amount of money in the development of the mines,

and fixing a rental and a royalty, sometimes an absolute figure and

sometimes one proportioned to the market value of the coal. Under this

latter method the owner of a mine shares in the prosperity of his

lessees when coal is high and the profits good, and also shares to the

same extent in their disappointment when the price of coal falls.

I have looked with some care into a report made at the instance of

President Roosevelt upon the disposition of coal lands in Australia,

Tasmania, and New Zealand. These are peculiarly mining countries, and

their experience ought to be most valuable. In all these countries the

method for the disposition and opening of coal mines originally owned by

the Government is by granting a leasehold, and not by granting an

absolute title. The terms of the leases run all the way from twenty to

fifty years while the amount of land which may be leased to any

individual there is from 320 acres to 2,000 acres. It appears that a

full examination was made and the opinions of all the leading experts on

the subject were solicited and given, and that with one accord they

approved in all respects the leasing system (applause). Its success is

abundantly shown.

It is possible that at first considerable latitude will have to be given

to the Executive in drafting these forms of lease, but as soon as

experiment shall show which is the most workable and practicable, its

use should be provided for specifically by statute. The question as to

how great an area ought to be included in a lease to one individual or

corporation is not free from difficulty; but in view of the fact that

the Government retains control as owner, I think there might be some

liberality in the amount leased, and that 2,500 acres would not be too

great a maximum.

By the opportunity to register the terms upon which the coal shall be

held by the tenant, either at the end of each lease or at periods during

the term, the Government may secure the benefit of sharing in the

increased price of coal and the additional profit made by the tenant. By

imposing conditions in respect to the character of work to be done in

the mine, the Government may control the character of the development of

the mine and the treatment of employees with reference to safety

(applause). By denying the right to transfer the lease except by written

permission of Government authorities, it may withhold the needed consent

when it is proposed to transfer the leasehold to persons interested in

establishing a monopoly of coal production in any State or neighborhood

(applause).

As one-third of all the coal supply is held by the Government, it seems

wise that it should retain such control over the mining and the sale as

the relation of lessor to lessee furnishes. The change from the absolute

grant to the leasing system will involve a good deal of trouble in the

outset, and the training of experts in the matter of making proper

leases; but the change will be a good one and can be made. The change is

in the interest of Conservation, and I am glad to approve it. (Great

applause)

ALASKA COAL LANDS

The investigations of the Geological Survey show that the coal

properties in Alaska cover about 1,200 square miles, and that there are

known to be available about fifteen billion tons. This is, however, an

underestimate of the coal in Alaska, because further developments will

probably increase this amount many times; but we can say with

considerable certainty that there are two fields on the Pacific slope

which can be reached by railways at a reasonable cost from deep

water--in one case of about 50 miles and in the other case of about

150--which will afford certainly six billion tons of coal, more than

half of which is of a very high grade of bituminous and of anthracite.

It is estimated to be worth, in the ground, one-half cent a ton, which

makes its value per acre from $50 to $500. The coking-coal lands of

Pennsylvania are worth from $800 to $2,000 an acre, while other

Appalachian fields are worth from $10 to $386 an acre, and the fields in

the central States from $10 to $2,000 an acre, and in the Rocky

mountains from $10 to $500 an acre.

The demand for coal on the Pacific Coast is for about 4,500,000 tons a

year. It would encounter the competition of cheap fuel oil, of which the

equivalent of 12,000,000 tons of coal a year is used there. It is

estimated that the coal could be laid down at Seattle or San Francisco,

a high-grade bituminous at $4 a ton, and anthracite at $5 or $6 a ton.

The price of coal on the Pacific slope varies greatly from time to time

in the year and from year to year--from $4 to $12 a ton. With a regular

coal supply established, the expert of the Geological Survey, Mr Brooks,

who has made a report on the subject, does not think there would be an

excessive profit in the Alaska coal mining because the price at which

the coal could be sold would be considerably lowered by competition from

these fields and by the presence of crude fuel oil. The history of the

laws affecting the disposition of Alaska coal lands shows them to need

amendment badly. Speaking of them, Mr Brooks says:

The first act, passed June 6, 1900, simply extended to Alaska

the provisions of the coal lands in the United States. The law

was ineffective, for it provided that only subdivided lands

could be taken up and there were no land surveys in Alaska.

I do not like to criticise a coordinate branch of the

Government. The Executive makes mistakes, and so does Congress,

but I do not think it reflects greatly on the intense interest

that Congress had in Alaska and her development that they

should go to work and pass a law affecting the coal lands in

Alaska that didn't operate there at all [applause]. The matter

was rectified by the act of April 28, 1904, which permitted

unsurveyed lands to be entered and the surveys to be made at

the expense of the entrymen. Unfortunately the law provided

that only tracts of 160 acres could be taken up, and no

recognition was given to the fact that it was impracticable to

develop an isolated coal field requiring the expenditure of a

large amount of money by such small communities. Many claims

were staked, however, and surveys were made for patents. It was

recognized by everyone familiar with the conditions that after

patent was obtained these claims would be combined in tracts

large enough to assure successful mining operation. No one

experienced in mining would, of course, consider it feasible to

open a coal field on a basis of a single 160-acre tract. The

claims for the most part were handled in groups, for which one

agent represented the several different owners. Unfortunately a

strict interpretation of the statute raised the question

whether even a tacit understanding between claim-owners to

combine after patents had been obtained was not illegal.

Remedial legislation was sought and enacted in the statute of

May 28, 1908. This law permitted the consolidation of claims

staked previous to November 12, 1906, in tracts of 2,560 acres.

One clause of this law invalidated the title if any individual

or corporation at any time in the future owned any interest

whatsoever, directly or indirectly, in more than one tract. The

purpose of this clause was to prevent the monopolization of

coal fields. Its immediate effect was to discourage capital. It

was felt by many that this clause might lead to forfeiture of

title through the accidents of inheritance, or might even be

used by the unscrupulous in blackmail. It would appear that

land taken up under this law might at any time be forfeited to

the Government through the action of any individual, who,

innocently or otherwise, obtained interest in more than one

coal company. Such a title was felt to be too insecure to

warrant the large investments needed for mining development.

The net result of all this is that no titles to coal lands have

been passed.

On November 12, 1906, President Roosevelt issued an Executive order

withdrawing all coal lands from location and entry in Alaska. On May 16,

1907, he modified the order so as to permit valid locations made prior

to the withdrawal on November 12, 1906, to proceed to entry and patent.

Prior to that date some 900 claims had been filed, most of them said to

be illegal because either made fraudulently by dummy entrymen in the

interest of one individual or corporation, or because of agreements made

prior to location between the applicants to cooperate in developing the

lands. There are thirty-three claims for 160 acres each, known as the

"Cunningham claims," which are said to be valid on the ground that they

were made by an attorney for thirty-three different and bona fide

claimants who, as alleged, paid their money and took proper steps to

locate their entries and protect them. The representatives of the

Government, on the other hand, in the hearings before the Land Office

have attacked the validity of these Cunningham claims on the ground that

prior to their location there was an understanding between the claimants

to pool their claims after they had been perfected and unite them in one

company.

The trend of decision seems to show that such an agreement would

invalidate the claims, although under the subsequent law of May 28,

1908, the consolidation of such claims was permitted, _after_ location

and entry, in tracts of 2,560 acres. It would be, of course, improper

for me to intimate what the result of the issue as to the Cunningham and

other Alaska claims is likely to be, but it ought to be distinctly

understood that no private claims for Alaska coal lands have as yet been

allowed or perfected, and also that whatever the result as to pending

claims, the existing coal-land laws of Alaska are most unsatisfactory

and should be radically amended (applause). To begin with, the purchase

price of the land is a flat rate of $10 per acre, with no power to

increase it beyond that, although, as we have seen, the estimate of the

agent of the Geological Survey would carry up the maximum of value to

$500 an acre.

In my judgment it is essential to the proper development of Alaska that

these coal lands should be opened, and that the Pacific slope should be

given the benefit of the comparatively cheap coal of fine quality which

can be furnished at a reasonable price from these fields (great

applause); but the public, through the Government, ought certainly to

retain a wise control and interest in these coal deposits (applause),

and I think it may do so safely if Congress will authorize the granting

of leases, as already suggested for Government coal lands in the United

States, with provisions forbidding the transfer of the leases except

with the consent of the Government, thus preventing their acquisition by

a combination or monopoly, and upon limitations as to the area to be

included in any one lease to one individual, and at a certain moderate

rental, with royalties upon the coal mined proportioned to the market

value of the coal laid down either at Seattle or at San Francisco

(applause). Of course such leases should contain conditions requiring

the erection of proper plants, the proper development by modern mining

methods of the properties leased, and the use of every known and

practical means and device for saving the life of the miners.

The Government of the United States has much to answer for in not having

given proper attention to the Government of Alaska and the development

of her resources for the benefit of all the people of the country. I

would not force development at the expense of a present or future waste

of resources; but the problem as to the disposition of the coal lands

for present and future use can be wisely and safely settled in one

session if Congress gives it careful attention. (Great applause)

OIL AND GAS LANDS

In the last Administration there were withdrawn from agricultural entry

2,820,000 acres of supposed oil land in California, about 1,500,000

acres in Louisiana (of which only 6,500 acres were known to be vacant,

unappropriated land), 75,000 acres in Oregon, and 174,000 acres in

Wyoming, making a total of nearly 4,000,000 acres.

In September, 1909, I directed that all public oil lands, whether then

withdrawn or not, should be withheld from disposition pending

congressional action, for the reason that the existing placer mining

law, although made applicable to deposits of this character, is not

suitable to such lands, and for the further reason that it seemed

desirable to reserve certain fuel-oil deposits for the use of the

American Navy. Accordingly the form of all existing withdrawals was

changed, and new withdrawals, aggregating 2,750,000 acres, were made, in

Arizona, California, Colorado, New Mexico, Utah and Wyoming. Field

examinations during the year showed that of the original withdrawals,

2,170,000 acres were not valuable for oil, and they were restored for

agricultural entry. Meantime other withdrawals of public oil lands in

these States were made, so that on July 1, 1910, the outstanding

withdrawals then amounted to 4,550,000 acres.

The needed oil and gas law is essentially a leasing law. In their

natural occurrence oil and gas cannot be measured in terms of acres,

like coal, and it follows that exclusive title to these products can

normally be secured only after they reach the surface. Oil should be

disposed of as a commodity in terms of barrels of transportable product

rather than in acres of real estate (applause). This is, of course, the

reason for the practically universal adoption of the leasing system

wherever oil land is in private ownership. The Government thus would not

be entering on an experiment, but simply putting into effect a plan

successfully operated in private contracts. Why should not the

Government as a land-owner deal directly with the oil producer rather

than through the intervention of a middleman to whom the Government

gives title to the land? (Applause) The principal underlying feature of

such legislation should be the exercise of beneficial control rather

than the collection of revenue.

As not only the largest owner of oil lands, but as a prospective large

consumer of oil by reason of the increasing use of fuel-oil by the navy,

the Federal Government is directly concerned both in encouraging

rational development and at the same time insuring the longest possible

life to the oil supply. The royalty rates fixed by the Government should

neither exceed nor fall below the current rates. But much more important

than revenue is the enforcement of regulations to conserve the public

interest so that the inconvenience of the lessee shall specifically

safeguard oil fields against the penalties from careless drilling and of

production in excess of transportation facilities or of market

requirement.

One of the difficulties presented, especially in the California fields,

is that the Southern Pacific Railroad owns every other section of land

in the oil fields, and in those fields the oil seems to be in a common

reservoir, or series of reservoirs, communicating through the oil sands,

so that the excessive draining of oil at one well, or on the railroad

territory generally, would exhaust the oil in the Government land. Hence

it is important that if the Government is to have its share of the oil,

it should begin the opening and development of wells on its own

property. (Laughter and applause)

In view of the joint ownership which the Government and the adjoining

land-owners, like the Southern Pacific Railroad, have in the oil

reservoirs below the surface, it is a most interesting and intricate

question, difficult of solution, but one which ought to address itself

at once to the State law-makers, how far the State legislature might

impose appropriate restrictions to secure an equitable enjoyment of the

common reservoir, and to prevent waste and excessive drainage by the

various owners having access to this reservoir (applause). It has been

suggested, and I believe the suggestion to be a sound one, that permits

be issued to a prospector for oil, giving him the right to prospect for

two years over a certain tract of Government land for the discovery of

oil, the right to be evidenced by a license for which he pays a small

sum. When the oil is discovered, then he acquires title to a certain

tract, much in the same way as he would acquire title under a mining

law. Of course, if the system of leasing is adopted, then he would be

given the benefit of a lease upon terms like that above suggested. What

has been said in respect to oil applies also to Government gas lands.

Under the proposed oil legislation, especially where the Government oil

lands embrace an entire oil field, as in many cases, prospectors,

operators, consumers, and the public can be benefitted by the adoption

of the leasing system. The prospector can be protected in the very

expensive work that necessarily antedates discovery. The operator can be

protected against impairment of productiveness of the wells which he has

leased by reason of the control of drilling and pumping of other wells

too closely adjacent or by the prevention of imperfect methods as

employed by careless, ignorant or irresponsible operators in the same

field, which result in the admission of water to the oil sand; while, of

course, the consumer will profit by whatever benefits the prospector or

operator receives in reducing the first cost of the oil.

PHOSPHATE LAND

Phosphorus is one of the three essentials to plant growth, the other

elements being nitrogen and potash. Of these three, phosphorus is by all

odds the greatest element in nature. It is easily extracted in useful

form from the phosphate rock, and the United States contains the

greatest known deposits of this rock in the world. They are found in

Wyoming, Utah and Florida, as well as in South Carolina, Georgia and

Tennessee. The Government phosphate lands are confined to Wyoming, Utah

and Florida. Prior to March 4, 1909, there were four million acres

withdrawn from agricultural entry on the ground that the land covered

phosphate rock. Since that time 2,322,000 acres of the land thus

withdrawn was found not to contain phosphate in profitable quantities,

while 1,678,000 acres was classified properly as phosphate land. During

this Administration there has been withdrawn and classified 437,000

acres, so that today there is classified as phosphate rock land

2,115,000 acres.

The rock is most important in the composition of fertilizers to improve

the soil, and as the future is certain to create an enormous demand

throughout this country for fertilization, the value to the public of

such deposits as these can hardly be exaggerated. Certainly with respect

to these deposits a careful policy of Conservation should be followed.

Half of the phosphate of the rock that is mined in private fields in the

United States is now exported. As our farming methods grow better the

demand for the phosphate will become greater, and it must be arranged so

that the supply shall equal the needs of the country. It is uncertain

whether the placer or lode law applies to the Government phosphate rock.

There is, therefore, a necessity for some definite and well-considered

legislation on this subject, and in aid of such legislation all of the

Government lands known to contain valuable phosphate rock are now

withdrawn from entry.

A law that would provide a leasing system for the phosphate deposits,

together with a provision for the separation of the surface and mineral

rights as is already provided for in the case of coal, would seem to

meet the need of promoting the development of these deposits and their

utilization in the agricultural lands of the West. If it is thought

desirable to discourage the exportation of phosphate rock and the saving

of it for our own lands, this purpose could be accomplished by

conditions in the lease granted by the Government to its lessee. Of

course, under the Constitution the Government could not tax and could

not prohibit the exportation of phosphate, but as proprietor and owner

of the lands in which the phosphate is deposited it could impose

conditions upon the kind of sales, whether foreign or domestic, which

the lessee might make of the phosphate mined. (Applause)

The tonnage represented by the phosphate lands in Government ownership

is very great. But the lesson has been learned in the case of such lands

as have passed into private ownership in South Carolina, Florida and

Tennessee, that the phosphate deposits there are in no sense

inexhaustible. Moreover, it is also well understood that in the process

of mining phosphate, as it has been pursued, much of the lower grade of

phosphate rock which will eventually all be needed has been wasted

beyond recovery. Such wasteful methods can easily be prevented, so far

as the Government land is concerned, by conditions inserted in the

leases.

WATER-POWER SITES

Prior to March 4, 1909, there had been, on the recommendation of the

Reclamation Service, withdrawn from agricultural entry, because they

were regarded as useful for power sites which ought not to be disposed

of as agricultural lands, tracts amounting to about 4,000,000 acres. The

withdrawals were hastily made and included a great deal of land that was

not useful for power sites. They were intended to include the power

sites on twenty-nine rivers in nine States. Since that time 3,475,442

acres have been restored for settlement of the original 4,000,000,

because they do not contain power sites; and meantime there have been

newly withdrawn 1,245,892 acres on vacant public land and 211,007 acres

on entered public land, or a total of 1,456,899 acres. These withdrawals

made from time to time cover all the power sites included in the first

withdrawals, and many more, on 135 rivers and in 11 States. The

disposition of these power sites involves one of the most difficult

questions presented in carrying out practical Conservation.

The Forest Service, under a power found in the Statute, has leased a

number of these power sites in forest reserves by revocable leases, but

no such power exists with respect to power sites that are not located

within forest reserves; and the revocable system of leasing is, of

course, not a satisfactory one for the purpose of inviting the capital

needed to put in proper plants for the transmission of power.

The Statute of 1891, with its amendments, permits the Secretary of the

Interior to grant perpetual easements or rights-of-way from water

sources over public lands for the primary purpose of irrigation and such

electrical current as may be incidentally developed, but no grant can be

made under this Statute to concerns whose primary purpose is generating

and handling electricity. The Statute of 1901 authorizes the Secretary

of the Interior to issue revocable permits over the public lands to

electrical power companies, but this Statute is woefully inadequate

because it does not authorize the collection of a charge or fix a term

of years. Capital is slow to invest in an enterprise founded upon a

permit revocable at will.

The subject is one that calls for new legislation. It has been thought

that there was danger of combination to obtain possession of all the

power sites and to unite them under one control. Whatever the evidence

of this, or lack of it, at present we have had enough experience to know

that combination would be profitable, and the control of a great number

of power sites would enable the holders or owners to raise the price of

power at will within certain sections; and the temptation would promptly

attract investors, and the danger of monopoly would not be a remote one.

However this may be, it is the plain duty of the Government to see to it

that in the utilization and development of all this immense amount of

water-power, conditions shall be imposed that will prevent monopoly, and

will prevent extortionate charges which are the accompaniment of

monopoly. The difficulty of adjusting the matter is accentuated by the

relation of the power sites to the water, the fall and flow of which

create the power.

In the States where these sites are, the riparian owner does not control

or own the power in the water which flows past his land. That power is

under the control and within the grant of the State, and generally the

rule is that the first user is entitled to the enjoyment. Now, the

possession of the bank or water-power site over which the water is to be

conveyed in order to make the power useful, gives to its owner an

advantage and a certain kind of control over the use of the water-power,

and it is proposed that the Government in dealing with its own lands

should use this advantage and lease lands for power sites to those who

would develop the power, and impose conditions on the leasehold with

reference to the reasonableness of the rates at which the power, when

transmuted, is to be furnished to the public, and forbidding the union

of the particular power with a combination of others made for the

purpose of monopoly by forbidding assignment of the lease save by

consent of the Government (applause). Serious difficulties are

anticipated by some in such an attempt on the part of the general

Government, because of the sovereign control of the State over the

water-power in its natural condition, and the mere proprietorship of the

Government in the riparian lands.

It is contended that through its mere proprietary right in the site the

central Government has no power to attempt to exercise police

jurisdiction with reference to how the water-power in a river owned and

controlled by the State shall be used, and that it is a violation of the

State's rights. I question the validity of this objection. The

Government may impose any conditions that it chooses in its lease of its

own property, even though it may have the same purpose and in effect

accomplish just what the State would accomplish by the exercise of its

sovereignty. That is shown frequently in leases of houses containing a

covenant against the use of the house for that which under the law of

the State is an unlawful use; and nevertheless, no one has ever

contended that that condition, though it be for the stricter enforcement

of the State law, is without the power of the lessor as a proprietor of

the land which he is leasing.

There are those (and the Director of the Geological Survey, Mr Smith,

who has given a great deal of attention to this matter, is one of them)

who insist that this matter of transmuting water-power into electricity

which can be conveyed all over the country and across State lines, is a

matter that ought to be retained by the general Government, and that it

should avail itself of the ownership of these power sites for the very

purpose of coordinating in one general plan the power generated from

these Government-owned sites. On the other hand, it is contended that it

would relieve a complicated situation if the control of the water-power

site and the control of the water were vested in the same sovereignty

and ownership, viz: the State, and then were disposed of for development

to private lessees under the restrictions needed to preserve the

interests of the public from the extortions and abuses of monopoly.

Therefore, bills have been introduced in Congress providing that

whenever the State authorities deem a water-power useful they may apply

to the Government of the United States for a grant to the State of the

adjacent land for a water-power site, and that this grant from the

Federal Government to the State shall contain a condition that the State

shall never part with the title to the water-power site or the

water-power, but shall lease it only for a term of years not exceeding

fifty, with provisions in the lease by which the rental and the rates

for which the power is furnished to the public shall be readjusted at

periods less than the term of the lease, say every ten years.

The argument is urged against this disposition of power sites that

legislators and State authorities are more subject to corporate

influence and control than would be the central Government. In reply it

is claimed that a readjustment of the terms of leasehold every ten years

would secure to the public and the State just and equitable terms. Then

it is said that the State authorities are better able to understand the

local need and what is a fair adjustment in the particular locality than

would be the authorities at Washington. It has been argued that after

the Federal Government parts with title to a power site it cannot

control the action of the State in fulfilling the conditions of the

deed, to which it is answered that in the grant from the Government

there may be easily inserted a condition specifying the terms upon which

the State may part with the temporary control of the water-power sites,

and, indeed, the water-power, and providing for a forfeiture of the

title to the water-power sites in case the condition is not performed;

and giving to the President, in case of such violation of conditions,

the power to declare forfeiture and to direct proceedings to restore to

the central Government the ownership of the power sites with all the

improvements thereon, and that these conditions may be promptly enforced

and the land and plants forfeited to the general Government by suit of

the United States against the State, which is permissible under the

Constitution (applause). And that by such a provision, _in terrorem_,

the edict of States and of the legislatures in respect to these lands

might be enforced through the general Government.

I do not express an opinion upon the controversy thus made or a

preference as to the two methods of treating water-power sites. I shall

submit the matter to Congress with all the arguments, and urge that one

or the other of the two plans be promptly adopted.

* * * * *

At the risk of wearying my audience I have attempted to state as

succinctly as may be the questions of Conservation as they apply to the

public domain of the Government, the conditions to which they apply, and

the proposed solution of them.

In the outset I alluded to the fact that Conservation had been made to

include a great deal more than what I have discussed here. Of course, as

I have referred only to the public domain of the Federal Government, I

have left untouched the wide field of Conservation with respect to which

a heavy responsibility rests upon the States and individuals as well.

But I think it of the utmost importance that after the public attention

has been roused to the necessity of a change in our general policy to

prevent waste and a selfish appropriation to private and corporate

purposes of what should be controlled for the public benefit, those who

urge Conservation shall feel the necessity of making clear how

Conservation can be practically carried out (applause), and shall

propose specific methods and legal provisions and regulations to remedy

actual adverse conditions (applause). I am bound to say that the time

has come for a halt in general rhapsodies over Conservation, making the

word mean every known good in the world (applause), for, after the

public attention has been roused, such appeals are of doubtful utility

and do not direct the public to the specific course that the people

should take, or have their legislators take, in order to promote the

cause of Conservation. The rousing of emotions on a subject like this,

which has only dim outlines in the minds of the people affected, after a

while ceases to be useful, and the whole movement will, if promoted on

these lines, die for want of practical direction and of demonstration to

the people that practical reforms are intended. (Applause)

I have referred to the course of the last Administration and of the

present one in making withdrawals of Government lands from entry under

homestead and other laws, and of Congress in removing all doubt as to

the validity of these withdrawals as a great step in the direction of

practical Conservation (applause). But this is only one of two necessary

steps to effect what should be our purpose. It has produced a status quo

and prevented waste and irrevocable disposition of the lands until the

method for their proper disposition can be formulated, but it is of the

utmost importance that such withdrawals should not be regarded as the

final step in the course of Conservation, and that the idea should not

be allowed to spread that Conservation is the tying up of the natural

resources of the Government for indefinite withholding from use, and the

remission to remote generations to decide what ought to be done with

these means of promoting present general human comfort and progress

(great applause). For, if so, it is certain to arouse the greatest

opposition to Conservation as a cause, and if it were a correct

expression of the purpose of conservationists it ought to arouse such

opposition. (Applause)

Real Conservation involves wise, non-wasteful use in the present

generation, with every possible means of preservation for succeeding

generations; and though the problem to secure this end may be difficult,

the burden is on the present generation promptly to solve it and not to

run away from it as cowards, lest in the attempt to meet it we may make

some mistakes (applause). As I have said elsewhere, the problem is how

to save and how to utilize, how to conserve and still develop; for no

sane person can contend that it is for the common good that Nature's

blessings should be stored only for unborn generations. (Applause)

I beg of you, therefore, in your deliberations and in your informal

discussions, when men come forward to suggest evils that the promotion

of Conservation is to remedy, that you invite them to point out the

specific evils and the specific remedies; that you invite them to come

down to details in order that their discussions may flow into channels

that shall be useful rather than into periods that shall be eloquent and

entertaining without shedding real light on the subject (prolonged

applause and cheers). The people should be shown exactly what is needed

in order that they may make their representatives in Congress and the

State legislatures do their intelligent bidding. (Great and prolonged

applause)

* * * * *

President BAKER--The Congress is now adjourned to reassemble at 2 oclock

this afternoon.

_SECOND SESSION_

The Congress was called to order by President Baker at 3 oclock p.m.

President BAKER--It gives me a great deal of pleasure to announce that

Governor W. R. Stubbs, of Kansas, has kindly consented to preside at

this session. Ladies and Gentlemen, Governor Stubbs. (Applause)

Governor STUBBS--Mr President, Ladies and Gentlemen: I am very grateful

for your liberal recognition. And I present to you a man who knows much

about the laws pertaining to land in the United States, one better

fitted to speak on this subject than any other, Senator Knute Nelson, of

Minnesota. I take great pleasure in introducing him. (Applause)

Senator NELSON--Mr Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: I could not help

thinking this forenoon as I looked at the magnificent audience how every

delegate and visitor from abroad must conclude that in one respect

Conservation in Minnesota has been a success--Conservation of our

prosperous and growing humanity.

I am here to speak briefly of our public-land system, past and present,

in the hope that we may derive some lessons from the mistakes of the

past and have something to guide us in the future. I shall say little of

Conservation in general. My aim will be to draw attention to what I deem

of importance for the legislative branch of the Government to do in the

future, and I shall do so only in general terms, seeking--on account of

my position as Chairman of the Senate Committee on Public Lands--to

avoid all matters that will lead to controversy.

As those know who have had experience in public affairs, particularly in

legislation, all reforms are matters of compromise. Legislation is

largely experimental and those who are most progressive and advanced in

seeking reforms for the future often find themselves handicapped by

those who would make no change; and the result is oftentimes a

compromise in which the reformers get only half a loaf.

The natural resources of our country should be conserved by the

individual, by the State, and by the Federal Government. For each there

is an appropriate field. The farmer must conserve the resources of his

farm; the State the resources of its lands, its forests and its waters;

and the Federal Government the resources of its mines, its forests, and

its lands with all their appurtenances. When the several forces act in

harmony, beneficial results of a far-reaching and permanent value will

be attained for the preservation and utilization of our resources.

Practical and beneficial Conservation of natural resources on the part

of the Federal Government and the State should include and provide for

due and efficient utilization of the same for the benefit of the masses

of the people. The mere conservation and retention of ownership, the

mere securing of a larger price for the resource, may prove burdensome

rather than a benefit to the public. The ultimate question is not so

much how to hold and conserve as how to properly utilize our resources.

The mere holding, or the mere securing of a higher price seems to me to

be entirely futile (applause). The aim should not be so much to secure a

higher price for the Government as to secure lower price for the

consumer and to prevent monopoly (applause). Hence, in the disposal of a

resource, care should be taken to prevent combination and monopoly in

restraint of trade in respect to the same; and the right, as in the case

of railway rates, to regulate the price to the consumer should be

retained; in other words, care should be taken and provision should be

made that the consumer can obtain the product of the resource at a fair

and reasonable rate. To merely conserve and hold at a high price retards

development and enables those who have already secured a large share of

a resource to monopolize the market and to secure an exorbitant price

for the product of the resource. (Applause) The ultimate object of the

conservation of a resource should be to utilize it for the best

advantage of the consumer. True Conservation means beneficial use--means

utilization.

* * * * *

The close of the Revolutionary War found our country with an empty

treasury and a large public debt, but possessed of a large quantity of

valuable public lands northwest of the Ohio river and elsewhere, ceded

by Great Britain, supplemented by a cession from Virginia and some of

the older States, from which were afterward carved great States, though

the public domain was at that time regarded chiefly as an asset from

which the Government could obtain revenues for its wants and needs.

The first general land law of a public nature for the disposal of our

public lands was passed in 1796. This law, after prescribing a system of

surveying the public lands, substantially the same as has been since

adhered to, provided for the sale of the lands at public auction to the

highest bidder, partly for cash and partly on credit.

By the Act of 1800 the minimum price was fixed at $2 an acre, and land

not sold at public auction could be bought at private sale at that

price.

The Act of 1820 abolished sales on credit and fixed the minimum price at

$1.25 per acre, at which rate it has since remained. Lands offered at

public sale became known as "offered land," and if not sold at public

sale could be obtained at private sale or entry at the minimum price.

The result of this system was that, owing to the great scarcity of money

in the country at that time among the masses of the people, large blocks

of land were purchased by speculators and held by them indefinitely for

an excessive profit, and the masses of the people--the settlers, the

real home builders--had to purchase the land from these speculators

instead of securing it from the Government. The Government got but scant

return for its valuable public land. The chief profit was made by the

middlemen, those speculators who bought it up in large blocks; they

reaped a rich harvest. But in the midst of this system the settlers

pressed on to the frontier. They were without money, but they settled on

the public lands, squatted there without authority of law; and finally

the Government, to help these settlers, to relieve them and give them a

little breathing time, in 1841 passed what was known as the general

Preemption Law. Under this law the head of a family, a widow, or a

single person over twenty-one years of age who was a citizen or had

declared his intention to become a citizen of the United States, could

secure 160 acres of public land by settling upon, improving and

cultivating it, and by paying for and entering the same within from one

to three years after settlement, the time of payment in each case

depending on whether the land was offered, unoffered, or unsurveyed.

This law (the Preemption Act of 1841) was clearly intended to help the

pioneers and the settlers, and it proved of great advantage to them; but

owing to the lax procedure that prevailed (under which a man could go on

a preemption claim, make a few limited and pro forma improvements, and

at the end of six months appear in the land office and prove up and have

his final entry made and ultimately get a patent), the Preemption Law

itself became a great instrument in the hands of speculators and land

grabbers, and in consequence Congress concluded to repeal the law.

The law allowing lands to be secured at private entry was repealed in

1889; the law allowing public sales was repealed in 1891, and the

Preemption Law was also repealed the same year. These laws were repealed

none too soon, because by that time they had got to be the instruments

by which those who were seeking valuable coal lands, timber lands, and

other lands would hire a lot of people to go and make preemption claims,

and then, as soon as they obtained title, secure the title, whereby

thousands and thousands of acres of the most valuable timber and mineral

lands, coal lands, and other lands passed into the hands of speculators

for little more than a dollar and a quarter an acre, and sometimes even

less, for there were various kinds of scrip issued--agricultural college

scrip and other scrip to which I will call attention later--put on the

market and sold. That scrip would be used instead of money in paying for

and entering land; and through it much valuable land passed into the

hands of speculators at a cost of even less than one dollar an acre. You

who have lived here have all observed that the low price at which the

lumbermen secured timber in those early days under the Preemption Law,

by cash entry, and under agricultural and other scrip, did not help much

to get cheaper lumber. The result was to enable owners of large bodies

of pine land to hold them indefinitely for the purpose of securing a

higher price for their stumpage.

In 1874 an Act was passed "To encourage the growth of timber on the

western prairies." The purpose of this Act was laudable and had it

resulted in supplying the prairies with timber the gift of the land

would have been amply compensated for. But in its practical operations

the law proved a failure. Only a comparatively few of the many claims

entered were ever successfully forested, or ever became real timber

land. A large share of them were merely taken and held by speculators

with no real purpose of complying with the law in respect to the

planting, culture, and care of timber. Claimants would secure these

claims, enter them under the timber-culture law, make the first entry,

and then hold them just as long as they could, waiting until some

land-seeker came around, when they would tell him, "I have a timber

claim here, and might relinquish it so you can take it as a homestead;

how much will you give me for my relinquishment?" And for a time under

this law there was a great speculation in the sale of what we call

timber relinquishments. No timber was raised. Speculators had held the

land for four or five, maybe six, years as a timber claim. Then when a

real settler came along, why, for a consideration of one, two, three,

four or five hundred dollars, or whatever the settler was able to pay,

the holder would relinquish his timber claim to the Government so that

the real land-seeker could secure the same under the Homestead Law, or

under the Preemption Law, while that was in force.

In 1862 an Act was passed giving to each State 30,000 acres of land for

every senator and representative in Congress for the purpose of

establishing and maintaining agricultural and mechanical colleges. In

States where there was a sufficient quantity of public lands the State

was required to select the land from the public lands in the State, but

in States where no such lands could be secured land scrip was issued in

place of the land. This resulted in placing an enormous amount of land

scrip on the market, which was sold by the State in many instances in

bulk to speculators at a greatly reduced price, netting the States from

fifty to one hundred cents per acre--perhaps the average did not exceed

seventy-five cents per acre. The scrip could be used in entering land or

in paying for land under the Preemption and Homestead Laws at the rate

of $1.25 an acre. So far as the States to which the scrip was issued

were concerned the grant was a wasteful one. It would have been much

wiser and better for the Government to have appropriated $1.25 per acre

in cash to the States instead of giving them the scrip, and reserving

the lands which could be entered with the scrip for actual settlers

under the Homestead Law. In addition to this college scrip, we have had

from time to time various kinds of other scrip, Chippewa half-breed

scrip, Sioux half-breed scrip, and Supreme Court scrip, and others that

I cannot at this moment recall. Most of this scrip, fortunately, is now

about exhausted; very little of it is still afloat and at large. There

was also what we called "soldiers' additional" scrip of which there was

a great deal; a soldier could take a homestead of 40 or 80 or 120 acres,

and if he had no more in his homestead entry, he could take the residue

and make up 160 acres anywhere on the public lands of the United States,

without residing on the land; and he could dispose of his interest by

power of attorney, by which speculators succeeded in getting that. And

the records of our soldiers' homes will show how land speculators have

been searching among the veterans for this kind of scrip. Why, I got a

letter some years ago from a gentleman in Missouri--I can't recall his

name--reminding me of the fact that I had had a homestead; and he told

me that I was entitled to forty acres more under my right, in addition

to the 120 acres, and that he was willing to buy the land of me. He had

hunted up the records, and found a man by my name, but unfortunately the

homestead and all the rest transpired and existed in Wisconsin.

In 1878 Congress passed the so-called Timber and Stone Act, originally

limited to four western States, but by the Act of 1892 extended to all

the public-land States. Under this law land unfit for cultivation and

chiefly valuable for timber and stone could be secured in tracts of 160

acres for each entry-man at a price of $2.50 per acre. Under the law the

purchaser is prohibited from buying the land on speculation or in the

interest of any one but himself. On its face this law seems fair,

harmless, and just, but in its practical operation it proved the means

of a good deal of fraudulent land speculation. In the first instance,

valuable agricultural land fit for agriculture was entered under the law

on the theory that it was only good for the timber or stone on it.

In the next place--and there was where the great iniquity

occurred--speculators would hire men and women in different parts of the

country to go and enter stone and timber claims, furnishing them money

through outside friends, and then as soon as they had secured title get

a transfer of the land to themselves by paying a bonus of one or two

hundred and in some cases up to five hundred and a thousand dollars.

Why, I remember how, in a city not a thousand miles away from Saint

Paul, one year some twenty-five or thirty school teachers entered stone

and timber claims in the State of Oregon! This law finally proved simply

a source of speculation to the men who were trying to secure large

bodies of timber; and under it a large share of the valuable timber

lands now in private holdings were secured. The law should have been

repealed immediately; but while the Senate passed a bill repealing it

some five or six years ago, the bill failed to pass in the House of

Representatives. Since then the Secretary of the Interior has come to

our relief to some extent. The Stone and Timber Act said that this land

could be sold at not less than $2.50 an acre; and up to 1908 the

Government had always treated that as the price, and never exacted any

more. In 1908 the Interior Department adopted the rule of appraising the

lands for the timber and stone on them and selling them at the appraised

value, and the result of that policy has been to stop speculation in

those kinds of lands. A very limited amount of timber and stone lands

have been entered since for now it does not pay big lumber operators or

land speculators to hire anybody to go and enter these lands because

under this rule they have to pay pretty nearly what the land is worth.

But while this administrative order has given us some relief, I am

clearly of the opinion that the law should be entirely repealed to the

end that we can make suitable provision for the disposal of our stone

and timber land under more appropriate legislation and at a fairer rate,

both to the purchaser and to the Government. (Applause)

In 1862 Congress passed the Homestead Law, with the general provisions

of which most of you are familiar. This law makes a gift of 160 acres to

each settler and home-builder who will occupy, improve, and cultivate

his claim for a period of five years. Of all our public land laws this

has, on the whole, been the most beneficent and productive of the best

results. Under its provisions hundreds of thousands of poor and

industrious men and women have carved out happy homes for themselves and

their children, relieved the pressure of labor in our large cities and

great industrial centers, and rapidly laid the foundation for and built

up great States in the middle and far West. Judged by results, it is

doubtful whether the Government ever received a better return for any of

its lands than it has received for these lands given as a free gift,

under the Homestead Law, to our farmers and settlers. A happy,

prosperous, and industrious rural population will ever prove to be the

sheet-anchor of our industrial, social and political well-being, and

will ever afford a solid foundation for the integrity and perpetuity of

American institutions. The Homestead Law, with all its blessings, had

one defect which has, to some extent, marred its usefulness. I refer to

the privilege of commutation--the privilege of proving up and paying for

the land at $1.25 per acre prior to the five-year period for final free

entry. Originally and for many years after the law was passed, the

privilege of commutation could be exercised after the lapse of six

months from date of entry. This period was extended to fourteen months

some years ago and this fourteen months' period is still the law. The

vice of allowing a homestead entry to be commuted as stated, consists in

opening the door to the speculator, who, in the space of fourteen months

can secure title to the land on scant and temporary improvements and

then move away and hold the land for merely speculative purposes,

leaving the surrounding settlers to enhance the value of his land by

their continuing and permanent improvements. When they have erected

dwellings, barns, school houses, and churches, and have laid out roads

and organized school districts, the petty speculator and commutator, who

has done nothing to build up the country, stands ready to sell his land

at a greatly enhanced price to an actual home-builder and settler. The

commutation privilege should not have been included in the law, and

should be repealed, in my opinion, as soon as practicable. None but

permanent and bona fide settlers should be permitted to secure land

under the Homestead Law.

In 1872 Congress enacted a law for the location, purchase, and entry of

land containing gold, silver, copper, and other precious metals,

commonly called the mining law of the United States, which became a part

of the Revised Statutes. Mining claims are of two classes: (1) lode or

quartz claims, and (2) placer claims. Both are initiated by discovery,

staking out on the ground, and filing notice of location. After these

preliminary steps have been taken, claims can be held indefinitely

without purchase as long as $100 worth of work is done each year on each

claim; and as a matter of fact, only a small proportion of mining

claims, especially placer claims, are ever purchased from the

Government. Placer claims are soon worked out and exhausted, while good

lode claims are workable and profitable for many years. There is a

difference in the size and in the price of lode and placer claims.

Placer claims are larger in area and can be purchased at $2.50 per acre,

while lode claims cost $5 an acre.

In 1873 Congress passed a law for the purchase and entry of coal lands,

which also became a part of the Revised Statutes. Under this law every

person above the age of twenty-one years, who is a citizen or has

declared his intention to become a citizen of the United States, may

purchase and enter 160 acres of coal land; and an association of such

persons may purchase and enter 320 acres, and an association of not less

than four such persons, if they have first expended not less than $5,000

in working and improving a coal mine on the land, may purchase and enter

not to exceed 640 acres in one claim. The price in each case is not less

than $10 per acre where the land is situate more than fifteen miles from

a completed railroad and not less than $20 per acre if the land is

within fifteen miles of a completed railroad. Only one entry can be made

by the same person or association of persons; and no association or any

member of which shall have taken the benefit of the law either as an

individual or as a member of any other association, shall enter or hold

any other lands under the provisions of the law; and no member of any

association which shall have taken the benefit of the law shall enter or

hold any other land under the provisions of the law. A preference right

of entry for the period of one year is given to any person or

association that has opened and improved a coal mine on the public

lands. The provisions of the law as to the acquisition and holding of

more than one claim are clear and stringent, and have been applied and

enforced in the courts in several instances where great corporations

have sought, through dummies and otherwise, to acquire vast holdings of

coal lands. It is conceded, too, that the minimum price fixed by statute

is, in many instances, altogether too low and much below the real value.

In 1907 the Interior Department cured this defect by adopting the policy

of classifying and appraising the coal lands and selling them at the

appraised value, a value in most instances far in excess of the minimum

statutory price. This new policy is continued, and under it something

over 100,000 acres of coal lands have been entered. Further legislation

is urgently needed in respect to the disposal of our coal lands. If the

policy of selling the land is to be continued, not only should the

system of appraisal now in vogue be adhered to, but provision should be

made to protect the people--the consumers--against the monopolies and

combinations in restraint of trade and against unreasonable and

exorbitant prices. Many good men, however, who have given the subject

great consideration, favor a well-guarded system of leasing instead of

sale for coal lands. Their contention is that under a leasing system

more careful and less wasteful methods of mining will be pursued and

that better protection can be thereby secured for the miner, the

consumer, and the Government. I am not prepared to take issue with this

contention. A leasing system is clearly preferable where the surface of

the land is disposed of for agricultural purposes, for under such a

system the conflicting interests of the miner and the farmer can be best

adjusted, regulated, and controlled. Perhaps it would be wise to adopt

both sale and leasing systems, leaving it optional with the Government

to select the mode of disposal in any given case; for there may be cases

where the one method would be preferable to the other.

In 1900 Congress passed an act extending the coal-land laws to Alaska,

but the act proved of no value as only surveyed lands could be purchased

and entered under the general law, and there was no surveyed land in

Alaska, and no provision was made in the act for surveys. By the act of

April 28, 1904, the general coal-land laws were extended to Alaska in a

more effective and rational manner. Under this act any person or

association, qualified to make entry under the coal-land laws of the

United States, who opens and improves a coal mine on the unsurveyed

public lands in Alaska can locate the land on which such mine is found

by staking the same out on the ground, and by filing notice of location

in the recording district and in the land office of the district in

which the land is situate, within one year after staking out the claim.

After these preliminary steps are taken, the locator must cause a survey

and plat of the land to be made by a deputy United States surveyor, and

thereafter, within three years from date of the location notice he must

make application for a patent of the land, prove a compliance with the

law, and pay the price of only $10 per acre for the land. Aside from

these provisions all other provisions of the general coal-land law apply

to coal lands in Alaska. Under this law between eight and nine hundred

coal-land locations have been made, but of these only about thirty-three

cases (perhaps a few more) have passed to final entry at the local land

office. The time for making entry and securing patents on the other

locations has, in most, if not in all instances, lapsed, and they cannot

be relocated owing to the fact that by executive orders of November 12,

and 27 and December 17, 1906, and by a recent executive order of

President Taft, all coal lands in Alaska are withdrawn from location,

sale, and entry. This withdrawal was no doubt made in pursuance of

recent legislation by Congress and for the purpose of giving Congress an

opportunity to enact better coal-land laws for Alaska than those now in

force; and such legislation, to my mind, is clearly and urgently needed,

and I am in hopes that Congress will take steps at its next session to

enact suitable coal-land laws for Alaska in order that the people there

may have an opportunity to utilize the coal that is within their own

boundaries. (Applause)

By the Act of March 3, 1877, amended in 1891, provision was made for the

entry and reclamation by irrigation of desert or arid land in the

Pacific coast and mountain States and Territories. Under the original

act 640 acres could be entered in one claim, but since the act of 1891

was passed only 320 acres can be entered in one claim under this law.

Water for irrigating the land must be secured and the land must be

reclaimed and cultivated by means of such water for the period of four

years after the preliminary entry, and the price of $1.25 per acre must

be paid before patent can be secured for the land. This law has not

proved very effective or beneficial, especially on account of the

difficulty, in many instances, of securing the necessary water supply by

a single entryman. In many instances the conditions of the law have not

been complied with, and as a whole the law may be said to have to some

extent failed of its purpose.

In view of the comprehensive character of the general Reclamation Act of

1902, which makes due provision for securing a water supply and provides

for limited homesteads under a qualified homestead law, the desert law

referred to, could well be repealed. The Federal reclamation system is

more certain and effective than reclamation by individuals in isolated

cases.

Under the so-called Carey Act of 1894, desert and arid lands are granted

to certain States, in limited quantities, for reclamation and

cultivation by means of irrigation, this to be done under the auspices

and direction of the States to which the grants are made. This law has

in some respects proved more effective and of more value than the

general desert law, but it cannot be regarded as equal in value and

efficiency to the general Reclamation Act of 1902, and therefore it

seems to me it is not advisable to make any more grants of this nature

to any of the States.

No effective or systematic effort was made to preserve the forests on

the public domain until March 3, 1891, when an act was passed giving the

President the power to set apart and reserve, from time to time, public

lands for forestry purposes. This was supplemented by the act of June 4,

1897, providing for the administration and care of the land so reserved

and set apart, which lands are now termed National Forests of the United

States. Under this law nearly two hundred million acres of public lands

in various States and Territories, including Alaska, have been withdrawn

and set apart for forestry purposes and are now embraced, most of them,

in our National Forests and their administration and care has been

placed on a sound, workable, and safe basis through the initiation,

prudence, and wisdom of our great forester, Mr Pinchot (great and

prolonged applause), who has laid the foundation and is the father of

our forestry system. This legislation and administrative action came

none too soon. Had there been more delay, our timber lands would, long

before this, have passed into private ownership and there would have

been nothing left for the Government to conserve (applause). No land

legislation in recent times has been productive of such beneficent and

far-reaching blessings and results as our forestry legislation. While

occasionally there has been a little grumbling and friction on the part

of settlers and cattlemen as to the administration of the law in some of

its details, yet it can be fairly said, when it is borne in mind that it

is a new system, that there has been little, if any, valid ground for

serious criticism or complaint. The conduct of a few over-zealous forest

rangers and a few over-strenuous settlers and cattlemen ought not to

militate against the value and usefulness of the forestry system as a

whole and in its entirety. (Applause)

Under the act of March 3, 1891, as amended by the act of January 21,

1895, and May 11, 1898, the Secretary of the Interior is authorized,

under general regulations to be fixed by him, to grant, without exacting

compensation, permits for right-of-way on the public lands for canals

and reservoirs which may be used for furnishing water for domestic,

public, and other beneficial uses, and for the development of power.

Several valuable water-power sites have been secured under these laws as

well as under the homestead and timber and stone laws. To put a stop to

such practice the Interior Department, in the later part of 1908 and in

the early part of 1909, withdrew all power sites from every form of

disposal under our land laws and these sites have remained thus

withdrawn ever since, except during an interval of a few days or perhaps

a few weeks in the spring of 1909; and during that interval no power

sites were secured or disposed of. Most of these power sites are of

considerable value, and they ought not to be disposed of under any of

the existing land laws. Adequate provision should be made by law for the

utilization of these water-power sites to the end that the Government

may receive fair compensation for the same, and to the end that the

public may receive the beneficial use to be derived from the development

of any water-power in connection with such sites, at fair and reasonable

rates (applause). The problem under our dual system of Government, State

and Federal, is not free from embarrassment, as it is the opinion of men

versed in the law that while the general Government may own the power

site, with all the rights of a riparian owner, the water in the streams,

except for purposes of navigation, belongs to the State, and that the

State may allow its citizens to appropriate such water for their

beneficial use and thereby render the power site of no value; for

without a sufficient supply of water the power site will not be worthy

of improvement or development. It seems to me (though perhaps I may err)

that the problem of developing and utilizing water-power in such cases

can be properly solved only by the cooperation of the State and the

Federal Government (applause): the one owning the power site and the

other the water in the stream, it strikes me that cooperation is

essential and furnishes the only practical solution. And some plan

should be devised by which the Federal and State Governments could act

in harmony and in unison in such cases. Of course, when the State owns

both the water and the power site, the problem is of a less complex

character, and is one exclusively for the State to solve except as to

the question of navigation. And I may also add in this connection that

Congress, at its last session, passed a general law to regulate the

construction of dams across navigable waters, by which ample provision

is made for protecting the interest of the general Government in all

such cases.

Most of our remaining public lands, suitable for agricultural purposes,

are within the arid or semi-arid parts of the country. These lands can

be successfully farmed only by means of irrigation or by so-called dry

farming methods. To aid in developing and successfully farming these

lands, the Reclamation Act of 1892 was passed setting apart the proceeds

of the sales of public lands within the arid and semi-arid States for

the construction of dams, reservoirs, canals, and ditches for the

impounding and distribution of water. A considerable number of

irrigation projects have been entered upon under the act. A few of them

have been completed, but the majority of them are still in an incomplete

condition; and there being an insufficiency of funds available for their

speedy completion, Congress, at the last session, in order to expedite

the work on the incomplete projects, provided for a loan of twenty

million dollars, to be immediately available, and to be reimbursable

out of the future income of the reclamation fund (applause). This will

hasten the completion of the projects and will aid the homestead

settlers of whom there are many, to secure a supply of water on their

claims at an early day.

For the purpose of promoting the farming of arid or semi-arid lands by

dry-farming methods or otherwise, where no water supply for irrigation

is or can be found available, Congress, by the Act of February 19, 1909,

provided for enlarged homesteads of 320 acres of non-irrigable lands.

The theory on which such legislation was based was this, that such lands

to be farmed must be summer-fallowed, so that a crop could be raised

only every other year, and therefore a larger quantity of land was

needed, as only one-half of the cultivated land could be cropped each

year.

Investigations by the Geological Survey have shown that considerable

areas of public lands suitable for agricultural purposes are underlain

with more or less valuable beds of coal. Such lands, on account of their

mineral character, are not technically subject to entry under any other

than the coal-land laws of the United States. A considerable number of

homestead settlers had settled upon such lands and had made the

preliminary homestead entries of the same without any previous knowledge

of their mineral character. For the relief of such settlers Congress

passed the Act of March 3, 1909, which provides that such settlers may

enter and receive a patent for the surface of such land, reserving to

the general Government the coal underlying the same to be disposed of

under the coal-land laws of the United States. This was supplemented by

Congress at its last session by the Act of June 22, 1910, which permits

the entry of the surface of coal lands under the Homestead Law, the

Reclamation Law, the Desert Law, and the so-called Carey Law, reserving

to the Government the coal beds underlying such lands, to be disposed of

under the general coal-land laws in existence or to be passed in the

future, and authorizing the exploration of the same.

One of the most important of our late land laws and which will prove to

be the key to future reforms in our land system is the Act of June 25,

1910, passed at the last session of Congress. This act authorizes the

President, in his discretion, to withdraw from settlement, location,

sale, or entry any of the public lands of the United States and reserve

the same for water-power sites, irrigation, classification, or other

public purpose. There was some difference of opinion before the

enactment of this law as to the power of the President to make such

withdrawals in all cases. This act removes all doubt and controversy on

the subject and enables the President to examine, classify, and appraise

the lands and to reserve them for necessary and appropriate legislation

by Congress. Many of our lands and their appurtenances are of such a

character that they ought not to be disposed of under any of our

existing land laws. Good laws are needed for the disposal of our timber

and stone, our water-power sites, and our coal, oil, asphalt, and

phosphate lands. There was considerable opposition to the passage of

this act in both Houses of Congress, and at one time it seemed as though

it would not pass, and it would not have passed but for the active,

continued, and persistent help of President Taft (applause). He labored

for its passage, in season and out of season, to my certain knowledge,

and but for his help, I can say with all truthfulness that that

important law would never have passed (applause). And since its passage

the President has availed himself of it by making new withdrawals, and

rewithdrawing many lands which had been withdrawn before but in respect

to which some question was raised as to the validity of the withdrawal.

I have not called attention to the various grants of land that have been

made, first for wagon roads and canals, and afterward for railroads, nor

to the large grants of land that have been made to the several States

for educational and other purposes, for the reason that such grants are

not likely to be repeated in the future. Provision has already been

made, with ample land grants for the admission into the Union of our two

remaining Territories, Arizona and New Mexico; and it is not probable

that any grants of public lands, except for right-of-way, will be made

to any railroad in the future, especially the railroad grants, may seem

to have been prodigal and too lavish; but to the legislators of those

early days, who were anxious for the speedy settlement and development

of our great West, they seemed justified and called for. And it is

evident that, in consequence of these grants, the country was more

speedily settled and the settlers afforded transportation facilities at

a much earlier period than otherwise would have been done. The grants

made to the States, especially for educational purposes, have from every

point of view been fully justified, and have been, and will continue to

be, of great help in maintaining ample and liberal educational

facilities in the several States.

In conclusion: I have given you this brief summary and outline of our

public land laws, past and present, obsolete and subsisting, in order

that from a consideration of the same we may avoid the mistakes of the

past, and gather inspiration and instruction for our future guidance. In

view of the diminishing supply and rapidly increasing demand it behooves

us to husband, with discrimination and care, all our natural resources,

beginning as promptly as possible, and this work must be done by

legislation, by administration, and by individual effort. (Applause)

* * * * *

Chairman STUBBS--If there are any pessimistic citizens in the United

States they should hear the Senior Senator's story of the lavish

management of public affairs in the past, and the splendid change made

under that great leader--the greatest man on earth today--Theodore

Roosevelt (applause and cheers) and Gifford Pinchot (renewed applause).

I now take great pleasure in presenting to you a typical southern

gentleman, Governor Noel, of Mississippi (applause).

* * * * *

Governor NOEL--Mr Chairman, Brother Governors, Delegates, Ladies and

Gentlemen: Some months ago I received an invitation to attend this

Congress, which I promptly accepted; also an invitation to deliver an

address, which I immediately declined. Since entering the hall this

afternoon I have been informed of my selection for the first address on

my State--each Governor speaking for his State in succession--and my

State's views on questions pertaining to our natural resources.

Of course the greatest natural resource of every city and county, as of

State and Nation, is the productive energies of its people. Their

development, through proper training of mind and heart, should be the

chief aim of all people and of the Government. In those resources,

however, our interests are the same as those of all other parts of the

country, and they open too broad a field for me to enter.

When we take up the question of the natural resources pertaining to our

domain, Mississippi occupies a widely different attitude from that of

some States in the Northwest whose Governors are here to speak for them.

We are an agricultural people. Not a city in Mississippi will much, if

at all, exceed 30,000 inhabitants; more of its population and its

wealth, proportionately, than of any other State in the Union are

engaged in agriculture. We have no mines, no minerals except some clays

and stone, no oil, no gas, no coal. We acquired agricultural lands, and

our natural resources are from those lands as agricultural soil and

standing timber.

Before the question of Conservation was understood, or at least before

it had become of any force in State or Nation, both Mississippi and the

Federal Government had parted with their lands and with their forests.

Much to our regret now, it is a question of the past, and has to be

handled by individuals and by corporations, to whom our lands and timber

chiefly, almost entirely, belong. We are interested; we try to regulate

our resources in some measure, within the powers of the State

Government; but our interest is largely confined to our public lands. We

have no coal or metals, our streams are sluggish, and there are few

water-power sites. We have little beyond the surface values of the

timber and the soil. We are interested in coal because it is necessary

for our industries; we are interested in oil because we need it; we are

interested in all the elements of the soil spoken of this morning,

phosphorus and all the rest. We are greatly interested in all these

things notwithstanding the land which contains them happens to be in

other States. We have not lost interest in them on that account; and,

speaking for our State--which has stood for State rights as it

understood them, and stands for State rights still--our only way of

securing these rights we believe to be through the Federal Government

(applause); our only voice must be through Congress and the President,

and we do not care to surrender that to which the Government is now

properly entitled. If the choice goes to the State we know how it will

go, for past experience has taught that lesson well--local interests

will control, and the general good will be subordinated to personal

pride and local considerations. We have learned much and suffered much

in that line. The Government gave to us, as to others, the sixteenth

section of land in every township, one-thirty-sixth of the whole State.

We put it in the power of a majority of the householders and patrons of

schools in each township to vest the school lands by lease, thinking

that local interests, being circumscribed and vitally concerned in

education, would at least prevent spoliation of this magnificent

donation to the school children; but we were mistaken. In a great many

instances a few who were shrewd and sharp and designing used a law by

which a lease could be made from one year to ninety-nine years, and

until that law was repealed leased the lands for the largest possible

term.

We know that the smaller the area the greater the influence of

personages, and of local and private considerations. Therefore, as we

look on this question of the Conservation of our natural resources, it

is a question of rights, and how those rights can best be maintained and

perpetuated; the means, whether through State or Federal Government, is

but a minor consideration; and believing that our rights can best be

preserved and utilized, now and for all time to come, without waste and

without destruction, both for the present and in the future, we think it

can best be done under Federal supervision (applause). The only rights

we have in coal and oil and metals must be exercised through the Federal

Government.

We may not fully understand the water-power problem. It has been said to

be only a local issue anyway. We do not understand it that way. The

river which rolls by this city smiling, smooth, and clear, after it is

joined to the Missouri is muddy, deep, and uncertain; not only all of

your waters but all of the waters east of the Rocky Mountains roll past

our western boundary. While at some seasons the water is low, at others

it is over fifty feet higher, and more than one-sixth in value of the

land in our State is subject to overflow. Your waters, which through

proper forestation and proper handling by dams and other means would

give us a more equable flow throughout the year, come down upon us at a

time when we do not need them, and in a degree greatly in excess of any

possible need at any time, and we have to bear the sins of deforestation

and all of the other evils that come from the wholesale spoliation and

destruction of your forest lands (applause). We are vitally interested

in that question. We believe in forest reservations; we are sorry we

cannot furnish the basis for it in our own State, but so far as the

Government lands we have can be availed of for that purpose, we would be

more than glad to see the Government take hold of the matter and set our

people an example of how forests should be handled and preserved for the

present and for the future.

When it comes to water-power, to me, at least, and to many of us, the

question of conflict between State and Federal Governments, about which

so much has been said--especially with a view of eliminating the Federal

Government--we hardly understand that view of it. We trace our title

through the Federal Government (applause). As a lawyer of more than

thirty years' practice, whenever I have been given a question for

investigation pertaining to the title of land, the first thing I have

done was to examine the tract-books to see whether the Federal

Government had ever parted legally with its title. If it had not, the

question was ended; if it had, then we could proceed to deraign to those

properly entitled to it. So when the Federal Government owned the lands

and was the source of title, we do not understand how, even though the

lands may be within the State, its right as a land-owner is less on a

river bank than it is in the interior, or when the Federal Government,

as the owner of the lands, should not exercise riparian rights which any

other owner tracing title through it might exercise.

Now, we would like cooperation of the States, but we would like the

Federal Government to retain where it still possesses them those rights

of which the people could not be robbed through control of State

legislatures or local authorities (applause). You may say, What interest

have we, who are not a manufacturing people, in the mines and the

water-powers of other States? Why, we are all in a common country. State

lines may be changed; they are accidental; they are artificial; but the

national boundary is fixed. When we look for coal or iron, or commercial

or industrial products which we do not manufacture, we must look,

primarily, within the bounds of the United States. It is within the

power of the Government and beyond ours practically, through tariff

legislation, to exclude the minerals from outside. We have but one open

field, we have but one certain route to any natural or manufactured

product, and that is within the boundaries of the Union itself; and we

do not want, through monopolization of either coal or oil or

water-powers, to be hampered in the protection of the country as a whole

so that as consumers we shall have to bear the brunt of evils from which

the National Government, through the little influence we might have with

it, might protect us, and of which our State government, in the past at

least, has been very neglectful. Hence we stand for State rights and

Federal control in cooperation (applause). But if it is within the power

of the Federal Government, through leasing or otherwise, to retain

control of its mineral and coal lands and its water-power sites, to put

them beyond the possibility of handling by a State and its legislature,

to regulate corporations' rights so as to prevent monopolization, and at

the same time to prevent the Nation as a whole from being deprived of

any productive agency in our midst, we want the benefit of it.

(Applause)

Our patriotism on this score may be of that questionable type described

by Artemus Ward, who said that during the Civil War, when the stress was

great, he listened to a magnificent speech from an orator on the subject

of enlistment, and became so enthused that when the call for volunteers

came he, with others, went up to sign the roll; but when he observed

that the orator had not signed nor was likely to sign, because his

province was simply that of speaking while other's would be fighting,

his own ardor was somewhat cooled, and when he reflected that the

orator's eloquence had carried his hearers where he would not go

himself, it became cooler and cooler. Still, his patriotism did not

entirely vanish, for when his time came to sign the roll for enlistment,

he signed it with the name of his mother-in-law and offered her as a

sacrifice to his country (laughter). Yet we are not exactly in that

category, though we may seem to view the situation from a local

standpoint. But knowing of our own condition, knowing of the rights

which the Federal Government conferred upon the school children of our

State--the sixteenth section and other lands of which you heard in

Senator Nelson's address today,--and remembering how in a great many

instances, through local influences, legislative or otherwise, the

intended beneficiaries were largely deprived of the benefactions

intended for them we really think, What has gone is gone, except as a

lesson to us; and so far as we are concerned, we shall stand for the

right of the people as a whole for the enjoyment of its great resources

of coal, of oil, of water-power and other natural wealth, and we want to

be protected in such a way that no State or local influence shall be

able to take it from us forever (applause). That is our position on this

question.

In regard to the water-power question. A while ago I spoke of the

Mississippi rolling by; we have never been jealous of the Federal

Government's dealings with that river, not a bit (laughter). We are not

now. So far as we are concerned, we would be delighted if the Federal

Government would acquire the riparian rights, with all the

_liabilities_, from one end of the State to the other (laughter). The

county in which I live, that part of it in the Delta, as well as six or

seven other counties, have had to keep up, without Federal aid until

this year--and then only incidentally for the protection of navigation

against some caving banks--for five years more than 200 miles of levee,

and it has required an acreage tax of from three to five cents, an _ad

valorem_ tariff of about ten mills, and a cotton tax besides; and while

some of this is among the finest agricultural land in the world, it is

almost wrecked by the taxes on it. Missouri has fared better. Her levees

are not as extensive as ours; her people put them in good condition, and

the general government afterward took charge of them in the interest of

navigation; and if the Government will relieve us of the whole burden

from the waters which you send down upon us from the North and from east

of the Rocky Mountains, and will take the riparian rights from end to

end and preserve and use them for the benefit of the whole Nation, all

the people of our State will greatly rejoice (applause), and not a voice

will be raised on the question of State rights as to any use for the

people as a whole to which the Government may put those lands.

So, as we come to voice our wishes, our interests, our desires, they are

for cooperation of State and Federal Government, but of absolutely no

relinquishment on the part of the Federal Government either of its

water-power sites, its coal lands, its phosphate lands, or of any of

those other natural resources to which the people of the whole country

are looking for future development and prosperity (applause). We are

_in_ the country, we are a part of it; not merely a part of the

Government of the States but a part of the Government of the whole Union

(applause), and all that concerns the Union, or any part of it or any of

its people, affects us to a greater or less degree. And speaking for our

share and our part in the national destiny which invitingly presents

itself before us, we say that we stand for Conservation of natural

resources by all governmental agencies, State and Federal, which will

not only develop now but protect in the future for the proper use and

progressive benefit of the people of the whole country to whom they now

belong and from whom they should never depart. (Applause)

* * * * *

Chairman STUBBS--Ladies and Gentlemen: I am very glad indeed to

introduce to you as the speaker to follow our distinguished friend from

Mississippi, the only other democratic Governor in the Congress,

Governor Norris, of Montana. (Applause)

You will see whether the views of the southern democrat and the northern

democrat are the same after the two get through speaking. (Laughter)

* * * * *

Governor NORRIS--Mr Chairman, and Ladies and Gentlemen: A feeling has

prevailed in the West, or did a few days ago, to the effect that no

enlarged opportunities were going to be given to express ideas here

which were contrary to those held by the program committee of this

Congress (laughter). However, I am pleased to note that such is not to

be the case, and whether the conference of the Northwestern Governors at

Salt Lake City, recently held, has had anything to do with it or not I

don't know. Anyhow, we are thankful for small favors. If it had been

the intention and had been carried out, it would have been a mistake,

for the reason that the Conservation movement is national in scope, and

is a part of no section and no State alone. The Conservation

movement--in other words, the public conscience--received its awakening

some two years ago, and Theodore Roosevelt did the awakening (applause);

and I am pleased to note that the sentiment created by President

Roosevelt has ripened into practical action by President Taft (renewed

applause). I resent the insinuation that Montana and the Northwest, and

in fact the entire West, is opposed to Conservation; in fact, I insist

that the Northwest is the leader of the Conservation movement

(applause), and that the first practical act in Conservation was taken

by a western State, Montana (applause). I am proud of the fact that the

first Conservation commission, either State or National, was appointed

by me, in the State of Montana (applause). I am further proud of the

fact that the first Conservation law, comprehensive in extent, was,

under my recommendation, passed by the Legislature of Montana; and in

that respect we have led the National Government in the Conservation

movement (applause). Therefore, just for a moment, and not desiring to

be personal, permit me to state what we have done. And in every respect

we have kept step with the National Government and in the majority of

cases we have led the National Government, and you can come to us for a

lesson as to how to properly conserve the natural resources of the

country (applause).

The Legislature which assembled in Montana in 1900 enacted a law

conserving the resources possessed by us in our public lands, so

generously given us by the Government on our admission. That measure

provided for the disposition of the land to actual cultivators of the

soil, in 160-acre tracts where irrigated, in 320-acre tracts where it is

suitable for dry farming, and in 640-acre tracts where it was only

suitable for the raising of hay or for grazing purposes--that is, in the

high altitudes, in the mountains. So in that respect we have gone hand

in hand with the Government in the passage of the 320-acre homestead

act, applicable to entries where irrigation could not be had. In that

same law, passed in 1909, some eighteen months ago, Montana forever

reserved from sale, and in every patent on every acre of its lands that

might thereafter be issued retained the coal rights, and provided for

the leasing of those rights from time to time and for periods not

exceeding five years (applause). So today, when President Taft says he

hopes Congress will do the same with the Government coal lands, we say,

Mr President, we are with you and hope Congress will do this (applause),

and if you wish an illustration proving that the title to coal lands can

be retained and the coal rights leased from time to time, providing for

the right to mine the coal at not less than 12-1/2 cents per ton, come

to Montana and we will show you half a dozen coal leases with such

provision which have been in force for the last sixteen months

(applause). Have we lagged behind the National Government? Oh, no! In

fact, we have led the National Government in the matter of Conservation.

(Applause)

And as to the metalliferous ores of the mines--the same laws are

applicable to State lands that are applicable to Government lands. As to

the forests: in the making of those laws, I corresponded, and our

commission corresponded, and we made those laws with the consent of, and

they were afterward approved by, Mr Gifford Pinchot (applause). There is

but one provision which we made then differing from those of the

Government. We provided in that law, passed eighteen months ago, that

lands more suitable for agriculture than for reforestation should be

used for agricultural purposes and not for reforestation purposes.

President Taft described this morning how the Government had in the last

few months been doing the same thing, so it seems that, after awhile,

the Government will catch up to Montana in that respect (laughter and

applause).

Now, then, on the water-power question: That same commission is now

operating, and it is going to prepare suggestions for submission to the

next Montana Legislature with reference to adequate provisions for

conserving the waters of the State of Montana, and I have no doubt that

the recommendations of the commission will, at the next session, be

adopted. We would have done that two years ago except we cannot do all

these things at once; our session only lasted sixty days, while Congress

is in session all the time (laughter and applause). If we had even six

months instead of two years for it, we would have had those water

resources conserved long ago (laughter). Is Montana entitled to take a

place in the kindergarten class in the school of Conservation? And are

we who have conserved our resources to be distrusted as Governor Noel

says you must distrust the Legislature and the people of the State of

Mississippi? (Applause) I thank my God that I can trust the people of

Montana to protect their own! (Applause) And let me tell you one thing:

the whole can never be greater than the sum total of its parts, and the

Federal Government can never adequately preserve its resources until you

get at least a majority of the people in a majority of the States to so

agree, because it takes a majority for the Federal Congress or the

Federal Government to act (applause). You start at the wrong end. You

have got to start with the people of the State and build up.

Now, are we capable of passing legislation to preserve our water

resources? I think we are; and let me tell you some of our plans. In the

first place, the water and the land, during the territorial days of

each State, belonged to the Federal Government. When the State was

admitted, the lands were reserved by the federal Government, but the

waters flowing in the streams of the State passed into the control of

the State. You heard Senator Nelson, an able lawyer, refer this

afternoon to the fact that that was the law. Now, they tell us that you

cannot trust the States, you must trust the Federal Government; and yet

I listened for nearly an hour to one of the ablest presentations I ever

heard of how the Federal Government for a hundred years wasted its

resources with all the prodigality of a drunken sailor (applause). Trust

the Federal Government! Why, the Federal Government has been the

greatest sinner in that respect. I am glad the Federal Government has

awakened and is going to preserve its resources, but Montana, at least,

woke up a little before (applause). In this matter of the water-power:

The most valuable use that water can be put to, or, in other words, the

most valuable function that water can perform, is not the development of

electrical power; in the semi-arid States it is the applying of that

water to irrigation and the reclamation of the arid lands of the West

(applause). So bear that in mind.

In the State of Montana--and what is true in that State is true largely

in every other State in the West--not one-third of the arable lands that

can be irrigated have as yet been reclaimed; less than 2,000,000 acres

have been reclaimed in Montana, while there are 6,000,000, in fact there

are 10,000,000 acres that can be reclaimed. In other words, there are

from six to ten million acres yet to be reclaimed by use of the water

that flows in the streams of the State, and that is largely Government

land. So that when you talk about conserving the water for water-power

purposes, we say conserve it for reclamation purposes (applause); for

the reclamation of Government land, too (applause), that may make homes

for settlers who will come in and take it under the Homestead Act. There

is the reason why we say that the Federal Government must not by its

superior power step in and insist upon using the waters of the streams

of the West for power purposes, unless when it so does it makes

provision that the rights for irrigation purposes shall forever remain

inviolate; otherwise, what does it amount to, the building of a dam

across the stream? When the Government conveys the right to build a dam

across a stream, it means that the amount of water flowing over that dam

will determine the amount of power that may be developed; hence, when

that dam is built the Government, if it conveys anything of value, must

convey the right to the use of that water, and the right to the use of

that water flowing over that dam must accrue as of that date, and

forever thereafter the franchise-holder will have the right to demand as

a concession from the Federal Government that the same amount of water,

all the natural flow of that stream, must go over that dam forever. You

thereby absolutely prevent the diversion of any water on that stream

above that point for irrigation purposes. The use of water for

irrigation purposes does decrease the amount flowing in the stream. That

is the reason we object to the Federal Government coming in and taking

charge of our water-power and giving it out--we do not care so much

about the little income that may be received: that is the reason we are

insisting upon the rights of the State.

Now, remember this: In the first instance, there is no contention but

what the regulation of water for irrigating purposes is absolutely

vested in the State, and that the Federal Government cannot acquire that

right; hence a number of irrigators have already appropriated a part of

the flow of the stream. The Federal Government grants the right of

franchise for the building of a dam. Suppose we assume, for the sake of

argument, that it can grant the right to the remaining flow of a stream;

it not only thereby forever thereafter prohibits the use of that stream

above that point for further reclamation purposes, but the rights of

every irrigator, either before or after appropriation is made, comes in

conflict, or may come in conflict, with the Federal franchise-holder? In

other words, you transfer from the State courts and from the State forum

the right of every irrigator to use the waters of a stream to the seat

of power of the Federal Government at Washington. In other words, you

practically stop irrigation in the arid West when you insist upon having

that power (applause). Is that Conservation? True Conservation demands

that every acre of land shall be used for its highest purpose and be

made to serve its highest productive function (applause), whether in a

forest reserve or out of it. Therefore, in order to serve its highest

productive function in the West, water must be applied to the land.

Now, take the 6,000,000 acres of land that may be reclaimed in Montana.

If you do not insist upon the Federal Government taking charge of the

water-power and preventing its further reclamation, it means 6,000,000

acres of land reclaimed. It is fair to say that each year those

reclaimed lands will produce a total of $25--yea, and if I did not want

to be ultra-conservative, I would say $50--per acre; and at $25 per

acre, you have an annual income from those 6,000,000 acres of land of

$150,000,000. Isn't that worth thinking about? Isn't that a resource

worth conserving? Why, the 6,000,000 horse-power that might be developed

in Montana is not worth one tithe of that. You say, Give to the Federal

Government the right to the water-powers of the State and forever

prevent the further reclamation of our land? Why, you are asking of us

the most priceless gift that we have to convey--far more priceless than

our mines yielding $50,000,000 yearly, possibly the richest in the

world--because you ask us to surrender not $50,000,000 a year but the

opportunity to make $150,000,000 a year. Has the Federal Government this

right? We insist, as a matter of law, that the Federal Government has no

authority to grant any right to the use of water on any power site that

it may have. If the power site is situated along a stream, the title to

the power site rests in the Federal Government and it can grant the

right to erect a dam on that site, but the water that flows down the

stream by that power site belongs to the State, and unless the State

gives you the right to appropriate and take water you will develop no

power by a dam-site! (Applause)

Now, is the State ready to surrender any rights that it may have in the

waters of the stream to the Federal Government? The State of Montana is

not ready to so do, for the reasons I have given. The State of Montana

will insist upon every right it has. Let the Federal Government have

that which of right or in law belongs to it, but let the State keep that

which of right or in law belongs to it (applause). So sure am I that the

State has the right to use of its water that I think the next

Legislature of Montana will pass a law to regulate the use of water,

making its use for power forever subordinate to its use for irrigation

purposes, and then say to the Federal Government, You own your power

site, but you do not own the water; we own the water, but we do not own

the power site. Your site is worth nothing to you because it is valuable

only for power in connection with the use of water. We cannot develop

power on that site, but we can go a little farther down the stream and

divert that water for the irrigation of land, and it is valuable to us.

Now, that is what we mean by the rights of the State in and to the

waters of the State. You cannot trust the State? Why not? If you cannot

trust the people of Montana to conserve its resources, if you cannot

trust the State of Wyoming to conserve its resources, can we trust the

State of Maine, or the State of Florida to conserve them for us? What

reasons have we to assume that the people of the State of Massachusetts

or the State of Louisiana are more patriotic in that respect than are

our own people?

The creation of the forest reserves was the greatest act ever performed

in recent years. We would not have that act repealed. We have a double

purpose in supporting the forest conservation policies. You think of it

as valuable for the timber that it will grow. That timber is worth just

as much, and will shelter just as many people, in Montana as it will in

the Mississippi valley, but we desire it for a further purpose. The

forests of these mountains are Nature's reservoirs, builded there by an

Omnipotent Creator, and can better conserve the waters that fall in the

form of rain and snow than these artificial reservoirs that men may

build (applause). We want those waters. The water that comes from our

mountains and is conserved under those forests is the very life-blood of

the State of Montana. Would you take the water away and stop the

reclamation of the arid West? I know you would not; yet you would do so

did you not at the same time that you were saving the timber make a

provision that the rights to water for power purposes should forever be

subject to the rights for irrigation purposes.

Bear this in mind, also. The doctrine of riparian rights does not

prevail in the arid West; therefore the owning of the soil on each side

of the stream does not convey the right to have the water flow down that

stream undiminished in quantity or quality. In other words, the first

appropriator is the first in right. I think there has been a

misunderstanding as to the position of the West in this respect, as to

why we are insisting upon the rights of the State. We insist upon the

right of the State to control the waters of the State, not the

water-power particularly. There is a decided difference between the

waters and the water-power. The waters will irrigate land, the

water-power will develop electricity. Such is the position the West

takes. Will you not help us in that, and so help develop the land and

make it productive? Do you know it is your own salvation to do so? Ye

people of the populous East, where is the produce to come from to feed

the ever-increasing millions, unless it be from the reclamation of the

arid lands of the West? The time will soon be here, and it is not over

four years removed, when we will cease to be a wheat-exporting nation,

and in only a few years it must come that the children will cry for

bread, and the land must be made to produce it. Therefore we must

husband our resources and conserve our water for use for the purpose

which will permit the growing of something that will feed human beings;

and pine trees do not do it (applause). You of the Mississippi valley

who for years have wept great crocodile tears that your lands have been

cleared, suppose those lands had not been cleared, whence would come the

produce to feed the millions of today? So bear these things in mind that

when you come to conclusions you will take all these questions into

consideration. And I want to say to you that in the future, as in the

past, Montana will not lag in the Conservation movement, but will

continue to lead the Federal Government (applause).

* * * * *

A DELEGATE--Mr Chairman, are the propositions advanced by the Governors

to be discussed? I see no reference in the program to such discussion,

and ask for information.

Chairman STUBBS--The understanding of the Chair is that this afternoon

was turned over to the Governors. The intention is to give them an

opportunity to relieve their minds this afternoon (applause) and get the

way clear for the greatest man you will hear talk in thirty

years--Theodore Roosevelt (applause). We are clearing out the brush and

getting ready for the real thing that you will have tomorrow. (Laughter

and applause)

You can readily see that they have too much water in the South and not

quite enough water in the Northwest, judging by the views of the last

two speakers.

I now have the pleasure of introducing one of the greatest Governors in

the United States, and of one of the greatest States in the Union,

Governor Deneen, of Illinois (applause).

* * * * *

Governor DENEEN--Fellow Delegates, and Ladies and Gentlemen: The

Governors here have been somewhat confused regarding this program. I was

invited by my good friend Governor Eberhart, of this State, to prepare a

speech. I have it concealed about my person like a deadly weapon, and I

have been wondering whether I dare read it; for if I do, those who

follow me will, I fear, have no audience to address, while if I do not

follow the text already given to the printer there will be the

traditional print-shop "devil" to pay; but I have concluded to talk

rather than read, and I hope that my good friends the reporters will

publish what I should have said rather than what I shall say. I will

follow the example of a very distinguished statesman in our State, who

on a great occasion handed his speech to the reporters and said, "Now,

having given my speech to the reporters, I shall proceed to ramble;" and

so he did. (Laughter)

It is a pleasure to follow the two distinguished gentlemen who have

preceded me, the Governor of Mississippi and the Governor of Montana. It

is a pleasure to note how the conditions have reversed the attitude of

their States regarding State rights (laughter and applause). I am

interested in both States. A year or more ago I purchased a farm in

Montana where the three rivers join to form the Missouri river, and I

discovered after the spring freshets that I now have a farm scattered

all the way from Montana to Mississippi (laughter). I am interested in

all the States because of that, because I now own property in all. But I

cannot quite agree with my distinguished predecessor about the

Legislature--we, too, have a legislature (laughter), and whatever value

it may have had at one time it is not considered at par at present.

(Laughter and applause)

We have a water-power proposition, too, strange to say, even in the

flat, level, horizontal State of Illinois. Some time ago when the

Government was considering the matter of the Lakes-to-Gulf Waterway, our

State supplemented the investigation of the Government in considering

the by-products of that great channel which was to be built (and I hope

will be built), and we proceeded on the theory announced by the

President this morning; instead of going from agitation to legislation,

we considered it better to go on this theory: investigation, then

agitation, and later legislation. So our State appointed a very

distinguished commission to investigate some of the by-products that

would accrue to Illinois by reason of the Lakes-to-Gulf deep waterway.

We soon found we had several questions. First, the matter of

reclamation. We have the problem they have in Mississippi, of too much

water for too much time out of the year; an even 5,000 square miles of

our State is under water too much of the time--an area larger than the

State of Connecticut or the island of Porto Rico. We worked out a plan

by which, as an incident to the great waterway, we expect to reclaim

land which has been estimated to be of the value of $150,000,000 to the

State.

Then we found that in part of that waterway (in 62-1/2 miles of it from

Lockport to Utica) there is a fall of 106 feet, and that water-power can

be created to the amount of about 130,000 horsepower, worth about

$2,500,000 or $2,750,000 a year to begin with, and our engineers

estimated that by availing ourselves of that power we would be able to

contribute to the Government the entire expense of the waterway between

Lockport and Utica, and could afford to expend $20,000,000 in doing so

by reason of the by-product that would come to us; and that we would be

able, if the Legislature did as it should do, and the Governor did as he

should do, and the commission to be appointed would do as it should

do--to repay that vast expense in fourteen years as a minimum period,

and that in fact we could loan our credit and have the water-power pay

for the bonds as they matured. The question was submitted to the people,

and after an exhaustive discussion they approved the plan by the largest

majority ever registered on any issue in Illinois or in any State in the

Union, a majority of nearly 500,000 (I believe it was 497,345 to be

exact). Then we presented it to our Legislature. Now, this is the point.

When we presented it to our Legislature, what do you think has happened?

Why, nothing happened. (Sensation) We have talked, and talked, and

talked, but we haven't acted. We have had several sessions, regular and

irregular (laughter), on this subject, general and special, but we have

failed to act. After the failure of the regular session to act, on

December 14 last I called an extra session to determine the State's part

in this water-power and waterway subject. It adjourned on March 2

following (I want you to keep these dates in mind because they are

significant); the Legislature was in a deadlock--I am not blaming the

republicans for this, although Illinois is a republican State, and I am

not blaming the democrats; the fact is that a band of republicans and a

band of democrats joined to repudiate the pledges of both parties, and

they did it, effectually did it. They adjourned on March 2; on April 29

following (this year) a little corporation with a huge name was formed

in our State--the Illinois Valley Gas, Light & Electric Power Company,

I believe is the name--you are nearly compelled to take a vacation to

pronounce the name all at once--with a capital stock of only $1000; a

huge name for small capital. Then, on May 12 following--thirteen days

later--the organizers of the corporation met, and decided they had made

a mistake in capitalizing at $1000; so they made the capital accord with

the dignity and length of the name and increased it from $1000 to

$6,250,000. Since that time they have acquired fifty-year franchises in

the following cities: Joliet, Morris, Seneca, Ottawa, Wilmington,

Streator, Dwight, Odell, Gardner, Pontiac, Plainview, Yorkville, Coal

City, and Bridgewood. Now that has been doing a good deal of work in a

warm, humid atmosphere, such as we have in the summer time in Illinois

(laughter). They have not only done that, but they have also acquired

the other corporations that have had to do with the developing of

water-power in Illinois; and not only that, but they have reached out

and acquired certain riparian rights necessary to develop fully the

power at Marseilles. Now, what will happen? Our sanitary district of

Chicago has already expended $53,000,000 on this channel, and will

expend $20,000,000 more in its full development, and our State will

spend $20,000,000 on its part. In other words, Illinois will contribute

$100,000,000 to this Lakes-to-Gulf Deep Waterway, and a corporation

which has not expended one dollar to create this power comes along and

puts a toll-gate across it and collects the toll. Bear in mind that none

of this power is created by the surface or drainage water of the State;

all of it is created by diverting the waters of Lake Michigan to the

Illinois and the Mississippi. What would be thought, for instance, if

our State should expend $100,000,000 in building a road from Chicago to

Saint Louis and then some one who had not expended a dollar would throw

a toll-gate across it and collect a toll of every person and vehicle

that passed, and then when he tried to buy our own road back, charge us

$100,000,000 for it? That would be going some, even in these days of

"frenzied finance," wouldn't it? Yet that is exactly what they are doing

with the water-power situation in our State. For several reasons

(fancied or otherwise; it doesn't take much of a reason to occasion

debate) there is a strong effort being made to prevent the State from

acting, and our State is in the situation (and Chicago will be in the

same situation soon) where we will be compelled, in order to acquire the

riparian rights, to condemn them at their market value, and you can see,

from the array of towns I read you, that the market value is steadily

increasing (I collected their names about two weeks ago, and had not

time this morning to wire inquiring whether it was up to date, but give

you the list as an indication).

The point I want to make is that our State is a good deal like other

States: we are neither abnormally good nor abnormally bad--just an

average. Sometimes we are attending to things in such a way that we

would prefer to have no metropolitan newspapers to circulate and mislead

us; at other times we do things in a grand style in that great State,

and we are then very glad that we have such means of disseminating

knowledge about what is being done.

In regard to the Conservation movement: I sympathize very strongly with

my good friends here from the West. It has been a delightful pleasure to

meet them on a number of occasions, on the waterway trip down the

Mississippi from Saint Louis to Memphis, then at New Orleans, and again

at Washington, where we were all together at the Conservation Conference

in Washington called by Theodore Roosevelt. I believe that the

Government should not interfere to prevent the full development of the

States. A long time ago it was said that he was a benefactor who made

two blades of grass grow where only one had grown before, and the man

who can put two acres in cultivation where only one was cultivated

before is certainly a friend of mankind. So I think we want all the

acres put in cultivation by irrigation or dry farming. But the general

Government owns certain things: it owns coal lands, oil lands, gas

lands, phosphate lands, and forest lands. We heard the President say

this morning that the Government owns about a third of the forests that

we must have in the north in order to allow the Mississippi to have

enough water. The Government owns about a third of the coal, and if I

recall correctly, about a third of the phosphate lands, which will

become more and more necessary as we develop our agricultural resources.

Now the Federal Government should not permit itself to be put in a

position where these great natural resources could be wasted (great

applause); it ought to be in a position to develop the States by

irrigation, and in all possible ways, but it should not permit itself to

be put in the position where a Legislature of a State would take from it

power to control some of the very necessities of advanced civilization

(applause). They can have a crop of corn every year, they can turn on

and off water-power every year, and the rains will come again; if by

lack of attention the forests are burned or removed, they can be grown

again; but the great Creator provided there should be just one crop of

coal for all time, and provided, so far as we know now, that there would

be just a certain amount of phosphate lands, and they are for all time

and all men. These crops are not growing in Montana just now, they are

not growing in other States; and because they were meant for us all,

this great continental Republic ought to be able to conserve them so

they shall not be abused. We all have the right to use them now, and the

Government, in my judgment, should see that there is no possibility of

abuse.

It seems very likely that, so far as water is concerned, the State and

the Nation will have to cooperate and work together (applause). The

State may own the water in Montana because the streams are not

navigable, and I assume this is so in Wyoming and Idaho and the other

mountain States. The Government at present owns much of the land. The

Federal Government may not say to the State, "You cannot use the water

because you cannot get in my backyard," and the State may not say,

"Water is valueless without the use of the land that is situated

adjoining;" so they will have to work together, and they should work

together. That is the way it ought to be, and that is the way it will

be; and I believe that we here in the West, and in the East and in the

South, who have had our States developed by a vast expenditure of these

natural resources and vast waste, will have patience and consideration

for the views of these men who are somewhat fearful lest we do not

permit them to develop their own resources. I believe the Nation will

permit them not only to develop the resources, but will encourage them

in that development (applause).

Now, just a word about Illinois: I have told you so many bad things

about our State that it is not proper to cease speaking without saying

some good things. I was delighted with the statements made by Governor

Norris about Montana. It is a proud record. It has set a good example to

the Government. Our State has done something, too (laughter). Our State,

a long time ago, before we heard of this Conservation movement, had at

least six or eight commissions out doing this very work. We have an

agricultural experiment station that has explored every foot of our

land, I may say, in a phenomenal way; the fact is we are laying off our

State in ten-acre plats, and the University of Illinois is surveying

each ten acres and making a record indicating the kind of soil, later to

give advice as to the development of each ten acres; and the gentleman

under whose supervision that is done is a Delegate to this Congress and

likely to address you. He is a specialist on soil. And we have had a

geological commission that has taken stock of all of our minerals, and

although we are a prairie State we are the third in the Union in our

mineral output. We are not only locating and taking stock of our coal

but showing how to mine it, how to send it by freight, how to store it,

and how to burn it--for nine-tenths of its energy is wasted before you

get it to the place where you should apply it. We have made a survey of

our rivers, studying the fishery question; Illinois river is the second

in its output of food products in the United States, being only exceeded

by Columbia river in the remote West; it has more than doubled in the

last eight years. We have a commission on floriculture and horticulture;

and we have an internal improvement commission that is studying every

stream in our State and giving the information to our counties and

districts for the purpose of forming drainage districts so that the

land may be drained and more of it cultivated. In every

department--water, soil, minerals--our State has made a most careful

investigation, so that we feel we have a complete stock of our

resources; we believe, too, in their development, and we are developing

them. All the departments of our State work are going along as they

should, and our resources are being well conserved.

I have dwelt on a disagreeable feature only because I believe that the

example of Illinois should be beneficial elsewhere. We are having

trouble in attending to our public utilities, as other States will.

Illinois will have expended a hundred million dollars in the making of a

water-course that creates water-power, and you are all familiar with the

disgraceful story as to how the State has tried to cope with that

water-power monopoly through its Legislature and conserve to us what we

created ourselves. It is likely that we shall be compelled to see

certain corporations or private individuals sowing where they didn't

reap, and levying a toll upon a vast expenditure of money made by our

commonwealth; and other States may profit by our experience. (Applause)

* * * * *

Chairman STUBBS--I am very glad indeed to have the opportunity of

introducing Governor Hay, of the great State of Washington (applause).

* * * * *

Governor HAY--Mr Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: I desire to take this

opportunity to thank the good citizens of Saint Paul for seeing to it

that the Western States were given representation at this Congress

(applause). It was not, and never was, the intention of the managers of

this Conservation Congress to allow those who differed with them in

opinion to be heard at this meeting, as I know by long correspondence

myself with the management. In reading the numerous papers published

here in the East relative to the "wild and woolly western men" and their

ideas on Conservation, I said to my wife, before leaving home, "It looks

to me that I am going down to Saint Paul to get the most glorious

spanking a white man ever got." My wife said, "Go down and take it"

(laughter). But since arriving here, I am pleased to say that I have

found innumerable people who look upon this Conservation question

exactly the same way as do the majority of the people of the Pacific

Coast.

All that is needed to solve the problem of conserving our natural

resources is common sense and the application of the square deal

(applause). It is because of a departure from these two essential

elements in the consideration of Conservation, that an unsound, unjust,

and impracticable policy has been advanced in this country. Common sense

has given place to humbug and fairness to intolerance. Instead of calm,

dispassionate, logical discussion of the subject, we hear and read on

every hand exaggerated statements, misrepresentation, false accusation,

dire prophecy, and passionate appeals to prejudice, avarice, and

lawlessness. This has given rise to a wholly perverted notion of true

Conservation, and has brought about a condition hurtful to the West, and

one that, if persisted in, is bound to prove injurious to the Nation.

The only sane and sensible kind of Conservation is that which permits

the fullest and freest development of our natural resources under

provisions that will perpetuate those resources that can be renewed, and

that will obtain the greatest economic good from those that cannot be

replaced. But to many of us of the Pacific Coast and Rocky Mountain

States, Conservation, as practiced, means to tie up and not to utilize.

It signifies to us the letting of our waters run unfettered to the sea

for fear some one might develop their power and turn their energy to the

benefit of mankind in this generation. To us it means the locking up of

our vast forests that they may go to decay or become the prey of the

fire king. It means that, to please some bureaucrat, the people of our

section are held up to allow the timber trust to secure a profit of a

few extra millions each year. It means that our vast coal areas must go

undeveloped, and that we be compelled to spend our money with foreign

mine owners for fuel, importing the coal at no small expense for the

item of transportation alone. It means that the State of Washington is

robbed of the use of 500,000 acres of land that the Federal Government

granted to it for educational purposes at the time it was admitted to

the Union. Conservation as practiced in the past developed into a vast

profit-making scheme for certain southern land grant railroads, which

under it were given scrip in place of worthless desert land included in

forest reservations, treeless since time began and bound to remain

treeless to the end of time. And we have seen this scrip brought north

and placed upon our timber lands that will cruise from 5,000,000 to

50,000,000 feet per section, and are worth from $20 to $100 per acre.

This brand of Conservation means to us that 27-1/4% of the total area of

the State of Washington paid a paltry $16,000 into the public coffers in

1909. It means we are called upon to expend large sums each year for

policing these Federal reserves, which contribute practically nothing to

the cost of State government, while at each session our State

Legislature is compelled to appropriate large sums to build roads

through Federal reserves. Last year we appropriated $205,000 for this

purpose. To us, Conservation means that settlers within forest reserves

who have taken up homesteads in good faith are harassed, browbeaten, and

often forced to abandon their claims and lose the fruits of the labor of

years. As an illustration of this, permit me to read a letter I received

recently from a fellow citizen of mine who, by the way, is a prominent

logger, and while a very wealthy man and a large timber owner, is one

of that kind of men who came up from the bottom; he started in at day's

wages in the State of Washington a little over thirty years ago. This is

what he says:

Speaking for myself and from a selfish standpoint, the present

Conservation by our National Government suits me fine, but in

the interests of the poor settlers who make our country, a

change should be made. Four-fifths of these settlers come out

here from Eastern States and endeavor to take up homesteads,

but they are so harassed and driven from their homesteads

through technicalities and forest rangers under orders that are

absolutely foreign to the best interests of our country and the

settler, that instead of making good citizens the Conservation

laws have made anarchists, and if the thing is kept up,

everything that will burn I expect to see burned within the

next ten years. You cannot drive a man from his home, with a

wife and from one to six children, penniless and hungry and the

children in rags, while the land that would support them lies

idle and wild just to gratify the theory of some man who may be

honest but who is ignorant of the conditions of the frontier. I

will name a case of a man I met in Aberdeen, who told me that

he tramped forty miles three times to make proof on his claim.

He had lived with his family on his homestead for seven years

and endeavored to make proof, coming out with witnesses and

spending money he needed for his family, only to be told the

last time he came out that his hearing was indefinitely

postponed. This man came out a good, loyal, American citizen;

went back a fire-eater. I know another case on the head of

Nooksack river where a man endeavored to take up a homestead on

meadow land, and after he made application it was set aside for

forest rangers' quarters No. 1. He then tried to take a second

homestead and it was set aside for Forest Ranger No. 2; he then

endeavored to take a third, and that was set aside for Forest

Ranger No. 3. The land is fertile beyond description, but there

is nothing living on it, and it is supporting no one.

On the head waters of Skagit river there are tracts of land

that will support from three to four hundred homesteads. This

is purely meadow land with brush and worthless scrub timber,

like all our western Washington meadows. Any five acres of this

land will sustain a family in comfort. This land is held in the

forest reserve, absolutely worthless so far as sustaining

people is concerned, or paying taxes to the State. If our State

is to give up one-third of its taxable property and carry on

its government with two-thirds, she has very little interest,

if any, in that portion of the State reserved by Conservation,

and naturally will not aid in the preservation of the same as

she would were the revenue from these resources to become the

revenue of the State. Up on Quinault river, ten years ago,

there was a flourishing settlement with every prospect for

opening up the country. Since this Conservation law has been in

force, many of these settlers have left their homesteads,

others have been driven off and gone to British Columbia. The

United States Government does not build a road into the

settlement, and the people are too poor to build out. Take it

up in the Northern Peninsula (the greater portion covered by

forest reserve), the land would sustain hundreds of thousands

of comfortable and independent homes; but today it is a howling

wilderness, and the meadow land is as wild as it was a hundred

years ago. The people are too poor to build roads in and across

the forest reserve, and the Government does not.

I sincerely hope and trust that the people of the East who are

not acquainted with the conditions in the State of Washington

will permit this State to control and conduct her own

Conservation, both water, timber, coal and oil, if necessary,

to the best interests of the State and Nation. We have a State

that has upwards of ten million horse-power in our waterfalls

going to waste every minute. With proper State laws this could

be utilized, and so protected that monopoly could not control

it. We have millions of tons of cheap anthracite and bituminous

coal on our coast. Still, the people of Alaska are buying

British Columbia coal and shipping it up to themselves two

thousand miles, while the coal is sticking out of the

mountain-sides of Alaska and cannot be touched. We are shipping

hundreds of thousands of tons of Maryland coal to our navy on

the Pacific Coast, in foreign ships, while we, of the State of

Washington, are prohibited from shipping our cheap lumber to

our own people on the Atlantic Coast, and are compelled, if we

ship at all, to ship it by rail to New York and the thickly

settled portions of the East at a freight rate that is

prohibitive. The only people receiving the benefit of our lower

grades of lumber and cheap prices are the Chinese and Japanese.

If we were permitted to ship our lumber in foreign vessels from

Washington to New York or other ports on the Atlantic Coast, we

could give them lumber that they all need and that we would be

glad to sell at a very reasonable figure. It is the fool laws

that are oppressing the people, both of the East and the West,

and many of them have been made in the interest of monopoly and

many through ignorance.

The West is not here to fight Conservation, for, properly directed, it

is one of the greatest movements inaugurated in this country since the

abolishment of slavery. Our former President instituted many reform

movements that, properly directed, mean happiness and prosperity for our

people; and of all the movements started by him, in my opinion none

means more to the financial welfare of ourselves and our children than

Conservation, as vouched for by President Roosevelt (applause). The

complaint we have is not against the principle of Conservation, but

against the prostitution of that great movement to the impractical ends

of certain men out of sympathy with our institutions. They would

disregard the rights of the people of the Western States to regulate

affairs within their borders; they would retard development of the

younger States; they would compel the citizens of the Western States to

contribute annually large sums of money to the timber, coal and power

companies operating in those sections. While these bureaucrats claim to

be working in the interest of the people, they could not better serve

the Special Interests if they were employed by them. In the past they

laid unusual burdens upon the Western States, and have ruthlessly

crushed and brushed aside the honest homesteader who did not have funds

to fight or carry his case to the highest court. They are attempting to

bottle up and make useless the natural resources of our Western States,

and have our local affairs administered through an irresponsible bureau

located 3,000 miles away. All the people of the West ask is a chance

with the older communities and an honest shuffle--a square deal above

the table--and a show to develop our resources and build up prosperous

communities made up of innumerable happy homes. I believe the people of

the West are as good citizens, and are just as true and loyal to the

interests of the Nation as are the citizens of any other locality. As

States we do not like to be looked upon as provinces or colonial

possessions to be exploited for the benefit of the other sections of

this Nation. I have faith enough in the fairness of the citizens of the

other sections of this Nation to believe that they do not covet or

desire to rob us of what rightfully belongs to us. We believe the profit

arising from the development or exploitation of the natural resources of

each State should be applied to the benefit of and to the cost of

government of that State.

Let me get this fact set in your minds: 95-1/2% of the national reserves

are located within the eleven Pacific Coast and Rocky Mountain States,

and 27-1/4% of the total area of the State I have the honor to represent

is taken up by forest reserves, an area in which could be placed the

States of Maryland, Rhode Island, Delaware, Connecticut, and the

District of Columbia, with room enough to spare to accommodate another

Rhode Island. The extreme Conservationist argues that the people of the

Western States are not competent or qualified to manage the natural

resources within their borders and that a guardian in the shape of a

Federal bureau should be appointed to handle them for us. This is a

gratuitous insult to the intelligence and integrity of the people of the

West. Almost the worst kind of government that can be placed upon a

people is a bureaucracy. Let me call your attention to the fact that

practically all of the land, mineral, coal, timber, and power-site

steals perpetrated upon the people were made when these titles were

vested in the Federal Government.

Now, let us deal a little with common-sense Conservation: The people of

the State of Washington started a practical system of Conservation long

before Conservation became a national issue. The Governor of Montana has

said that Montana was the first State in the Union to practice

Conservation. Evidently the Governor of Montana is not up on the laws of

the State of Washington or he wouldn't have made that statement

(laughter). One of the great natural assets of our State is our

fisheries. Because of over-fishing it became evident to our people some

years ago that, unless proper steps were taken, our fishing industry

would be ruined. Laws were passed regulating the taking of fish, and

numerous hatcheries were established throughout the State. We are now

putting more salmon fry into salt water than is the Federal Government,

and today the State of Washington stands first in the Union in the value

of the products of its fisheries, all because our people a few years ago

started a practical system of Conservation. The expense of enforcing our

laws regulating fisheries and the cost of maintaining and operating

hatcheries is assessed against that industry. We cannot bring ourselves

to consent to turn over the management of this industry to the Federal

Government. In fact, so opposed are the fisher-folk of Puget Sound to

Federal control of the fishing industry, which is threatened because of

the proposed treaty with Great Britain, that they are fighting the

ratification of the treaty by the United States Senate.

Let us now take up the question of the national forest reserves as

administered in the western States. I doubt that there is a thinking man

who does not love the trees, the deep woods and vast forests of our

land; but a tree, like everything else that grows, has its youth, its

maturity, its old age and death. A tree not used at maturity decays,

falls, and becomes a fire-trap and is a serious menace to standing

timber. I believe that when a tree reaches its maturity it should be

used and not allowed to go to decay (applause). Failure to make use of

our natural resources which are going to waste is the antithesis of

Conservation. I believe that all non-forested lands adapted for

agricultural purposes should be opened to settlement and homesteaders

allowed to file upon them. Within the national forest reserves are vast

areas with not a stick of timber on them, and on which timber can never

be made to grow profitably. These tracts should be thrown open to

settlement. It is people we want in the West, not game preserves

(applause); it is happy, prosperous communities, not idle wastes. I

would not advise the acceptance of homestead filings upon timbered areas

until after the timber is removed and it is found the land is suitable

for agriculture. If it is valuable only for timber raising, then the

land should be turned over to the State for reforestation. It is the

duty of the State to all the States to start a system of reforestation.

At the last session of our Legislature, an appropriation was made to

start a survey and have maps made showing the areas of our State better

adapted for timber-growing than for any other purpose. This work is now

well under way. A commission composed of twelve of our leading citizens,

interested in forestry, have been appointed to draft a forestry bill to

be submitted to the coming Legislature, when, without doubt, the State

will start in upon a plan of reforestation; something which every State

of the Union should take up. It is the duty of the States to attend to

the growing of forests within their borders, and not the duty of the

Federal Government. I am not in favor of abolishing the Federal forestry

department. This department should stand in the same relation to the

State forests as the Department of Agriculture stands to the farming

interests of the Nation (applause). We would hardly expect Secretary

Wilson to go around the country, preparing the ground, planting and

harvesting our crops, and collecting the revenue therefrom, and we do

not expect the Federal Government to go inside of the State and start a

system of reforestation where it is absolutely the duty of the State

itself to undertake that work (applause).

The greatest infringement upon the rights of the State to handle their

own internal affairs is the attempt on the part of the Federal

Government to gain control by indirection of our water-power for the

purpose of supervising and deriving the revenue from any possible

development of the powers. This, by the way, is a policy particularly

waged by the National Conservation Association, an organization which is

making of this Conservation question a cult, which has practically set

up a dogma, and whose members are now quarreling over their claims to

orthodoxy. So far about all it has done has been to play into the hands

of the power monopoly, which the first apostles of Conservation claim to

fear so greatly.

Of all the lame arguments I have heard, the one that the people of the

country have not the brains or authority to regulate the charges of any

public service corporation, is the worst. We have two means of reaching

them: by regulating the rates, and by taxation. No State in the Union

was probably ever more troubled than was the State of Washington a few

years ago with a railway lobby. In the year 1905 the Legislature of the

State of Washington passed a railway commission law, and placed the

regulation and control of railroads under this commission. Three years

this commission studied the conditions in the State. It was one of the

first States in the Union to make a physical valuation to determine the

cost of these plants. In 1909 the railway commission of Washington

placed an order into effect that saved to the farmers of the State, in

the hauling of wheat and other grains alone, $750,000. At the same time

they placed an order reducing the general distance tariffs of the

railroads, which cost the railroads of the State $75,000, and the

railroads have never appealed from its decision and those rates are in

effect today. In 1909 the railway commission traveled over every mile of

road in our State, visited every station, held hearings, and as a result

of that trip they made 250 orders ordering new stations, enlargement of

waiting-rooms and train facilities; all those things that the people

complained about they remedied, and of the 250 orders put into

effect--which cost the railroads hundreds of thousands of dollars--they

never have appealed from but 16, and 234 have gone into effect; so the

argument that the States cannot control affairs within their own

borders, it seems to me, is very fallacious (applause). If we are not

competent to handle affairs within our own borders, if we are not

competent to regulate corporations, then let us surrender our

Constitution and go back to territorial days and let the Federal

Government administer our affairs for us. (Applause)

Now, with reference to the water-power bill: The bill before Congress

introduced by Senator Smoot, of Utah, and a similar bill introduced by

Senator Jones, of Washington, are perfectly satisfactory to the people

of the Coast, so far as I know. Governor Norris has explained to you

that the beds and banks of all streams, up to the limit of medium high

tide and medium high water, belong to the States; they do not belong to

the Federal Government. That property is just as much ours as is the

jack-knife in our pockets. Senator Smoot's bill provides that all the

interest the Federal Government has in this is that it owns the sites.

We own the water, we own the power. There is no question about that. The

Supreme Court has passed upon it time and time again. The Government

owns the sites. The Smoot bill provides that the sites in the Federal

reserves shall be turned over to the State government, but that in no

instance shall the State pass the fee-simple title to the land, and no

lease shall be longer than fifty years. This is perfectly satisfactory,

and the people of the State of Washington have no objections to that

form of relinquishment to the State.

The high-handed manner in which a Federal bureau attempted to hold up

the development of the western States was the result of a false

conception of the principles upon which the Government is founded, and a

dangerous assumption that honor and efficiency existed nowhere but in

one self-appointed guide, philosopher, and so-called friend of the

people. I believe it is the intention of those now in authority to

administer the natural resources of the West according to law and with

some respect for the welfare of the State in which the resources are

located. But outside of governmental and administrative circles, an

element composed of faddists, dreamers, and enthusiasts is striving to

bend popular sentiment to certain impractical and unfair policies of

applying Conservation, and it is against this element that the West has

taken arms. We want Conservation that benefits all the people, not a

Conservation that plays into the hands of a few. Conservation that does

not make use of resources rapidly going to waste is Conservation gone

daffy. I have noticed that there are some States down here shouting loud

for Federal control of our natural resources. I want to say that those

Governors who are here shouting the loudest for Federal control are from

the States that have the least amount of natural resources. It is the

desire of these people that the revenue received from these natural

resources shall be surrendered to the Federal treasury. That is what the

western States certainly object to. Some people and papers here are

charging that "the interests," whatever you may call them, are favoring

State control of the natural resources. I want to say to you that "the

interests" are always against local control in any case, and always

prefer that monopoly of all kinds shall be placed in the Federal

Government and as far away from the people as it is possible to get it.

The address made here by President Taft this morning is in line with the

western idea of Conservation as I understand it, and I believe those of

us from the West who look at this question as I do endorse the same safe

statement that has been made by our great President (applause). Let

western men, using up-to-date western methods and familiar with western

conditions, deal with and manage western matters. I thank you.

(Applause)

* * * * *

Chairman STUBBS--Professor Condra will make an announcement before I

introduce the next speaker.

* * * * *

Professor CONDRA--Mr Chairman, and Ladies and Gentlemen: You know that

we have State Conservation Commissions and associations representing

various States. We have recently perfected an organization of these with

a view to cooperation among States and with the Federal departments. The

Federal representatives forming our national committees have thought it

better not to issue any suggestions to the State delegations, preferring

to leave this duty to the committee of the interstate organization, of

which I have the honor to be Chairman, as the more democratic method. We

propose that the chairman of each State Conservation Commission or

Association call his State delegation together at some stated time and

place (in the absence of the chairman the secretary or some other

commissioner may act) to organize the delegation and select

representatives to serve on the resolutions committee and any other

committees, to the end that we may have fair discussion and full

representation of all our States.

* * * * *

Chairman STUBBS--I now take pleasure in introducing Governor Brooks, of

Wyoming. (Applause)

* * * * *

Governor BROOKS--Mr Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: It has been my good

fortune to visit nearly every State in this great Union, and to spend

considerable time in nearly all the larger cities, though, strange to

say, this is the first time I have ever visited this particular spot;

and yesterday, while enjoying a beautiful ride through the Twin Cities

and around the great parks and other resorts, I felt that my education

had been sadly neglected (applause). This is certainly one of the garden

spots of the Union, and I think the people here showed the proper spirit

when their Governor in his address this morning stated that a State

convention on Conservation had been held, at which the attendance

numbered some 7,000 people, to consider the proper conservation of the

soil and to bring about increased production of the farms. I know that

the State of Minnesota is on the right track--that is the important

thing, after all. (Applause)

A few days ago the western Governors held a meeting at Salt Lake City,

and spent two days discussing this question of Conservation. After full

and complete discussion they adopted, unanimously, a brief set of

resolutions, which I think express their views in this important matter.

Colorado, Utah, California, Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, and

Wyoming were represented; and since the resolutions, which have been

published in all the western papers, have met with unqualified public

endorsement, and as it will only take me about a minute, I am going to

read them, as embodying the views of the western Governors--and, I might

add, of 95 percent of the citizens of the great western States:

_Resolved_, that the Governors of the Rocky Mountain and

Pacific Coast States affirm as a platform of principles to be

urged upon the National Conservation Congress to be held at

Saint Paul, September 5-9, 1910

_First_, that in legislatively solving the problem of

Conservation the National Congress adhere to the doctrine of

Abraham Lincoln that the public lands are an impermanent

national possession, held in trust for the maturing States.

Right on that point, I wish to refer to the splendid paper read here at

the opening of this afternoon's session by that brilliant, honest, and

patriotic statesman, Senator Nelson (applause), outlining the public

land laws. I call your attention to the fact that at the beginning of

this great Nation of ours the Federal Government acquired, by cession

from the States, by treaties with the Indians, and by purchase and

conquest, all this vast public-land territory, the early idea being that

this public domain was to be sold for the payment of the Revolutionary

War debt and for the running expenses of the Government; though that

early idea was quickly transformed and changed, owing to the insistent

demand of the settlers, and the pre-emption laws (with which you are all

familiar) followed as the second step. They were a sort of settlement

and revenue measure combined; but still the insistent demand of the

settlers would not stop, and gradually we reached that stage where the

homestead law was passed, and signed by Abraham Lincoln in 1862, giving

the settlers 160 acres of land as the result of settlement and

cultivation, doing away entirely with the old revenue idea; and under

that one law this great State of Minnesota, and every other State in

this central country, has developed to a degree unparalleled in the

history of human progress (applause). Now, all the West asks is an even

break; all the West asks is an equal opportunity. How can we educate our

children, how can we maintain good government and good law, how can we

do all those necessary and essential things to maintain a high state of

civilization and progress, if over one-half of the State is to be held

permanently as a Federal resource, giving no taxation or revenue

whatever to the support of our State governments? (Applause) It is

utterly impossible. We of the West are just as bitterly opposed to

monopoly, just as bitterly opposed to any misuse of the natural

resources of this country as any of you gentlemen here assembled

(applause); but we do believe that the States themselves can in a great

measure work out the safest and best conservation. I might get started

here and go on talking, and I do not want to do it; I want to read the

other resolutions:

_Second_, that State government, no less beneficently than

National Government, is capable of devising and administering

laws for the conservation of public property; and that the

National and State governments should legislatively coordinate

to the end that within a reasonable period of time the State

governments be conceded full and complete administration of

such Conservation laws as may be found adaptable to the varying

conditions of the several States.

The idea being that conditions vary so tremendously--just as you have

heard from the Governor of Mississippi and the Governor of Illinois, the

latter of whom told you about a monopoly stepping in and stopping the

State development of the water-power along one of their streams. Such a

condition is absolutely impossible in the West, because that old law of

riparian rights does not apply; there is no law in the West whereby we

are compelled to allow the water in the streams to flow by your property

undiminished in quantity and undefiled in quality. In the West the law

of appropriation applies, the law of use. Under the Constitution of

Wyoming, granting twenty years ago, we were given all the water of the

State, everywhere and every place; we cannot part title with it, we hold

it, and we will always hold it. Talk about monopoly! How absolutely

impossible, under the laws of Wyoming! We have used this water wisely

and well. I picked out of a paper this afternoon a certificate of

appropriation for power granted in 1900, ten years ago: "Whereas, F. V.

Andrews has presented to the Board of Control of the State of Wyoming

proof of the appropriation of water from Sand creek, tributary to the

Redwater territory, for enlargement of Beulah flouring mill ditch, under

permit 517 (enlargement for power and milling purposes), now, know ye,

that the Board of Control under the provisions of Division 1, Title 9,

Chapters 10 and 14 of the Revised Statutes of Wyoming, 1899, has, by an

order duly made and entered on the 28th day of December, 1909, in order

record No. 4, page 287, determined and established the priority and

amount of such appropriation as follows: name of the proprietor, F. V.

Andrews, postoffice, Beulah, Wyoming; amount of appropriation, 145 cubic

feet of water, date of appropriation, April 6, 1900. Said ditch so

located, the right to use water herein defined, shall not at any time

exceed the volume of 145 cubic feet per second, and the right shall at

all times be subject to any future regulation and restriction that may

be placed on the same by the Legislature of the State of Wyoming."

(Applause) It is absolutely impossible to get a monopoly of water-power

in the State of Wyoming, and such an instance as referred to by the

Governor of Illinois would be impossible. The State of Wyoming could

simply refuse to allow that company to use one drop of water; they have

the power to do it, it is so provided for in the Constitution, just as

the State of Wyoming, if it chose, could absolutely refuse to permit the

general Government itself to use one drop of water for power purposes.

We have never had any power monopoly in the State of Wyoming, and we do

not intend to have.

_Third_, that experience of the Conservation States

demonstrates that dispositions of public property made under

existing National Conservation laws and regulations have tended

to intrench monopolies and interests menacing the common

welfare; and that modifications of such laws and regulations

should be promoted by the Conservation Congress.

Our great President this morning stated a great truth, and it came right

to the hearts of the western people. You can't understand it here,

perhaps, but we realize the importance of Conservation; but we have been

talked to death on it. _What we want is action!_ We want the people to

get busy; we do not want all these things bottled up in cold storage; we

want them used for the generation of today. That is the important thing.

As it is now in Wyoming, every big coal company in the State is adding

an increased price to its coal to the consumer, who is already burdened

beyond the point of endurance, simply because there is no further

development in these coal lands as they stand today under the

withdrawals; every ranchman in the State of Wyoming is paying ten

dollars a thousand more for his lumber than he had to a few years

ago--ten years ago, five years ago--owing to the fact that development

has ceased. The only monopolies that we are troubled with out there are

those that are unable to appraise their capital at present simply

because competition cannot come up and meet them on the markets under

present conditions.

_Fourth_, that the elimination from the forest reserves of all

homestead and untimbered grazing lands is immediately

expedient.

_Fifth_, the use and control of all water-power inheres of

right in the States, within restrictions insuring perpetual

freedom from monopoly.

_Sixth_, that the privilege of American citizens to seek and

develop mineral wealth wherever it may be found should be fully

amplified and secured by laws.

_Seventh_, that the idea of deriving Federal revenue from the

physical resources of the States is repugnant to that

adjustment of constitutional powers which guarantee the

perpetuity of the Union. (Applause)

And with only one thought more I leave you: If the western States, never

having had the opportunity so far to develop their great natural

resources as you people of the East have, as Minnesota and the Atlantic

States have, are now to be changed entirely from the time-honored policy

that has made these States great and powerful; if now we are to be

taxed, as we have been, $150,000 a year for the forest-reserve grazing

privileges, when that same money is used in the great Empire State for

forest protection free of cost, then we of the West have a hard row to

hoe. We simply ask the same fair treatment as accorded every central and

eastern State of the Union. It is not right to tax the West for anything

which you would not apply in one of the great eastern States. We want

our resources protected, we want them safeguarded for our children and

our children's children, but we want the opportunity to make our young

States grow and be prosperous, so that we of the West will have those

things of which we can be as proud as you people of Minnesota are when

you take a gentleman to your magnificent State Capitol, to your great

Agricultural College, and to your other great schools--we want the same

for our children and our children's children, without Federal

interference. (Applause)

* * * * *

Chairman STUBBS--I want to say a word here about a suggestion made by

the Montana Governor. I would like to ask Governor Norris if it is not a

fact that the Federal Government has led in irrigation in Montana?

Governor NORRIS--Has led?

Chairman STUBBS--Yes sir. Haven't they done a great deal of work to

develop your irrigation projects?

Governor NORRIS--For the last three or four years, yes.

Chairman STUBBS--Well, it is within the last three or four years that

this Conservation idea has been spreading out, taking root, and going

out from Washington; they didn't get started until Theodore Roosevelt

got hold of it (applause). As to the Federal Government undertaking to

dominate the West and discriminate against the West, I don't believe

that it is in the heart or mind of Gifford Pinchot or Theodore Roosevelt

or anybody else to do that (applause); but Gifford Pinchot has stood

like a rock and fought like a tiger to keep the thieves out of the

Alaska coal fields (applause), and you ought to build a monument to his

memory for keeping the Cunningham claims off the statute books and from

legalizing by Congress, for it would have been an everlasting disgrace

to the American Nation to have millions and billions of tons of coal

stolen there. What did President Taft say this morning? He said, "We

believe in leasing those lands out there in Montana and in Wyoming and

all over this country." He does not believe in selling those things; he

doesn't believe in turning them over to the State, either. He said as

much here this morning (applause). He says, "Lease them for the benefit

of the people they belong to."

I tell you this Conservation idea, when it is put on the right sort of

basis, is the biggest thing that we have struck in a financial way in a

long while; and I tell you right now (I do not know how it happens, but

it is a matter of fact) I do know that the great syndicates and the

great corporations that want to gobble up all these coal lands and

control these power sites, every bloody one of them, want State control.

(Applause, and cries of "Right, Right!") And the reason they want State

control is because the meshes are too small in the national net; the

Federal Government has given them genuine supervision and genuine

control of national resources, and I thank God for it, too (applause). I

want it to keep coming right along. I would not stand for one minute to

see the West discriminated against; I do not believe in taxing Montana

or Wyoming for anything that you would not tax New York or Pennsylvania

for; neither does Theodore Roosevelt, for he grew up out in that country

and he is one of them and his whole heart is with them; he wouldn't see

one iota of discrimination, and nobody else would; but I say to you that

it is the great electric power organizations and combinations--it

centers down to four or five or six fellows--that are trying to

monopolize all the power sites in the United States! That's what's the

matter now; and those fellows think if they could get the whole thing in

the hands of State legislatures they could dicker and trade with them

(applause and cheers). They know they cannot do it at Washington. That

is all there is to this whole problem; and I say to you today that the

American people ought to build a monument to Theodore Roosevelt and

Gifford Pinchot for the work they have done in this line (great

applause), to say nothing about the other great work that has been done.

I would like to see those Alaska coal thieves sent to jail (laughter and

applause), and for my part I do not take any stock in the Ballinger idea

of running things up there, either (tremendous applause). If I were

President of the United States, I'd kick Ballinger out of that Cabinet

in five minutes, that's what I'd do. (Great and enthusiastic applause)

We might as well tell the truth about it, too. I say to you that this

work has started, and it has started along broad, decent, National

lines; the States have plenty to do right now if they will attend to

business; they have seventy-five percent of the forests now in private

hands with only about twenty-five percent under Federal control, and

two-thirds of all the great coal interests of this country in private

hands with only one-third vested in the Federal Government; I'd like to

see the Federal Government look out for these power sites, and when the

contract is made, let it be made in such a way as they can control it.

Taft made some good suggestions this morning, and I want to give him

credit for it (laughter and applause).

* * * * *

I did not mean to make a speech; I meant to introduce Governor Vessey.

(Laughter and applause, and cries of "Go on, go on") We have great men

here that are ready to talk, and I must close in a few minutes. Governor

Vessey, of South Dakota. (Applause)

* * * * *

Governor VESSEY--Mr Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: You can readily see

by the color of that man's hair (indicating Governor Stubbs) that he

wears the Kansas emblem on his head (laughter and applause) and is not

afraid to say something.

Now, in regard to Conservation, I am a good deal like John was the

afternoon he was out riding with Mary. For some reason or other he

wanted to know whether Mary thought enough of him to marry him, and yet

he wasn't quite ready to make her his wife. But he put the question

anyway, and she immediately accepted him. They rode along for some

distance in silence. Finally she asked, "John, why don't you say

something?" He replied, "There's been too much said already!" (Great

laughter and applause) And there have been lots of good things said

today.

South Dakota is in a peculiar position. It is not in the southern part

of the United States, neither is it in the extreme northwestern part; it

doesn't even join Kansas (laughter), though it has _some_ of the same

kind of spirit (applause). The eastern part of South Dakota is a strip

of country two hundred miles square, and there is no richer, no more

uniform, no better farming land in the United States than that part of

South Dakota; the western part of the State goes into the foothills of

the Rocky Mountains. In this western part is a great forest reserve; and

I want to say I believe that in the State of South Dakota the National

Government is doing the best work in preserving the natural forest done

anywhere in the United States. Still you find in the western part of our

State a great deal of the same spirit that you find in Wyoming, Montana,

and Washington. Why? Because of local interests. You see this is largely

a local question; and what suits Kansas or Mississippi, somehow or other

does not suit Wyoming. It is like the tariff question; and it will

probably never be settled until it is settled by an expert commission

which will deal with the matter as a whole. (Applause)

I believe largely--very largely, indeed--in State rights. I believe the

State should control and own the water-power of streams that are not

navigable and that it should be within its province to provide that the

waters should first be used for the soil and secondarily be used for

furnishing water power to turn the wheels of industry and thereby make

the State richer. For we must admit--just as your great Governor of

Minnesota has said--the first duty of the people of the United States is

to preserve the soil (applause), because the crop that comes annually

from the soil yields the greatest revenue that the United States will

ever have; and we must have it, and must have it increased if we expect

to support the increasing population of the United States at a

reasonable cost so that they can work at reasonable wages and support

homes--possibly not of luxury, but of all the comforts that citizens are

entitled to.

I appreciate the position that has been taken in the conservation of

coal; I appreciate the conservation of timber, of phosphate lands, of

oil, and of gas; but I want to say that the same conditions that have

been referred to upon this platform with reference to the disposing of

power from water-power plants at the lowest minimum cost should apply in

the same way to these other natural resources--yet you will notice that

in the report of the National Forester it is shown that we have been

selling stumpage at market prices. They propose to sell the coal and the

gas and the oil, and possibly the phosphate, at market prices. If that

is true, it is not real Conservation in the interest of the consumer;

because if we only own one-third of the coal and the private individuals

who own two-thirds fix the prices, and if the Government follows them in

fixing the prices, where does the consumer derive any benefit

(applause). The same rule should apply to timber. I can show you, in our

own State, where there are parts of the national forests that are ripe

and should be cut into lumber, and that lumber should be building homes

on our broad prairies. But the price the Government has fixed on the

stumpage is too great for mill-men to buy it and manufacture it and sell

it, even at the high price of lumber out in that country. Now, who is

suffering? The men that are endeavoring to build homes on that prairie.

I think we ought to be intelligent on those things. I think we ought to

use the timber, and we ought to use the coal, and we ought to use the

phosphates, in the upbuilding of this country, and give it to the

consumers, if possible, at a price at which they can use it, and not at

a price that may be set by the large combinations or trusts that control

these products. I thank you. (Applause)

* * * * *

Chairman STUBBS--We were expected to get through here at 5 oclock and it

is now ten minutes after 6. I regret that there is not time to allow a

dozen or fifteen mighty fine men to continue this discussion. The

session is adjourned.

_THIRD SESSION_

The Congress convened in the Auditorium, Saint Paul, on the morning of

September 6, 1910, and was called to order by President Baker.

President BAKER--Ladies and Gentlemen. We have a few minutes before our

honored guest Colonel Roosevelt arrives. We shall occupy that time in

routine business. At Seattle, where this Congress was formed, the

organization was left to an Executive Committee and a Board of

Directors. They are now prepared to submit a report; but the first and

most important question relates to credentials, on which the Congress at

large may properly act.

A DELEGATE--Mr Chairman, I move that the Chair be authorized to appoint

a committee of five on credentials.

President BAKER--Gentlemen, you have heard the motion. Is it seconded?

(The motion was seconded) If there is no discussion, the motion will be

put. All those in favor of the motion will signify their pleasure by

saying aye.

A VOICE--What is the question?

President BAKER--The motion is that the Chair be authorized to appoint a

committee of five on credentials. All in favor will say aye. Contrary

nay. It is a unanimous vote.

The Chair will appoint on that committee Edward Hines, of Chicago,

chairman (and will ask him to call his committee together as soon as

possible); George K. Smith, of Saint Louis, R. W. Douglas, of Seattle,

Charles H. Pack, of Cleveland, Lynn R. Meekins, of Baltimore.

The next important business will be consideration of a Constitution and

By-Laws, which Professor Condra will read.

Professor CONDRA--Mr Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: I am asked to read

the draft of a constitution that you may know that it comes from the

State organizations. Your various State committeemen met and adopted the

draft submitted to us by the Executive Committee; therefore the proposed

Constitution has the approval of two bodies, one State and one National.

(Professor Condra proceeded with the reading of the Constitution as

submitted; after reaching Article VI--)

A DELEGATE--Mr President, as the time is late, and as the Executive

Committee have passed upon Constitution and it has been approved by the

representatives of the States in the form presented, I move that the

further reading be suspended and that the Constitution be adopted.

(Applause)

President BAKER--Is the motion seconded? (Several voices seconded the

motion) All in favor will say aye; contrary nay. Carried without

dissenting voice. (Applause)

Some announcements will now be made by the gentleman from Nebraska.

Professor CONDRA--Ladies and Gentlemen: In order that there may be

proper representation of the various delegations in the Committee on

Resolutions, it is again urged that all members of each delegation meet

and select their representatives. If chairmen of delegations will give

us the place and time of meeting we will gladly announce it from this

platform. Thus far we have not heard of time and place for meeting of

delegations from New Hampshire, North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky,

Ohio, Minnesota, Kansas, Montana, Wyoming, Utah, or Nevada.

[Several announcements of meetings of delegations were here made.]

* * * * *

President BAKER--We will now listen to an address from Honorable John

Barrett, a man known around the world as the Director of the Bureau of

American Republics. (Applause)

* * * * *

Mr BARRETT--Ladies and Gentlemen: If I had the fascinating capacity of

Governor Stubbs, of Kansas (applause), I might be able to do justice to

this occasion; but I have been sitting in yonder corner, behind three

noble Governors each ready to speak, beside the representative of the

British government--which today is watching with great interest this

gathering--not expecting for a moment that I would be called upon today;

and it is only that I may be true to my New England birth and my western

training that I rise in response to the suggestions of your Chairman.

(Applause) If any reason renders it at all fitting that I should say a

word, it is because perhaps I have the honor of representing here today

some twenty nations as showing their interest in this great Conservation

movement which is sweeping over the wide world (applause). I want to

tell you that as this movement grows, under the splendid leadership of

the men who are blazing the way, it will become the policy of every

American country from Alaska and Canada on the north to Argentina and

Chile on the south (applause). We shall hear not only from the United

States but from our sister nations of Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, and

Chile in this effort to make the world realize that if we are to provide

for ourselves and for all men who are to come, we must be

minute-men--the minute-men of the present day.

Ladies and Gentlemen, all the world is listening to what was said

yesterday, on this platform, and all the world will listen, even more

earnestly, to what is said today (applause and cheers); and these two

great pronunciamentos on Conservation will be read in every corner of

the globe, and you and I will be proud that we have participated in this

great movement. (Applause)

* * * * *

[Numerous calls were made for Governor Stubbs.]

Governor STUBBS--Mr Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: It gives me great

pleasure to be here this morning in anticipation of hearing a great

speech from the greatest American and the greatest citizen of the world.

(Vociferous applause) I am proud of our country; I am proud of her

achievements; I am proud of the great State of Kansas, the greatest

State in America (great applause), and I am proud to tell you that we

won't meet in a bar-room today (laughter and applause), and that we do

not have bar-rooms to meet in down in Kansas (great applause and

cheers); and I want to tell you that in Kansas the idea of letting men

spend their money for shoes and clothes and schools and homes has proved

a blooming success (laughter and applause and cheers) as compared with

the fellow who works by the week and makes ten or twenty or forty

dollars and spends it in a saloon Saturday night. (Renewed applause)

You have come here today to consider one of the great problems of the

age and you will hear from a master mind, from the great leader of this

movement, the policies and the plans and the propositions by which the

work will be carried forward. I do not propose to take up your valuable

time this morning in any discussion of a question of such splendid

proportions that I would not have time to get started nor time in which

to stop. (Applause)

* * * * *

Ex-President Roosevelt here entered the hall amid cheers and rousing

enthusiasm and mounted the platform.

* * * * *

President BAKER (when silence was restored)--Reverend Doctor J. S.

Montgomery, Pastor of Fowler Methodist Episcopal Church, Minneapolis,

will now offer an invocation.

INVOCATION

_Almighty God, Father of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, Thou art the

source of all mercy, love, and blessing. Lift upon us all the light of

Thy holy countenance._

_From the beginning Thou hast never been without a witness in the world,

and Thou hast never left us comfortless. Give unto us, O God, the Source

of all wisdom, a great measure of Thy wisdom, truth, and blessing. We

recognize in Thee the source of every good and perfect thing in all the

world. Thou hast opened up this new great world; and on this auspicious

occasion, look Thou upon us in mercy. Bless our great land. Grant that

every source of material blessing may be conserved to serve all the

people; grant that our citizenship may be blessed and directed from

border to border. Remember our country; remember the great Southland,

the great Northland; bless the great East and the great West; and may

all of our people everywhere have bread enough and to spare, and may we

recognize that our supremest duty is not to build up institutions fit

for man but to build up man fit for institutions._

_Bless Thou the Governors of all the States. Remember our great

Government, its legislative, its judicial and its executive branches._

_Remember in mercy the President of these United States; and bless Thou

our most distinguished guest and most conspicuous citizen in all the

world, who is with us this day. Look upon him in mercy, guide him and

direct him in wisdom, and grant that no peril may come nigh him._

_Bless Thou our flag; may it float on until all nations see the

blessings of our great Republic; may it float on until all selfishness

dies out of the world's heart; may it float on until all ignorance shall

be gone; may it float on until the nations of the earth shall be united

in a brotherhood around and about which are wreathed the blessings and

the wisdom of Thy holy and undying self._

_Be Thou in the deliberations of this great body; grant that wisdom and

truth may be uppermost in the minds of all who are here. Accept Thou our

gratitude for thy abiding mercy, and at the last, O Lord, gather us all

into the haven of eternal rest. Through Jesus Christ, our Lord, we ask

it. Amen._

* * * * *

President BAKER--Ladies and Gentlemen: It is now my pleasure to present

that citizen of our country who in three continents has evoked the

greatest enthusiasm, and who has done for this country no greater

service than in forwarding and extending the work of Conservation to

protect the natural resources and in carrying out the principles of fair

dealing between man and man; our most honored citizen, Colonel Theodore

Roosevelt. (Great applause and cheers for many minutes)

ADDRESS BY THEODORE ROOSEVELT

Mr Chairman, and Governor; Governors, and fellow-guests; Men and Women

of Minnesota: It is a very great pleasure to me to be here in Minnesota

again, and especially to come here to speak on this particular subject

of "National Efficiency." (Applause)

Minnesota is one of the States that almost always takes the lead in any

great work (applause), and Minnesota has been one of the first to take

hold of the Conservation policy in practical fashion; and she has done a

great work and set an admirable example to the rest of us (applause)--a

work representing a policy well set forth in your Governor's address

yesterday--and I am glad that this Congress is held in such a State,

where we can listen to such an address made by a Governor who had the

right to make it. (Prolonged applause)

Much that I have to say on the general policy of Conservation will be

but a repetition of what was so admirably said on this general policy

by the President of the United States yesterday (great applause); and

in particular all true friends of Conservation should be in heartiest

agreement with the policy which the President laid down in connection

with the coal, oil, and phosphate lands (applause), and I am glad to be

able to say that at its last session Congress finally completed the work

of separating the surface title to the land from the mineral beneath it.

(Applause)

Now, my friends, America's reputation for efficiency stands deservedly

high throughout the world. We are efficient probably to the full limits

that are permitted by the methods hitherto used. The average American is

an efficient man; he can do his business. It is recognized throughout

the world that that is his type. There is great reason to be proud of

our achievements, and yet no reason to think that we cannot excel our

past (applause). Through a practically unrestrained individualism, we

have reached a pitch of literally unexampled material prosperity. The

sum of our prosperity in the aggregate leaves little to be desired,

although the distribution of that prosperity, from the standpoint of

justice and fair dealing, leaves a little more to be desired (laughter

and applause). But we have not only allowed the individual a free hand,

which was in the main right; we have also allowed great corporations to

act as though they were individuals, and to exercise the rights of

individuals, in addition to using the vast combined power of high

organization and enormous wealth for their own advantage. This

development of corporate action is doubtless in large part responsible

for the gigantic development of our natural resources, but it is also

true that it is in large part responsible for waste, destruction, and

monopoly on an equally gigantic scale. (Applause)

The method of reckless and uncontrolled private use and waste has done

for us all the good it can ever do, and it is time to put an end to it

before it does the evil that it well may (applause). We have passed the

time when heedless waste and destruction and arrogant monopoly are

longer permissible (applause). Henceforth we must seek national

efficiency by a new and a better way, by the way of the orderly

development and use, coupled with the preservation, of our natural

resources; by making the most of what we have for the benefit of all of

us, instead of leaving the sources of material prosperity open to

indiscriminate exploitation (applause). These are some of the reasons

why it is wise that we should abandon the old point of view, and why

Conservation has become a great moral issue, and become a patriotic

duty.

One of the greatest of our Conservation problems is the wise and prompt

development and use of the waterways of the Nation (applause). There are

classes of bulk freight which always go cheaper and better by water if

there is an adequate waterway (applause), and the existence of such a

type of waterway in itself helps to regulate railroad rates (applause).

The Twin Cities, lying as they do at the headwaters of the Mississippi,

are not on the direct line of the proposed Lakes-to-Gulf Deep Waterway,

and yet Minnesota, with its vast iron resources and its need of abundant

coal, is peculiarly interested in that problem (applause); and the Twin

Cities, therefore, have their own real personal concern in the deepening

and regulation of the Mississippi to the mouth of the Missouri and on to

the Gulf. (Applause)

Friends, I have spoken on how progressive Minnesota is and how

progressive these Twin Cities are, but there are other progressive

cities in the West, too (applause). I have just come from Kansas City

(applause)--it's a pretty live proposition (laughter), and there the

merchants themselves have undertaken, by raising over a million dollars,

to start the improvement of the waterway lying at their doors so that

they shall be able to benefit by it. It is sometimes said that the

waterway projects are only backed by people who are delighted to see the

Government spend its money but who are not willing to show their faith

in the proposition by spending their own. Kansas City is spending its

own (applause). The project for a great trunk waterway, an arm of the

sea extending from the Gulf of Mexico to the Great Lakes should be

abandoned (applause). Of course, before any project is entered upon, an

absolutely competent and disinterested commission should report thereon

in full to the Government so that the Government can act in the interest

of the whole people and without regard to the pressure of special

interests (applause), but subject to the action of such a body the

Lakes-to-Gulf Deep Waterway, and the development of the rivers which

flow into it, should be pushed to completion vigorously and without

delay. (Applause)

In nearly every river city from Saint Paul to the Gulf the waterfront is

controlled by the railways. Nearly every artificial waterway in the

United States, either directly or indirectly, is under the same control.

It goes without saying that (unless the people prevent it in advance)

the railways will always attempt to take control of our waterways as

fast as they are improved and completed; and I do not mention this to

blame them in the least, but to blame us if we permit them to do it.

(Great applause and cheers) If Uncle Sam can't take care of himself,

then there is no particular reason why any railroad man should act as

his guardian. (Great laughter and applause) If he attempted the feat he

would merely find himself lonely among other railroads (laughter), and

Uncle Sam wouldn't be materially benefitted. Uncle Sam's got to do the

job himself if he wants to be protected (applause). We must see to it

that adequate terminals are provided in every city and town on every

improved waterway, terminals open under reasonable conditions to the use

of every citizen, and rigidly protected against being monopolized

(applause); and we must compel the railways to cooperate with the

waterways continuously, effectively, and under reasonable conditions.

Unless we do this, the railway lines will refuse to deliver freight to

the boat lines either openly or by imposing prohibitory conditions, and

the waterways once improved will do comparatively little for the benefit

of the people who pay for them.

Adequate terminals, properly controlled, and open through lines by rail

and boat, are two absolutely essential conditions to the usefulness of

internal waterway development. I believe, furthermore, that the railways

should be prohibited from owning, controlling, or carrying any interest

in the boat lines on our rivers (applause), unless under the strictest

regulation and control of the Interstate Commerce Commission, so that

the shippers' interests may be fully protected.

And now here another word in supplement: You are the people; now don't

sit supine and let the railways gain control of the boat lines and then

turn around and say that the men at the head of the railroads are very

bad men (laughter and applause). If you leave it open to them to control

the boat lines, some of them are sure to do so, and it's to our interest

that the best and ablest among them should do so. But don't let any of

them do it, excepting under the conditions you lay down (applause). In

other words, my friends, when you of your own fault permit the rules of

the game to be such that you are absolutely certain to get the worst of

it at the hands of some one else, don't blame the other man; _change the

rules of the game_. (Laughter and applause and prolonged cheering)

Take the question of drainage, which is almost as important to the

eastern States as irrigation is in the western States: Where the

drainage of swamp and overflow lands in a given area is wholly within

the lines of a particular State, it may be well, at least at present, to

leave the handling of it to the State or to private action; but where

such a drainage area is included in two or more States, the only wise

course is to have the Federal Government act (applause); the land should

be deeded from the States back to the Federal Government, and it then

should take whatever action is necessary (applause). Much of this work

must be done by the Nation, in any case, as an integral part of inland

waterway development, and it affords a most promising field for

cooperation between the States and the Nation (applause). The people of

the United States believe in the complete and well-rounded development

of inland waterways for all the useful purposes they can be made to

subserve. They believe also in forest protection and forest extension.

The fight for our National forests in the West has been won, and if

after winning it we now go on and lose it, that is our own affair; but

_we are not going to do it_! (Applause) After a campaign in which her

women did work which should secure to them the perpetual gratitude of

their State, Minnesota won her National forest, _and she will keep it_

(applause); but the fight to create the Southern Appalachian and White

Mountain forests in the East is not yet over. The bill has passed the

House, and will come before the Senate for a vote next February. The

people of the United States, regardless of party or section, should

stand solidly behind it and see that their representatives do so

likewise (applause). Because our ancestors didn't have sufficient

foresight, the Nation is now obliged to spend great sums of money to

take responsibilities from the States. We, the people of the East, our

State Governors--I have been a Governor of an eastern State myself

(applause)--showed that the States in the East couldn't do the work as

well as the National Government and we are now getting the National

Government to take, at large cost to itself, these lands and do the work

the public good requires (applause). When we are now doing that in the

East, it seems to me the wildest folly to ask us to start in the West to

repeat the same blunders that are now being remedied (applause and

cheers). My language shall at least be free from ambiguity.

If any proof were needed that forest protection is a National duty, the

recent destruction of forests in the Rocky Mountains by fire would

supply it. Even with the aid of the Army added to that of the Forest

Service, the loss has been severe. Without either it would have been

vastly greater. But the Forest Service does more than protect the

National forests against fire. It makes them practically and

increasingly useful as well. During the last year for which I have

figures the National forests were used by 22,000 cattlemen with their

herds, 5,000 sheepmen with their flocks, 5,000 timbermen with their

crews, and 45,000 miners. And yet people will tell you they have been

shut up from popular use! (Applause) More than 5,000 persons used them

for other special industries. Nearly 34,000 settlers had the free use of

water. The total resident population of the National forests is about a

quarter of a million, which is larger than the population of some of our

States. More than 700,000 acres of agricultural land have been patented

or listed for patent within the forests, and the reports of the forest

officers show that more than 400,000 people a year use the forests for

recreation, camping, hunting, fishing and similar purposes. All this is

done, of course, without injury to the timber, which has a value of at

least a thousand million dollars. Moreover, the National forests protect

the water supply of a thousand cities and towns, about 800 irrigation

projects, and more than 300 power projects, not counting the use of

water for these and other purposes by individual settlers. I think that

hereafter we may safely disregard any statements that the National

forests are withdrawn from settlement and usefulness (applause).

Conservation has to do not only with natural resources; it has to do

with the lives of those who enable the rest of us to make use of those

natural resources. The investigations of the Country Life Commission

have led the farmers of this country to realize that they have not been

getting their fair share of progress and all that it brings. Some of

our farming communities in the Mississippi valley and in the middle West

have made marvelous progress, and yet even the best of them, like

communities of every other kind, are not beyond improvement, and those

that are not the best need improvement very much. As yet we know but

little of the basic facts of the conditions of rural life compared to

what we know about the conditions, for instance, of industrial life. The

means for better farming we have studied with care, but to better living

on the farm, and to better business on the farm--I mean by that, having

the farmer use the middleman where it is to the farmer's advantage and

not be used by the middleman chiefly to the middleman's advantage

(applause)--scant attention has been paid. One of the most urgent needs

of our civilization is that the farmers themselves should undertake to

get for themselves a better knowledge along these lines. Horace

Plunkett, an Irishman, for many years a Wyoming ranchman, has suggested

in his recent book on "The Country Life Problem in America" the creation

of a Country Life Institute as a center where the work and knowledge of

the whole world concerning country life may be brought together for the

use of the Nation. I strongly sympathize with his ideas. Last spring,

while visiting the capital of Hungary, Buda-Pesth, I was immensely

impressed by the Museum of Country Life, which contained an

extraordinary series of studies in agriculture, in stock-raising, in

forestry, in mining. It was one of the most interesting places I ever

visited, and the exhibits were not merely interesting and instructive,

they were of the utmost practical importance; and I felt rather ashamed

that I, a citizen of what we suppose to be a very go-ahead country,

should be in Hungary and obliged to confess we had nothing at all like

that in our own country. I wish we had such a museum in Washington, and

some of your farmer congressmen ought to get a detailed report of this

Buda-Pesth museum to be printed for distribution as a public document

(applause). I would like to see a study made of such museums, so that we

may take what is good in them for our own use here in America.

(Applause)

As a people we have not yet learned the virtue of thrift. It is a mere

truism to say that luxury and extravagance are not good for a Nation. So

far as they affect character, the loss they cause may be beyond

computation. But in a material sense there is a loss greater than is

caused by both extravagance and luxury put together. I mean the

needless, useless and excessive loss to our people from premature death

and avoidable diseases. It has been calculated that the material loss to

the Federal Government in such ways is nearly twice what it costs to run

the Federal Government.

One of the most important meetings in our recent history was that of the

Governors in the White House in May, 1908, to consider the Conservation

question (applause). By the advice of the Governors, the meeting was

followed by the appointment of a National Conservation Commission. The

meeting of the Governors directed the attention of the country to

Conservation as nothing else could have done, while the work of the

Commission gave the movement definiteness, and supplied it with a

practical program. Now, my friends, so far, I have had nothing but

praise to speak of Minnesota; but I cannot continue to speak only words

of praise. At the moment when this Commission was ready to begin the

campaign for putting its program into effect, an amendment to the Sundry

Civil Bill was introduced by a congressman from Minnesota, with the

purpose of putting a stop to the work so admirably begun. (Sensation)

Congress passed the amendment. Its object was to put an end to the work

of a number of commissions which had been appointed by the President,

and whose contributions to the public welfare had been simply

incalculable. (Voice: "Now, what do you think of Tawney?" and laughter)

Among these were the Commission for Reorganization of the Business

Methods of the Government, the Public Lands Commission, the Country Life

Commission, and the National Conservation Commission itself. When I

signed the Sundry Civil Bill containing this amendment, I transmitted

with it, as my last official act, a memorandum declaring that the

amendment was void because it was an unconstitutional interference with

the rights of the Executive and that if I were to remain President I

would pay to it no attention whatever (enthusiastic applause and

cheers). The National Conservation Commission thereupon became dormant.

The suspension of its work came at a most unfortunate time, and there

was serious danger that the progress already made would be lost. At this

critical moment the National Conservation Association was organized. It

took up work which otherwise would not have been done; if it had not

done it we wouldn't have had this meeting here (applause), and it

exercised a most useful influence in preventing bad legislation, in

securing the introduction of better Conservation measures at the past

session of Congress, and in promoting the passage of wise laws. It

deserves the confidence and support of every citizen interested in the

wise development and preservation of our natural resources (applause)

and in preventing them from passing into the hands of uncontrolled

monopolies (applause). It joins with the National Conservation Congress

in holding this meeting. I am here by the joint invitation of both.

(Applause)

When the Government of the United States awoke to the idea of

Conservation and saw that it was good, it lost no time in communicating

the advantages of the new point of view to its immediate neighbors among

the nations. A North American Conservation Conference was held in

Washington, and the cooperation of Canada and Mexico in the great

problem of developing the resources of the continent for the benefit of

the people was asked and promised. The Nations upon our northern and

southern boundaries wisely realized that their opportunity to conserve

their natural resources was better than ours, because with them

destruction and monopolization had not gone so far as they had with us.

So it is with the republics of Central and South America. Obviously they

are on the verge of a period of great material progress. The development

of their natural resources--their forests, their mines, their waters,

and their soils--will create enormous wealth. It is to the mutual

interests of the United States and our sister American Republics that

this development should be wisely done. Our manufacturing industries

offer a market for more and more of their natural wealth and raw

material, while they will wish our products in exchange. The more we buy

from them, the more we shall sell to them. Thank Heaven, we of this

hemisphere are now beginning to realize, what in the end the whole world

will realize, that normally it is a good thing for a Nation to have its

neighbors prosper (great applause). We of the United States are

genuinely and heartily pleased to see growth and prosperity in Canada,

in Mexico, in South America (applause). I wish we could impress upon

certain small Republics to the south of us, whose history has not always

been happy, that all we ask of them is to be prosperous and _peaceful_

(laughter and applause). We do not want to interfere, it is particularly

the thing that we dislike doing; all we ask of any Nation on this

hemisphere is that it shall be prosperous and peaceful, able to do

reasonable justice within its own boundaries and to the stranger within

its gates; and any Nation that is able to do that can count on our

heartiest and most friendly support. (Applause)

It is clear that unless the governments of our southern neighbors take

steps in the near future by wise legislation to control the development

and use of their natural resources, they will probably fall into the

hands of concessionaires and promoters, whose single purpose, without

regard to the permanent welfare of the land in which they work, will be

to make the most possible money in the shortest possible time. There

will be shameful waste, destructive loss, and short-sighted disregard of

the future, as we have learned by bitter experience here at home. Unless

the governments of all the American Republics, including our own, enact

in time such laws as will both protect their natural wealth and promote

their legitimate and reasonable development, future generations will owe

their misfortunes to us of today. A great patriotic duty calls upon us.

We owe it to ourselves and to them to give the other American Republics

all the help we can. The cases in which we have failed should be no less

instructive than the cases in which we have succeeded. With prompt

action and good will the task of saving the resources for the people is

full of hope for us all.

But while we of the United States are anxious, as I believe we are

able, to be of assistance to others, there are problems of our own which

must not be overlooked. One of the most important Conservation questions

of the moment relates to the control of water-power monopoly in the

public interest (applause). There is apparent to the judicious observer

a distinct tendency on the part of our opponents to cloud the issue by

raising the question of State as against Federal jurisdiction

(applause). We are ready to meet this issue if it is forced upon us

(applause), but there is no hope for the plain people in such conflicts

of jurisdiction. The essential question is not one of hair splitting

legal technicalities (applause). It is not really a question of State

against Nation, it is really a question of the special corporate

interests against the popular interests of the people. (Tremendous

applause and cheers) If it were not for those special corporate

interests, you never would have heard the question of State against

Nation raised (great applause and cheers). The real question is simply

this, Who can best regulate the special interests for the country's

good? (Voices: "Theodore Roosevelt!" and prolonged applause and cheers)

Most of the great corporations, and almost all of those that can

legitimately be called the great predatory corporations (laughter), have

interstate affiliations: therefore they are out of reach of effective

State control, and fall of necessity within the Federal jurisdiction

(applause). One of the prime objects of those among them that are

grasping and greedy is to avoid any effective control either by State or

Nation; and they advocate at this time State control chiefly because

they believe it to be the least effective (applause). If it grew

effective, many of those now defending it would themselves turn around

and declare against State control, and plead in the courts that such

control was unconstitutional (applause). I had my own experience

(applause and laughter); I'll give you an example of it. When I was

Governor of New York, there came up a bill to tax the franchises of

certain big street railway corporations. As originally introduced, the

bill provided that the taxation should be imposed by the several

counties and localities in which those corporations did business.

Representatives of the corporations came to me and said that this would

work a great hardship upon them, that the State authority would be more

just, that the local authorities (especially where a railroad ran

through two or three towns or counties) would each endeavor to get the

whole benefit of the taxation for their own locality, and that, in the

name of justice, I ought to agree to have the State and not the

localities made the taxing power. I thought their plea just, and

recommended and sanctioned the change. The bill was made a law; and

those same corporations instantly entered suit against it on the ground

that it was unconstitutional (laughter and applause) to take the power

of taxation away from the localities and give it to the State (renewed

laughter and applause); and they carried the suit up to the Supreme

Court of the United States where, during my own term as President, it

was decided against them. (Applause)

In the great fight of the people to drive the special interests from the

domination of the Government, the Nation is stronger, and its

jurisdiction is more effective than that of any State (applause). I want

to say another thing, which the representatives of those corporations do

not at the moment believe, but which I am sure that in the end they will

find out; because of its strength, because of the fact that the Federal

Government is better able to exact justice from them, I also believe it

is less apt, in some sudden gust of popular passion, to do injustice to

them (applause). Now, I want you to understand my position--I do not

think you can misunderstand it. I will do my utmost to secure the rights

of every corporation. If a corporation is improperly attacked, I will

stand up for it to the best of my ability; I'd stand up for it even

though I was sure that the bulk of the people were misguided enough at

the moment to take the wrong side and be against it (applause). I should

fight to see that the people, through the National Government, did full

justice to the corporations; but I don't want the National Government to

depend only upon their good will to get justice for the people. (Great

applause) Now, most of the great corporations are in large part financed

and owned in the Atlantic States, and it's a rather comical fact that

many of the chief and most zealous upholders of States' rights in the

present controversy are big business men who live in other States

(applause). The most effective weapon is Federal laws and the Federal

Executive. That is why I so strongly oppose the demand to turn these

matters over to the States. It is fundamentally a demand against the

interest of the plain people, of the people of small means, against the

interest of our children and our children's children; and it is

primarily in the interest of the great corporations which wish to escape

effective Government control. (Applause)

And I ask you to consider two more things in this connection: Waters

run; they don't stay in one State (laughter and applause). That fact

seems elementary, but it tends to be forgotten. I have just come from

Kansas. Practically all the water in Kansas runs into Kansas from

another State, and out of it into other States. You can't have effective

control of a watershed unless the same power controls all the watersheds

(applause and cries of "Good"), as the water runs not merely out one

State into another but out of one country into another. One of the great

irrigation projects of Montana has been delayed because the Waters that

make the Milk river rise in Montana, flow north into Canada, and then

come back into Montana. You can't settle that matter excepting through

the National Government (applause); the State can't settle it. So much

for what we see here. Now, take the experience of other Nations--of the

little Republic of Switzerland. It actually tried what some of our

people ask to try; it actually tried the experiment of letting each

Canton handle its own waters, and a conflict of jurisdiction arose, and

the squabbling and the injustices became such that about nine years ago

the National Government of Switzerland had to assume complete control of

all the waters of Switzerland, on the explicit ground that all of the

waters belonged to all the citizens of the Swiss nation (great

applause). Now, I am not asking that we go ahead recklessly; I am only

asking that we do not go backward where other countries have gone ahead.

(Applause)

As the President yesterday pointed out, one of the difficulties that we

have to meet, in connection with the fight for Conservation, is that our

aim is continually misrepresented--that the effect is constantly made to

show that we are anxious to retard development. It has been no slight

task to bring ninety millions of people to understand what the movement

is, and to convince them that it is right. Much remains to be cleared up

in the minds of the people, and there are many misunderstandings to be

removed. For example, we find it constantly said by men who should know

better that temporary withdrawals, such as the withdrawals of the coal

lands, will permanently check development. Yet the fact is that these

withdrawals have no purpose whatever except to prevent the coal lands

from passing into private ownership until Congress passes laws to open

them under conditions just alike to the public and to the men who will

do the developing (applause). And, now understand me; if there is any

doubt whether the conditions are liberal enough to the men who are to do

the developing. I always solve the doubt in favor of liberality to those

men; I want to give them every chance, I want to give them every

opportunity to do well for themselves, but I want to see that in doing

well for themselves they also do well for the rest of us. (Applause)

In spite of these difficulties, most of which are doubtless inevitable

in any movement of this kind, the cause of Conservation has made

marvelous progress. We have a right to congratulate ourselves on it, but

there is no reason for believing that the fight is won. In the beginning

the special interests, who are our chief opponents now, paid little heed

to the movement, because they neither understood it nor saw that if it

won they must lose. But with the progress of Conservation in the minds

of the people, the fight is getting sharper. The nearer we approach to

victory, the bitterer the opposition that we must meet and the greater

the need for caution and watchfulness. Open opposition we can overcome,

but we must guard ourselves; and you of this Congress must especially

guard yourselves against the men who are really corporate agents but who

pose as disinterested outsiders (applause). Now I heartily approve the

action of any corporation which comes here openly because it is

interested in the deliberations of a meeting such as this, and by its

openly accredited agents presents views which it believes the meeting

should have in mind (applause); I approve of the corporation that does

that, and I would despise any of our people who feared instantly to give

the most ample and respectful hearing and real consideration to any such

plea thus put forward. (Applause and cries of "Good!") The corporation

through its agents not only has a right to be heard, but if it did not

volunteer you ought to endeavor to see that its views were presented. My

protest is not against the man who comes here openly as the corporation

agent, but against the man who comes here openly as something else and

really as the corporation agent. (Laughter)

It is our duty and our desire to make this land of ours a better home

for the race, but our duty does not stop there. We must also work for a

better Nation to live in this better land (applause). The development

and conservation of our national character and our free institutions

must go hand in hand with the development and conservation of our

natural resources, which the Governors' Conference so well called the

foundations of our prosperity. Whatever progress we may make as a

Nation, whatever wealth we may accumulate, however far we may push

mechanical progress and production, we shall never reach a point where

our welfare can depend in the last analysis on anything but the

fundamental qualities of good citizenship--honesty, courage, and common

sense (applause). The homely virtues are the lasting virtues, and the

road which leads to them is the road to genuine and lasting success.

What this country needs is what every free country must set before it,

as the great goal toward which it works--an equal opportunity for life,

liberty and the pursuit of happiness to all of its citizens, great and

small, rich and poor, great and humble, alike. (Tumultuous applause and

continuous cheers)

_FOURTH SESSION_

The Congress reassembled in the Auditorium, Saint Paul, after luncheon,

September 6, and was called to order by Vice-President Condra.

* * * * *

Professor CONDRA--Delegates, Ladies and Gentlemen: President Baker has

asked me, as one of the vice-presidents, to preside pending his arrival.

We are to be congratulated in that we are to hear from many

distinguished speakers on many interesting topics this afternoon. We are

especially happy in that the first speaker is one who has done much, not

only in Washington but throughout the world, for conserving human life

through the work of the Red Cross. I have great pleasure in presenting

to you Miss Mabel Boardman, of Washington. (Applause)

* * * * *

Miss BOARDMAN--Mr Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: Of what value would

Conservation be without human life? For the benefit of man's life are

given all these energies which are devoted to the Conservation of our

natural resources. So at the very foundation of Conservation must lie

the preservation of that for which Conservation exists.

It is in this principle of Conservation of human life that the Red Cross

has its being. Though first inspired by Florence Nightingale in the

Crimea, it was born on the bloody battlefield of Solferino, more than

fifty years ago, when Henri Dunan witnessed the terrible waste of human

life because of the lack of medical and nursing care. The Red Cross has

become one of the great conserving forces of all the world. It acts

under the only universal Conservation treaty in existence. One after

another all the nations of the world have signed this Treaty of Geneva,

first drafted in 1864, revised in 1906, and its provisions extended to

naval warfare by the Treaty of The Hague.

The opening words of the Geneva Treaty read: "Officers, soldiers, and

other persons officially attached to armies, who are sick and wounded,

shall be protected and cared for, without distinction of nationality, by

the belligerent in whose hands they are. The belligerent in possession

of a field of battle must search for and protect the wounded, and may

grant immunity to those inhabitants who have taken into their homes the

disabled men. The neutrality of hospitals and ambulances with their

personnel, who cannot be made prisoners of war, must be respected, and,

for humanity's sake, lists of the dead and wounded must be exchanged for

transmission to the families of these men by the authorities of their

own country." This wonderful treaty provides its own insignia, and

wherever throughout the world the grating doors of the Temple of Janus

open wide their terrible portals it flings to the winds of heaven its

merciful banner of Conservation of the sick and wounded, the flag of the

Red Cross.

The treaty provides, moreover, protection for the volunteer aid

societies which have received official authority from their respective

governments. These are the three great Red Cross Societies. Recognizing

two facts, _first_, that no medical service of any nation can be

adequate to the demands of war, and _second_, that at such times the

humanity and patriotism of a people become deeply stirred into active

life and that this activity should be utilized in such a systematic way

as to be of real value in the saving of life for the sake of humanity

and for the sake of the country, the members of the original Geneva

Conference recommended to the signatory powers the formation of these

volunteer aid societies. Thus, the Red Cross had its origin in the

purpose of conservation of human life in time of war. How efficiently it

has carried out this duty where well organized is shown by a glance at

the remarkable statistics of the work done by the Red Cross of Russia

and Japan during the late war in the Far East.

I am tempted here to dwell for a moment on one or two facts connected

with the Japanese Red Cross. It has today more than 1,522,000 members,

and its annual revenue in 1909 amounted to more than $2,000,000. In

spite of the late war which was such a serious drain upon the resources

of the country, the Japanese Red Cross never depleted by a single yen

its permanent fund. The report for 1909, just received, gives this

permanent fund as more than $5,000,000, and it has besides in other

funds more than $2,000,000 on hand. By 1913 it plans to have increased

its permanent fund to $7,500,000; and knowing what Japan has already

done, we cannot doubt the carrying out of this expectation.

But though since the beginning of history wars have been from time to

time the misfortune of mankind, the great forces of nature bring a far

more frequent need for such assistance as the Red Cross is able to

render. Because of this ever recurring need of organized aid the Red

Cross reached out its strong and well-trained arms into this broader

field to succor the victims of great disasters.

The charter granted by Congress to the American Red Cross, and which

created it the officially authorized Red Cross of our Government,

provides that it shall not only "take charge of the volunteer relief in

time of war" but that it shall "carry on a system of national and

international relief in time of peace, and apply the same in mitigating

the sufferings caused by pestilence, famine, fire, floods, and other

great calamities, and to devise and carry on measures for preventing

same." Under this charter our own American Red Cross is not a private

association of certain people, but an officially authorized agency of

our Government, responsible to the people, and whose existence Congress

may at any time cancel by annulling the charter. Its accounts are

audited by the War Department. The chairman and five members of the

Central Committee, representing the Departments of State, Treasury, War,

Justice, and Navy are appointed by the President of the United States.

The State Department is represented because of participation in

international relief. The Treasury provides the National Red Cross

treasurer, the Department of Justice, the counselor, and the army and

navy have their reasons for representation not only because of war

association but because, during National disaster relief as at San

Francisco, Hattiesburg, and Key West, the Red Cross has the heartiest

and most invaluable aid of our army, while in international relief, as

in Italy after the earthquake and at Bluefields, Nicaragua, it receives

the equally hearty and valuable aid of our navy. Briefly, then, of what

does the American Red Cross organization consist? Since its

reorganization in 1905, William Howard Taft, now President of the United

States, has been yearly elected as its president, and largely to his

constant interest, wise counsel, and valuable assistance is its success

due. It has, besides the other usual officers, a national director Mr

Ernest P. Bicknell, whose particular duty it is to proceed immediately

to the scene of any serious disaster and take charge of or advise in

regard to the Red Cross relief work. It has a central committee of

eighteen, which elects an executive committee of seven. Under this

committee the work of the Red Cross is segregated into three departments

for war and for national and international relief, each under a board of

fifteen members. The chairman and vice-chairman of each board are

members of the central committee.

The war relief board, of which the surgeons representing the army and

navy on the central committee are respectively chairman and

vice-chairman, has prepared a complete list of every coastwise vessel

suitable for a hospital ship, so that such a ship could be chartered at

a moment's notice. It has moreover drawn up a complete and detailed list

for the equipment of such a ship with estimates of the cost of this

equipment and the necessary transformation for hospital purposes. It is

studying the questions of civil hospital accommodations for war-time

need, of hospital trains, of field hospitals, rest stations, the use of

private automobiles for ambulances, and other kindred subjects. A

sub-committee, six of whom are members of the board and nine of whom are

representative women of the trained nursing profession, and whose

chairman is Miss Jane Delano, Superintendent of the Army Nurse Corps,

has systematized the Red Cross nursing service, prepared uniform

regulations, organized State and local committees, and is fast enrolling

the best trained nurses in the country for active service in time of

need. These splendid nurses at such times not only undertake the most

difficult work under frequently severe hardships, but when on this

active duty accept from the Red Cross only half of their usual salary.

This Red Cross nursing committee will later take up the plan of

providing courses for women in simple home nursing of the sick.

Another sub-committee of the war relief board is the First Aid

Committee, the chairman of which, Major Charles Lynch, of the Army

Medical Service, is detailed for this particular duty by the

Surgeon-General. The work of this committee is the organizing of courses

in first-aid instructions throughout the country. On this committee such

men as Mr John Hays Hammond represent the mine companies; Mr John

Mitchell, the miners; Mr Julius Kruttschnitt, the railroad companies; Mr

W. G. Lee, the trainmen; Dr D. A. Mansfield, the sailors' interests; Dr

J. A. Holmes, the U. S. Bureau of Mines. The Y. M. C. A. is also

represented on the committee, as it now gives all its first-aid courses

in collaboration with the Red Cross. Dr M. J. Shields is employed as the

agent to organize these courses among miners. It is expected this autumn

that a special car will be donated by the Pullman Company for the

purpose of sending with Dr Shields a traveling first-aid equipment and

safety-device exhibit. A number of railroads have already most kindly

consented to transport this car free of expense to the Red Cross. I may

say that in every case of a great calamity, the railroad companies,

express companies, telegraph and telephone companies, have placed their

services free at the disposition of the Red Cross in a most helpful and

generous spirit.

The first-aid courses will soon be extended to trainmen and employees of

large industrial concerns, as has been done by the British and German

Red Cross. Major Lynch has prepared for the Red Cross a most excellent

general text-book on first-aid, also a special book for miners and

trainmen, and another, at its request, for the Bell Telephone Company.

Furthermore, valuable and inexpensive anatomical charts have been

printed for these courses, and small metal boxes hermetically sealed

containing first-aid bandages and a leaflet of directions have been made

for the society, as well as a larger box for railroad stations, mines,

factories, etc. Competitions in first-aid have been held, and prizes and

medals awarded. More than sixty thousand posters calling attention to

precautions to be taken to prevent personal injury on railroads, and

over thirty thousand of a like nature for trolley cars, have been issued

by the Red Cross and are distributed on application from various

companies.

To spread abroad throughout the country the knowledge of first-aid among

our industrial classes, in fact, among all classes of our people, is the

aim of this department of Red Cross work. Not only in time of war or

disaster will such knowledge prove of great value, but in all of the

frequent accidents of daily life will this training be of help.

(Applause)

The second board, that of the national relief, has to do with the study,

planning and overseeing of relief after national disaster. It is not

possible, nor would it be wise, for the Red Cross to maintain a corps of

trained workers for active duty after disaster, when such duty comes

only from time to time; so to provide itself with an experienced

personnel, it has created an institutional membership consisting of the

best charity organization societies of the country. These associations

in accepting membership consent to utilize their personnel under

direction of this board and of Mr Bicknell, the national director, for

active relief duty. For example, Mr Logan of the Atlanta organization,

went on Red Cross orders to Key West last September, systematized relief

work so as to avoid imposture, unfortunately prevalent at such times,

advised with the Mayor and commanding officer of the army post there,

arranged that the contributions be mainly expended in rehabilitating the

fishermen who had lost their little boats, their only means of earning

their livelihood. As each boat was completed, the owner who had been

provided with material for his boat and paid a daily wage while building

it, was again on his feet, able to support himself, and his name was

taken from the list of those being aided.

At the time of the Cherry Mine disaster, Mr Kingsley of the United

Charities of Chicago, went immediately to the scene of the disaster,

remaining until Mr Bicknell could arrive. Then for several months, at

the request of the Red Cross, his assistant and two good women who could

speak Italian and Polish to the poor distracted miners' widows, remained

at Cherry while Mr Bicknell's plan for permanent relief could be

perfected and accepted. By this plan, which is now being carried out,

the generous funds contributed by the people of Illinois, by its State

Legislature, and by the miners' unions, amounting to about $300,000,

have been consolidated and are being administered by a joint commission

so that a pension can be paid to each widow and minor child until the

children are of an age to become wage-earners themselves and the fund is

exhausted. (Applause)

The national relief board has also had charge of the little Red Cross

Christmas stamp--next year to be called a "_Christmas seal_"--placed on

the back of letters out of deference to the wishes of the post office

department, which has suffered from a multiplicity of stamps issued by

others because of the success of the Red Cross stamp. That stalking

spectre of pestilence, tuberculosis, had laid its devastating hand on

every nation; it invades the palace as well as the hovel, and the youth

of the people are its surest prey. With a weapon tinier than the stone

in David's sling, the Red Cross sends forth this little seal to do its

part. In the last two years it has netted more than $350,000 with which

to war against this grim destroyer. Here again the Red Cross carries out

its principle, the conservation of the _human life_. (Applause)

The third board is that of international relief with a representative of

the state department as its chairman. Two maps hang on the walls of the

Red Cross office at Washington, one of the world, the other of the

United States with its insular possessions. Starred over these large

maps are little red crosses marking the fields of its noble labors for

Conservation. Not alone within our own borders lies its merciful

service. Far away in Russia, China, and Japan, when famine claimed its

thousands of tortured victims, went the Red Cross, aided by the

_Christian Herald_ of New York, with food for the starving multitudes:

when earthquakes in Chili, Jamaica, Italy, Portugal, and Costa Rica

brought destruction and desolation, when floods in Mexico, France, and

Servia devastated the land, when massacres in Armenia brought suffering,

misery, and even death to thousands, when internal war in Nicaragua left

regiments of wounded, naked, and starving boy prisoners, our American

Red Cross stretched out her helping hand to these, her sister nations in

distress (applause). If in Conservation lies thought for men yet

unborn, thought must also be given for the men who live today, and the

Red Cross recognizes its duty toward the conservation of all human life.

(Applause)

But a moment more on its organization: In over thirty States, boards of

representative men, with the Governor in each State as president of the

board, have already been appointed, and before the end of the year the

boards for all of the other States and for the insular possessions will

probably be completed. The duty of such a board is to act as a financial

committee for the receipt of contributions of the people of the State in

case of war, local, national or international disaster. The Governor

being president of the board, may issue an appeal to the people of the

State when in his judgment a disaster of sufficient magnitude within the

State justifies such an appeal. On the occurrence of disasters without

the State, appeals are issued only on advice from the National officers.

The Governor or State board may, in case of any disaster within the

State of sufficient magnitude, request of headquarters the assistance of

the National body. Chapters of the Red Cross may exist in any town, city

or county where there are five or more members who pay the annual dues

of one dollar. It is the duty of these chapters to respond promptly and

vigorously to any request for action on the part of the Red Cross in

time of war or disaster at home or abroad. Appeals issued by the

president of the State board or from Washington will state the needs for

money or supplies, or both, which the chapter should at once begin

collecting. In case of a serious local disaster, the chapter acts as the

supply agency for the National director and institutional member, when

such member is present. In case no institutional member is at hand, it

is expected to take prompt relief measures pending the arrival or

instructions of the National director. This, then, in brief, is the

organization of the Red Cross for active service: National officers, a

central committee, relief boards with their sub-committees; State

hoards, chapters, and institutional members.

It seems impossible in a non-military country like ours to obtain and

retain a large supporting membership with small annual dues, as is done

in other countries. When reports of great calamities fill the papers,

our people give with wonderful generosity, but the minor disasters,

whereby small communities suffer greatly, receive but little notice from

our public. If Japan plans to increase its Red Cross permanent fund to

$7,500,000, could not the people of this country raise for our American

Red Cross a permanent fund of $2,000,000? I, for one, believe they will,

for New York City alone has already promised nearly quarter of that

amount, and this autumn endowment committees of prominent men, appointed

by the President of the United States, will make an appeal to our people

all over the country to raise this permanent fund for the American Red

Cross.

And, last, may I say a word or two for some of the by-products of

Conservation in Red Cross service? In the work of the Red Cross

first-aid department lies the far-reaching results of conservation of

the life of the wage-earner of the family as well as the labor-producer

of the country, or in case of his death in disaster, as at Cherry, the

administration of the relief funds so that the unfortunate widows can

keep their little children at home (applause),--a by-product, the

conservation of the family.

The preservation of life in time of war has not only its humane feature

but its patriotic reason. In fact, the Japanese Red Cross puts this

principle first. The saving of one of the most important assets of any

country, that of its young manhood, becomes a by-product of Conservation

for the sake of patriotism.

Another by-product is the conservation of communities. Whether some

little hamlet or some large city suffers from the overwhelming calamity

of fire, flood, storm, earthquake or pestilence, or the still more

pitiful disaster of widespread famine settles over a great province or

empire, its people are brought down to desolation and despair. Their

neighbors suffer as well and there are none at hand to help. Without aid

they must die or drift away from their homes like unmoored boats after a

storm, to be swamped at sea or wrecked upon the rocks of unknown shores.

It is then to these communities as well as to the individual that the

Red Cross comes. It calls to the disconsolate "Comfort ye, my people,

build again your homes. Sow again your fields; the strong arms of the

Red Cross are here to aid you, held up by your brothers of the Nation,

yea, by your brothers of the world, if there is need" (applause). On a

beautiful silver tablet, presented by an Italian relief committee to the

American Red Cross, are engraved in Latin the words of an old Roman

historian, "Your bounty has repaired the catastrophe not merely of

individual citizens but of entire cities."

And there is one more by-product of Conservation not having so much to

do with things material but for the well-being of the world. Is there

not need of a conservation of higher things? Above the passion of war,

amidst the desolation of terrible disasters, in the dangers of the daily

occupations so many of our fellowmen must undergo to earn their

livelihood, does not the Red Cross conserve, protect, and extend the

great bond of human brotherhood, and, touched by sorrow, make the whole

world kin?

Strangely taking its inception on the field of battle, this great

international organization of the Red Cross for the conservation of

human life was born, has passed from infancy into a strong and noble

maturity ever ready to protect and preserve human life, for which the

Conservation of all material things has its reason and its purpose.

(Applause)

* * * * *

Chairman CONDRA--We shall now have the privilege of hearing the

Commissioner of Corporations, called to that responsible duty by

President Roosevelt, and continued in his responsibilities by President

Taft, Honorable Herbert Knox Smith, whom I have great pleasure in

introducing (applause).

* * * * *

Commissioner SMITH--Mr Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: My text is that

superb word "power"; and it has no more appropriate place for

enunciation than this center of gravity of imperial power, the

Mississippi valley.

In our complex civilization there are many things that are necessaries

of life. Control over any of them represents a power that is essentially

governmental. This is plainly true of basic necessaries like food,

clothing, transportation, heat, and light; it is true also of the

natural resources that are back of these. It is no less true of the

mechanical power that produces and delivers them. Private control of any

one of these, unrestrained either by business competition or by

governmental authority, means that irresponsible individuals hold a

command over the daily life and welfare of the citizen which the men of

our race have never willingly granted to any except their own

representatives chosen by them.

For us of our generation, mechanical power is a basic necessary. Our

daily existence is borne on its current, and our power demand steadily

increases. Our chief present sources of power supply--coal, petroleum,

and natural gas--although at present ample, are absolutely fixed in

quantity and cannot be replaced. Water-power is the one important source

of mechanical power now practically available which is self-renewing.

Its importance, therefore, to our present vision, must steadily

increase.

Effective restraint, imposed by competition on its control, is becoming

more and more improbable. There has been a marked concentration of

water-power control in private hands, and this process is advancing

rapidly. Public regulation of water-power, the only other alternative,

therefore, becomes a necessity.

Electric transmission has worked this change within the last decade. As

now commercially practicable, such transmission allows a given

water-power to reach a market area of at least 80,000 square miles. It

has raised water-power from purely local work, and made it the vital

energy for great communities and distant enterprises. It has brought our

water-power resources suddenly within the sweep of great economic

forces.

Within these market areas just described, there are strong practical

reasons for consolidation of water-powers--what is known as "coupling

up." A power plant must be constructed to meet the highest point of its

expected demand--the "peak of the load." The nearer the "load" (the

power demand) approaches that peak for all the time, the more fully

will the entire fixed investment be earning a return. Suppose there are

two independent power plants in two neighboring communities where the

demand in one community is mainly for power during the day time, and in

the other at night. These plants can advantageously combine, throwing

the surplus of their joint power by day to one place and by night to the

other, thus bringing their normal load in each case up nearer to the

peak. Similarly, such coupling up is obviously advantageous in two

neighboring watersheds where the excess water-power occurs at different

times. In general such combining of varying conditions to produce a

closer parallelism of supply and demand is in itself an entirely proper

industrial development. We have no reason to oppose it if accomplished

by fair methods; we must simply be prepared to regulate such

monopolistic power as may result therefrom.

The investigation of developed water-powers now being made by the Bureau

of Corporations shows that up to date 18 concerns or closely allied

interests control over 1,800,000 horsepower of the water-power developed

or in process of construction, and, in addition, over 1,400,000

horsepower of undeveloped water-power. As to undeveloped powers, this

information was secured merely as an incident to our main work, and

certainly much understates the case. As it stands, however, it makes a

total water-power controlled by these 18 groups of over 3,200,000

horsepower. The total water-power in use in the United States in 1908,

as estimated by the Census and Geological Survey, was only 5,300,000.

And this total includes a very large number of small powers which the

Bureau did not include, as it dealt almost wholly with powers of over

1,000 horsepower. The total now commercially capable of development is

variously estimated at from 30,000,000 to 60,000,000 horsepower, the

smaller figure being the preferable one. The great bulk of both

developed and undeveloped water-power lies on the Pacific Coast, in the

Northwest and Northeast, and in the South Atlantic States. Our power

demand as measured by the total unduplicated capacity of all prime

movers--steam, water, and gas--is now at least 30 million horsepower.

It is obvious that a local monopoly of power covering simply one market

area is nevertheless as complete in its effects on the inhabitants of

that area as if it covered the entire country. Conditions in separate

sections are therefore important. In California, for example, four

principal hydro-electric companies dominate the water-power industry.

They have a total developed horsepower of 259,000, with probably 500,000

additional undeveloped, and a very strong hold on the most important

power markets. And between these four concerns there is also evidence of

considerable harmony. This is not a unique case. Conditions somewhat

like this exist in the Puget Sound territory, in the southern peninsula

of Michigan, in Colorado, in Montana, and in the Carolinas. In each of

these sections, one, or at most two concerns are predominant in their

control of water-powers, public-service companies, and power markets.

The horsepower figures do not fully represent the extent of actual

commercial control. The best powers have of course been developed first.

These will always hold a disproportionately dominant position over later

developed and less favored powers, because of their lower operating cost

and prior hold on the important power markets.

There is also going on a concentration of a wider sort--a process of

deep significance, but as yet little recognized. There is a marked

progress toward a mutuality of interests among public service companies

generally, electric light, power, gas, and street railway concerns. The

significant identity of officers and directors in a large number of such

companies throughout the United States is very remarkable. This is due

in part to specialization by financial houses in given lines of

investment; in part to the common employment of certain eminent

engineering firms; and in part to relations with certain leading

equipment companies. Electric equipment is usually supplied by one of a

few great equipment concerns and frequently paid for, at least in part,

in the securities of the proposed project. Thus the equipment company

acquires interests in widely separated power and light concerns.

Take a single example, the General Electric Company, the most powerful

electric equipment concern in the world. Men who are officers or

directors of the General Electric Company, or of its three wholly

controlled subsidiary companies, are also officers or directors in many

other corporations. These other companies, with their subsidiaries, and

the General Electric with its subsidiaries, make thus a group

interconnected by active personal and financial relationship. This one

group includes 28 corporations that operate hydro-electric plants, with

at least 795,000 horsepower developed or under construction, and 600,000

undeveloped in 16 different States, a total of 1,395,000 horsepower

(equal to more than 25 percent of all the developed water-power in the

United States in 1908). This group includes also over 80 public-service

corporations, not counting their minor subsidiaries; more than 15

railroads; 6 companies that use their power in the manufacture of cotton

goods, with 35,000 hydraulic horsepower developed; and over 50 banks and

financial houses, many of them in the first rank of importance. This

remarkable financial connection in itself is very significant.

Fifty-three General Electric men, in all, constitute this chain of

connection. Nor are these men, as a rule, of the figurehead type; their

presence on a directorate means something. Of course these facts in no

sense always mean identity of control. They certainly do mean a striking

degree of non-conflicting interests and personal relationship which

makes further concentration easily possible.

This wider concentration is still in a formative stage, developed almost

wholly within the last decade. The forces compelling thereto are still

operative. It is like a physical solution of chemical elements which is

still in suspension but which a single jar may precipitate into

crystallization. Water-power, being naturally allied with public-service

business, will be included in any movement that affects that business

generally. So wide is this interrelationship, and so comparatively few

are the constantly recurring names in the directorates, that a few brief

conferences, given the necessary impetus, might conceivably at any

moment concentrate into definite legal form a sweeping control over the

dominant water-powers of the country, as well as their related public

service interests.

Here, then, is the present situation of the hydro-electric industry:

(1) It deals with a basic necessary, and its importance inevitably

increases as the fixed supply of other sources of power decreases.

(2) Substantial control of mechanical power means the exercise of a

function that is essentially governmental in its effect on the public.

(3) Driven by underlying economic and financial forces, concentration of

control of water-powers in private hands has proceeded very rapidly. It

is doubtful if anything can arrest this process, and a swift advance to

a far higher degree of concentration is entirely possible.

(4) Any chance, then, of restraint by competition is rapidly

disappearing, certainly over given sections, and public regulation is

therefore an imminent necessity.

The extent of such regulation will depend mainly on constitutional

limitations. A State, roughly speaking, can at any time exercise a high

degree of control over power companies as quasi-public servants. The

jurisdiction of the Federal Government covers a wider range

geographically, but involves some difficult constitutional questions.

Over water-powers on the public lands it has full control. I concede no

merit to doubts as to the Government's unlimited jurisdiction there.

As to powers on navigable streams not in the public domain, there is an

undetermined constitutional question. It is well settled that no power

dam can be maintained on a navigable stream without the consent of the

Federal Government. Nearly everyone admits that the Government may

impose upon such grants any desired time limitation, and may thus

require readjustment of terms at any desired period. But some hold that

the Federal Government, in exercising its arbitrary power as grantor,

may also impose any further conditions it chooses upon such grant, as,

for example, that the grantees shall pay a rental for the power

acquired. Others hold that the Federal Government can only impose such

conditions as are directly connected with the Federal power over

interstate commerce, such as navigation. Even this view would apparently

at least permit a rental charge, if applied to navigation improvement.

Personally, I am strongly inclined to the former and broader view that

any conditions whatsoever may be imposed (applause), both on general

principles and on well-established legislative precedents. In numerous

bridge and dam acts Congress has used the broad power and imposed

conditions in no way related to interstate commerce. In the California

Debris Commission Act, operative since 1893, Congress imposed a straight

charge on placer miners for the privilege of emptying their refuse into

the streams.

The scope of the Federal jurisdiction is of first importance, because

the water-power problem is, in the main, a National one. Much of the

power is transmitted across State lines, or is used by interstate

carriers. The bulk of the capital that is developing our most important

powers comes from interests outside the States where the powers are

located, and from the brief survey I have already given of the

interrelationships existing between public-service companies it is

obvious that State lines and State jurisdiction have no practical

relation whatsoever to the sweep of these forces (applause). The

hydro-electric industry has been largely nationalized by those who are

foremost in it.

The Nation and the State will have to use their full powers to meet the

water-power situation. The most effective time to use them is before,

not after, private rights accrue. The one certain method is for the

State or the Federal Government, to retain its interest, or impose its

conditions, at the inception, as a part of the grant. Then public

control and private rights go together, as they must if we are to

safeguard the public interest in water power. (Applause)

Let there be no unnecessary hampering of hydro-electric development, but

let the public be in on the ground floor at the start: for at the start

the public must grant the power and for all time the public will be the

party chiefly interested in its use. (Applause)

As President Taft very justly said yesterday, when a man talks to you

about conservation, you have the right to ask him to specify what steps

he desires to take. I am going to specify.

(1) The _status quo_ of all water-power still controlled by the Nation

or State should be maintained until we know what we have, and can act

intelligently thereon.

(2) No water-power grant should be made except for a fixed period, with

at least the reserved right to readjust terms at the end thereof. That

period, however, should be long enough to permit adequate financing and

complete development.

(3) Complete publicity of accounts and transactions should be required,

as well as a record of cost, and the real relation of investment to

stock and bond issues.

(4) Power to revoke the grant for breach of conditions should be lodged

in a specified public authority. Otherwise there will always be the

possibility of protracted litigation to determine the status.

(5) So far as is possible, direct provision should be made against

excessive charges and monopolistic abuse.

(6) Public authorities should reserve such constitutional compensation

or rental as will establish the principle of underlying public interest.

(7) All public easements of navigation, fisheries, etc., should be

safeguarded.

(8) In the case of new grants, all these provisions should be made

conditions of the grant.

Finally, the purpose and probable effect on the public of any

water-power grant should first be fully ascertained and carefully

considered, in order to determine whether public interest justifies

beyond a reasonable doubt the surrender by the public of even a part of

its power over this great public resource. Where reasonable doubt

exists, the surrender should not be made. (Applause)

* * * * *

[During the delivery of the address President Baker arrived and resumed

the Chair.]

* * * * *

Honorable JOHN BARRETT--Ladies and Gentlemen: President Baker has

requested me to announce that Professor George E. Condra, of Lincoln,

Nebraska, has been appointed chairman of the Committee on Credentials in

lieu of Mr Edward Hines, of Chicago. (Applause)

Governor Pardee has an announcement to make in regard to the Committee

on Resolutions.

Governor PARDEE--Simply that the Committee on Resolutions will meet at

the Saint Paul hotel this evening at 8 oclock, in Room 534.

President BAKER--The program in your hands announces that an address

entitled "Safeguarding the Property of the People" will be delivered by

Honorable Francis T. Heney, of California. He is prevented from being

here this afternoon, but will arrive later.

We have now the opportunity of hearing from one whose name has been so

closely associated with the work of Conservation that he is regarded as

one of its greatest and ablest advocates; I have great pleasure in

introducing, to speak on "The Federal Government's Relation to

Conservation," Honorable James R. Garfield, of Ohio. (Applause)

Mr GARFIELD--Mr President and Delegates, Ladies and Gentlemen (renewed

applause): I appreciate your applause at this time very much, for I fear

me at the end of what I have to say it may not be forthcoming.

The subject I have chosen is one that affects very directly what may not

merely be talked about but can actually be done by the people of this

country in connection with Conservation problems. It was often said a

few months ago that Conservation was an enthusiasm--that it was an idea,

or perhaps an ideal, and that those who were urging Conservation were

not practical men and looking forward to practical work-a-day solutions

of their own problems. So I chose to speak on the relation of the

Federal Government to Conservation--a very practical subject, one on

which we have been working, as well as talking, for a number of years.

There are two good reasons why the Federal Government is directly

interested in Conservation. In the first place, it is the largest

land-owner in this country; and, in the second place, it has high duties

to perform for the interests of all the people of this country. For

these reasons, the Federal Government comes directly in touch with the

practical questions of Conservation in dealing with what is left of the

natural resources of our public domain. The value of these resources

cannot be measured in mere terms of acres. Some 700,000 acres of our

public lands remain; but that means nothing unless we know what is

contained in or on the land represented by the mere statement in

figures. Now we are learning that this great area, both on the mainland

and in Alaska, is filled with priceless treasures in the resources

needed for the lives of the people of our country; and it is in the

handling of these resources--either disposing of them or providing for

their use or development--that the Federal Government must deal

practically with the problems of Conservation. Only as we know this

tremendous area and its priceless treasures do we realize that we must,

in the practical handling of these resources, make as few mistakes as

possible, and constantly keep in view the interest of all the people as

a guide in the solution of any given problem.

Now, we meet with serious difficulties in attempting to decide how best

to use the property owned or held by the United States Government as

trustee for all the people. We have under our system of government a

dual jurisdiction, or rather, two jurisdictions--that of the Nation on

the one hand, and that of the State on the other. Yet between these two

jurisdictions there is no real conflict; there ought to be no

insuperable obstacle to such cooperation between States and Nation as

will make possible a wise solution of all questions in which both

jurisdictions have duties to perform. We hear much about States' rights,

as though the problems of Conservation have brought to life again an old

doctrine, as though in some way the Conservationist is endeavoring to

take something away from the States. The very opposite is true. There is

no effort on the part of the Conservationist to interfere with any duty

that the State ought to and can perform. Those duties devolving on the

States should be performed by the States; and the people of each

commonwealth should see to it that their State representatives not only

do what is wise and necessary each year but exercise foresight in

dealing with all resources subject to their jurisdiction (applause).

That, however, does not mean that the Federal Government is debarred

from proper use of the public domain within the areas of the several

States; it likewise has great duties devolving on it in so administering

its property as to safeguard the interests and the rights of all the

citizens of the country. The State lines are merely accidental in many

instances. The States of the old Northwest and the States of the Middle

West today were carved out of public territory simply by drawing of

lines; they were not political entities in the first instance, but a

few people got together and agreed that so many square miles of

territory would be made into a State, and whether that State line was

drawn here or a hundred miles over there should not determine how we are

to deal with the public resources contained within the area.

In the early period of our development there was but little need of

giving heed to the questions that are now uppermost in our minds in

relation to the public domain. There was land enough and to spare; and

the early purpose of the Federal Government was to provide easy methods

for getting the public domain (which in those days was considered

chiefly useful for agriculture, as it is in the middle West) into farms,

and building up commonwealths that are now theatres of agricultural

industry. But today the conditions are very different. The remaining

agricultural land that can be used without irrigation or drainage is

very little in comparison to the needs of our people; and in handling

what is left of the public domain it becomes the duty of the Federal

Government to see to it that not one acre of land that can be used for

agricultural settlement and development is directed to any other

purpose--and likewise to see to it that land capable of mineral

development or of water development is not stolen from the public domain

under the guise of homestead entries. (Great applause)

In order to understand exactly what the Federal Government can do in

relation to the use of the public domain, let us keep clearly in mind

the powers granted to it under the Constitution, and the laws enacted in

accordance with the Constitution by Congress. The Constitution provides

that--

The Congress shall have power to dispose of, and make all

needful rules and regulations respecting the territory and

other property belonging to the United States.

The executive power shall be vested in a President of the

United States of America.

* * * he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed.

Now, in accordance with the provisions of the Constitution, the Congress

has enacted the following laws affecting the public domain:

The Secretary of the Interior is charged with the supervision

of public business relating to * * * the public lands,

including mines.

The Commissioner of the General Land Office shall perform,

under the direction of the Secretary of the Interior, all

executive duties appertaining to the surveys and sale of the

public lands of the United States, or in anywise respecting

such public lands.

The Commissioner of the General Land Office, under the

direction of the Secretary of the Interior, is authorized to

enforce and carry into execution by appropriate regulations,

every part of the provisions of this title [the public land

laws] not otherwise specifically provided for.

Congress, acting under these general provisions, has from time to time

enacted laws affecting portions of the public domain. It has provided

the Homestead Act, the Timber and Stone Act, the Mineral Entry Act;

provided for the creation of the National Forests; enacted laws

relating to the use of the public domain for reservoir sites, for

pipe-lines, and for transmission lines; and as the needs of each

generation have been made known, Congress, acting for the interests of

all the people, has enacted direct legislation for the purpose of

providing method for the disposition and use of the public domain.

Meantime, the Executive on his part has performed the duties devolving

on him under the Constitution--duties few in number and easily

expressed, though of great importance to the public welfare. They are,

in brief, to see to it that the laws of the United States are faithfully

executed; and he is granted all the executive power that could have been

given by the use of the English language. There is no limitation. It is

simply "executive power"; whatever that may be was granted to the

President of the United States.

One of the great objects for which this Nation was created was to

promote the "general welfare." That object was not only stated in the

preamble of the Constitution, but was likewise written into the body of

the instrument; and the power was specifically granted to Congress to

provide for the general welfare of the United States. That was not an

idle phrase. The founders of the Republic recognized that it was

impossible for them to foresee all the things that it might be necessary

for the Federal Government to do; it was not possible for them to define

in specific language all the powers that were to be exercised, nor was

it possible for them to indicate to what extent these powers, once

granted, might properly and wisely be used; and this welfare clause has

made it possible to carry out by both the Legislative and the Executive

branches of the Federal Government the beneficent purposes of the

founders in ways which they never contemplated or could have

contemplated in detail. Fortunately, during the early days of our

National existence we had at the head of the Supreme Court a master

mind. Marshall was as profound a statesman as he was a great jurist. He

recognized with that great far-seeing insight that amounts almost to

inspiration, that it would have been to sound the death-knell of the

Republic if he, as the chief law interpreter from the judicial seat,

should so interpret the Constitution as to tie the hands of the

Government and prevent the people from doing the things necessary to

make themselves a great and permanent Nation. In one of the earliest

decisions involving interpretation of the Constitution (McCullough vs.

Maryland. 4 Wheaton 315) Marshall used this language:

Let the end be legitimate, let it be within the scope of the

Constitution, and all means which are appropriate, which are

plainly adapted to that end, which are not prohibited but

consistent with the letter and spirit of the Constitution, are

constitutional.

Another sentence in the same opinion sets a standard for judging

existing or proposed law; he says--

But where the law is not prohibited, and is really calculated

to effect any of the objects entrusted to the Government, to

undertake here to inquire into the degree of its necessity

would be to pass the line which circumscribes the judicial

department and tread on legislative ground. This court

disclaims all pretensions to such a power.

Clearly, Marshall saw at that time that if the Supreme Court endeavored

to prevent Congress from exercising to the full a power granted under

the Constitution, it would at that very moment overstep its legitimate

ground and interfere with the functions granted to the legislative body;

and in dealing with the powers granted to the Executive, exactly the

same rule of interpretation applies. Now, it is most interesting to

notice how from generation to generation Marshall's interpretation has

made possible the doing of the things that have been done by our people.

In those days it was impossible for men to conceive of the commercial

development that has taken place during the hundred years. They could

not have realized that within a hundred years we would be a great

manufacturing Nation, and that our commercial relations would not be

confined to the thirteen colonies but would spread broadcast throughout

the entire world.

A striking example of the application of this wise interpretation arose

in dealing with the questions of the Philippine government. We there had

an entirely novel proposition. The forefathers of the Republic had never

contemplated the acquisition by us of territory in the Pacific, or

islands elsewhere. Yet when we faced that problem, we found that under

Marshall's interpretation, our Constitution was broad enough and big

enough, and the powers granted therein were great enough, to permit us

to fulfill the Nation's duty to the islands and islanders. President

Taft, discussing our work in the Philippines, used this language three

years ago:

It is said that there is nothing in the Constitution of the

United States that authorizes National altruism of that sort.

Well, of course, there is not; but there is nothing in the

Constitution of the United States that forbids it. What there

is in the Constitution of the United States is a breathing

spirit that we are a Nation, with all the responsibilities that

any Nation ever had, and therefore when it becomes the

Christian duty of a Nation to assist another Nation, the

Constitution authorizes it because it is part of National

well-being.

That interpretation of the power of both the Executive and the Congress

is exactly in line with the power that is exercised by both in dealing

with this question of the public domain and the welfare of our people

(applause). It would be a childish interpretation of the Constitution to

hold that we as a Nation could act for the people in the Philippine

Islands as was best necessary for their well-being, and yet within our

own confines as a Nation would be prohibited from doing that which is

necessary for the well-being and the welfare of our children and their

children. (Applause)

The interpretation by Marshall gave vigor to the young Nation. He was

not afraid of great responsibilities. He recognized that great

responsibilities likewise meant the possibility of great mistakes, but

that did not deter him from so interpreting the Constitution as to make

possible the doing of the things that have been done. He was not of

that class of timid folk who fear to exercise great power lest they may

make a mistake. He was not that type, either as statesman or jurist, who

because they do not see plainly written in the Constitution specific

authority for the doing of every act necessary, therefore hold back and

maintain that no such authority exists. This is the type of mind that

prevents all progress. The timid man is often side by side with the

dishonest man, because the timid man refuses to act from fear while the

dishonest man raises the cry, "There is no power," in order to gain for

himself that to which he is not entitled, or to escape Governmental

jurisdiction or evade governmental regulation of any character.

(Applause)

But we are not left simply to academic discussion as to whether the

Federal Government has power to deal with the National domain. The

Supreme Court has held, over and over again, that the Federal

Government, acting through both the Legislative and the Executive

branches, has the power to do what is best for the people's interests in

handling the public domain. The Court has wisely and properly held that

the power granted under the Constitution to dispose of the public domain

carries with it every lesser power (applause)--that because Congress has

the right to provide for the sale or the gift of land, it can likewise

provide for the lease of land under such conditions and regulations as

it may prescribe or as it may permit the Executive to prescribe.

Therefore, the way is clear for the Federal Government to do whatever

may be wise and necessary to protect the interests of the people in the

use of the public domain.

Let us take another view of Executive authority. The chief Executive,

above all other officers, is recognized and properly held as the great

steward, the immediate custodian of the public property and of the

people's rights. He is single-headed. He is one upon whom responsibility

may be fixed. He is constantly at his desk; he is ever vigilant; he is

constantly in touch with the things that interest the people and their

rights therein; and as the custodian and guardian of the people's

interests, it is to him that we must look for the protection of the

public domain. It is not enough that the Executive shall simply carry

into effect the specific language of a statute. He must go farther than

that; he must be as aggressive in his vigilance as are those who would

take the public property without conforming to the law (applause). The

Executive is required to see to it that the laws are enforced. Now, in

the enforcement of law he often finds that while the paper record

presented to him or to his subordinates by those who seek to acquire the

public domain is perfect (there is no difficulty about making a land

title good on paper) his duty is only partially fulfilled unless he goes

behind the paper record; and when the last Administration took hold of

the question of the land frauds, the Executive decided that there was

but one way to enforce the law, and that was to see to it that the paper

record conformed to the facts in every case presented (great applause).

The greatest land frauds that have been perpetrated against the people

of the United States were perpetrated because the public officers in

years past did not make that direct, careful investigation of the facts

and of the condition of the lands which would have enabled them to save

for the people hundreds of millions of dollars of valuable property that

in the last generation has gotten illegally into the hands of the big

interests. (Applause)

The founders of our Republic recognized and understood the vital need of

giving ample power to the Executive. It is well to recall what Hamilton

wrote when defending the Constitution:

Energy in the Executive is a leading character in the

definition of good government. It is essential to the

protection of the community against foreign attacks; it is not

less essential to the steady administration of the laws; to the

protection of property against those irregular and high-handed

combinations which sometimes interrupt the ordinary course of

justice; to the security of liberty against the enterprises and

assaults of ambition, of faction and of anarchy.

There can be no need, however, to multiply arguments or

examples on this head. A feeble Executive implies a feeble

execution of government. A feeble execution is but another

phrase for a bad execution, and a government ill-executed,

whatever it may be in theory, must be, in practice, a bad

government.

Thus the Executive must be held responsible for much that is done in

connection with the administration of our laws. Congress enacts the

laws; they may be faulty; if so, they may be amended. If they are

faulty, it is the duty of the Executive to carry them into effect, but

to recommend their amendment, alteration, or repeal; but under no

circumstances is he fulfilling his duty if he sits supinely by and

allows the public domain to be despoiled because the law is not as

efficient as he thinks it should be. (Applause)

Much has been said in recent years regarding Executive usurpations. It

has been held by those who objected to the new order of things--those

who objected to that change in methods by which the public frauds were

stopped--that the Executive was usurping powers not granted to him under

the Constitution. Now, if it be usurpation to so enforce the law as to

prevent dishonesty, fraud, and theft, then there has been usurpation

(applause). But I as yet have failed to have presented to me a single

instance of actual usurpation. The Executive is as much subject to the

courts of the United States as is the ordinary citizen. If the Executive

has transcended his power, if he has in his execution of law gone beyond

what someone thinks is his power, then the Executive can be haled into

court; and over and over again I have said to complainants who came to

me when I was in office "All you have to do is to go into the courts of

the United States, and if the Executive power that is being exercised is

improperly exercised, there in that jurisdiction you can bring us to

account." But no one has yet seen fit to bring such an action; and the

reason is that there has been no usurpation of executive authority.

(Applause)

There is a wide difference between simply being within the law and

executing the law. A man may be within the law and yet do absolutely

nothing to further the spirit of the law; like an engineer, he is on the

track whether he is standing still, going backward, or going forward;

but I take it that what we want in executive office is an engineer who

stays on the track yet is constantly driving forward the engine

(applause). We may rest assured that those who are seeking to acquire

the public domain will not be idle if the Executive is standing still.

(Applause)

That brings me again to a subject mentioned a moment ago, namely the

relation of the Nation to the States; and the Executive here plays an

important part. An example will show how the executives of both the

Nation and the States should cooperate in working out any given problem:

A great water course is a natural entity; the water-shed must be

considered as a unit--otherwise the people within that water-shed will

not have equal justice done them in their right to the water. For

example, the waters of the Rio Grande rise in Colorado; they cross the

line into New Mexico; they then become the dividing line between Mexico

and Texas. If we admit for a moment that the power to use and control

all the water of the Rio Grande shall be left solely with Colorado

because it rises in the great mountains of that State, then we instantly

jeopardize the rights of all the people who live south of the Colorado

line (applause). If the Chief Executive of the Federal Government had

feared to exercise his power to prevent water-power sites and reservoir

sites in Colorado from being taken exclusively by Colorado people; if he

had been unwilling to exercise the power granted him by the

Constitution, then the people below would have had just cause for

complaint that the Executive instead of obeying the law was in effect a

party to a violation of law in jeopardizing their rights. The only way

in which that matter could properly be handled was for the Executive of

the Federal Government to withdraw certain lands from sale or entry; and

by so doing he made it possible for the people of New Mexico and Texas,

and of the Republic of Mexico in conformity with the treaty made by the

Federal Government, to have their fair share and just proportion of the

use of that water.

The best way to deal with conflicting water rights between States is for

the Federal Government to continue to hold every acre of public land

capable of use in water development pending agreement with the various

States as to how the lands shall be used, to the end that the rights of

all the people of each water-shed, rather than the special interests of

a few, shall be protected in the use and disposition of that great

resource. (Applause)

What I have said in relation to water applies equally to the development

of our coal, our phosphates, and our timber. The phosphates recently

discovered in the West lie in four States. When the matter was first

called to my attention by the report of the Geological Survey and the

special report of Dr Van Hise, I was astonished to learn the conditions

then existing in our country. Practically all of the mineral phosphates

known in the United States were held by one great corporation, and over

40 percent of the products of the Southern mines were being shipped

abroad to be used on the fields of Europe; and the same men were already

endeavoring to get hold of the phosphate deposits in the West. Therefore

I instantly made a recommendation to the President, and he instantly

acted on it and withdrew the phosphate lands (applause). Now that

withdrawal was not an interference with the rights of the people of any

of those four States, nor was it an act of usurpation, or an improper

extension of Executive authority. It simply meant this: that we would

hold, prevent the acquisition of those lands under laws not adapted to

them, report the matter to Congress, and hold the lands until Congress

provided a method for wise disposition of them (applause). And my

recommendation was that the phosphate deposits of the country should be

disposed of only under lease and with such conditions as would prevent

export to foreign lands (applause). We need every ton of our phosphates

for our own use. (Applause)

So, if you trace the actions of the Executive and of Congress in dealing

with the public domain, you will find that wherever there has been a

vigorous execution of law coupled with recommendation of further

legislation looking to the welfare of all of our people, there we have

made advance along lines that will promote the development of our

country in future years; and that wherever there has been laxity in the

enforcement of law, wherever we have allowed the interference of big

business interests to interrupt the enforcement of law as it should be

enforced, land frauds there have crept in and in those conditions we

have found the big interests getting control of more than their fair

share of the resources of the public domain.

Sometimes we have been accused of being unfair to the big interests. We

have been accused of assailing these interests simply because they were

big; and we have been charged with raising ghosts to frighten the

people, and naming those ghosts water-power trusts, timber trusts, land

trusts, or coal trusts, when in reality there was no danger of trust

development or of monopolistic holding of these resources. And yet, my

friends, if you trace back the history of the acquisition of the public

domain you will find that in every instance where there has been a

failure to strictly enforce the laws the special interests have slipped

in and have gained control of the resources of the public domain. They

have never been idle. We ourselves have been indifferent, we have been

negligent; and it is not for us now altogether to blame the

beneficiaries of our neglect, but we must blame ourselves--and must

blame our representatives in office now if by any chance they permit a

return to the old conditions. (Applause)

The power of the Executive and of Congress is ample to do all that is

necessary to protect the public welfare and the common good. There must

be no backsliding in what has already been so splendidly started. We

must see to it that our representatives, both in the Senate and in the

House, are men who will take a long look into the future--men with

imagination. Men with enthusiasm? Yes! Nothing great has ever been

accomplished without enthusiasm and without imagination (applause). And

we want practical men who will lead us, as I said in the beginning, step

by step, to better things. Thus and thus only will the Federal

Government exercise to the full the powers granted under the

Constitution, and thus and thus only will the people of this country

safeguard their property rights, their personal and their political

rights as well, and hand down the great heritage that has come to us not

only unimpaired but in better condition than we received it. (Great and

prolonged applause)

* * * * *

President BAKER--Ladies and Gentlemen: Now that this subject has been so

ably opened by Mr Garfield, we are going to call upon another man who

has been militant in the work of Conservation--an Ex-Governor who is

even more active as an ex than he was as Governor, a sort of

characteristic, these days, of prominent men (laughter). I am sure you

will have great pleasure in hearing from Ex-Governor George C. Pardee,

of California. (Applause)

Ex-Governor PARDEE--Mr President, Ladies and Gentlemen: I hope the Chair

will forgive me if I differ from him very radically in one statement

that he made, to the effect that _all_ of us who have been things

(laughter) are now more active than we were when we were things.

(Laughter)

I sat here today in this vast Auditorium and saw thousands of men and

women and children, gathering to do honor to the man whom we, in common

with the rest of the world, consider to be the greatest American now

alive (great applause). When I saw those thousands of people filling

this great Auditorium, row on row and tier on tier, until the heads of

those standing in the topmost row touched the very roof, I thought to

myself that the activities of him who _was_ in office are being only

continued since he left the office which he filled to our entire

satisfaction. (Applause)

I come here this afternoon to discuss the very able paper so well

presented to you by him who was once Secretary of the Interior, in the

cabinet of the President of the United States (applause); and I hope you

will not consider it presumptuous that I should attempt to discuss that

very able paper. Mr Garfield was good enough to furnish me with a copy

of his address several days ago, and I am free to confess to you that I

have given it prayerful consideration and that I can find nothing in it

to discuss (applause), because it calls a spade a spade and a thief a

thief (applause); and with both of those propositions I have no doubt

the ladies and gentlemen here assembled will thoroughly and totally

agree. (Applause)

Every now and then we hear of some poor, miserable fool sent to the

penitentiary for crimes and frauds against the land laws; but will any

one be kind enough to mention to me the name of any principal in such

crimes and frauds who, with shaved head and striped suit, is looking

through the bars of the penitentiary today? I take it that you will

agree with me that the time has come when the rights and duties of the

plain American citizen should be again placed within his grasp, and that

the rights and duties of the very meanest of us should be regarded as

equal to those of the most powerful and the richest and most

influential. Our representatives have too often forgotten the fact that

they represent the great mass of the people, and that they represent

unborn generations of American citizens--that they are plowing legal

furrows and building legal fences and making things ready for the coming

generations of Americans who will fill this great land of ours.

So when I speak of my own State of California, and say that its people

have been robbed and plundered and pillaged; when I say that its

government has been debased and corrupted; when I say with shame and

with blushes that my native city of San Francisco has been humbled and

shamed into the very dust by the corrupting influences of men and

public-service corporations who, with us as their benefactors, have

turned and stung the breast that warmed them into life; when I say these

things I have but to call to your attention conditions which have

existed in almost every large city, in almost every State of this Union.

(Applause)

Like Mr Garfield, I do not find it in my heart to blame the men who have

taken advantage of our laxness; I cannot find it in my heart to blame

the two men who own each over a million acres of the best timber land in

the State of California for having taken advantage of the laxness in

administration of the law in times past--not of the law itself, for the

law has been good, and if it had been administered as it should have

been administered these two men could not have owned a million acres

apiece of the best timbered land in the State of California (applause).

But who of us has not heard--in times past more than since the time of

Theodore Africanus (laughter)--who of us has not heard those who,

perhaps with a selfish interest, have sneered and said, "Well, we're all

a little crooked, and why should we take exceptions to the man who is a

little more crooked?" when the question of frauds against the land laws

was in discussion? I take it that the officials who had those matters in

charge should be, as Mr Garfield has so well said, ever vigilant within

the law to do those things which the law does not prohibit and not wait

for the prods and stings of outraged public opinion that compel them to

do the things which they should, in common honesty to the people whom

they represent, perform and do for the protection of you and me and your

children and my children. (Applause)

I listened yesterday afternoon with mingled feelings to the statements

of the gentlemen who four short years ago I would have hailed as brother

governors. I heard some most violent utterances concerning the feeling

of the people of the Pacific-coast States in regard to State rights. One

good brother governor said that 95 percent of the people of the Pacific

Coast were in favor of State rights. We had in California on the 16th

day of August (less than a month ago) a direct-primary election. At that

election there was nominated as the republican candidate for Governor of

the State of California Hiram W. Johnson. Out of something over 200,000

votes cast he received over 100,000 votes. His next nearest opponent

received 55,000 votes. Mr Johnson's campaign was made on a platform

containing three principal planks--Roosevelt, Pinchot, and Conservation.

(Great applause) If it be necessary, I can read a telegram from Mr

Johnson in which he assures me that he has not yet recanted from his old

Rooseveltism, his Pinchotism and his Garfieldism, or his Conservationism

(applause); so I think I am safe in saying that instead of 95 percent of

the people of at least one Pacific-coast State being in favor of State

rights, I am entirely within the bounds of conservative statement if I

say that 80 percent of the people of California have not forgotten the

Civil War and remember that the ghost of State rights was laid so many

fathoms deep at that time that no ingenious argument of any Governor

from the Northwest, the Southeast, or any other portion of this country

can revive it and make it walk. (Great applause) If necessary, I could

read from this little packet that I have in my hand a portion of a

letter from the Grand Master of the Patrons of Husbandry (that is the

Grange) of the State of Washington (applause), whose Governor addressed

this Congress yesterday afternoon and declared himself and his State as

both being entirely in favor of State rights. In that letter the Grand

Master of the Patrons of Husbandry of the State of Washington, whose

Governor addressed this Congress yesterday afternoon, says that he

represents 19,000 of the people of Washington, and that no man has the

right to represent them upon the floor of this Congress and say that

they are in favor of State rights (great applause). And in this little

packet I also have a telegram from the Conservation Association of the

State of Washington, signed by its president, which says that its

membership in the State of Washington is not in favor of State rights

(applause). So, our good southern brethren having forgotten the bloody

past (as my Yankee blood has forgotten it), having come again into the

Union and declaring themselves loyal sons marching under the American

flag and having forgotten the obsolete doctrine of State rights, I think

I am safe in saying that the people of the North and Northwest have not

changed places with them, but that they believe that the Federal

Government should keep and administer the things that belong _to all the

people_ of the country. (Applause)

We have in California, my fellow-citizens of other States, a great deal

of _your_ property. We have several millions of acres of National

forests that belong to you. They cannot belong exclusively to the people

of the State of California until the people of the United States, to

whom they belong, give them to us. And I thank God that the National

Government, representing the people of other States, has not given those

millions of acres of National forests in the State of California to the

State of California. For if it had, just as sure as you are sitting

here, those acres would have been given over into private ownership,

just as thousands and hundreds of thousands of acres of the public lands

which were given to the State of California have been squandered with a

prodigal hand and given to men who have not obeyed either the letter or

the spirit of the law conveying and granting to them those hundreds and

hundreds of thousands and millions of acres of the public lands.

(Applause)

Let me instance one case. The Oregon and California Railroad begins at

Portland and runs south toward California. The California and Oregon

Railroad begins at Sacramento and runs north toward Oregon. They meet

somewhere north of the Oregon line. They are both adjuncts of the

Southern Pacific. When those roads were contemplated, the Government, by

an act of Congress, donated to them 6,000,000 acres of land, much of it

covered with as fine timber as grows out of doors--I bar none. In the

act of Congress donating that land it was specified that the land should

be sold in 160-acre tracts for $2.50 per acre to all actual settlers who

might apply therefor. Was any of it sold to actual settlers? A very few

acres of it. Half of the 6,000,000 acres was sold, however, in large

tracts to land speculators, to timber corporations, and to people of

that kind and class, for $5.00, $10.00, $15.00, $20.00, $30.00, $50.00

an acre. And when the Southern Pacific was brought to bar and asked why

it hadn't lived up to the letter and spirit of the law, it said it had.

And then we asked, "How do you make that out?" And it said, "Why, only a

few actual settlers have applied for the land." And we asked, "Haven't

people gone there and attempted to buy that land of you in order that

they might settle upon it?" "Oh, yes, but they are not actual settlers."

"Why not?" "Because we construe the words 'actual settlers' to mean

those persons who had actually settled in that country before the act of

Congress was passed." (Laughter and applause.) And when, at the

Sacramento session of the National Irrigation Congress, Mr E. H.

Harriman was asked why his company was holding 3,000,000 acres of that

land grant, he said, "For future generations." And everybody laughed.

Now, let that sink into you. The absolute arrogance, the indecent

indecency of that kind of a proposition ought to make the blood boil in

the veins of every American citizen who is face to face, or who was

seven or eight years ago face to face with the proposition whether or

not the American people were to rule themselves or whether they were to

continue to be ruled by the "big interests," as Jimmie Garfield puts it.

(Applause)

The sun rises every morning, three hundred and sixty-five days in the

year, in California; it reddens the cheeks of our girls; it makes our

boys strong and healthy; it brings the gold to the oranges that hang

upon our trees. And for all these years we have been thanking God for

the rising of the sun in California. "The gentle rain from heaven" has

fallen alike upon the just and the unjust out there in California--upon

those who deserve to be rained on and those who do not deserve to be

rained on (laughter). And all these years we have been thanking God for

the gentle rain that falls from heaven. But yesterday as I sat here in

this great Auditorium and listened to the Governor of Montana tell what

Montana had been doing for this Nation, I began to think (I do not wish

to be irreverent in saying it) that we were under no obligations in

California to God for the rising of the sun or the falling of the rain;

but that we were under great obligations to Montana (laughter and

applause) for all the good things that belong to California and

Californians. And as my good friend, Governor Norris (to put a name to

him) was telling his lurid history of Montana's great doings, I couldn't

help but think that as an American citizen some of the things that lie

in the State of Montana belong to me, belong to you, belong even to

those who live on the hook of Cape Cod or away up in the northeastern

corner of Maine or down on the tip of Florida; that those things which

belong to the people of the United States even in Montana belong to us

all, and that Montana has no exclusive right to them until our

representatives in Congress give them to that State, and I am one of

those who pray God that it will be a long time before the State of

Montana gets from us the exclusive right to, and ownership of, those

things that are ours. (Great applause)

Some time ago a good friend of mine, who has never denied when I have

charged him with receiving $20,000 per annum (and by the way, he is a

delegate from California to this Congress) as the chief counsel of one

of the power trusts of California, said to me, "Oh, how the President is

usurping the powers of the Government! Isn't it awful?" But I never

could see anything very awful about it when Roosevelt and Garfield and

Pinchot and the rest of them were hustling around trying to keep my

friend's corporation from stealing from us of California the few things

we have left (laughter and applause); nor have I forgotten that, before

the time of Roosevelt, Garfield and Pinchot, the corporations

represented by my friend did not believe in State rights. But since the

time of Roosevelt, Pinchot and Garfield they have begun to sing a

different song. That song is State rights. Nor have I forgotten that my

friend used to be and still claims to be one of the most hide-bound

republicans that mortal man ever looked upon (laughter and applause).

_Now_ he says that the rights of the people of the States are being

pillaged and plundered and robbed away from them. I speak again for my

State of California when I say that if there is anything in the State of

California that the National Government has not nailed down that has not

been stolen, I would like to know what it is. (Great laughter and

applause)

There are, as you heard Mr Herbert Knox Smith say here on this platform

an hour ago, four great power corporations in the State of California.

That is so; but there are practically only two power trusts in the

State of California. When the Government declared its intention to hold

on to the few power sites that are left in the State of California in

the National forests, all of a sudden these power trusts wanted all the

water-power of California developed in the interests of the people; and

they can't say it fast enough or often enough (laughter and applause).

But, as you heard Mr Smith say, they have developed and are using only

half of the power that they already have in their possession. So when

they get gay around where I am, I generally say, "Well, that's all

right, but go on and develop all the power you have got _now_; and after

you have got that developed, then we'll talk about giving you some more;

because I know just as sure as you fellows get an opportunity to lay

your hands on any of those power sites in the National forests you'll

steal _them_ and put them in cold storage, and you'll make my children

and their children, so long as there are any children in the State of

California, dig up the last dollar that they have to pay you for the

necessary electric current to do their business during the next century

and the century after that until the end of time in California"

(applause). And I, for one, as I say to them, while I am somewhat

hardened and calloused by being robbed myself, don't want my children or

their children to be robbed into the poor-house and the penitentiary by

anybody's power corporation (applause). Therefore I hope and pray that

those gentlemen who are so apprehensive that the people of the country

will not get, unless they get it through the States, the right to use

the things that belong to all the people of the country, will pause

until the State of Montana, the State of California, the State of

Washington, and all the Pacific-coast States, at least, if not the rest

of the Nation, are governed by the _people_ of those States and not by

the public-service corporations. (Great and prolonged applause)

* * * * *

CHRISTOPHER G. HORR--Mr Chairman: The State of Washington having been

mentioned, I wish one minute to speak in behalf of that State.

President BAKER--Is the Gentleman a Delegate from the State of

Washington?

Mr HORR--Yes. It has been stated from the platform that the State of

Washington believed in State rights. I want to contradict that. As one

of the Delegates of the State of Washington, I want to declare my belief

that not only the Granges of the State of Washington, as Brother Pardee

has stated, but the majority of the citizens of that State, will

repudiate any such sentiment coming from anyone in this Congress (great

applause and cheers). I want to say that the State of Washington is

peopled in part by 25,000 former residents of the State of Minnesota,

and that they have full confidence in the National Government--they have

full confidence in President Taft, they have full confidence in your

Senators Nelson and Clapp, and in Congressman Stevens and the other

congressmen of the United States; and I consider it an insult to the

Congress and the President of the United States to say that they will

not treat the people of the State of Washington as they should be

treated. I want to say to you, Ladies and Gentlemen, that the State of

Washington will keep step to the music of the Union. (Great applause)

* * * * *

President BAKER--After the next address on the program, any further

discussion of the subjects presented will be welcome.

It was gratifying to hear from California through the voice of

Ex-Governor Pardee. One of the fortunate features of this Congress is

the presence of men of prominence and influence from all sections of the

country. Not merely the North and the East and the West are represented,

but the sunny South; and we will be pleased to hear from a

representative of the great State of Louisiana, who has always been

deeply interested in Conservation, and is no less competent to speak on

the subject now than when he wielded the power of Governor of that

commonwealth. I have great pleasure in introducing Ex-Governor Newton C.

Blanchard. (Applause)

Ex-Governor BLANCHARD--Mr President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the

Congress: I am not on the program for a formal address, but I am here to

supplement and endorse and support the admirable address delivered you a

little while ago by Ex-Secretary Garfield. (Applause)

The times change, and men's opinions seem to change with them. On

yesterday, in this Auditorium, I listened to a number of western

Governors preaching the doctrine of State rights. For many years prior

to the fateful year of 1861, and for four memorable years following it,

the question of State rights was forcefully discussed in the forum of

the Republic, and afterward practically settled on the battlefield

(applause); and we of the South, who went down in that struggle to

determine whether these rights of the States were paramount to the

authority of the Federal Government, accepted the situation in good

faith (great applause)--and we are now marching side by side with the

North and the East and the West in that grand procession of progress

that makes for the might and power of our great Republic. (Renewed

applause)

It seems strange to a southern democrat like myself (applause) that "a

voice should come out of the West" (laughter) telling us that this

movement for Conservation must be abandoned by the Federal Government

and relegated to the tender mercies of the western States (laughter and

applause). Gentlemen of the Congress, was the question of State rights,

the _real_, genuine doctrine of State rights, behind that demand? No;

everyone of you know that it was not. It was a mere pretext; and the

history of all nations is full of examples where strong men, having

risen to ascendancy and ruling power and wanting to do something not

exactly right (some usurpation of power or act of tyranny), first sought

a pretext to justify it (applause). Why, then, does this voice come out

of the West--a country that in the time preceding and following 1861 was

known as "the wild and woolly West," and out of which at that time came

not a whisper in advocacy of State rights? Why, now that the "wild and

woolly West" has gone and magnificent commonwealths are there, now for

the first time comes from the West, in former renegade garb or present

robe of splendor, the cry that State rights must dominate the

Conservation of the natural resources of the country? Gentlemen, some

years ago a great citizen and soldier of our Republic was the candidate

of a political party for the high office of President of the United

States at a time when the tariff was the dominant issue, and becoming

involved in the intricacies and embarrassing problems of the tariff, he

declared, "the tariff is a local issue." Listening to the western

Governors last afternoon, I perceived the same idea arising again, only

in a different form; for the western Governors would make State rights a

local issue.

The natural resources of the United States belong to all the people

(applause), not alone to those who happen to live in the States where

what is left of the public domain is principally situated today; you and

I have just as much concern and interest and proprietorship in the

natural resources on and in and springing from the public domain in

Wyoming, in Montana, in Idaho, and in other western States, as have the

people of those States themselves (applause). Gentlemen, as has been

well said already during this Congress, the smaller the community the

easier it is for special interests to control it; and that is the reason

for this demand that the Conservation of the natural resources in the

western States should be turned over to the States themselves. If you

want Conservation to amount to anything--if you wish it to go forward in

the fullness of development so that what is left of the public domain,

of the coal lands, the phosphate lands, the oil and gas lands and the

forests belonging to the United States may be preserved and conserved

and utilized without present waste and handed down to our children and

children's children without exhaustion, then I say the power that should

lead in this movement is the mighty power of the Federal Government.

(Applause)

When the distinguished and able gentleman who occupies the executive

chair in the State of Montana was speaking yesterday, he claimed for his

State "the earth and the fullness thereof" in respect to the

Conservation of natural resources. He claimed that the movement there

had antedated anything done by any other State or by the Federal

Government, and to hear his eulogy of what Montana had done in this

respect and his absence of expression as to what the Federal Government

had done there, one might think, to use the vernacular of the day, that

Montana was "the whole cheese" (laughter) in matters of conservation.

And yet, when I met the gentleman today and asked him if the Federal

Government had not been doing considerable work in Montana and

expending large sums of money to irrigate the arid regions of that

State, he admitted that it had. I asked him if the Federal Government

had not expended many times more money in doing just that kind of

Conservation work in his State than Montana had, and he admitted that it

had. I asked him if what the Federal Government had already done in the

way of irrigating the arid regions of his State and the projects now

under way would not when completed yield to the farmer and the

husbandman many hundreds of thousands of acres of valuable land, and he

admitted it would and that the aggregate would be more than 600,000

acres (applause). That is what the Federal Government has done and is

doing in one western State; and yet that same Governor, and others from

the West, advocate that in the matter of Conservation the Federal

Government should take a back seat, and permit the States to take the

lead in Conservation.

Gentlemen, you heard today from the lips of Theodore Roosevelt a truth

that struck me most forcibly, and that was this: It is not so much the

question as to who shall take the lead in the matter of Conservation,

whether it be the power of the States or the authority of the Federal

Government, but which of these powers is best equipped and most able to

keep what remains of the public domain and the natural resources from

falling into the hands of the special interests and the monopolists

(applause). Some of those western Governors, when the imputation was

made that if the natural resources were turned over to the States in the

manner proposed by them the special interests might handle their

legislators, grew virtuously indignant; and yet all of us remember that

it has been charged time and time again--and I think no one will have

the temerity to deny it--that powerful interests with unlimited money

have put forward their own selections for the high office of Senator of

the United States and elected them (applause). That has been done

repeatedly in the past; and is anyone here bold enough to say that even

now there does not sit in the Senate of the United States men from the

western States who owe their election to that position through the

instrumentality of money? (Applause) No; that is true; and everyone of

you knows it is true. If the Legislatures--and I do not mean to imply or

to charge that the Legislatures of those particular western States are

any more corrupt or more subject to the blandishments of corporations

and men of means than the Legislatures of other States, whether they be

North or South or East or West--can be induced through those

instrumentalities to elevate men to high position, then I say those

Legislatures can be controlled by the same means in other respects; and

all of us know that special interests have always out a grabbing hand

for what there is in the way of coal lands, in the way of water-power

sites, in the way of phosphate lands and oil and gas lands. So I say,

gentlemen of the Congress, we had better leave this matter of

Conservation in the hands of the Federal Government to lead in this

great work wherever the Conservation relates to the natural resources

springing from the public domain. I am here to advocate that first; and

I am here to say that in other respects, where the State authority finds

jurisdiction, there should be cooperation between the States and the

Federal Government. (Applause)

We have heard much from these western Governors in their speeches last

afternoon relative to the waters in the rivers of their States, and the

position was taken that the waters belong to the States. Flowing through

the public domain, the land and the water-power sites would belong to

the Federal Government, and where that is the case there is good ground

for cooperation; but I am far from admitting that those waters belong to

the States. There are some decisions of the Supreme Court that so

declare, but such decisions were made by the courts under peculiar

circumstances and facts differing from the circumstances and facts set

before us in the matter of Conservation. Take the great Mississippi; to

whom does the Mississippi river belong? Do its waters belong to the

States through which those waters flow? Why, don't you know that every

drop of water precipitated from the clouds, except that which is taken

up by evaporation, every drop of rainfall from the top of the

Alleghenies to the summit of the Rocky mountains finds its way through

the innumerable channels and smaller streams to the great main trunk

that we call the Mississippi river? Don't you know that it is the

receptacle for the drainage of half of this great Republic of ours, that

much of even the waters that fall in the western part of the great State

of New York find their way into the channel of the Mississippi? All of

the water thus gathered into the main channel flows by the cities of all

the States from Minnesota down to Louisiana, my own State; and all of

that water flows through the State of Louisiana to find lodgment at last

in the Mexican Gulf. Now, does all the water thus garnered from this

immense watershed to flow through the State of Louisiana belong to the

State of Louisiana? If so, _we don't want it_! (Laughter and applause)

It fell on these great western States, and too much of it comes down

upon us, and we have had a great struggle, extending through many years,

to keep that water off our land (laughter). I have known one great flood

in Louisiana to cause destruction to the extent of ten millions of

dollars. The State of Louisiana alone has expended, by State taxation

and levee district taxation, more than thirty millions of dollars since

the War in keeping the waters that fell upon your territory off our

fertile lands (applause); and not being able to perform the herculean

task ourselves, we have appealed, in season and out, to the Federal

Government for aid, and a liberal hand has been extended to us.

(Applause)

I was for years in Congress from Louisiana and for years a member and

chairman of the committee on rivers and harbors of the House of

Representatives, and I had to deal with this question. When I went first

to Congress the idea prevailed there that the Federal Government had no

constitutional authority to appropriate and expend money on Mississippi

river except in aid of navigation; it was admitted that could be done

under the commerce clause of the Constitution, but Congress denied that

it owed any other duty to the river. Myself and others from the lower

Mississippi valley, the lands of whose constituents were flooded every

now and then by the great river, contended that Congress owed a two-fold

duty to the river: to improve its navigation, and to prevent the waters

from remaining a terror to those who lived in its lower valley

(applause). Congress admitted it owed the first duty, but asked where

there was any constitutional authority for the appropriation of public

money to redeem private property from the flood and ravages of the

river; and it took the representatives and senators from the lower

valley States many years--I know I worked at it myself for ten years, in

season and out, as a member of Congress--to demonstrate that the Federal

Government owed it to the great river to prevent its floods as well as

to improve its navigation. In answer to the demand for constitutional

authority we cited a principle of law, recognized alike by the civil law

system and by the common-law, which long antedated the Constitution of

the United States, a principle embodied in a Latin maxim, "_Sic utere

tuo ut alienum non laedas_"--so use your own that it shall not become an

injury to others (applause). And we asked in that connection, "Who owns

the Mississippi river? Does the Federal Government own it? If so, it is

its property as a great feature of our country; and if the

proprietorship of the river is in the Federal Government, then should

not the Government so regulate and control its own that it will not

injure or prove a detriment or damage to those who live in the lower

valley?" (Applause) And that argument won.

Prior to 1892, large appropriations were made by Congress for the

Mississippi river, all of them with a proviso that none of the money

should be expended for the purpose of preventing the floods of the

river; and not a dollar was available for the repair and construction of

levees. That was the situation in 1882 and on down to 1892, when the

argument that the river belonged to the Federal Government and it must

so regulate and use it that it should not be a damage and a hurt to us

in the lower valley prevailed; and in the river and harbor bill of 1892,

at a time when I was chairman of the committee, the Secretary of War was

authorized to expend $10,000,000 on the lower Mississippi from Cairo to

the Gulf, and the restrictions and provisos that had hampered the

Mississippi River Commission theretofore in the expenditure of money for

the two-fold purpose of improving navigation and preventing floods were

removed (applause). We wrote these limitations all out; Congress had

been educated up to the point where it recognized the second duty it

owed to the great river in preventing its floods. The bill passed, and

the Mississippi River Commission allotted $6,000,000 of the $10,000,000

for levee construction and repairs (applause). We followed this two

years later by another bill using the same phraseology and appropriating

$9,000,000 more, and these two great bills, carrying $19,000,000, with

no restrictions on the expenditures for the prevention of floods in the

river, have given us along the lower river the greatest and finest levee

system ever known in any age or on any river in any country--1350 miles

of levees that stay the floods of the Mississippi so that a general

flood in the river is a thing of the past; and on every mile of our 1350

miles of levees on the two banks of the river _is the stamp of the

Federal Government_. (Applause)

And yet they tell you that these waters do not belong to the Federal

Government? They admit that they belong to the Federal Government for

purposes of navigation. Congress is committed already to the principle

that the waters of the river belong to the Federal Government, because

Congress has undertaken to help us to keep those waters off of our

lands. But I go further than that; I agree with my distinguished friend

Mr Garfield that the jurisdiction of the Federal Government extends,

where the navigable waterways of the United States are concerned, far

beyond the point to which they are navigable; it extends to the

headwaters of those rivers, and for the very good reason that if the

jurisdiction of the Federal Government did not so extend, then where

these rivers take their rise some of these western States might

undertake to divert from the great Mississippi channel the water needed

to supply that river with enough water for navigation purposes. Every

river, therefore, must be treated as a unit (applause). That is the view

we take of it in the South; and in taking that view we hold to the

National idea that water, being one of those natural resources which

needs conservation in respect to its greater and wiser use, ought to be

controlled by the Federal Government. Water is one of those natural

resources that man can do nothing to add to or diminish in quantity;

the snows and the rains are the result of great cosmic action--and

fortunate it is that such is the case, for past experience in this

country shows that if man could diminish the supply he would long since

have done so by his neglect and his wastefulness. (Applause)

I have spoken long enough. I wanted to supplement, from the standpoint

of the South, the admirable remarks made by the distinguished Governor

of Mississippi on last afternoon. We of the South are hand in hand with

the Federal Government in this great question of the Conservation of the

natural resources; and we look to the Federal Government to lead in that

movement (applause). At the same time I repeat that this great movement,

so auspiciously inaugurated by Theodore Roosevelt and Gifford Pinchot

(applause), needs for its full consummation and for the realizing of the

greatest benefits possible the cooperation--with the Federal Government

leading--of the Federal Government, the States, and all the people

(applause). When we shall have brought these three great agencies into

harmonious action looking to proper Conservation, then will our country

grow greater even than it is now in all that goes to make up the might

and glory of a great nationality of the earth; our country will then

continue to present the example of a great continental republic

possessed of every variety of climate and production, whose people are

as one again, loyally devoted to the perpetuity of the Union, fearing no

foreign foe, following the pursuits of peace, serving God according to

the dictates of conscience and solving practically the great problems of

self-government. (Great and prolonged applause)

* * * * *

[In the course of the foregoing address, President Baker surrendered the

Chair to Professor Condra.]

Chairman CONDRA--Ladies and Gentlemen: Before continuing the program, a

few announcements will be made.

Ex-Governor PARDEE: I again announce that the Committee on Resolutions

will meet at the Saint Paul Hotel this evening at 8 oclock in Room 534.

Those having resolutions will please write them out, sign them, and hand

them in.

Several announcements were made on behalf of State delegations.

Chairman CONDRA: In place of Honorable B. A. Fowler, of Phoenix,

Arizona, who was to speak on "Water as a Natural Resource," I call upon

a man who has done much for the advance of irrigation, and who organized

the first National Irrigation Congress, Mr William E. Smythe, of San

Diego, California.

Mr SMYTHE--Mr Chairman, and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Congress: I am

called upon at very short notice to speak for our distinguished

president of the National Irrigation Congress on water as a natural

resource. I need not remind you how valuable this resource is. Some

years ago I went to the White House in company with a cabinet officer to

confer with the then President of the United States concerning a mooted

irrigation question. Secretary Moody presented me to President

Roosevelt, saying that I was a democrat interested in the subject of

water; whereupon the President turned to me with a smile and said,

"What! a democrat interested in _water_?" (Laughter) "Yes, Mr

President," I said, "for democrats have sense enough to know that in a

country where it seldom rains water is too valuable to drink."

(Laughter)

Water is so valuable that we want to guard it carefully as a natural

resource. I have but a moment at my disposal, and I am glad to take the

advice of the President of the United States who yesterday told us to

come out of the clouds, get down to brass tacks, and talk business. He

asked us to say what we mean by Conservation, to tell what are the evils

that we want to remedy, and explain how we propose to remedy them

(applause). In a word, the evil that we want to remedy in the arid

States of America is the great evil of permitting men to make

merchandise of the melting snow and the singing brook (applause). I

stand here to say that no man can possibly be good enough to own the

water which another man must use in order to live (applause). It may be

that private enterprise can be employed in the form of a construction

company to build the reservoir and the means of distribution; but in

that case, after our people have paid for the work, and paid for it once

and twice and three times, then the Nation should answer our prayer,

"Let my people go."

We should have joint ownership of land and water. Today we have a

magnificent construction company at work in the seventeen States and

Territories of arid America; the name of it is "The United States of

America, Unlimited." (Applause) That construction company turns the work

over to the people at actual cost, with ten annual payments, _and

without one dollar of interest_ (Applause). If the National Government

can do that with irrigation, it can do so just as wisely with power; and

if it doesn't seem wise for the National Government to do it as a matter

of public enterprise, then give us a form of construction company; but

in the end, in the day of our children and our children's children and

our remote descendants, in the name of God and in the name of humanity,

let the people own the water which is essential to their existence.

(Applause)

Just one word further. I stand here to endorse what has just been said

by one of the few real men whom California ever had the good fortune to

put into her Governor's chair (great applause). California is not for

State rights; _that_ doctrine was trampled to death fifty years ago

under the feet of a million armed men. Yesterday it raised its head and

stretched out its weird arms seeking to grasp the remnant of the natural

resources and turn them over to exploitation by private monopoly. But

that will not be permitted. I am here, my friends, to say to you, as

Governor Pardee has said, that in this great controversy--the most

momentous which has arisen in this country since the close of the Civil

War--California and the Pacific slope, and I believe all the splendid

States of the Rocky mountain region, stand with that fine young American

statesman who during the past few months has thrilled this nation in his

fight to save the resources of the people to all the people for the

benefit of all the people; that young man who said at Denver the other

day that it is more important to help the small man make a living than

to help the big man make a profit; that man, who has sounded the highest

notes since Lincoln, who has declared that he is in favor of Government

by men for human welfare and against Government by money for profit--we

stand first, last, and all the time with Gifford Pinchot. (Great

applause)

* * * * *

Colonel T. H. DAVIDSON (Delegate-at-large from Minnesota)--Mr Chairman:

I noticed scattered through the program of this great Congress the

words "General Discussion." We have not limited the time to be occupied

by speakers. I now move you, sir, that under the head of "General

Discussion" a delegate shall be entitled to occupy only five minutes,

and shall not speak a second time on the same question.

Chairman CONDRA--The rule adopted today fully covers the point, though

it has not been put in effect this afternoon. We have two days, perhaps

three, for full discussion, and the time will be limited under the rules

which will govern tomorrow.

The last speaker on the formal program is one who has been greatly

interested in this movement and closely associated with Mr Pinchot. I

have pleasure in introducing Mr Walter L. Fisher, a Vice-President of

this Congress and of the National Conservation Association and President

of the Conservation League of America.

Mr FISHER--Mr Chairman, and Ladies and Gentlemen: I would not take any

of your time this afternoon were it not that I, too, have felt the

appeal of President Taft for concrete and practical suggestions as to

how to solve some of the more difficult of the problems of constructive

statesmanship presented in the Conservation movement. The particular

point on which I wish to make a suggestion is the relation of the States

and the Federal Government to the question of water-power grants.

This question, it seems to me, has been allowed to assume a phase

entirely unjustified by the facts. There is, in my judgment, not only no

necessary conflict between the interests of the State and the Nation,

but there is every incentive for practical cooperation between State and

Nation on this matter (applause); and in my opinion the question can

never be rightly settled until there is just that cooperation. (Renewed

applause)

The Federal Government is the natural agency to which we must look for

many of the things which are essential to a solution. There are two

phases of the problem, one involving a question of law and the other a

question of public policy. As to the strict legal right, it must be

apparent that on any stream where the Federal Government owns the

riparian property, or on any stream which is navigable in fact or in

law, the consent of the Federal Government is absolutely necessary as a

pre-requisite to the construction of any water-power works. For myself,

I believe that the power conferred by the Constitution upon the Federal

Government with relation to interstate commerce absolutely carries the

power to make such conditions in any permit to erect a structure in a

navigable stream as the Federal Government may believe it wise policy to

insert. The power to make or to withhold the permit, under all the

decisions of the courts which have in any way touched that question,

implies the power to impose conditions to the permit. There are, I know,

those who disagree as to this proposition; but even they will agree on

the broader question of public policy which underlies the whole subject.

When the Federal Government undertakes the improvement of a navigable

stream, it rarely if ever happens that it does not thereby either create

water-power or increase potential water-power already existing. It is

evident, therefore, that those riparian owners who own existing

water-power grants are directly benefitted by the improvement in the

navigable water. Whenever the Federal Government protects the headwaters

and the water-shed on which the stream depends, it is conferring a

direct benefit upon the owners of water-power property along the line;

and so with all the other improvements.

You have heard the eloquent Ex-Governor of Louisiana explain what the

interest of that State is in the intervention of the Federal Government

in the regulation of the Mississippi river. There are few places

throughout this country where the owners of water-power grants and those

who are interested in all the other uses of flowing water have not

appealed to the Federal Government for financial aid or for assistance

not financial which that Government alone can effectively render. It

must be apparent that in rendering that assistance the Federal

Government creates property of value, or enlarges the money value of

property already existing. No hardship, then, is done if the owners of

this property are required to contribute to the original cost. Not only

so, but there can be no justice in the proposition which requires the

taxpayers of the United States as a body to pay the cost of the

improvement or the protection of any stream when as a matter of fact the

people who own the property immediately along the stream will get, in

direct money value, a larger benefit than the cost of the improvement.

There are many reasons besides these why the Federal Government _must_,

in the very nature of things, be the effective agency to do many of the

things which the States can never effectively do, no matter if the whole

subject were turned over to them this afternoon. On the other hand, I

wish to call attention to the fact, which I believe to be established by

experience, that whenever a local community is once aroused to an

intelligent appreciation of its interests and its rights, that local

community will better and more effectively regulate local service and

local rates than any more remote governmental agency whatever. Herein

lies the advantage of local home rule. Now, I am not talking about

railroad rates connected with interstate commerce, or about other things

which affect more than the local community, but about those things which

affect merely particular localities. If a water-power company starts in

alongside of a great industrial community and that community is built up

so that its industries depend on it, that community itself, once

thoroughly aroused and intelligently educated upon the question, will

far more effectively regulate those rates in the interests of the

public, while at the same time dealing fairly with the corporate or

private interests involved, than would the State or the Federal

Government. That seems to me a broad, practical proposition which

experience has justified.

Now, let us apply the principle to the water-power situation. And my

whole purpose in speaking is merely to call the attention of this

Congress to a method of treating this question, which will, in my

opinion, meet both situations. It is not a novel suggestion; in one of

the very last of the water-power grants made by Secretary Garfield, the

essential provisions of it were at least hinted at and a preliminary

provision made. In my humble opinion, the Federal Government should

control the water-power grants on streams that are navigable or where

the Government itself controls the riparian property. It should make

grants for definite periods of time and should provide for compensation.

That compensation as a broad, general rule should be applied to the

improvement and protection of the stream and the watershed from which

the water-power has been derived, or to other streams and watersheds of

like character, for all uses of the water, whether for irrigation on the

one hand or for water-power on the other. There should be periodical

readjustments of the rate of compensation. In the beginning, and

especially in an experimental enterprise, the rate of compensation

should be exceedingly low. There should be, as President Taft himself

said here in his speech, a readjustment of the rate, say every ten

years; and the person or the corporation invited to invest money should

be given proper protection in that readjustment. Capitalist and

industrial pioneer should be treated not only fairly but liberally, that

vigorous development may result. On the other hand, such a grant should

contain this provision, or be subject to this fundamental legal

limitation, that the grantee, by acceptance of the grant, acquiesces and

will acquiesce in any reasonable regulation of the service and of the

rates which may be charged the public that may be provided by the State

or by any delegated agency of the State. In that way, the thing in which

the local community (the State, its municipalities or minor communities)

has the greatest interest will be amply protected and left free to act

in its own interest.

Now, what will be the result practically? At the end of the first

ten-year period the question of readjusting the compensation will arise.

If the local government has not adequately protected private interests,

if it has not regulated the rates so that the people are obtaining power

upon fair terms and the corporation restrained from making extortionate

profits, all the Federal Government will have to do will be simply to

increase the compensation. If, on the other hand, the fundamental

question is being taken care of and the community in which the

water-power is generated and distributed is receiving it at fair terms,

the compensation can be left where it is or only slightly increased,

depending entirely on the situation.

And this has another side? The Federal Government may possibly at times

not be looking after some public interests in particular localities as

well as it should, for these same Federal officials who are elected by

the method suggested by our friend from Louisiana are the men who are

going to control a large part of the regulation of the rates by the

Federal Government; so anyone who believes that the delegation of this

question to either Federal or State authority is a final solution is

equally mistaken in either case. But the method which I suggest will

work automatically, because if either State or Nation is alive to the

people's interests they will be protected either by the imposition of

proper compensation or by the appropriate reduction of the rates.

(Applause)

* * * * *

Chairman CONDRA--Fellow-Delegates, Ladies and Gentlemen: In taking note

of the remarkable representation from all over the country in this

Congress, we should not forget that our President, Mr Bernard N. Baker,

is from Baltimore, right on the Atlantic coast and in a southern State;

and I desire to say, with a great deal of satisfaction, that a large

part of the success of this Congress is due to his unflagging efforts.

(Applause)

We shall close our formal program for the day with a brief address by

Colonel James H. Davidson, whom I now have the pleasure of introducing.

Colonel DAVIDSON--Mr Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: I shall only detain

you a few minutes to make some suggestions which seem to me pertinent.

Many delegates in this Congress seem to have it fixed in their minds

that Federal control would settle the questions before us, and other

delegates, from the Far West, seem to claim that the States should

control absolutely; and to my surprise and great pleasure, I find that

the representatives of southern States, like Louisiana and Mississippi,

are favoring Federal control. I say to you, Mr Chairman and Delegates to

this Congress, that this question is large enough and broad enough to

enlist all the statesmanship in the Federal Government and in all the

States composing the Union (applause). Reference has been made to that

great struggle of nearly fifty years ago, in which I took part for

nearly five years from private soldier to brigade commander as a full

colonel (being one of but five who advanced in rank from private soldier

to a full colonelcy); and I cannot stand up and ask as an American for

State rights as against the Federal Government (applause). But it seems

to me, Gentlemen, that there is enough for each and all of us to do; and

if we, as States, neglect the duties that devolve upon us under the

police powers, which all the States have, of regulating internal

affairs, including these manufacturing corporations and monopolies, we

are weak and are not making full use of the great privileges conferred

upon us.

I was interested very much in the discussion by Ex-Governor Pardee; and

he pointed out a fact which indicates to my mind that Federal control

_alone_ is not sufficient. He says that 6,000,000 acres of the most

valuable timber lands that ever grew on this continent were conveyed to

the Southern Pacific Railway, in a certain sense in trust, to be

conveyed to actual settlers at not less than $2.50 per acre, but that no

actual settlers ever went upon that land. It is not charged that the

State of California was in any way responsible. There was a case where

the Federal Government, and the Federal Government alone, was involved;

and yet that valuable property passed into the hands of that railroad

which is the imperial controller of almost everything in California. In

the course of the discussion yesterday in reference to the regulation of

oil and gas lands it was stated that in California alternate sections

had been conveyed to that great organization, and was out of the control

of the Federal Government. That is another case where, if California, a

sovereign State, had dealt with those things at the proper time and at

the inception, it might have been saved some of the great burdens that

now rest upon the people of that State.

They speak of four great water-power companies in California, and two

water-power trusts. I thoroughly investigated that subject, spending

over six months on it three years ago, and I found that water was king

in California, yet the water is owned by these four imperial companies.

One-half of my life and of my most valuable treasure is my son and his

family, now in the San Joaquin valley; and every crevice and canon, in

the mountains, almost, has been pre-empted by these great water-power

combinations, and it costs fifty dollars per horsepower per annum for

the use of it for pumping or for any other purpose. If the State of

California had been alert, and had had proper regulation, it would have

seen to it that these monopolies could not take possession of all these

canons and control the water-power against the interests of the people.

A board of most distinguished army engineers reported two or three years

ago that the cost of generating one electrical horsepower at the falls

of Saint Anthony--within ten miles of where I stand--was less than $6

per annum, and that in the city of Minneapolis to generate one

horsepower by steam costs $42. Is there any reason why these great

monopolies that can generate horsepower by water at an expense of from

five to six dollars--and I think in California at less--should put it to

the people at fifty dollars per horsepower? I hope that one of the

results of this Congress will be earnest cooperation between the States

and the Federal Government. Let each one be alert.

When the Civil War broke out and President Lincoln called for 75,000

men, the Governors of the different States in the North did not

hesitate, nor the Governors in the different States in the South; they

immediately began calling for volunteers, making all arrangements to

take care of the soldiers, and not an hour was lost. Governor Alexander

Ramsey, of Minnesota, tendered a regiment to President Lincoln within an

hour after the firing upon Fort Sumter (applause). It was a day for the

earnest cooperation of all the States with the Federal Government. And

we are confronting a condition of that kind, commercially and legally,

today; and it needs cooperation, without bickering and without lack of

confidence, in the most earnest manner, to pass such State laws as are

proper and right, and to pass such laws of Congress as will (so far as

the General Government has not parted with its rights) control the

streams, the lakes, the waters, and the various natural resources in the

West. (Applause)

* * * * *

Chairman CONDRA--It is now long after six oclock; and the Congress is

adjourned, to reassemble tomorrow morning at 9.30.

_FIFTH SESSION_

The Congress was called to order in the Auditorium, Saint Paul, on

Wednesday, September 7, 1910, at 9.30 a.m.

President BAKER--Ladies and Gentlemen: The State Delegations are

requested to hand the Secretary, soon as possible, the names of their

nominees for Vice-Presidents of the Congress.

The Committee on Resolutions are anxious to have all resolutions

submitted to them at the earliest possible moment in order that they may

receive full consideration.

It has been arranged to renew the Call of the States tomorrow afternoon.

The first Call of the States was made on Governors' Day (the Second

Session), when preference was given to the Governors. Delegations are

requested to have a speaker from their State prepared to respond to the

call at the Thursday afternoon session.

* * * * *

Now that Delegations are assembled, the Right Reverend Samuel Cook

Edsall, Bishop of the Protestant Episcopal Church for Minnesota, will

ask the blessing of our Heavenly Father.

INVOCATION

_O, Almighty and everlasting God, Who art the giver of every good and

perfect gift, we render unto Thee our most humble and hearty thanks for

all the blessings which Thou hast vouchsafed unto our country, for our

resources of soil, forest, mine, and stream, which Thou hast given into

our hands; and we humbly beseech Thee that Thou wilt give unto the

President of the United States, the Governors of our States, our

legislators in National Congress and in State Legislatures, and unto all

those who are in authority, as well as unto all the people whether in

public or in private station, the graces of unselfishness and wisdom;

that they may rightly use these bounties to Thy honor and glory and for

the good of all mankind; and that Thou wilt so bless and guide the

deliberations of this Congress that by all that may be here said and

done our minds may be illumined and our hearts stirred to righteousness

and obedience to Thy law--through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen._

* * * * *

President BAKER--Ladies and Gentlemen: We have with us today a truly

representative man of our Southland, Mr W. W. Finley, President of the

Southern Railway Company, who will address us on "The Interest of the

Railways of the South in Conservation." (Applause)

* * * * *

Mr FINLEY--Mr President, Ladies and Gentlemen: The interest of the

Railways of the South in Conservation and the interest of the people of

the South in Conservation are identical. I will go farther, and state my

unqualified conviction that any economic or governmental policy that is,

in the last analysis, to the best interest of the people of any

community is to the best interest of the railways by which that

community is served. Conversely, my conviction is equally strong that

any economic or governmental policy that is harmful to the railways is

harmful to the communities served by them.

Therefore, Mr President, in all that I say on the topic assigned to

me--"The Interest of the Railways of the South in Conservation"--I must

be understood as presenting what I believe to be the interest of the

southern people.

I am not sure that the expression "Conservation of natural resources" is

everywhere understood in its broadest sense. I think that to some minds

it conveys only the narrow idea of the withdrawal from present use of

some part of those resources. However important that kind of

Conservation may be in some localities and under some circumstances, I

do not believe there is much occasion for its application in the part of

the United States for which I am expected to speak--the States south of

the Ohio and Potomac rivers and east of the Mississippi. I would define

the type of "Conservation of natural resources" that should be applied

in that section as being the wise use of those resources. In some cases

it may involve a measure of present self-denial, as when, in the case of

an owner of forest lands, it impels him to cut only the matured timber

and leave standing immature trees that have a present market value; but,

in that case, it leaves him with an asset which increases in value with

each year's growth of the standing timber. In some cases Conservation

may mean the use of resources so as to obtain the maximum present

profit, as in the case of soils; for I believe that I am supported by

the best scientific and practical authority in saying that soils not

only preserve, but increase, their productivity when so handled, in the

application of fertilizers, the rotation of crops, and the growing of

live stock, as to yield the maximum present profit.

The South is interested in the application of Conservation to the wise

use to its soils, its minerals, its timber, and its streams.

Notwithstanding the wonderful industrial development of the South since

1880, it is still pre-eminently an agricultural section. It is a

section, therefore, in which the conservation of the soil is of the

highest importance. There is a prevalent belief that the productivity

of the soils in those parts of the United States that have been longest

under cultivation has been seriously impaired. Statistics do not confirm

this belief. Estimates of productions of staple crops per acre have been

compiled in the United States only since 1867, and, as there are often

wide fluctuations between successive seasons--due to differences in

rainfall and temperature--the period covered has not been long enough to

afford a basis for definite conclusions. There is also the fact that all

available figures are estimates, and consequently are not exact. On

their face, however, they do not prove a decline in productivity. This

may be illustrated by comparing the production of wheat per acre for

ten-year periods since 1867. In the decade from 1867 to 1876 the average

for the United States was estimated at 12 bushels; from 1877 to 1886,

12.5 bushels; from 1887 to 1896, 12.7 bushels; from 1897 to 1906, 13.8

bushels, and for the three years since 1906, 14.6 bushels. So far, then,

as these figures can be relied upon, they tend to show an increase in

productivity, especially as an analysis by groups of States shows the

larger and more uniform increases to have been in some of the older

sections of the country.

Similar figures for corn do not show an increase for the United States

as a whole, but they show very little decrease. From 1867 to 1876 the

average production of corn per acre was estimated at 26.2 bushels; from

1877 to 1886, 25.1 bushels; from 1887 to 1896, 24.1 bushels; from 1897

to 1906, 25.4 bushels, and for the three years since 1906, 25.8 bushels.

It is proper to note, in connection with the apparent decline in the

fourth decade as compared with the first, that the poorest yield in the

entire period was in 1901, when abnormal weather conditions brought the

estimated average for the United States down to 16.7 bushels, thus

pulling down the average for the entire decade. It is also proper to

note that Dr Whitney, Chief of the Bureau of Soils in the United States

Department of Agriculture, in discussing these figures, expresses the

opinion that, on account of a readjustment of the basis of the

Department's estimates in 1881 as a result of the reports of the census

of 1880, the figures before that year, both for wheat and corn, were

relatively too high.

Estimates of cotton yield per acre have been made by the United States

Agricultural Department since 1866. Ten-year averages for the full

decades up to 1905 are as follows: 1866 to 1875, 176.4 pounds of lint

cotton per acre; 1876 to 1885, 171.4 pounds; 1886 to 1895, 175.9 pounds;

1896 to 1905, 182.6 pounds, and for the four years since 1905, 183.1

pounds. These figures are subject to the same question as to their

accuracy that apply to the estimates of wheat and corn production, but,

on their face, they do not indicate any impairment of the productivity

of the cotton soils of the South. It is noteworthy that the larger and

more uniform increases in yield per acre shown by the Department's

figures are in the older cotton States.

While statistics of crop yields in the United States do not cover a

sufficient period to be of great value in determining the effect of long

use on soil productivity, some light is thrown on the subject by

comparing yields per acre in the United States with those in other

countries where lands have been under cultivation for centuries. Thus,

for the ten-year period from 1897 to 1906, inclusive, the average yield

of wheat per acre in the United States was 13.8 bushels, in France 19.8

bushels, in Germany 28 bushels, and in the United Kingdom 32.2 bushels.

In Germany, statistics are available from 1883 to 1906, inclusive,

showing increases in the average yields of wheat from 18.2 to 30.3

bushels, of rye from 15.4 to 25.1 bushels, and of oats from 27.6 to 55.7

bushels. Similar figures might be cited for other European countries,

but perhaps the most conclusive statistics are those collected by

Kellerman, a German student of this question, who gives the yield per

acre for a large number of German estates, covering long periods of

time. I shall cite but one of these--a Schmatzfeld estate with records

extending back to 1552. In the period between 1552 and 1557 the annual

yields reduced to bushels per acre, were, wheat 12.5, rye 13.2, barley

14.2, and oats 14.8. In the period from 1897 to 1904 these yields were,

wheat 45.1, rye 34, barley 50.4, and oats 69.1.

Taking all these figures together, I believe the conclusion is

inevitable that, while abuse of soils may impair their productivity,

their wise use increases it, and the longer they are properly used the

more productive they become. Proper use, such as conserves and increases

soil productivity, involves the most approved cultural methods, the

application of such fertilizers as may be required for varying soil

conditions, the raising of live stock, and, above all, the scientific

rotation of crops. There can be little question that the most unwise use

to which a soil can be subjected is the raising of the same crop for a

long series of years. Some very interesting experiments in continuous

cropping and crop rotation, covering a period of sixty-five years, have

been carried on at Rothamsted, England. On one plot potatoes were grown

for fifteen years. At the end of that period the soil was in such

condition that it would not grow potatoes at all. It was then planted in

barley, and produced an excellent yield. Another crop followed the

barley, and the soil was then in condition to grow potatoes again. On

this same experimental farm wheat has been sown for fifty years on the

same land without fertilizers, and the yield has gone down from 30

bushels to 12 bushels. On another tract wheat has been grown

continuously for fifty years with the use of a complete fertilizer, and

an average yield of about 30 bushels has been maintained. On another

tract wheat has been grown for fifty years in rotation with other crops

and an average yield of 30 bushels has been maintained, showing that,

for growing wheat on that particular soil, rotation was equivalent to

fertilization. As might be expected, the Rothamsted experiments show the

best results where fertilizers are used in connection with rotation, and

justify the conclusion that under continuous use, with proper rotation

and an intelligent use of fertilizers, soil productivity can be largely

increased.

This is a matter of particular interest to the South, because with our

advantages of soils and climate we have an ideal region for soil

conservation through crop rotation and intensive farming. There is a

quite general impression throughout the North that, except for a few

localities in which early fruits and vegetables, tobacco, and sugar cane

are grown, the South is a one-crop region devoted exclusively to cotton.

This is entirely erroneous. There are many localities in the

southeastern States where cotton is not grown at all, and every acre of

land in the cotton belt is suited for growing other crops as well.

Cotton will continue to be the great staple crop of the South, and with

the ever-increasing demand for cotton goods of all kinds, its

cultivation will become increasingly profitable, but the southern cotton

planter is learning the value of crop rotation; diversified farming and

live-stock raising are becoming more general, and the increased supply

of cotton demanded by the world will be produced by increasing the

average productiveness of each acre as well as by increasing the

acreage.

Other things being equal, the conservative use of a raw material,

whatever it may be, consists in its manufacture, in the locality of

production, through all the stages of preparation for the final

consumer. Manufacturing in the South has reached its present growth and

is being still further developed on the basis of this kind of

conservation of raw material. Industrial development in the South on a

large scale may be said to date from about 1880, prior to which time

only relatively a small proportion of the raw materials available in

that section were advanced through even the first stages of manufacture

before being shipped to other localities. It is natural that, at first,

only the coarser, and what may be termed the preliminary, processes

should have been undertaken. This was the first step in the conservation

of raw materials by their manufacture near the source of supply. The

South has gone far in that direction, and has already started on the

second step, which is the use of the products of primary manufacturing

as the raw materials for secondary industries. But a large proportion of

southern cotton mill products, lumber, pig-iron, and other commodities,

advanced through the first stages of manufacture, are still shipped out

of the South to serve as the raw materials of industries in other

localities which convert them into articles ready for the final

consumer; and southern coal is shipped to serve as the raw material for

power and heat in other parts of the United States and, to some extent,

in foreign countries. This is a waste of energy which, under ideal

conditions of Conservation would be avoided; and I am glad to be able to

say that the present tendency of industrial development in our section

is in the direction of its elimination. Substantial progress has already

been made in the building up of secondary manufacturing along some

lines, and I believe that the most noteworthy progress of southern

industrial development in the immediate future will be in this

direction, carrying with it an increase in the volume of primary

manufacturing through broadening the market for its products.

One of the most valuable of the natural resources of the South is its

timber. It is also a resource of which the intelligent conservation will

benefit, directly and indirectly, the largest number of people. We have

in the southeastern States large and growing industries which use wood

alone, or wood in combination with iron, steel, and other materials, as

their raw materials. Some of these industries, such as the manufacture

of furniture, have enjoyed a phenomenal growth in the past 30 years.

There is every reason to expect that this growth will continue and that

the variety of wood-working industries will be increased, with the

result that they will require an increasing supply of raw materials. As

the timber consumption of the United States is now in excess of the

annual growth, and as other sections are drawing on our southern

forests, it is obvious that if these southern wood-working industries

are to survive and are to be handed down to future generations,

immediate and effective steps should be taken for the conservation of

southern forests. This is the more important for the reason that the

same steps taken to insure a perpetual supply of raw material for our

wood-workers will tend to stream and soil conservation by increasing

stream-flow in periods of drought and by lessening the destructiveness

of floods which erode the soil of the upper watersheds and deposit

gravel and silt on overflowed lands and in the beds of the navigable

parts of the streams.

If we were thinking only of the present time, there would be no occasion

for us to concern ourselves with the conservation of our timber

supplies. We have ample for the present generation. It is because timber

is a crop of slow growth, requiring more than a lifetime to mature most

of the species, that timber conservation, if it is to be effective and

is to provide for the needs of those who come after us, must be handled

along exceptional lines. It is not the duty of a private owner of forest

lands to conserve them unless it is at least as profitable for him to do

so as to clear all the timber off of them; but it _is_ the duty of the

Government to consider the welfare of future generations as well as of

that now living.

The conservation of southern timber supplies is a matter that concerns

not only the people of our own section, but those of the entire United

States as well. It is a matter of National concern, as, owing to the

depletion of their forest resources, the people of other parts of the

country must look to the South for an increasing proportion of their

timber supplies. It is a recognition of this National interest in the

southern forests that has strengthened the support of the proposition

for the acquisition by the Federal Government of large tracts of lands

in the Appalachian region to be converted into National forests

(applause) from which the timber shall be marketed under a system that

will result in the perpetuation of the forests. It may be that our

Federal Government has no power, under the Constitution, to acquire

lands for the purpose of forest conservation; but it is charged with the

supervision, improvement, and conservation of our navigable streams

(applause), and the evidence as to the effect of forests on stream flow

was so conclusive as to lead the House of Representatives, during the

last session of Congress, to pass a bill providing the establishment of

National forests for the protection of the watersheds of navigable

streams. This bill is to be voted on in the Senate on the fifteenth of

next February. Whether this plan or some other may be adopted, I think

it is of the utmost importance that the campaign of education as to the

necessity for the speedy and general adoption of the most approved

methods of scientific forestry, which is being so ably carried on by the

National Forest Service, should be continued (applause). This is quite

important, if the best results are to be attained, because, whatever may

be done by the Federal Government, much will remain for the States and

for private owners of forests and woodlots to do. If the States and

private owners are to do their share, the owners of forest lands, the

users of forest products, State legislators, and the people generally

should be educated as to the dependence of our future supplies of timber

on wise conservation.

The private investor in forest lands buys them with the expectation of

making a profit on his investment. He naturally wants to make the

largest possible profit, and to do it as soon as possible. Heretofore,

partly as a result of prevailing systems of taxation and the lack of

efficient fire protection, self-interest has impelled the investor in

timber lands to clean up his holdings to the last dollar's worth of

merchantable timber, and to get off the denuded land as quickly as

possible, selling it for whatever it might bring. In the early years of

our history, when, except in the prairie regions, lands for cultivation

could be obtained only by clearing them of timber, this wholesale

cutting was more justifiable, and, in some cases now, in locations where

the value of the land for agricultural purposes is greater than its

value for timber production, it may be the proper method. We have

reached the point, however, when, especially with reference to our

mountain forests, it may seriously be questioned whether, as a matter of

dollars and cents, this method is the most profitable to the forest

owner. In view of the present prices of lumber and the practical

certainty of advancing prices in the future, I am disposed to believe

that we have now reached the point where it will pay the private owner

of any considerable body of timber on land having relatively a low

agricultural value to adopt conservative methods of forestry (applause).

A case in point is that of the University of the South, at Sewanee,

Tennessee, which owns 7,000 acres of forest land. In 1899 it was

proposed to sell all the marketable timber on this tract, and an offer

of $3,000.00 was obtained. This was rejected, and the University

undertook to manage the forest conservatively and market the mature

timber from time to time. The result is that, at the end of nine years,

instead of having realized only $3,000.00 from this tract, the

University has received from it net profits amounting to over $18,000.00

above all expenses (applause), including the cost of fire patrol; and

instead of having 7,000 acres of cut-over land of relatively little

value, it has a continuously productive forest. (Applause)

Whatever may be the decision of our National Legislature as to the

proposition for the conversion of our Appalachian woodlands into

National forests, I believe it would be a wise and patriotic policy for

our State lawmakers to encourage conservative forestry by private owners

in every reasonable and proper way. One of the reasons assigned for the

failure of private owners to adopt conservative forestry is that in some

localities the rate of taxation on timber land is so high as practically

to compel every owner to cut the timber as quickly as possible. Another

reason assigned is the general lack of an efficient fire patrol, and the

danger that, even if an owner goes to the expense of preventing fire on

his own property, his timber may be destroyed by a fire starting on the

property of some neighbor who has taken no such precautions. These are

matters that come within the province of our State legislators, and I

would suggest their consideration of whether it might not be possible to

devise a system of taxation that would differentiate between timber

lands so managed as to insure the perpetuation of a great National

resource and those so managed as to hasten its exhaustion (applause). I

would also suggest consideration of the enactment of proper fire laws

and the establishment of an efficient patrol, possibly with the expense

apportioned among owners of timber lands, as I understand is done in

some western localities at a very low annual cost per acre. I would

further suggest consideration of the practicability of encouraging the

planting of trees on lands of little or no agricultural value. Even

under the most encouraging conditions, however, planting of forests by

private land owners must, almost necessarily, be on relatively a small

scale. As a general rule, therefore, private planting will be limited to

the establishment of woodlots on the waste lands of farms; and if

reforestation is to be undertaken on a larger scale, it must be done by

some Governmental agency. (Applause)

The problem of stream conservation in the southeastern States is very

closely connected with both timber conservation and soil conservation.

The ends to be sought are a diminution of the volume of water carried by

the streams in their flood stages, and an increase in their volume

during their low stages. Everything, therefore, which tends to retard

the flow of the rainfall into the streams is a conservative agency.

Undoubtedly the most effective of these is the natural forest with its

soil, composed of porous humus, covered by a blanket of decaying leaves,

branches, and fallen trees, and often with a dense mat of underbrush

growing among the trees. Such a forest will absorb a large amount of

water during a rain-storm, and allow it to seep down gradually into the

streams instead of running off in torrents, overflowing the banks of the

streams, destroying growing crops and other property, and scouring the

soil from the watersheds to be deposited in the lower levels of the

streams or at their mouths, shoaling channels or forming bars in

harbors. Generally speaking, therefore, every step taken in the

conservation of forests is of value in stream conservation; but, if the

best results in the regulation of stream flow are to be attained, other

things may be done to advantage. The growth of underbrush having no

marketable value is of no benefit to a forest, in fact it may choke out

or retard the growth of young trees of valuable species. Such a growth

is of great value, however, in retarding water flow, and preventing soil

erosion, and, unless cut-over mountain sides are to be reforested, I

believe that the growth on them of such species as laurel and

rhododendron should be encouraged. (Applause)

Each farmer, especially along the headwaters of the streams, can

contribute to a greater or less extent to stream conservation. He can do

this by establishing permanent woodlots on those waste lands that are to

be found on almost every farm in rolling or mountainous country, and

especially on those lands that are liable to erosion. He should, of

course, take every precaution to prevent the washing of gullies in his

cultivated fields, and where such gullies have already been formed he

should so manage as to prevent further erosion. The farmer on the

headwaters of a stream cannot be expected to do these things in order to

aid in the prevention of flood damages below him. He should be educated

to an appreciation of their benefit to himself individually. He will not

only be lessening, in some degree, the amount of silt carried down by

flood waters, but will be conserving his own soil; and his woodlots

will, in a few years, become increasingly valuable as stores of

fire-wood and fence-posts, and, eventually, of larger timber. The effect

of but a single farmer on an extensive watershed adopting these methods

would, of course, be inappreciable, but if thousands of farmers could be

led to do so as a matter of self-interest the good results would soon

become apparent.

Another method of stream conservation that I believe may be practiced

to advantage in some locations in the Appalachian region is the

impounding of flood waters in artificial ponds or lakes, to be let out

gradually during periods of low water. This is not everywhere

practicable, and, I believe, should only be practiced where the benefit

will be greater than the damage that will result from overflowing the

land included in the reservoir. It would manifestly be unwise to locate

such a reservoir at a point where it would submerge a fertile

agricultural valley, or where it would render inaccessible a valuable

deposit of coal or ore.

One of the great economic advantages of the South is the abundance of

its opportunities for the development of hydro-electric power for the

operation of its factories, the propulsion of its trolley cars, and the

lighting of its cities and towns. If this cheap and efficient power is

to be used most advantageously, it is important that the stream-flow by

which it is generated should be, as nearly as possible, uniform at all

seasons of the year. It is in this connection that reservoirs for

impounding flood waters would be of great value. Some of the sites where

these reservoirs might be located are so situated that a great and

powerful fall of water may be attained. The power plants would often

have to be situated at points not suited for the location of industrial

establishments, but the power can be carried by wire to factories many

miles distant. Where such reservoirs are established the primary purpose

will be the generation of power, but they would also serve a highly

useful purpose in diminishing the flood level of the streams which they

feed.

Your invitation to address this Congress was very gratifying to me, Mr

President, not simply because of the high honor which it conferred upon

me, but chiefly because the invitation and the suggestion of my topic

conveyed a recognition of the interest of the railways of the United

States in the Conservation of our natural resources and in all that

concerns our national welfare. (Applause) They are interested in soil

conservation, because it means prosperity to the farmer and an increase

in the volume of farm products to be carried, and also an increase in

their tonnage of agricultural machinery and implements and of all kinds

of merchandise which a prosperous farmer will buy. They are interested

in the conservation of forests and mines, because it means the

perpetuation of sources of supply of raw materials which, either in

their crude or manufactured state, must be carried to market, and which,

in their production and manufacture, bring prosperity to many thousands

whose consumption of commodities produced in other localities calls for

transportation. They are interested in the conservation of water powers

and navigable streams, because cheap power means the development of

industrial communities and, while economically efficient waterways mean

a loss to the railways of some kinds of traffic, they also mean an

increase in general prosperity in which the railways have a share.

(Applause)

Conversely, Mr President, the people are interested in the conservation

and development of their transportation systems. We have seen that one

of the elements of conservation is the manufacture of finished products

at or near the sources of supply of raw materials. It is this that

enables the people of a community to devote their energies chiefly to

those industries for which their locality is best suited and to exchange

their surplus production for commodities that can be produced more

advantageously in other localities. Transportation makes this

specialization of industries possible. Without efficient transportation

facilities each community would have to be, to a larger extent,

self-supporting, and many of its people would have to engage in the

production of commodities which, with our existing facilities for

transportation, they can buy more profitably elsewhere. The scale of

living would be much more restricted, and many things which are now

looked upon as being almost necessaries of life would either be

unattainable or would be luxuries which only the wealthy could enjoy.

I am glad of the opportunity, Mr President, to speak of the South and

for the South before this representative national assembly (applause).

Our section is a region of unsurpassed economic strength. Our climate

and our soils invite to diversified agriculture, in which there can be

produced profitably all the products of the temperate zone and many of

those of the tropics. Beneath our soil are stores of coal, iron and

other ores, marble and stone for the builder, and clay for the potter

and brickmaker. Our forests are sources of great present profit and,

under wise conservation, can be perpetuated as sources of wealth for

future generations. Our streams flowing from the wooded mountains of the

Appalachian region carry the force of millions of horsepower capable of

being utilized along their banks or carried in the shape of electrical

energy to wherever it can be used to best advantage. The intelligence,

energy, and enterprise of our people are attested by the splendid

social, agricultural, and industrial structure they have erected on the

ruins left by the Civil War. The progress that has been made is but the

promise of what will be. The South is a land of present-day opportunity,

and its people invite the man seeking an opportunity to work with hand

or brain, or the man with money to invest to come to this favored land

of busy factories and thriving towns--a land of fertile valleys,

forest-clad mountains, and storehouses of mineral wealth. (Applause)

* * * * *

President BAKER--Ladies and Gentlemen: You will no doubt gladly permit

interruption of the formal program for a few moments now and then by

reports of committees. Professor Condra, Chairman of the Credentials

Committee, is now ready to report.

Professor CONDRA--Mr President and Delegates: We have examined the

credentials of all Delegates to the Second National Conservation

Congress, and find that the duly accredited Delegates entitled to vote

in accordance with the Constitution of the Congress number thirteen

hundred fifty-one (1351), and that the number of duly accredited

Delegates from each State are as follows:

Alabama 1, Arizona 3, Arkansas 4, California 13, Colorado 7, Columbia

(District of) 10, Connecticut 5, Delaware 1, Florida 4, Georgia 6, Idaho

10, Illinois 67, Indiana 15, Iowa 78, Kansas 13, Kentucky 4, Louisiana

17, Maine 1, Maryland 8, Massachusetts 3, Michigan 19, Minnesota 631,

Mississippi 8, Missouri 25, Montana 20, Nebraska 22, New Hampshire 1,

New Jersey 4, New Mexico 1, New York 27, North Carolina 1, North Dakota

77, Ohio 17, Oklahoma 2, Oregon 15, Pennsylvania 16, Rhode Island 1,

South Carolina 3, South Dakota 53, Texas 12, Utah 2, Vermont 2, Virginia

3, Washington 26, West Virginia 5, Wisconsin 84, Wyoming 5; total, 1351.

Foreign: Canada 2, Mexico 1.

Respectfully submitted to the Congress:

[Signed] G. E. CONDRA, _Chairman_

LYNN R. MEEKINS

GEO. K. SMITH

EDWARD HINES

R. W. DOUGLAS

A DELEGATE--Mr Chairman: I move that the report be adopted and the

committee be dismissed.

The motion was put, and was carried without dissenting voice.

President BAKER--Professor Condra will report an action by the Committee

on Resolutions.

Professor CONDRA (_reading_)--A motion was made and carried by the

Resolutions Committee that resolutions presented to the Congress or to

the Committee cannot be received after 5 oclock p.m. Wednesday. All

resolutions should be headed with the subject of the resolution and

should be signed by the person offering same.

The Resolutions Committee has not yet received the names of the members

from Alabama, Delaware, Nevada, North Carolina, South Dakota and

Virginia; and the Committee urge that the Delegations from those States

act at once. The next meeting of the Committee will be held at 5 p.m.

today, Room 534, Saint Paul Hotel.

* * * * *

Mr GEORGE B. LOGAN (_Secretary of the Resolutions Committee_)--Mr

Chairman: The Resolutions Committee suggest that resolutions should be

grouped under the heads of Land, Water, Forests, Minerals, and Vital

Resources; and if those who submit resolutions will simply place the

proper heading on each, it will greatly aid the Committee.

President BAKER--Professor Condra will make another announcement.

Professor CONDRA--Ladies and Gentlemen: There is a strong demand for

practical consideration of Conservation problems in various States, and

for the purpose of discussing these subjects a meeting will be held this

evening at 8 oclock in the Saint Paul Hotel. All members of State

Conservation Commissions and State Conservation Associations are invited

to attend this meeting.

President BAKER--Here is another announcement just handed in: Technical

men in attendance are requested to meet in the lobby of the Saint Paul

Hotel on the adjournment of the morning session of this Congress. The

call includes civil, electrical, mining, mechanical and hydraulic

engineers, architects, educators in these sciences, and also geologists

and chemists.

Senator Beveridge, of Indiana, will now address us on a subject which

ought to be very near the heart of every father and mother--"The Young

Man's Idea." I have the pleasure of introducing Senator Beveridge.

[The band here played "The Star-Spangled Banner," while the audience

rose and greeted Senator Beveridge with tremendous applause.]

* * * * *

Senator BEVERIDGE--Mr Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: The United States

IS. (Applause) The American people are a Nation (applause)--not

forty-six Nations. (Applause)

In war we fight under one flag (applause) for our common safety; in

peace let us strive, under one flag, for our common welfare. (Applause)

Our history is the story of the struggle of the National sentiment of

all the people, which special interests for their selfish purposes

sought to discourage, against the provincial sentiment of some of the

people, which special interests for their selfish purposes sought to

encourage. (Applause)

The parent of the provincial idea in American Government was the British

crown. The British kings believed that if they could keep the colonists

separated by local pride, local prejudice, and local jealousy, the

British policy would be easier. They knew that if the colonists were

united by common interests, common sentiment, and a common purpose, the

British policy would be harder; and that British policy _was_ to permit

the special interests of the United Kingdom to exploit the people of the

divided colonies (applause). And so from King James to King George the

British crown sought to keep the people of the Colonies

divided--separated by geography for the convenience of the English

government; they sought to keep them separated in spirit for the

interests of the British manufacturers. Every British law which forced

the Revolution was a law to enable the special interests of the United

Kingdom to monopolize the markets of the people of the Colonies. Our

Revolution was nothing more than the war of the people, for the moment

united, against the special interests of the Colonies which had kept

them divided.

Now, such is the origin of the provincial idea in America. Washington

and his Continentals were the infant National idea in uniform, and

manning the shotted guns of liberty (applause). The British and their

Hessian and Tory allies were the full-grown provincial idea behind the

bayonets of oppression. Our first attempt at Government was a failure

because the British provincial idea still was powerful. The local pride,

prejudice, and jealousy of the separate Colonies reasserted itself,

after their common danger was past. The result was the Articles of

Confederation. Washington said that the Government thus formed was

contemptible, and yet it was the provincial idea carried to its logical

conclusion; and so it fell. The cruel necessities of the people forced

the reassertion of the National idea, and the Constitution of the United

States was that idea's immortal child (applause). The Articles of

Confederation said, We, the States, form a Government: the Constitution

says, We, the _People_, form this Government for our general welfare

(applause). And yet into this great "ordinance of our nationality," as

Chief Justice Marshall calls our Constitution, there crept defects which

the statesmen of that day could not prevent, defects which have caused

most of our trouble since, and nearly all of them are due to the

provincial idea. For example, few men remember that when the

Constitution was adopted, "State rights" was not mentioned in that

instrument. Washington had been elected President. The Congress of the

United States was in session. The National Government was under way. The

Tenth Amendment was adopted to quiet those who were preaching the

paradox that the general Government of the people would oppress the

people. Noisiest of these was Patrick Henry, then Governor of Virginia,

who refused to attend the Constitutional Convention, opposed the

ratification of our fundamental law, and was against its adoption. Upon

the embers of provincialism he heaped the inflammable brush-wood of

excited rhetoric. Being in the Constitution, the State rights provision

is as valid as any other amendment. But such is its origin and spirit,

and no misinterpretation of the provincial idea of State rights must be

permitted to impair the American people's general welfare, waste their

resources, plunge the Nation into war, or impede our general progress as

a people (applause). Now, as always, the danger has been, and is, not so

much that the Nation will interfere with the rights of the States as

that the States will interfere with the rights of the Nation. (Applause)

After our present Government was founded, its first conflict with the

British provincial idea was in the Whiskey Rebellion of Pennsylvania;

the special interests that dealt in rum, under the guise of State

sovereignty defied the Nation's laws; but George Washington put down

that first State rights rebellion in the name of the Government of all

the people (applause). Then came the special interests' defiance of the

laws of the General Government in Andrew Jackson's day, and Andrew

Jackson's voice, like the voice of Washington, was the voice of all the

people against the voice of the special interests who tried to exploit

the people. Next came the special interests that thrived on human

slavery, and, in the name of State rights tried to destroy the

Government they could not control. But again the National sentiment

responded to Abraham Lincoln's call to arms (great applause), and a

million bayonets wrote across our Constitution these words of the

American people's immortality: THIS IS A NATION! (Applause)

Then came the special interests that robbed and poisoned the people by

lotteries, that destroyed the morals of the people by obscene

literature. They flourished under State protection. Only the Nation

could stop them. Those special interests denied that the Nation had the

power to stop them. But the Nation _did_ stop them, and the Supreme

Court of the Nation upheld the Nation's power (applause). Then came the

special interests that sold to the people diseased meats, poisoned

foods, and adulterated drugs. Again they flourished under State

protection. Again the Nation only could protect the lives of the

Nation's people. And again those special interests denied that the

Nation had the power, but the Nation _exercised_ the power, and today

National laws protect the lives and rights of the American people from

special interests that were plundering and poisoning and killing them.

(Applause)

And it is the same conflict between the National and the provincial

idea, for and against the great, necessary, and inevitable reform of the

National control of corporate capitalization, on which so largely depend

just prices and rates to the people. (Applause)

These are examples of the evils; but nearly every step of progress we

have taken has been due to the success of the National idea. For

example, President Madison vetoed the first internal improvement bill.

He said, in one of the ablest messages ever written--far abler than the

diluted State rights doctrine we hear today--that the Constitution gave

the Nation no power to build roads, bridge rivers, improve harbors; but

the people needed these things in order to win that righteous prosperity

which only they can have acting as one people, under one flag--and so

Congress passed the internal improvement bill over Madison's veto, and

today no one dares question the Nation's power to make internal

improvements; the only question today is how we can best do that work.

(Applause)

Again, for a hundred years, the provincial idea kept the quarantine of

the Nation's ports exclusively in the hands of the States; but if

pestilence entered at a port of one State it attacked the people of

other States. The germs of yellow fever did not know State lines when

they saw them, any more than a forest fire knows the boundaries between

States when it sees them. And so the open grave, the dead on the street,

the people's past and future peril, asserted the National idea again for

the Nation's safety, and today we have substantially a National control

of National quarantine to keep pests and death from our shores, and the

States are cooperating.

So you see that the history of the American people has been merely the

narrative of the making of the Nation, merely the record of the

compounding of a people, merely the chronicle of the knitting together

of one great brotherhood. It is an inevitable process, and it is a safe

process--except for special interests that seek to exploit all the

people. For the American people can be trusted (applause). The combined

intelligence and composite conscience of the American people is the

mightiest force for wisdom and righteousness in all the world, and no

ancient and provincial interpretation of State rights in the name of

development must impede our general welfare (applause), no plea for

hasty local development must impair our healthy general development

(applause), no temporary State politics compelled by the wealthy few

must prevent permanent National statesmanship for the general good of

all. (Applause)

Affairs that concern exclusively the people living within a State are

the business and the problem of that State. Affairs affecting the

general welfare of the whole people are the business and problem of the

Nation (applause). And even in solving its own problems, every State

must remember that its people are an inseparable and indivisible part of

the whole American people (applause). Of States as of men it may be

written, No State liveth unto itself alone. (Applause)

Just as the idea of provincialism has caused most of our National evils

in the past, so it has wrought the waste of our National resources. The

provincial idea was that the National resources belonging to all the

people should be handed over for nothing to special interests. This was

done under the plea of encouraging individual enterprise and the

hastening of local development. And so forests, which once belonged to

all the people, have been ruthlessly slaughtered, and upon their ruins

have risen the empires of our lumber kings (applause). Priceless

deposits of coal and iron and copper and phosphates have been freely

surrendered to special interests, and those sources of the people's

revenue, which should have flowed into the people's treasury to help pay

the expenses of the people's government, have been diverted by the ditch

dug by the provincial idea into the treasury of special interests until

the multi-millionaire constitutes one of the gravest problems

confronting American statesmanship. (Applause)

All this waste and robbery of the people's property must be stopped!

(Applause) The hand of waste or theft must not be strengthened by any

legal technicality that plays into the hands of special interests and

out of the hands of the American people! (Great applause)

Had we kept all the property that belonged to all the people, and

compelled special interests who exploited it to pay us a reasonable

price for it, that income today would be paying most of our National

expenses. Our resources would have been developed and not exhausted, and

our whole material evolution would have been rational and sound instead

of unbalanced and defective. Had this been our policy from the start, we

would have enjoyed all the benefits from our natural resources, and our

children today would inherit colossal National wealth and small National

burdens instead of the special interests enjoying all the benefits of

the people's property and _their_ children inheriting colossal fortunes

and small private burdens. (Applause)

The Nation must keep and administer for the benefit of all the people

the property yet remaining to the people (applause). Every State should

help and not hinder the Nation, in doing this great duty (applause).

Every State should administer the public property within it, and

belonging to it, for the public good. Every municipality should keep and

administer the property belonging to it for the public good; and both

State and municipality should aid the Nation in keeping and

administering for the people the property that belongs to _all_ of them.

I want to give you an illustration, very concrete: Many of New York's

inconceivably vast fortunes have been expanded by corrupt councils

selling watercourses and other property for a mere song to private

owners. Had New York kept the property which belonged to the city,

instead of squandering it to already multi-millionaires, the city's debt

today would not be so vast--and her great private fortunes would not be

so vast either (applause). The people's taxes would have been less, and

the gigantic unearned incomes of the heirs of great wealth would have

been less (applause). And as between the two, the wiser policy have been

for the city to keep the property that belonged to all the people of the

city instead of selling it sometimes for an infamous price to private

owners whose vast wealth, accumulating by the work of the city itself,

has raised up in the midst of the American people one of the great

questions of the age.

Cooperation of municipality, State, and Nation, in keeping and

administering for the general good the property of all the people--this

is the policy of common sense and common honesty (applause). Strife and

dissension between municipality, State, and Nation, that the reign of

pillage may go on and that mighty accumulations of wealth may be

upbuilded upon the ruins of the people's resources--_that_ is the policy

of private avarice and private plunder (applause). Coal, timber,

asphalt, phosphates, water-powers--all the property of the people--must

be kept and administered for the people by the Government which Lincoln

said was "of the people by the people for the people" (applause).

Already this greatest of our present-day National policies is well under

way. Let any man beware how he retards or hinders it (applause). Already

we have saved much of the people's property still belonging to the

people. We must save _all_ of the people's property still belonging to

the people. (Applause and cries of "Good") "Honor to whom honor is due."

(Applause) Let us not forget, in this great hour, that the man who, by

thought, word, and deed, has wrought for this great reform, until today

he stands its National personification (applause), that splendid,

courageous, pure, unselfish young American, the President of the

National Conservation Association, Gifford Pinchot. (Tumultuous applause

and cheers, calls for "Pinchot"; and the audience rose, gave the

Chautauqua salute, and continued cheering for many minutes)

For years--and I speak from personal knowledge, because twelve years ago

when I entered the Senate I was made the chairman of the then despised

forestry committee--for years Gifford Pinchot has ceaselessly worked and

fearlessly fought to keep for the people the property of the people

which special interests were trying to steal from the people (applause).

And in that Nation-wide battle he has been the field-officer of the man

who _first_ succeeded in making Conservation a permanent and practical

policy of American statesmanship, Theodore Roosevelt. (Great applause. A

Voice: Let us vote to give him back his job!)

The soul of our prosperity--even of our very life--is in the idea of our

unity as a people. Let municipality, State, and Nation, each act and,

within its own province, work to keep what belongs to the people for the

people, instead of the municipality, State, and Nation, each within its

province, conniving at the waste of the people's property for the

upbuilding of the wealth of special interests to the detriment of all

the people. The wise, honest and economic administration of the people's

welfare means the just advantage which individual enterprise and thrift

as of right ought to have. The unwise, uneconomic and dishonest waste of

the people's resources for the enrichment of the special few, this in

the end, believe me, is the denial of that just advantage which

individual thrift, enterprise, and integrity as of right ought to have.

(Applause)

The young men of today in working for themselves individually must think

and act for what the Constitution calls "the general welfare" of the

whole people (applause). After all, only as the Nation is prosperous can

any State be really prosperous. After all, only as the Nation is

powerful can any State be really safe from foes, foreign and domestic.

The young men of the twentieth century in this Republic are not the

heirs of the provincial idea which we inherited from the British kings,

and which has so hindered our real progress as a people, squandered so

much of the people's resources, shed so much of the people's blood. No!

The young men of today are the heirs of all the advancement that our

struggling millions have made toward their common brotherhood. The young

men of today are the heirs of all the victories which heroes and

statesmen have won for the general welfare. The young men of today are

the heirs of all the unifying influences by which the genius of man has

knit this great people into one splendid family. And so the young

American of today, when thinking of himself, must think in the terms of

the Nation; through his veins must pulse the blood of our general

welfare; his every thought and act must be for the common good of all.

And only so can his individual success be well builded; and when it is

builded on such foundation, though "the rains descend and the floods

come and the winds blow" and beat upon a house thus builded "it shall

not fall, for it is founded upon a rock." (Applause)

Why was the American Nation founded? What is the purpose of this

Republic? It is to create a greater human happiness than the world has

ever known (applause). It is to enable millions of men and women to

cooperate in building clean, honorable, prosperous homes. And so let us

Americans move forward as brothers and as sisters until we shall give

the whole world an example of one great brotherhood in heart and in deed

as well as in words. (Great applause)

* * * * *

There were repeated calls for "Pinchot"; and Mr Pinchot, coming forward

amidst great cheers and hearty applause, said--

Ladies and Gentlemen, Members of this great meeting: There can be in a

man's life but few moments like this, in seeing policies in which he

believes and for which he has tried to work so splendidly acclaimed by

such a meeting, when at first they were questioned. I haven't anything

to say at this time except to thank you most profoundly, and to add that

the policies for which this Congress stands are sweeping the country as

they are sweeping this body--and that, so far as the United States is

concerned, Conservation, I believe, has won out. (Applause) I thank you!

* * * * *

President BAKER--Ladies and Gentlemen: We all know Conservation has,

with such a leader, won out. (Applause)

We now take up "A Rational System of Taxing National Resources," by

Frank L. McVey, President of the University of North Dakota, whom I have

the pleasure of introducing. (Applause)

* * * * *

President MCVEY--Mr Chairman and Good Friends: The invitation of the

President of the Congress to be present and to deliver an address on the

subject of a rational system of taxing natural resources, asked that

specific suggestions be made of a practical nature for the improvement

of our present laws on this subject. This places upon me a heavy

responsibility if the suggestions made are to be accepted in any

serious way. The title of the address assigned emphasizes a _rational_

system; it implies that the one now in vogue cannot be so designated,

and that any system of taxation has a close relation to the Conservation

of natural resources. This, if I may put it in so many words, is my

thesis.

It is unnecessary for me to go into the need of Conservation, since that

has been done in the previous Congress and at various times in the

public prints. The question then to which I must devote the time of the

program assigned to me is this: How does taxation affect the

Conservation of natural resources, and what suggestions of a practical

nature can be made for the betterment of the taxation of such resources?

It may be said in the beginning that the difficulties involved in the

taxing of natural resources exist to still greater degree in the case of

other property. Generally speaking, we have not attained to a rational

system of taxation in any field, and we are now attempting to revamp the

old system and extend it, by adding to or taking from it. Economic

conditions in America have changed from time to time, and these changes

have forced upon us a reorganization of our methods, not only of

manufacture and of transportation, but also of administration,

government, and social organization. Such a condition of affairs is seen

today in nearly every State, and attempts are being made to meet it in

the specific instance of the fiscal problem by adding to the old system

of taxation through the special taxation of corporations, inheritances,

royalties, and incomes. The consequence is that so far as natural

resources are concerned we have no principle existent in the general

scheme of taxation that can be used to meet the new conditions that have

arisen in our efforts to conserve our resources. Just as the problems of

industrial organization have come upon the States, so now has come the

problem of our natural resources. In hazy thinking, and sometimes in

indefinite laws, we have attempted to regulate through legislation the

great corporations of the present day; and in much the same manner we

shall, by feeling our way, attempt to develop some plan of taxing

natural resources.

Sometimes in discussing this question of the taxation of natural

resources a great deal of emphasis is placed on the statement that it is

the cause of the depletion of timber and mineral lands especially. I

think it may be said at the outset that the taxation of natural

resources is only one of many factors in the destruction of them. The

extent to which this takes place is impossible to say, but the fact

remains that the taxation of natural resources may or may not hasten the

destruction of forest lands, the exploitation of minerals, and the

cultivation of the soil. Where lands bearing timber are owned, interest

charges with each year of ownership are piled up, and the same is true

of the taxes. Where, on the other hand, lands are held through a royalty

contract, the lessee is in a position to carry the lands without

special cost to himself except that of the taxes. The consequence is

that it is impossible to apply the same principle of taxation to

agricultural lands, timber lands, minerals, and water-powers. There must

be a differentiation between them, and a differentiation that will

clearly meet the various uses to which they are put.

Without question, the general property tax, as it now stands upon the

statute books of the different States, does not meet in any true sense

of the term the general economic conditions, and the special needs of

mining and lumbering in particular. The principle of taxing the product

when it is placed upon the market applies particularly to mineral and

timber lands, but the same principle in the case of agricultural lands

would probably deter their use and fail to meet the needs of revenue as

well as working to the discouragement of the agricultural industry. The

single-taxers have insisted that the taxation of lands hastens its use,

that it forces the owner to develop it; and this is just the thing that

is needed in the special instances of agricultural lands and of town

lots, but the same principle could not be applied to the other resources

of the Nation.

It is possible for the owners of timber lands by following the

principles of forestry to modify the product and to keep the land in

producing condition indefinitely. Taxation of such land, therefore,

should have in view the maintenance of this condition. It must be

clearly understood, however, that the fear of fire, interest charges on

investment, and the cost of management will act quite as surely toward

the rapid destruction of forests as will taxation. These conditions must

also be recognized by the State in the establishment of a fire warden

system, and the encouragement of forestation through some plan of

bonuses. Where forestation is not practiced, the taxation of timber

products under present conditions, whether on stumpage or in transit to

the saw-mills, is a serious problem--serious to the local governments

because under existing laws logs in transit are taxable where they are

owned, and serious to the owners of the timber lands because the fixed

charges on their property increase each day without any income from

them. As near as can be ascertained, the annual taxes on timber vary

from one cent per thousand feet to fifty cents per thousand feet, with

an average tax of somewhere in the neighborhood of fifteen cents per

thousand feet. Interest charges are probably about twenty-three cents,

making a total annual cost of something like thirty-eight cents per

thousand feet. In ten years time the tax on each thousand feet of

standing timber will amount to $1.50, which compounded with interest

makes a total of $2.37. When added to the other charges it is probably

true that the owner of timber under modern conditions must have at least

$13.02 per thousand feet on his logs delivered at the mill if he is to

come out even at the end of ten years with a profit of six percent.

The suggestions which have been made from time to time regarding the

taxation of timber have as their fundamental principle the separation of

the value of the land from the value of the timber. This plan meets the

criticism of the local assessing officers by providing a basis of taxing

annually a part of the valuation, and of procuring some income for the

local government. If it is understood then that the land may be taxed

annually and the timber product when it is cut, we have under this plan

a simple scheme of taxation which will unquestionably meet the

difficulty that is now urged against the general property assessment of

timber lands. Under the old plan of valueing annually the property, it

was difficult to secure an appraisement that was satisfactory to

anybody; and, what was more, as the years went by the local governments

found their assessed values decreasing and the burden of government

materially increasing with the decline in amount of standing timber. The

annual taxation of the land on which the timber stands meets this

difficulty, while the taxation of the product at the time of harvesting

provides a plan that is fair both to the local government and to the

owner of timber.

On the other hand, the taxation of mineral properties differs from the

taxation of timber lands in that it is not possible for the owner to

increase by any plan of Conservation the amount of tonnage that he has

in his possession. The Conservation which he might practice is the

simple Conservation of saving for a future time. From the point of view

of the State the problem is largely one of getting a share of the value

of the minerals in the ground. The method that has been generally

followed is that of making an appraisement of the mineral lands, which

might be very far from or very near the truth. The same principle which

is applied in the case of the timber lands, namely, the taxation of the

product, should be applied to the taxation of mineral properties. There

is no question that the easiest way, and the most satisfactory and

acceptable way to all concerned, is a tonnage tax, varying possibly with

the character of the ore and the cost of mining, but always depending

for the rate and the amount on the ore that has been mined. It will

probably be argued, as it has in other instances, that the local

governments are compelled to rely largely for their support upon the

taxes paid by the owners of mineral properties, and consequently a

tonnage tax would deprive them of the regularity of their income. There

is much to be considered in this point; but the taxation of the surface

on some such basis as that seen in the case of the timber tax would

provide a regular income, which would be supplemented by the amount of

the tonnage taxes.

The rate of the tonnage tax would not, as in the case of the

appraisement of a general property tax, tend to hasten the utilization

of the ore. That would be determined entirely by the demand for it in

the fields of manufacture. The real essence of the tonnage tax lies in

the fact that value found in the ground is distinctly a product of

nature, which an _ad valorem_ tax cannot recognize, and in consequence

the State's right to a share of the value of the earth's products,

together with the diminishing value element involved, are overlooked.

The protection of the local government, and often of the mineral owner,

demands a combination of the tonnage tax and of the local land tax.

When we come to the taxation of water-power we are face to face with a

problem that involves even more difficulties than are found in the case

of the timber and mineral lands. The thing here involved is so elusive,

so difficult of measurement, and requires such expensive administration,

that it is quite conceivable that many years must elapse before an

adequate plan for such taxation can be developed. A water-power,

however, is perpetual, and in this particular it differs from timber and

mineral properties, and is more akin to farm lands. It differs from the

latter, however, in this particular, that the work once done in

harnessing it is done once for all, and the annual labor expended upon

it is not exhausted, as in the case of the farm. Nature, having been

harnessed, is able to accomplish the work for which she is called upon.

The first step in any adequate system of taxing water-powers must be

their survey. This means listing, locating, and measuring. It means,

too, that the Legislature should assume at the beginning all

water-powers belonging to the State, and that the acquirement of them

must be through lease, as in the case of mineral lands in the State of

Minnesota, for example. Several plans have been suggested for the

taxation of water-power. One is the measurement of the water flowing

over a dam, and another is the taxation of the actual horsepower

developed. The latter plan is subject to many criticisms. The

development of horsepower depends so largely on the skill of the

engineer, on the capital invested, and on the way the water is handled,

that it would be far better to measure the capacity of the dam under

proper engineering authority and determine a fair rate for the amount of

power produced by the water passing over the dam. Of necessity many

refinements of this plan would be required; such as the determination of

the movement of the stream, the height of the water, the difficulties of

harnessing the power; but it is possible, by taking into consideration

the general expense of operating a water-power plant, to work out a rate

which would be fair to the users as well as to the State. In no instance

of Conservation does a greater need of proper taxation appear than in

the case of water-power. Nature provides a perpetual force with but

little expense after the necessary fundamentals have been arranged, and

for the State to receive no compensation of any kind for the utilization

of such a great wealth-producer is to bring into existence the greatest

possible factor of injustice in the matter of taxation.

It will therefore be seen that a rational taxation of natural resources

does not depend on any very great and intricate principle, but that, on

the other hand, the principles involved are comparatively simple. It

must be clearly understood as well that the taxation of land for

agricultural purposes, for minerals, for timber, or for water-power,

must differ in many respects, and that a principle of taxation applied

in one case may not work out in the other. But if we keep clearly in

mind the purposes for which land can be utilized, and that the

fundamental taxation of land as such can be made annually, and that of

the product at the time of its harvesting, we have in the three

instances of agricultural, mineral, and timber lands a principle that

may prove satisfactory when put in the form of legislation. The same

idea can be applied to the water-power site; taxation of the land at a

nominal assessment and of the water-power on the basis of the amount of

water passing over the dam gives us again a principle upon which can be

based satisfactory legislation.

It must be remembered, however, that all legislation is compromise in

character, and that the recognition of these principles has usually been

set aside when it came to the question of legislation. The States have

reached a point in the raising of revenue where not only more revenue is

needed for the purposes of general social advancement, but where better

administration is as essential and necessary as the other.

Administration bureaus must be provided in all of the States to furnish

the necessary data, if we are to reach some practical basis of

conserving our resources through taxation. And tax commissions must be

given ample authority, and in addition must have plenty of expert advice

and assistance which will give it the necessary endorsement. To my mind,

a rational system of taxing natural resources depends largely on

administration based upon a few fundamental principles of legislation.

It is comparatively not a difficult matter; it is largely a question of

willingness to meet the problem; but if the experience of the past has

any light to throw upon this subject, it is very clear indeed that

legislation will be slow, and that the different interests involved,

through fear of some possible advantage likely to be gained over them,

will cling to the old system until it is almost too late to produce any

results through adequate taxation.

It is my hope that a Congress like this may have some power and some

influence in setting aside this attitude, but I fear that an adequate

system of taxation will move very slowly when it comes to its

formulation in legislation. This is not encouraging, but it is truth;

and that after all is what we are really trying to get at without

confusing the issue by arguments favoring present attitudes either of

the State or of owners of natural resources. Big views will help solve

the problems, little and narrow ones never. (Applause)

* * * * *

President BAKER--Mr J. B. White, Chairman of our Executive Committee,

will discuss the question of taxation, especially in relation to

woodlands. (Applause)

Chairman WHITE--Mr President, Ladies and Gentlemen: We have listened to

a great paper upon this subject of taxation. It is a subject difficult

to analyze and very difficult to apply, because each section of the

country requires a different form of taxation; each State has different

views, and each should apply the remedy according to the local

conditions.

I speak as a representative lumberman, and as Chairman of the

Conservation Committee of the Lumber Manufacturers of the United States.

Now, the lumbermen have asked for nothing in regard to taxation

excepting what they have incorporated in a resolution, part of the

preamble to which I read:

Whereas, there is a great and growing need for uniform laws

among the States in the interest of forest growth,

conservation, and protection from forest fires, and for an

equitable and helpful system of taxation which will make

possible the conservative handling of standing timber.

That is the declaration of the preamble. It asks simply a uniform system

of taxation.

I want to say a word for our fathers and grandfathers who have been

called the ruthless destroyers of the forests, and I want to say in

their behalf that they committed no sin which shall be visited upon

their children or their children's children (applause). They cut the

forests to make homes for the people; they cut the forests to build our

cities and our towns; they sold all they could, they saved all they

could, they committed no waste; and it should not be imputed to them

that there is a penalty to be paid by their children or their children's

children upon the forests that now stand. (Applause)

Taxation is regarded everywhere as a part of the cost of a commodity.

Every person that buys a foot of lumber, every person that buys a yard

of cloth, every person that buys a suit of clothes, or groceries, or

anything that is manufactured, is the one who pays the taxes (applause).

We are all consumers. We pay each other's taxes, and there is no way of

avoiding taxation. It is said that death and taxation are sure. There is

no way of avoiding either. The consumer must pay the tax because it is

part of the cost.

Now, in regard to the system of taxation; every Nation has its own form.

When it is necessary to encourage the growth or manufacture of a

product, the States of the world have some way of encouraging it by

relief from taxation. Germany has a law putting a duty on American wheat

in order that every nook and corner of the waste land of Germany may be

made to grow wheat. Now, that is a tax. The people of Germany pay that

tax, but it encourages the farmer to grow wheat. And in our own country,

when it is necessary to encourage the farmer in the beet-sugar, or any

related industry, the Government gives a bounty, and people pay it, and

the money is kept at home instead of going abroad for the product. So in

timber taxation, it would seem to me that the reasonable way is to tax

it as it is cut--let the tax follow the saw. Of course every State will

apply the remedy according to local conditions. Louisiana has applied

the remedy. She has passed some very good laws, and we are going to hear

from the representatives of that State, before this Congress adjourns.

We want to consider these things.

There are now so many substitutes for lumber that there will be

inducements to let trees stand if they are not overtaxed. A tree must

have a hundred years' growth before it can be utilized in the shape of

clear lumber in the upper grades. If you tax the tree every year, you

are putting one hundred years' taxes upon the timber. We must be

reasonable about these things if we would encourage the growing of

trees. Any other commodity in the United States pays a tax annually upon

the crop, but here, in growing timber, we are paying for a hundred years

where we should only pay for one. (Applause)

Some States will not grow trees. Illinois will not grow trees. It would

prefer to grow corn. Its land is too rich to grow timber, and the people

will grow corn and exchange it for the product of other States which are

better adapted to tree-growing and not so well adapted to agriculture.

The lands west of the Cascade Range are well adapted to tree-growing on

account of the great rainfall, and not so well adapted for other uses. A

tree will grow there in forty years to as great a size as it will in

eighty years on this side of the Cascade Range. In short, trees will be

grown where it pays to grow them, where they are encouraged to be grown,

where the people want them grown. We cannot grow trees on sentiment;

tree-growing will have to pay; it will have to stand upon a commercial

basis. The Government cannot grow trees without its costing something to

grow them. Conservation has been wrongly understood.

The great leader of American forestry, Gifford Pinchot, is in favor of

development (applause). He said in his speech at Seattle a year ago that

there could be greater waste by non-development and by non-use than

there had been by the wastefulness of the past. That is true. By

non-development and non-use we commit sometimes more waste than we did

in the past, for we could not waste when things were not worth anything;

a thing that isn't worth saving and whose by-product cannot be utilized

is not wasted even if it goes to the burning ground or lies in the

woods. (Applause)

* * * * *

President BAKER--Ladies and Gentlemen: You will all be glad to hear from

the greatest, grandest, noblest work of God, our good women. I have the

pleasure of introducing Mrs George O. Welch, of Fergus Falls,

representing the General Federation of Women's Clubs. (Applause).

* * * * *

Mrs WELCH--Mr President, Delegates to the Second National Conservation

Congress, Ladies and Gentlemen: In the preparations for this great

Congress, there seems to have been no possible item omitted which could

in any way contribute to the pleasure or edification of visitors, save

in two particulars; and with these the management had nothing to do. The

first is the unavoidable absence of the President of the General

Federation of Women's Clubs, Mrs Philip N. Moore, resulting from the

accident which befell her in Cincinnati last May, from which she has not

fully recovered. The second is due to those two elements which have for

years uncounted interfered with man's proposals--time and tide. It is

because time must be consumed in crossing the Atlantic and tide reckoned

with on the voyage that Mrs Emmons Crocker, of Boston, is not able to be

present to speak on "Woman's Influence in National Questions." Her

absence is indeed to be regretted, since influence is today women's best

asset.

Because of these two regrettable occurrences a great honor and pleasure

has fallen upon me. I am proud to be the bearer of greetings to the

Second National Conservation Congress from the General Federation of

Women's Clubs, an organization 800,000 strong, that may justly claim

kinship with this body, since its watch words for years have been

Conservation and Service, which are the impulse and purpose of this

great Congress.

The inception of the General Federation of Women's Clubs was due to the

recognition of the necessity of conserving the energy and strength

wastefully expended by scattered clubs remote from each other, which

concentrated, might make a tremendous influence for the development of

good fellowship and good citizenship. That the General Federation has

become of great force I think you will admit, since its President was

invited to be one of that first notable Conference called by the

President of the United States in 1908 to consider the problems which

this Congress is hoping to solve. She was the only woman invited to that

Conference of Governors, and it is not vain pride which prompts the

mention of the great honor thus conferred upon the General

Federation--it is rather an humble sort of pride, since recognition of

the work which Women's Clubs are doing carries with it an obligation to

greater effort and greater achievement.

The General Federation of Women's Clubs has long been teaching the

necessity of Conservation, not only of the natural resources on which

the material prosperity of this country depends, but of that vital force

which means public health and all that goes with it; of that

intellectual force which means education; and of that spiritual force

which makes for higher ideals, wider sympathies, and fuller appreciation

of our responsibility for the welfare of our fellow-beings.

In the matter of the Conservation of natural resources, the one which

claimed our earliest attention was that of forestry. As far back as

1900 the forestry committee in the General Federation served to bring

into mutual recognition and helpfulness the efforts of all the clubs

engaged in the work for the protection of forests; and I was proud of

the praise given us yesterday by our most distinguished visitor for

Minnesota's successful efforts to preserve a large acreage of white pine

timber as a National forest reserve. It was a fine and inspiring example

to other States engaged in a warfare against the devastating hand of

commercialism (applause). And it is another matter of pride that for

four years the chairman of the forestry committee of the General

Federation was a Minnesota woman, Mrs Lydia Phillips Williams

(applause), whose life was devoted to the promulgation of forestry

education, and to whose untiring efforts very much of the splendid work

done for forestry by Women's Clubs is attributable.

Perhaps the most signal of the triumphs won by the Women's Clubs in the

line of forestry was the saving of the big trees of California, after a

fight lasting nine years (applause). Those were years of great stress

for the women, but we are willing to fight nine years more if need be

for the right sort of protection to the forests in the White Mountains

and Appalachian ranges (applause). Today we are fighting not alone for

the trees that are standing, but for the reforestation of devastated

lands and for a stay of the wanton waste of forest products. At our

recent biennial convention a whole session was devoted to this phase of

the work, showing that our interest is practical as well as sentimental.

Since the conserving of forests and the conserving of water supplies are

interdependent, the General Federation of Women's Clubs through its

committee on waterways is disseminating information, creating interest,

and urging legislation for the further protection of these resources.

But the Conservation of natural resources, important as it is, is not

the work which represents our heart interest, which appeals to our

highest nature; it is not the thing for which we make our greatest

effort. It is the problems of life, those affecting the home, society,

our children, to which we give our most earnest endeavor. There never

was a convention of Women's Clubs anywhere that did not in some way

stress the Conservation of the home, the family, the school, as our

greatest need; and it is because we are aware of the grave dangers

threatening them, dangers born of our times and fostered by our rapid

material growth, that we are endeavoring through organization and

concentration of forces to turn the tide into safer channels.

The child has always been the central figure in our deliberations, the

one for whom our hardest battles have been fought. The General

Federation, through its committees on health, education, and household

economy, is carrying on a campaign of education which will give to all

children greater opportunity for normal, helpful, happy development. To

the child himself, through its department of civics, the Federation is

teaching his duty to society and his responsibility to the future.

Through its committee on industrial and social conditions it is trying

to secure for him safety and efficiency in the great industrial

struggle; to protect him against the forces that are pushing him,

imperfectly prepared, into the great maelstrom of the workaday world,

wasting his young life, minimizing his chances for happiness and

usefulness. As long ago as the Los Angeles convention in 1902, Jane

Addams, our greatest American woman (applause), pleaded for the

protection of the child against the awful economic waste of child labor

(applause). She told of little lives by scores and hundreds yearly

sacrificed to the god of greed: of conditions in some of the industrial

pursuits where for want of a few dollars expended in safety devices,

many children were yearly killed outright, or maimed for life. She so

touched the hearts of her hearers that a committee on child labor was

there created, whose province it was to discover if possible a remedy

for these crying evils; at any rate to inform the public of their

existence.

Women have worked long and earnestly to ameliorate these conditions, but

they must depend on the mutual action of earnest, interested men, such

as are sitting in this Congress today, for the enactment and enforcement

of the laws necessary to improve a state of things which women have only

the power to point out. In the particular case of child labor there can

be no accusation of exaggeration or hysteria, since from so unemotional

a source as the Federal Government we learn that its recent

investigation of child labor shows need of a strenuous and continued

effort for the conservation of child life. In the cotton textile

industry alone, and along the line of age-limit and illiteracy alone,

its statistics show that in a group of States having no age limit for

child laborers, there are over 10 percent of female workers under

fourteen years of age, and that in those same States over 50 percent of

the children of both sexes so employed are unable to read or write. What

worth have forests or mines or any material wealth, gained at the

sacrifice of so much vital force?

For the welfare of women and girls, as well as for children, the General

Federation is working with all its energy and strength. For moral and

social as well as industrial protection it begs cooperation. Against the

black plague as well as the white plague it is waging its warfare. For

better housing in cities, for improved conditions in rural and remote

communities, it is using all its power. What conservation and

concentration of effort can do it is trying to accomplish, but it must

as yet find its work constantly hampered and hindered by its inability

to press to their ultimate accomplishment things which only legislation

can effect. A club woman has wisely said that as conditions are today it

is the women who suggest and initiate, the men who adopt and complete.

This is true; for, after all, women can only point the way.

The Ex-President of the United States told us yesterday that it was a

great wrong to allow any body of people to monopolize any good thing.

There is, however, an exception to this rule, which I am sure our

honored First Citizen would concede to us: Women have long had a

monopoly on influence; it has been the one thing accounted their own

particular weapon in social warfare (applause). And so I appeal to the

men in this audience to yield themselves to that women's weapon when

next the General Federation of Women's Clubs or any individual members

of the Federation asks them for the enactment of laws which shall tend

to the Conservation of the vital forces represented in the mothers of

the race and the children who are to be the country's future citizens.

The General Federation is, after all, just one more organization trying

to make this land a better place to live in, and its people better

fitted to live in this better land. (Applause).

* * * * *

President BAKER--The next lady I wish to present represents an

association that has done much; Mrs Hoyle Tomkies, of Shreveport,

President of the Women's National Rivers and Harbors Congress.

* * * * *

Mrs HOYLE TOMKIES--Mr President, Ladies and Gentlemen: Greetings to this

Second National Conservation Congress from the Women's National Rivers

and Harbors Congress, organized June, 1908, and having officers in

thirty-eight States and Territorial possessions.

This organization has for its object the development of the meritorious

rivers and harbors, the preservation of the forests, and the

Conservation of all the natural resources of the Nation. It stands for

the establishment by the Federal Government of a definite waterway

policy for the improvement of all approved rivers and harbors of the

entire country, and also for the adoption of such a policy as will

secure not only forest reserves but general forest development. The

Congress believes that the development of the waterways of the Nation

increases and conserves the people's wealth, _first_, directly, by

securing the cheapest mode of transportation; _second_, indirectly, by

lowering the cost of transportation by rail; and _third_, by encouraging

production. The platform as adopted immediately after organization

stated a belief in the need for the Conservation of all the natural

resources of the Nation because of the interdependence which

necessitated the development of each.

The membership of our Congress is composed of individuals and clubs,

representing almost thirty thousand men and women, the latter largely

predominating. The work of the Congress, conducted through the

Departments of Education and Publicity, is directed by a board of

directors representing thirty-nine States and Territories. Voluntarily

these women are giving their time, finding in the joy of service for the

cause ample recompense.

In the educational campaign, the Congress has culled from the best

authorities the strongest arguments and convincing statistics, and has

had these printed and circulated in many thousands of copies throughout

the length and breadth of the land. In 1908 this Congress secured the

cooperation of the General Federation of Women's Clubs for the promotion

of waterway development.

Since organization the Congress has worked incessantly for the passage

of Rivers and Harbors bills, and individually for State projects for

waterway development. It has worked for the Week's Bill, and for general

National and State development. It urged upon Congress the passage of

the bill for the preservation of Niagara Falls in the spring of 1909.

In its educational campaign it has covered the entire question of

Conservation, and also urged the non-pollution and the beautification of

the streams of our country. It has secured and arranged for large

audiences in critical or indifferent centers, for experts to advocate

the cause, and it has had speakers at all important public gatherings

possible. It has organized Conservation clubs, and secured the addition

of Conservation committees in various organizations. It has offered

prizes, securing the writing of many thousands of essays by school

children upon waterway and forest development. The various State

vice-presidents have issued State circular letters, showing how their

States were concerned in the cause we represent.

The plan of the Congress to supplement or substitute Arbor Day with

Conservation Day met with the hearty approval of the United States

Department of Agriculture and the cooperation of many educators, and has

been successfully carried out in many States. The resolution of the

Congress asking that the principles of Conservation of natural resources

be taught in the school and summer normals, has been presented to every

State represented in the Congress, Louisiana being the first to

immediately pass the resolution unanimously at its State Conference of

High School Superintendents, representing forty thousand pupils, and at

its State Teachers' Association; Kentucky being a close second, with

every encouragement from other States. (Applause)

The same resolution was presented to the National Educational

Association in convention at Boston, July 5-9, 1910. Of this resolution,

Honorable Elmer Ellsworth Brown, United States Commissioner of

Education, to whom we later had the pleasure of listening, wrote in

reply to me a pleasant letter in which he enclosed the following copy of

his letter to Dr Irwin Shepard, Secretary of the National Educational

Association:

DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR

BUREAU OF EDUCATION

WASHINGTON

DOCTOR IRWIN SHEPARD,

Secretary National Educational Association,

Westminster Hotel,

Boston, Mass.

MY DEAR DOCTOR SHEPARD: The preamble and resolution enclosed

herewith have been sent to me by the Woman's National Rivers

and Harbors Congress, Mrs Hoyle Tomkies, of Shreveport,

Louisiana, as President National Educational Association at its

Boston meeting. Following our ordinary course in such matters,

may I ask you to lay this matter before the committee on

resolutions.

You are aware of the conservative position which I take as

regards proposals for the incorporation of new studies in our

school curriculum, and also as regards the turning aside of our

school instructions from the aims of general education to the

propaganda of any special cause. The organization presenting

this resolution, however, disclaim any intention of introducing

a separate new study in the course. The subject which they

propose, however, is one so intimately bound up with the

geographical conditions and the past history of this country,

as well as with our prospect for the future, that it seems to

me very desirable that the attention of teachers should be

called to it, and that they should be led to see its relation

to any proper and adequate treatment of a knowledge of our

country. I should think it very desirable, accordingly, that

something of this kind be introduced into the platform of the

Association of this year, with such adaptation of form and

phraseology as the common practice of the Association would

suggest.

I am, believe me,

Very truly yours,

[Signed] ELMER ELLSWORTH BROWN, _Commissioner_.

As to the action of the National Educational Association regarding the

resolution, Dr Shepard wrote to me in part as follows: "I sincerely

regret that you were not duly informed earlier of the action, or rather

the non-action, of the Committee on Resolutions. I cannot explain their

action in this matter. They had a large number of subjects to consider,

and the omission of a declaration upon any subject is not to be

considered as a judgment against such a declaration, but simply that the

Committee did not find it practicable, for reasons satisfactory to them,

to include it in the declarations which they offered. Incidentally I may

suggest to you the present uncertainty regarding what is meant by

Conservation and the wisest policies to be adopted may have led them to

defer action in this matter. Let me assure you that we are all deeply

interested in Conservation, and believe that it can be profitably

brought into the work of the public schools, but many are still

uncertain as to the form of such work and the methods by which it can be

most profitably introduced into the public school curriculum."

Members of this Congress, there is in this non-action a suggestion

potent to us. This indecision, this lack of harmony, should speedily as

possible be changed into a definite, harmonious union of Conservation

policies (applause). This fall a printed catechism of questions on

Conservation adapted to the various grades will become a part of the

curriculum of the public schools of Kentucky, and will be tried in

various other States.

Delegates have been sent by the Women's National Rivers and Harbors

Congress to all important conventions of kindred interests. Since

organization it has had representative speakers on the platform of many

of the most important conventions. The Congress has furnished lecturers

to schools and to various clubs of men and women, and also to the

churches, in which latter the subject of "Conservation of Natural

Resources from the Moral Standpoint" has proved an appropriate and

impressive theme.

In December, 1909, the Congress endorsed the disinterested and patriotic

policy of Honorable Gifford Pinchot as Chief Forester of the United

States. (Applause)

This report cannot satisfactorily be closed without mention of the loyal

and very enthusiastic support of Conservation being given us by our

Hawaiian members, who number several hundred, and who began immediately

to put belief into practice. Our State vice president there, Mrs A. F.

Knudson, came all the way to Washington to attend our last convention.

These are the general activities of the organization. It would be

impossible for me to go into the State activities at this time.

Sufficient to say that the message is being given at the fireside, from

the platform, in the schools, through the press, all with the idea of

perpetuating this Nation--won by the blood of our forefathers--and

handing it down in all the glory of its wealth and beauty to future

generations. (Applause)

* * * * *

President BAKER--It is a pleasure to present Mrs G. B. Sneath, of

Tiffin, Ohio.

* * * * *

Mrs SNEATH--Mr President, Ladies and Gentlemen: After hearing the

general purpose for which the women of the General Federation of Women's

Clubs have been working, it may seem needless for me to tell what one

definite part of this great body is endeavoring to accomplish. I

represent Mrs J. D. Wilkinson, Chairman of the Waterways Committee of

the General Federation, which is a part of the great Conservation

Committee of the Federation, comprising almost 800,000 women in its

organization.

Our work is entirely educational. We go into all the schools where we

can possibly gain access, and strive to get the matter of preservation

of inland waterways taught in the schools as among the great

Conservation problems. We have heard from experts all that is being

done, all that they are trying to do, all that they are trying to

remedy; and we feel that we, as women, have one chief and great duty to

perform. You have heard how women strive to conserve the lives of

children, to make them strong mentally, morally and physically. Yet this

is not all; the one great problem before the American people today is

that of pure food and pure water (applause); and we, as women, must

strive in the communities in which we live and the States of which we

are a part--and the Nation must come to our aid--to rescue and prevent

from contamination the life-giving streams of this country, streams that

were given for the benefit of mankind but which man has turned into

drainage canals and cesspools. We must have help; we must have it

through State Legislatures, we must have it through the Federal

Government, else we cannot conserve the lives of those that are dear to

us. If a visitor from another land were to say to us, "Your children are

being poisoned by their own parents," we would hesitate to believe it;

but our children _are_ being poisoned--not by criminal intent but by the

carelessness of the municipalities in which we live (applause). So I

leave with you this one thought: If we accomplish nothing else, if we

leave to the men the questions of transportation and navigation and the

great problems of irrigation and of water-power, let us work for the

purity of our rivers and streams and lakes and inland waterways.[1]

(Applause)

* * * * *

President BAKER--The Proceedings of this Congress are to be published

through the kindness of a gentleman in Saint Paul who has guaranteed to

have it printed, and all these addresses will go in.

We will now hear from Mrs Jay Cooke Howard, of Duluth.

* * * * *

Mrs HOWARD--Mr President, Ladies and Gentleman: I will keep you only a

minute, because you look hungry, and I'm hungry myself. I will simply

file my report and tell you briefly what the Daughters of the American

Revolution are doing for Conservation.

The D. A. R., being a patriotic society, believe that all their work is

in the spirit of true Conservation; but we have a special National

Committee, with a member or members from each State. I represent the

chairman, Mrs Belle Merrill Draper, because I am the member for

Minnesota. Mrs Draper wrote last fall to all the Governors, asking each

what we could do to help the cause of Conservation in his State. When

the answers came we went to work, chiefly in three ways: First, in our

own meetings, in which we worked up enthusiasm. Second, in the press;

the papers in the larger cities have much Conservation matter, but in

smaller cities and towns this is not always the case, and you from such

places will never know how much about Conservation that you have

read--or skipped--was inspired by the D. A. R. Our third branch of work,

and the most important one, is with the children. I notice that most of

the Governors, whose interesting letters are contained in the report I

am filing, preferred to have us turn our attention to the children

rather than to the men (laughter). Governor Eberhart's courteous letter

mentioned them, and the forests, especially. We have worked through the

schools, and also in our own homes. May I tell my own experience?

[Voices: "Go on, Go on!"] I felt very proud when my little boy, who had

saved eleven cents and did not know what to do with it all, finally

said, "Mother, I will give it to the baby; put it in his bank; it will

teach him to save." But straws in the family show which way the wind

blows in the Nation. Listen to what happened: I provided savings banks,

the children conserved their resources, saved their wealth and then

somebody came and stole the banks! (Laughter and cries of "Good!")

* * * * *

President BAKER--The Congress stands adjourned until 2 oclock.

_SIXTH SESSION_

The Congress reconvened in the Auditorium, Saint Paul, at 2 p.m.

September 7, President Baker in the chair.

President BAKER--Ladies and Gentlemen: I have the honor of asking

Senator Moses E. Clapp, of Minnesota, to preside this afternoon, and to

him I now yield the chair. (Applause)

Senator CLAPP--Ladies and Gentlemen: During the course of this Congress

much has been said concerning the fact that Conservation applies not

only to the material resources of a Nation, but to its productiveness

and to its energies; and among those things to which it must under that

classification apply is the Conservation of time. Now, I am going to

give you a practical illustration of how a loyal adherent can carry out

the Conservation of time by omitting a speech, and proceeding at once to

the business of the afternoon. (Laughter)

The first entry in the program for this afternoon is an address, "Making

Our People Count," by Dr Edwin Boone Craighead, President of Tulane

University, whom I take great pleasure in introducing. (Applause)

* * * * *

President CRAIGHEAD--Mr Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: In this Republic

there is one thing supremely great and sacred, greater than the great

Republican party, the party of Lincoln and Grant, greater than the great

Democratic party, the party of Jefferson and Jackson, more precious than

the Conservation of our natural resources, more sacred than the Supreme

Court, or even the Constitution itself--I mean the great American people

(applause). To make this people count, not only in the Conservation of

our natural resources but also in the enlargement and enrichment of

their own lives, is the fundamental, the paramount, problem of this

Republic; for ours, it must not be forgotten, is not only a Government

of the people and by the people, but also preeminently a Government

_for_ the people.

The Founders of this Republic were not only scholars and thinkers, but

seers and prophets. With profound knowledge of the despotisms that for

five thousand years had crushed and enslaved the greatest and sublimest

thing on this earth, the individual man, the Fathers of the Republic

laid broad and deep its foundations upon an everlasting rock--the

inalienable, the ineradicable, the eternal right of man to life,

liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. They builded for all time and

for all generation of men. (Applause)

The individual man, the individual woman, is by far the greatest and

sublimest creation of God that we know of--far greater and grander than

any or all the institutions of society. These institutions are the works

of the hands of man, they exist for him, and their only reason for being

is that they minister to him. Yea, the earth was made for man, and the

only reason for the Conservation of its resources is that they may

minister unto the needs of the individual man:

Seas roll to waft him, suns to light him rise;

His footstool the earth, his canopy the skies.

In the deliberations of this Congress the words of Ruskin should be

uppermost in the minds of all: "There is no real wealth but life;" and

by life he meant the perfection of the entire man, body, soul, and

spirit. That church is best, that institution is noblest, that

civilization is highest, that country is greatest, which furnishes the

most abundant life to the largest number of human beings.

The Chinese Empire, which embraces near four hundred million human

beings, has existed for five thousand years; yet the countless millions

of China, springing up like tropical weeds and sinking back to dreamless

dust, have contributed far less to civilization than the twenty thousand

Athenians who in the brief Periclean age followed the footsteps of Plato

and Socrates. (Applause)

Neither vastness of population or territory, nor richness of natural

resources, nor accumulated wealth can alone make a great country. That

country is great, no matter how barren its soil, whose children may

truthfully repeat the words of the stern old Spartan, who, when one

pointing in derision to the bleak hills of Lacedemonia asked, "What do

you grow there?" replied, "We grow men there" (applause). To breed a

race of strong men and noble women is the one and only thing that can

make a country truly great.

Consider Scotland--a poor and barren country, yet who would dare to call

poor the land of Scott and Burns and Carlyle? Who shall estimate the

wealth of Scotland's contribution to the world and to America? The sons

of her sturdy pioneers who poured down through Virginia and Kentucky and

the Carolinas have been worth to this Republic their weight in gold.

(Applause)

Take Ireland, that synonym of poverty; and yet how could our great

metropolitan cities thrive for a single day without the helping hand of

the sons of Erin? Somebody has advised that we buy Ireland, not for her

natural resources, not to grow corn and wheat and cotton, but to grow

policemen. (Applause)

Coming a little nearer home, take New England with her thousands of

abandoned farms, rich only in the variety and ferocity of her climate

and the blessed dispensations of our American protection; and yet far

from mean have been New England's contributions to the wealth of

American democracy. New England, rocky old New England, barren,

storm-swept New England, "Land of brown bread and beans," home of the

liberty-loving Puritans who, for the sake of the immaterial good, in

quest of freedom, crossed the stormy sea, endured the hardships of an

untamed wilderness battling with hunger and wild beasts and

savages--grand, glorious New England (applause), home of Adams and

Webster and Emerson and Hawthorne and Williams and Lowell and Longfellow

and Edward Everett and Phillips Brooks (applause)--grand, glorious,

immortal New England, by her schools and colleges has almost dominated

the intellectual life of this country; and in every part of this vast

Republic, yea, in every civilized land under the sun, may be found the

sons and daughters of the pilgrims of the Mayflower; scholars,

preachers, teachers, missionaries, pioneers who have blazed out the

pathway of civilization, established schools and colleges and

universities, always and everywhere children of sweetness and light who

even on the remotest frontier have kept trimmed and lighted the sacred

lamps of learning (applause). Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Bowdoin,

Dartmouth, Williams, have contributed more to the dignity of man, given

more to the everlasting glory of the American commonwealth, than all the

stock speculators of New York, or all the battleships ever built for the

American Navy. (Applause)

Take only one other illustration: Who of you from the waving cornfields

of Iowa and Illinois, from the fertile lowlands of the Mississippi, has

not wondered, while passing through the Old Dominion and looking out

upon her red clay hills, how on earth do these people make a living? Why

give me one acre of the best Louisiana soil--and it is nearly all

good--and put it down upon the barren rocks of New England, or upon the

red hills of Old Virginia, and I would make a fortune selling it for

fertilizer (laughter). And yet Virginia has contributed more to the

wealth of the American Republic than any other single State of the Union

(applause). At the call of what other States did there ever arise a

larger band of more gallant men than they who under the leadership of

Jackson and Lee withstood for long weary months the combined forces of

the Union? And when the War was over, and Virginia found herself in

abjectest poverty, she showed to the world that her riches were

inexhaustible; for during the next forty years she sent abroad into

other States five hundred thousand of her most adventurous sons

(applause), and, in so doing, contributed more to the wealth of this

Republic than all the gold that was ever dug from the mines of

California (applause). I do not wonder that the poorest the humblest son

of the Old Dominion, no matter where he finds himself, whether trudging

through the snows of Minnesota or loitering perchance beneath the

fragrant magnolias of Louisiana--even he, the poorest and humblest, must

quicken his steps and lift aloft his head as he remembers, "Mine is the

land of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and James Madison and

James Monroe and John Marshall and John Randolph and Patrick Henry and

Stonewall Jackson and--towering above them all save Washington

only--that matchless military chieftain, great in battle but still

greater in defeat as a private citizen, the stainless, the immortal

Robert E. Lee." (Applause)

James Russell Lowell said--and said truthfully--that countries are great

only in proportion to what they do for the moral and the intellectual

energy, the spiritual faith, the hope, the comfort, the happiness of

mankind. (Applause)

* * * * *

Chairman CLAPP--Ladies and Gentlemen: It is provided in the program that

between the set speeches we will hear briefly from the accredited

representatives of the various States, taken in alphabetical order. I

now have the pleasure of calling upon the State of Alabama. (Pause) If

no one cares to be heard from Alabama, I now call upon Arizona. (Pause)

If no one from Arizona, then from the State of _Arkansaw_; and that

there may be no mistake on the part of the inhabitants of that State in

the termination of the name, I repeat that call in the name of Arkansas.

(Laughter)

A DELEGATE--Mr Chairman, I suggest that the call of the States be

deferred until 8.30 in the morning, and that it then be taken up as a

definite matter of business.

Chairman CLAPP--Will the gentleman make a motion to that effect?

[The motion was made, seconded, put and carried without dissenting

voice.]

President BAKER--Mr Chairman: I will be very glad to be here at 8.30. We

want everyone to be heard, and I would come here at 6 oclock if desired,

though I think 8.30 is early enough. I will be here promptly to open the

Congress and hear from the States until the regular speakers begin. Then

on Thursday afternoon we have set aside a special time to hear from all

the States and all the different organizations represented here.

Chairman CLAPP--Ladies and Gentlemen: During last summer it became my

province to distribute nuggets of moral philosophy and political truth

to the people of Kansas, Nebraska, and Iowa; and while laboring in that

moral vineyard I discovered that there was a newspaper in the Southwest

that had an immense influence throughout all that section. We have a

representative of that paper with us this afternoon, who will now

address us on "The Press and the People"; Mr D. Austin Latchaw, of the

Kansas City Star. (Applause)

* * * * *

Mr LATCHAW--Mr Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: As a representative of

the newspaper profession, before I say anything else, I wish, on behalf

of my associates and myself, to thank the city of Saint Paul and its

Committee on Arrangements for the very excellent facilities provided and

the thoughtful courtesies extended to the men assigned to cover this

Congress.

The subject assigned me is incidental rather than germane to the work

of this Congress. It is a big subject, and even if I felt that I could

do justice to it I would doubt the appropriateness of using this

occasion for the discourse. You are here to consider practical

Conservation; to discuss ways and means to develop and, so far as

possible, to foster the natural resources of this country, and above all

to check and prevent the wasting of them. And it is one striking

commentary on the relations of the press to the people that you do not

need to give a moment's concern about the publication of your

deliberations and conclusions. (Applause)

Yet it does seem fitting that at some stage of these proceedings a

little time should be given to the consideration of that far-reaching

agency without which the results of this Congress would not reach the

public at large; for what you do today will be made known to tens of

millions of readers tomorrow. If it were not so, the value of such

public-spirited meetings as this would be immeasurably discounted.

However, as a member of the newspaper profession I cannot but feel that

my subject would be more appropriately discussed by someone outside of

that profession. It might be handled more frankly. It might be made more

instructive to both the press and the people. Most assuredly I have not

come here to throw stones at my professional brethren, and as for

handing them bouquets, that gentle function might be performed with a

somewhat better grace by someone outside the family. Still, I shall not

be quite so reserved as was an old farmer back in Pennsylvania, whose

farm adjoined that of my father when I was a boy, and who always got the

worst of it in a horse trade because he was too modest to brag about his

end of the proposition.

First of all the newspapers of this country could not have the splendid

field they possess, the great opportunities they enjoy and the inspiring

attention they command, if they did not appeal to the best read, the

most intelligent, and the most responsive people on earth. In no other

country is such a large percentage of the public a newspaper-reading

public. Nowhere else does the average man know so much about current

affairs of all kinds as in this country of ours.

On the other hand, I believe this popular intelligence is

reciprocal--that the response the newspapers find for their endeavors is

largely due to their efficiency in disseminating the news, in analyzing

public questions, and in reiterating the truth. The man who is an

habitual reader of a good newspaper owes much to that paper, just as the

paper also owes much to him.

It is true that newspapers differ in policies and methods and doctrines,

and there are times when the public may be confused rather than

enlightened by the different presentations of the same subject,

especially if the subject be one of technical complexities, such, for

example, as that of the protective tariff. But in the daily run of

events and the discussion of them, and in the long run of complex

problems, the lines between right and wrong are not difficult to follow.

And I am glad to say that from the newspaper point of view, these lines

seem to be more clearly discerned than ever before, not alone by the

press, but by the people. There has been a National awakening in this

country, and the newspapers have had their share of it (applause). There

is a broader and franker handling of the subjects of the day. The number

of wholly independent papers is constantly increasing, and the number of

independent party papers is increasing still more rapidly. The

uncompromising party organ will soon be a thing of the past (applause).

This greater independence of the press is largely responsible for the

increasing independence of the electorate. The time has come when no

man's loyalty to his party can be questioned when he honestly

disapproves of some legislative measure or official representative of

that party.

The chief function of the press is, of course, to present the news, and

the news, collectively speaking, is non-partisan. A paper's advertising

is non-partisan. If it is the right sort of paper, its circulation is

largely non-partisan. And with equal freedom in its editorial policy, a

newspaper, especially the big resourceful paper with an efficient and

somewhat specialized staff, may make of itself a sort of popular

university for its readers, furnishing them with authoritative

information, whether obvious in the news or elucidated in the

editorials, on the current life of the world.

I am not one of those who believe that a newspaper should confine itself

to the mere presentation of the news. That is a great and powerful

function, but the paper with a vast audience, with a reputation for

honesty and authority, can make of itself a constructive agency of

tremendous power (applause). Also, it can make itself a destructive

agency, when the public welfare demands that something should be

destroyed (applause).

Of course, we are a busy people, and newspapers must be prepared with

reference to our limited leisure. A few papers are conducted on the

theory that the public has no time to read anything but the headlines. I

am not here to "knock" this class of newspaper. If they do not show a

regrettable preference for the sensational or the scandalous, they serve

a good purpose in the scheme of publicity. They have greatly enlarged

the newspaper audience. Do not forget that. And it is the experience of

those who have published this class of papers that sooner or later their

readers require more conservatism. As a result there has been a tendency

for some time among these papers toward a more dignified style of

publication.

But, as I have said, we are busy people. We have need for intelligent

digests, authoritative discussions of the subjects of the day as well as

news developments of those subjects. An evidence of this need is the

fact that, in some of our municipal, State, and National contests in

which great issues are at stake, it is necessary, in spite of our

boasted and undoubted intelligence, to reiterate salient facts day after

day in order to drive them home and make them enter into the conviction

of the masses (applause). Sometimes this reiteration becomes tiresome to

those of quick perception or ample leisure; but it is a necessary

practice on the part of a newspaper that regards itself as an

instructive and constructive agency as well as news furnisher. And when

a paper thus regards itself it would seem that the ideal and final

policy would be one of untrammeled freedom--freedom to support the man

or the measure best calculated to serve the public welfare, or to oppose

the man or the measure believed to be inimical to popular well-being. A

paper thus established, not as an infallible judge but as an intelligent

investigator, a patriotic champion, and an enterprising and faithful

agency for progress in the community that supports it, can become a

tremendous factor for good--a factor that will be taken into account by

all friends of the people, and must be taken into account by all enemies

of the people. (Applause)

I will not presume to encroach upon the direct business of this Congress

except so far as the newspaper hears a relation to it. Every newspaper

publisher has a personal as well as his public share of the general

interest in Conservation. The problem of procuring wood pulp at prices

that will permit the continuation of the publication of newspapers at

the present low rates will soon be serious unless a check is put upon

the rapid decrease in the forest area. Wood pulp is made almost entirely

from the spruce tree. For years the manufacturers of pulp stripped the

forests with little thought of the morrow. The visible supply of pulp

timber is becoming limited. Unless tree-growing comes to the rescue, it

will not be long before print paper will have to be made from some other

material, if a satisfactory substitute can be found, or the pulp will

have to be bought from other countries.

I do not know whether you understand how much good timber is handled by

newspaper readers. Let me give you some figures: The readers of the

paper I represent handle sixty tons of it a day, taking into account the

weekly edition. This is, in round numbers, 20,000 tons per year. We are

already importing 20 percent of the pulp used in our paper mill. Think

of it! In this great, big, new country, once almost covered with mighty

forests, we find it advantageous today to import a common forest product

from old Germany, where the highest standards of forest preservation and

use are to be found. And this pulp, with a protective duty paid, is laid

down in Kansas City for less than we have to pay for the domestic

product of the same kind and quality. To make the paper for this one

mill, the output of which is used exclusively by one paper, a daily

average of more than one acre of spruce forest is used.

It is a matter for congratulation that the press of the country has

assumed a most friendly attitude toward the Conservation movement

(applause). Newspapers still disagree about many things. They have

their little differences on the tariff, on the currency system, on

corporation regulation, on certain men and particular measures, and they

do not agree as to why "Jim" Jeffries didn't come back (laughter); but I

have yet to find in a single issue of any paper flat opposition to the

Conservation of natural resources (applause). Gentlemen of the

Conservation Congress, you have here a movement of National and

irresistible sweep, a theme that will endure through successive

generations--for if it does not endure the Nation ultimately must

perish. The people have grasped this subject spontaneously, and they are

ready to study it zealously. Few yet comprehend its scope, fewer still

its diversified details; but collectively the people intuitively

understand its vital significance. The country has at last awakened to

its gross neglect and waste and prodigality. It has suddenly been

reminded of its obligation to future generations along material lines.

There is something even more appealing in this than the promptings of

altruism: there is the moving sense of parental obligation, of sacred

trusteeship. You are to be congratulated--you who are the fathers and

prime movers of this great cause--that you have the united press of the

country behind you.

And not only is the press with you, but it is ready to do far more than

it has been able to do thus far. This movement needs publicity--much

publicity. It is new. It must be made familiar. The people must be

informed in detail as to the location, the character, and the extent of

their resources, and as to the means employed or proposed for the

developing and fostering of those resources. The only effective means

for the dissemination of this information is the press.

Every year the Government spends millions of dollars on Government

reports. These reports are necessary as matters of record and reference,

but they are worthless for general reading. Many of the millions

expended on these reports could be saved by limiting the number of

copies to those that will be used and by leaving the mails unencumbered

with the surplus (applause). If a part of the money thus saved were

expended in the intelligent preparation of news matter pertaining to the

various Government departments, giving to the people the interesting

facts as they develop instead of depending on voluminous and unpopular

reports for the education of the people in these matters, the work of

the Government would be facilitated by popular enlightenment where it is

now hampered by popular ignorance. It seems to me there is an

opportunity here for the Conservation of our National revenues and our

natural resources at the same time.

What is needed is an intelligent publicity bureau or agent in each

department and the more important subdivisions, capable of preparing, in

news form, as the facts develop, the interesting and instructive

features of the department's daily work. This does not mean that all the

papers will use all this matter, but some of it would be used by all to

whom it is offered, and all of it would be used by some papers. On the

whole there would be much wider publicity than could be procured in any

other way.

I am not suggesting an untried experiment. Some of the bureaus at

Washington have publicity departments. Those of the Agricultural

Department and the Geological Survey have been measurably effective, and

manufacturers and importers have found large use for the popularized

consular reports. But with a single exception there has been no near

approach to the possibilities of cheap and helpful publicity in any

department at Washington. The exception I have in mind is the Forest

Service (applause). Do you know why the country knows so much more about

forest conditions and the employed and proposed measures for their

improvement than it knows about irrigation, reclamation, the use of the

rivers, the potentialities of water-power, or the conservation of coal

or oil or minerals? It is because the Forest Service, under the

direction of Mr Gifford Pinchot, established a news service of such a

character that the press of the country used its output freely and

without the cost of one cent to the Government other than the cost of

putting the matter in form acceptable to the press. (Applause)

For some reason it was proposed, a couple of years ago, to prohibit, by

Congressional enactment, the continuance of this publicity. But the

effort resulted only in a complete vindication of the service. It was

shown that only legitimate news had been given out, and that this news

had appeared in an average of 9,000,000 copies of newspapers per month.

These figures were based on clippings procured through the clipping

bureaus, and did not include many publications that must have escaped

the clippers.

Now, if it had been undertaken to place this same matter before the same

number of readers through the medium of the formal and technical reports

of the department, the cost would have been more than 100 times as

great--and nobody would have read them.

As an illustration that newspapers want more Conservation news than they

are getting through regular channels: A number of publishers recently

formed a special Conservation service, which they maintained in

Washington, whose business it is to follow exclusively the developments

of this movement. But this service cannot be made what it should be made

if the Government does not cooperate in this policy of needed publicity.

Considering the waste that is incurred in the publishing of Government

documents that have no popular educational value, it seems well nigh

preposterous that there should not be ample provision, out of a saving

that could be made by cutting off this waste, for the publication of

matter that the people want and the newspapers stand ready to print free

of cost. It would be no more absurd for this Congress to go into

executive session, bar these gentlemen of the press from its

deliberations, and assume that the official report of your proceedings,

which will be printed in the due course of time, would furnish

sufficient publicity for the work of this convention. As it is, you have

a circulation of tens of millions daily for your output. (Applause)

* * * * *

Chairman CLAPP--Ladies and Gentlemen: We often find a man who excels

along some one line of work. The well-rounded man is the one who studies

along every line; the truly great man _is_ the well-rounded man, the man

who studies the forces which make for the conditions in which he lives.

We have such a man in this city, of whom we are all justly proud; a man

who long ago, in the forge of hope and courage, welded his own fate with

the possibilities of the then undeveloped Northwest, and who has lived

to see the prophecies born of a study of conditions mature and develop

in a splendid empire. It affords me great pleasure to present to you one

who will speak on the subject of "Soils and Crops, Food and

Clothing"--Mr James J. Hill, of Saint Paul. (Great and prolonged

applause)

* * * * *

Mr HILL--Mr Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: I do not intend to take much

of your time this afternoon, but I hope to bring before you some

thoughts that may suggest the practical side of the subject we have to

consider at this Congress. In order to make myself clearly understood

and to be exact in my statements I will ask your indulgence in allowing

me to read what I have to say:

Every movement that affects permanently a nation's life passes through

three stages. First it is the abstract idea, understood by few. Next it

is the subject of agitation and earnest general discussion. Third, after

it has won its way to a sure place in the national life, comes the era

of practical adaptation. Mistakes and extravagances due to the

enthusiasm of friends or the malice of enemies are corrected, details

are fitted to actual needs, the divine idea is harnessed to the common

needs of man. In this stage, which the Conservation movement has now

reached, the most difficult and important work must be done.

In our own history and in that of other nations we have seen this

process many times repeated. Public education was an abstract idea in

the time of Plato, a controversy of the Renaissance, and is still only

partly realized. Back of all written records lived the man who first saw

a vision of government universal, equal, free and just. But the world

has not yet achieved the final adaptation of this mighty conception to

man as we find him. Democracy is still in the fighting stage.

Only a few years have passed since it first dawned upon a people who had

reveled in plenty for a century that the richest patrimony is not proof

against constant and careless waste; that a nation of spenders must take

thought for its morrow or come to poverty. The first actual Conservation

work of this Government was done in forestry, following the example of

European countries. It soon became evident that our mineral resources

should receive equal though less urgent care. The supreme importance of

conserving the most important resource of all, the wealth of the soil

itself, was realized. In an address delivered four years ago this month

before the Agricultural Society of this State, I first stated fully the

problem that we have to meet and the method of its solution. With their

great capacity for assimilating a new and valid thought, the people of

this country were soon interested. Belief in a comprehensive system of

Conservation of all resources has now taken possession of the public

mind. What remains to be done is that most difficult of all the tasks of

statesmanship--the application of an accepted principle and making it

conform in all its general outlines to the common good.

To pack the fact into a single statement, the need of the hour and the

end to which this Congress should devote itself is to conserve

Conservation. It has come into that peril which no great truth

escapes--the danger that lurks in the house of its friends. It has been

used to forward that serious error of policy, the extension of the

powers and activities of the National Government at the expense of those

of the States. The time is ripe and this occasion is most fitting for

distinguishing between real and fanciful Conservation, and for

establishing a sound relation of means to ends. (Applause)

We should first exclude certain activities that come only indirectly

under the term, "Conservation." The Reclamation Service is one. Its work

is not preservation, but utilization. The arid lands of this country

have been where they now are, the streams have flowed past them

uselessly ever since Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden. Irrigation

was practiced in prehistoric time. What we have to do is to bring modern

methods to the aid of one of the oldest agricultural arts. It is

mentioned here because its progress illustrates the dangers that beset

Conservation projects proper. They are dangers inseparable from National

control and conduct of affairs. The machine is too big and too distant;

its operation is slow, cumbrous, and costly. So slow is it that settlers

are waiting in distress for water promised long ago. So faulty has been

the adjustment of time and money that Congress has had to authorize the

issue of $20,000,000 of National obligations to complete projects still

hanging in the air. So expensive is it that estimates have been exceeded

again and again. The settler has had either to pay more than the cost

figure he relied on or seek cheaper land in Canada. It costs the

Government from 50 percent more to twice as much as it would private

enterprise to put water on the land (applause). Under the Lower

Yellowstone project the charge is $42.50 per acre, and one dollar per

acre annually for maintenance. The Sunnyside project carries a charge of

$52 per acre, and 95 cents maintenance. Under the North Platte project

the charge is $45 per acre, plus a maintenance charge not announced.

These projects, in widely separated localities, entail a land charge

prohibitive to the frontier settlers to provide homes for those for

whom this work was believed to have been undertaken. The pioneer settler

who can pay, even in ten annual installments, from $3,500 to $4,000 for

eighty acres of land, in addition to the yearly fee per acre, must have

some other resources to aid him. The work of irrigation would have been

more cheaply done if turned over to private enterprise or committed to

the several States within which lie the lands to be reclaimed

(applause). This is not a criticism upon any individual. It is merely

one more proof of the excessive cost of Government work. (Applause)

Toward the conservation of our mineral resources little can be done by

Federal action. The output is determined not by the mine owner, but by

the consumer. The withdrawal of vast areas of supposed coal lands tends

to increase price by restricting the area of possible supply. Nor can

such deposits be utilized eventually except under some such system as is

now employed. It is foolish to talk of leasing coal lands in small

quantities in order to prevent monopoly. Mining must be carried on upon

a large enough scale to be commercially possible. The lessee of a small

area could not afford to install the necessary machinery and provide

means of transportation without charging for the product a prohibitory

price. The land should not be leased by the acre, but by the quantity of

coal contained in the land (applause). A vein four feet thick contains

about 4,000 tons to the acre; in many fields there are three, four,

five, and six veins containing from fifteen to thirty feet of coal, or

from fifteen to thirty thousand tons to the acre. What we want is

intelligent understanding of the situation (applause). Under too

restrictive conditions the coal would remain in the ground indefinitely.

The people of the West see little practical difference between a

resource withheld entirely from use and a resource dissipated or

exhausted. They understand by Conservation the most economical

development and best care of resources. It is the only definition

consistent with the natural growth of communities in the history of the

civilized world.

The prairie States are more interested than any other in the question of

cheap fuel. We do not depend on Alaska for our future supply. There is

abundant coal on the Pacific Coast nearer to our seaports and commercial

centers. Vancouver Island is underlain with it; today, while the

railroad companies with which I am connected bought coal lands on Puget

Sound, which they still own, we are prepared to burn oil from California

instead of coal. I speak of that as a practical reason why we should,

before we leap, look to see what the actual conditions are. Then, to say

nothing of Nova Scotia on the Eastern coast, there is coal in

Spitzbergen, within the Arctic Circle, actually nearer our Eastern

markets than the coal of Alaska. While we lament the exhaustion of our

coal supply, we maintain a tariff that compels us to draw upon it

continuously. It would be well to cast out this beam before we worry too

much over the Conservation mote. (Applause)

The iron deposits of Minnesota, the most wonderful in the world, are

today not only furnishing industry in the Nation with its raw material,

but are piling up a school fund at home that is the envy of other States

and adding more and more every year to the contents of the State

treasury. Minnesota is considering the reduction of her general tax levy

by one-half. Would it be better if these lands were today held idle and

unproductive by the Federal Government, or worked only on leases whose

proceeds went into the Federal treasury and enabled Congress to squander

a few more millions in annual appropriations? (Applause)

Against some forestry theories the West enters an even stronger plea.

What the United States needs is neither reckless destruction nor an

embargo upon our splendid Western commonwealths by locking up a

considerable portion of their available area. There were, by the last

report of the Forest Service, over 194,500,000 acres withdrawn from use

in our forest reserves on June 30, 1909. Of this, nearly 58 percent,

over 112,000,000 acres, or 175,000 square miles, lies in six Western

States. That is an area six-sevenths the size of Germany or France. It

is 80 percent of the size of the unappropriated and unreserved land in

those six States. How are the cities, towns, and villages in those

States to grow if so large a portion of the land is closed to the

husbandman? I received today an official statement of the entire amount

of public land withdrawn from settlement, and it is astounding. In area

it is greater than the thirteen original States; it is nearly as great

as New England, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland,

Virginia, West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Ohio, Indiana, and

Illinois (applause). And at the same time, we are driving this year not

less than 100,000 American farmers to the Canadian Northwest to seek

homes there (applause). Now, I say to you that the area of this total

withdrawal for various purposes of the public domain is greater than the

cultivatable area of the entire Canadian Northwest.

The forest reserves and the lands conveyed by Congressional grants to

private interests in Oregon amount to some 50,000 square miles. More

than half the area of this great State has been withdrawn by action of

the Government in one way or another from cultivation and the enjoyment

and profit of the people of the State. Over one-third of Idaho and 27

percent of Washington are forest reserves. Colorado is almost as badly

off; and not more than 30 percent of its forest reserves is covered with

merchantable timber, while about 40 percent has no timber at all. On the

Olympic peninsula are lands reported to be withdrawn to conserve our

water supply where the annual rainfall amounts to something like seven

to ten feet (laughter). According to the official report, the cost of

administering the Forest Service in 1909 was a little short of three

million dollars, and the receipts were $1,800,000. The deficit on

current account alone was over $1,100,000. The total disbursements were

over $4,400,000, and the actual deficit $2,600,000. Now, we should be

liberal in our grants for the care of our public forests. We should also

closely scrutinize the manner of their care. The present season has seen

an enormous destruction in the value of the timber in the forest

reserves. Our company, for over two months, has had from 800 to 1,000

men at work doing nothing else but trying to put out the fires in the

forest reserves. (Applause)

The Forest Service has over 2,000 employes. In 1909 they planted 611

acres, and sowed 1,126 acres more. The West believes in forest

preservation. But it believes practically and not theoretically. It

realizes that a good thing may cost too much, and is not ignorant of the

extravagant financial tendency of every Federal department and bureau.

It wants all good agricultural land open to the settler, wherever it may

be situated. It wants timber resources conservatively utilized, and not

wasted or destroyed.

In connection with forestry interests there is just now much question of

the conservation of water-power sites. The demand is that Federal lands

forming such sites should be withdrawn and leased for the profit and at

the pleasure of the Federal Government. Against this the whole West

rightly protests. The water-power differs from the coal deposit in that

it is not destroyed by use. It will do its undiminished work as long as

the rains fall and the snows melt. Not the resource but the use of it is

a proper subject for Conservation and regulation. To withdraw these

sources of potential wealth from present utilization is to take just so

much from the industrial capital of the States in which they are

situated.

The attempted Federal control of water-powers is illegal, because the

use of the waters within a State is the property of the State and cannot

be taken from it (applause), and that the State may and actually does,

in the case of Idaho for example, perfectly safeguard its water-powers

from monopoly and make them useful without extortion has been shown

conclusively by Senator Borah in a speech in the United States Senate in

which this whole subject is admirably covered. Back in our history

beyond the memory of most men now living there was the same controversy

over the public domain. Ought it to be administered by the Government

and disposed of for its profit, or opened to the people and shared with

the States? Let experience determine which was the better guardian. The

worst scandals of State land misappropriation, and there were many, are

insignificant when compared with the record of the Nation. The total

cash receipts of the Federal Government from the disposal of public and

Indian lands from 1785 to 1909 were $423,451,673. The money is gone. It

has been expended, wisely or unwisely, with other treasury receipts. It

would be interesting to know how much the above sum exceeded the cost of

administration. To go back 125 years and dig up the cost of the

administration of public lands would be more of a task than I have time

for, but I took the last report of the General Government, and in the

disbursements of the Interior Department I found that the cost of

administering the public lands was in 1907 $17,421,000, in 1908

$15,190,000, in 1909 $14,441,000. Now if we take the entire proceeds of

all the public lands sold, including the Indian lands, it averages

$3,400,000 a year for the 125 years during which it has been sold; and

we find here that the cost of administering the greatly reduced estate

is from three to five times as much as the total receipts would average

(applause). But certain limited areas of lands were conveyed to the

States for educational purposes. The permanent common school funds,

State and local, conserved by the States, amount to $246,943,349. The

estimated value of productive school lands today is $138,851,634, and of

unproductive $86,347,482. Add to these the land grant funds of colleges

of agriculture and the mechanic arts, and the total is merely half a

billion dollars. To what magnitude these great funds, now jealously

guarded for educational purposes by the States, may grow in time we

cannot even guess. Some may eventually provide amply for all educational

needs of their States forever. This is one telling proof of the superior

fidelity of the commonwealth as custodian of any trust for future

generations.

There remains an opportunity and a need of Conservation transcending in

value all others combined. The soil is the ultimate employer of all

industry and the greatest source of all wealth (applause). It is the

universal banker. Upon the maintenance, unimpaired in quantity and

quality, of the tillable area of the country its whole future is

conditioned. Four years ago, and on many occasions since, I presented

the facts and statistics that make land conservation incomparably the

paramount issue with all who have at heart the prosperity of our people

and the permanence of our institutions. It is unnecessary to repeat in

detail what has now become matter of common knowledge and is accessible

to all. For the last ten years the average wheat yield in the United

States was 14.1 bushels, while in Germany it was 28.7 and in the United

Kingdom 32.6. This is a measure of our general agriculture. The cattle

other than milch cows on farms in the United States are over 4,000,000

fewer than they were three years ago. The number of hogs declined

7,000,000 in the last three years, and is less than it was twenty years

ago. The increase in total value of food products is due to a great

extent to higher prices. This failure to conserve soil fertility and

maintain the agricultural interest is expressed in recent changes in our

foreign trade. These are more than mere balance sheets; since, as you

know, variations in international trade balances may produce

wide-reaching effects upon all industry.

While our total foreign trade last year was only a little less than the

high record made in 1907, the distribution of it was vastly different.

For the last fiscal year our imports were nearly $240,000,000 in excess

of those for the same period in 1909, and $303,000,000 above those of

1908. Our exports were more by $82,000,000 only than in 1909, and were

nearly $116,000,000 less than in 1908. In 1908 the excess of exports

over imports was $666,000,000; by 1910 it had fallen to $187,000,000. We

are buying more lavishly and selling less because there is less that we

can spare--yet, my friends, that $187,000,000 of balance of trade due to

this country is not enough to pay the extravagant traveling expenses of

our "globe trotters" who are annually passing from one end of Europe to

the other. (Applause)

A glance at the following table of our exports for the last five years

in three great schedules dependent directly on the soil tells the whole

story:

Meat and Dairy Cattle, Sheep

Breadstuffs Products and Hogs

1906 $186,468,901 $210,990,065 $43,516,258

1907 184,120,702 202,392,508 35,617,074

1908 215,260,588 192,802,708 30,235,621

1909 159,929,221 166,521,949 18,556,736

1910 133,191,330 130,632,783 12,456,109

With the exception of the increase in breadstuffs in 1907-8, caused by

our desperate need to send something abroad that would bring in money to

stay a panic, the decline is constant and enormous. A continuance of

similar conditions--and no change is in sight--must mean partial food

famine and hardship prices in the home market; an annual indebtedness

abroad which, having no foodstuffs to spare, we must pay in cash; and

financial depression and industrial misfortune because we have drawn too

unwisely upon the soil. This impending misfortune, only the conservation

of a neglected soil and all the interests connected with it can avert.

The saving feature of the situation is the interest already awakened in

agricultural improvements; an interest which it should be the first

object of this Congress to deepen and preserve. Much has been done, but

it is only a beginning. The experiment station; the demonstration farm;

agricultural instruction in public schools; emphasis upon right

cultivation, seed selection, and fertilization through the keeping of

live stock, all these are slowly increasing the agricultural product and

raising the index of soil values. The work being done by the

Agricultural Department under the care of our old Iowa friend, Secretary

Wilson--who is a farmer from choice (applause)--is scientifically

selecting the good from the bad and the wise from unwise methods, and

the information is within the reach of every farmer of this country who

will only put out his hand and ask for it. (Applause)

But the work moves more slowly than our needs. The possibilities are

great. One might make the comparison with current agriculture elsewhere

almost at random, since European Russia is the only first-class country

more backward than our own. Take the smallest and what might be

supposed the least promising illustration: Denmark's area is about twice

that of Massachusetts. It is occupied by more than two and a half

million people. This Jutland was originally land of inferior fertility.

What has been done with it? Denmark is now called "the model farm of

Europe." Her exports of horses, cattle, bacon and lard, butter and eggs,

amounted in 1908 to nearly $89,000,000. Mr Frederic C. Howe in a recent

article says: "The total export trade is approximately $380 for every

farm, of which 133,000 of the 250,000 are of less than 13-1/2 acres in

extent, the average of all the farms being but 43 acres for the entire

country. The export business alone amounts to nine dollars per acre, in

addition to the domestic consumption, as well as the support of the

farmer himself." One-half the population are depositors in the savings

banks, with an average deposit of $154. How have these things been

accomplished?

First negatively, it has not been done by any artificial means or

legislative hocus-pocus (applause). No bounty and no subsidy has any

share in the national prosperity. The ruler of the country is the small

farmer. He cultivates his acres as we cultivate a garden. He raises

everything that belongs to the land. He fertilizes it by using every

ounce of material from his live stock, and by purchasing more

fertilizers when necessary. There are 42 high schools and 29

agricultural colleges in this little country with a population less than

that of Massachusetts in 1900. Whatever else they teach, agriculture is

taught first, last, and all the time, to young and old alike. The Dane

is a farmer, and is proud of it. England and Ireland and Germany are

studying his methods today. No people could imitate them with more

profit than our own. (Applause)

Recent good years have brought the average wheat yield per acre in the

United States up to over fourteen bushels. Twice that would be

considered poor in Great Britain and an average crop in Germany.

Therefore twenty-five bushels per acre is a reasonable possibility for

us. Suppose we raise it. The present wheat acreage of the United States

is about 46,500,000 acres on the average. If it gave 25 bushels per

acre, the crop would amount to 1,162,500,000 bushels. At our present

rate of production and consumption we may cease to be a wheat exporting

Nation within the next ten or fifteen years, perhaps earlier. With the

larger yield we could supply all our own wants and have a surplus of

400,000,000 bushels for export. This is no fancy picture, but a

statement of plain fact. Is there any other field where Conservation

could produce results so immense and so important? Is there any other

where it bears so directly upon our economic future, the stability of

our Government, the well-being of our people?

Any survey of practical Conservation would be imperfect if it omitted

the almost desperate necessity at this time of conserving capital and

credit. This subject deserves full and separate treatment. No more is

possible here than to summarize some of the facts and conclusions

presented by me to the Conservation Conference that assembled in this

city a few months ago. Conservation of cash and credit is important to

the farmer as it saves or wastes results of his work, and his work

furnishes the greater part of the Nation's wealth. Our States, including

cities and minor civil subdivisions, have run in debt about

three-quarters of a billion dollars in the last twelve years. Public

expenditure is increasing everywhere. Public economy is a virtue either

lost or despised. From 1890 to 1902 the aggregate expenditures of all

the States increased 103 percent. Boston's tax levy, says Brooks Adams

in a late article including this among the serious problems of modern

civilization, was $3.20 per capita in 1822, while now it is nearly $30.

The per capita cost of maintaining the Federal Government was $2.14 in

1880, $4.75 in 1890, $6.39 in 1900, and $7.56 in 1908. The total

appropriations voted by Congress for the four years from 1892 to 1896

were $1,871,509,578; for the four years from 1904 to 1908 they were

$3,842,203,577. An increase of $2,000,000,000 in expense for two

four-year periods with only eight years between them should give any

people pause. Spendthrift man and spendthrift Nation must face at last

the same law carrying the same penalty.

If anyone believes that this growth of expenditure is a consequence of

the general material growth of the country, let him study the following

brief table of comparative statistics. It establishes the indictment of

national extravagance:

Increases

Wealth 1870 to 1890 116.0% 1890 to 1904 65.0%

Foreign Trade 1870 to 1890 99.0% 1890 to 1908 85.4%

Value Manufactured Product 1870 to 1890 121.0% 1890 to 1905 58.0%

Net Ordinary Exp. U. S. Govt 1870 to 1890 1.4% 1890 to 1908 121.4%

Expenditures of 30 States 1890 to 1909 201.6%

This debauch of capital and credit has sent a poison circulating through

the veins of the Nation. Everywhere the individual imitates the

profligacy of his Government. Industry and saving are at a discount. Any

luxury, any extravagance is warranted if funds for it can be raised by

wasting capital or creating debt. There is just so much less money for

productive employment: for payrolls and the extension of commerce and

industries, and the creation of those new facilities for want of which

the commerce of the country is and always must be limited (applause).

Hence come also high prices, curtailment of business, distrust, and

eventual distress. Hence come waste and idleness, and the increased cost

of production that makes both business and employment slow and insecure.

Any Conservation movement worthy of the name must place high upon its

program the saving of capital and credit from the rapacious hands of

socialist as well as monopolist (applause). Extravagance is undermining

the industry of this country as surely as the barbarians broke down and

looted that mighty empire with whose civilization and progress Ferrero

repeatedly insists that ours has so much in common.

We must stand for Conservation everywhere; in the tedious as well as in

the interesting application; where it cuts into our pleasure and habits,

and jostles our comfortable, easy-going ways of thought, just as firmly

as where it is hand in glove with self-interest. This is, above all

things, an economic question. It is neither personal nor political. In

such petty and partial interests it has found its worst obstructions and

encountered its most serious reverses.

The tariff in some respects is a great enemy of Conservation (applause).

Whatever we may think of it as a general industrial policy, everyone can

see that, by excluding the raw products of other countries, it throws

the entire burden of their consumption upon our own resources, and thus

exhausts them unnecessarily (applause). This appears clearly when we

consider such commodities as we might obtain from Canada, a country that

gained nearly 400,000 immigrants from the United States in the nine

years up to April, 1909, and has probably taken another hundred thousand

since; a country where it is absurd to talk about any actual advantage

in the wage scale as compared with our own. The tariff on forest

products cuts down our own forests, a tariff on coal depletes our mines,

a tariff on any raw material forbids the conservation of similar natural

resources here. (Applause).

This Congress announced from the first its purpose to deal with the

subject of Conservation in a practical spirit. The present condition of

the movement, now in the third stage of its development, demands it. We

have to apply the Conservation principle, as we have eventually to apply

every other, to our domestic economics; to work it out in the experience

and practice of everyday life. How this may be done can be stated in the

form of a few conclusions that raise the word Conservation from the name

of a more or less vague, diffuse, and disputable theory to that of a

practical guide to legislation and administration. (Applause)

Conservation is wholly an economic, not in any sense a political

principle (applause). The Nation has suffered and still suffers so much

from transferring other economic questions to politics that the mistake

should not be repeated (applause). Whoever attempts to make Conservation

the bone of a personal controversy or the beast of burden to carry any

faction into power or popularity is its worst enemy. (Great applause)

"Conservative" is the adjective corresponding to the noun

"Conservation." Any other attitude toward this movement, either radical

or reactionary, is treason to its name and to its spirit. It should mean

no more and no less than dealing with our resources in a spirit of

intelligence, honesty, care for both the present and the future, and

ordinary business common sense. (Applause)

Conservation does not mean forbidding access to resources that could be

made available for present use. It means the freest and largest

development of them consistent with the public interest and without

waste. A bag of gold buried in the earth is useless for any purpose. So

is an acre untilled, a mine unopened, a forest that bars the way to

homes and human happiness.

The determination in each case as to what extent a given resource should

be utilized and how far reserved for the future is an intensely

practical, individual, and above all a local question. It should be

carefully considered in all its aspects by both Nation and State, and

should finally rest within lines determined by proper legislation, as

far as may be under the control of local authority. (Applause)

Experience proves that resources are not only best administered but best

protected from marauders by the home people who are most deeply

interested and who are just as honest, just as patriotic and infinitely

better informed on local conditions than the National Government can

possibly be. (Applause) It is clear that every one of the many problems

all over the country can be better understood where they are questions

of the lives and happiness of those directly interested.

Behind this, as behind every great economic issue, stand moral issues.

Shall we, on the one side, deny to ourselves and our children access to

the same store of natural wealth by which we have won our own

prosperity, or, on the other, leave it unprotected as in the past

against the spoiler and the thief? Shall we abandon everything to

centralized authority, going the way of every lost and ruined government

in the history of the world, or meet our personal duty by personal labor

through the organs of local self-government, not yet wholly atrophied by

disuse? Shall we permit our single dependence for the future, the land,

to be defertilized below the point of profitable cultivation and

gradually abandoned, or devote our whole energy to the creation of an

agriculture which will furnish wealth renewed even more rapidly than it

can be exhausted? Shall we permit the continued increase of public

expenditure and public debt until capital and credit have suffered in

the same conflict that overthrew prosperous and happy nations in the

past, or insist upon a return to honest and practicable economy? This is

the battle of the ages, the old, familiar issue. Is there in the country

that intelligence, that self-denial, that moral courage, and that

patriotic devotion which alone can bring us safely through? (Applause)

I ask these questions not because there is any doubt of the answer in

the minds of the American people, but that it may be made plain what a

complex fabric the fates are weaving from the apparently commonplace

happenings of our peaceful years, and how each generation and each epoch

must render an account for the work of its own days. The unprecedented

dignity of this assemblage, its nationally representative character, the

presence here of those upon whom great occasions wait, the interest

felt by millions who look to it for information and guidance, prove how

deep beneath the surface lie the sources of its existence and its

influence. Out of the Conservation movement in its practical application

to our common life may come wealth greater than could be won by the

overthrow of kingdoms and the annexation of provinces; National prestige

and individual well-being; the gift of broader mental horizons; and,

best and most necessary of all, the quality of a National citizenship

which has learned to rule its own spirit and to rise by the control of

its own desires. (Great applause)

* * * * *

Chairman CLAPP--Ladies and Gentlemen: One among the recognized agencies

for the spread of information in relation to our agricultural

development is a paper published in Iowa by Mr Henry Wallace, who is

known to us all. A discussion will now be led by Mr Wallace, and I take

great pleasure in presenting him to this assemblage. (Applause)

* * * * *

Mr WALLACE--Mr Chairman, and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Congress: I

have been asked to discuss the subject opened up by my old friend--and

your friend--Mr James J. Hill.

With very much that he has said, I most heartily agree. He speaks on

these and other subjects "as one having authority, and not as the

scribes." While listening to him I have been trying to get in my own

mind a clear conception of certain fundamental questions that have been

discussed at this Congress, and around which the discussion turns. I

have been trying to put them in form, pointing out where he and I can

agree and where we differ.

I have come to the conclusion that a man has what he had, if he hasn't

sold or contracted to sell it, or allowed somebody to steal it; that the

United States has the resources that are now in the name of the United

States and not under contract to be delivered, and not sold--or

stolen--either in compliance with the letter of the law or in violation

of both letter and spirit. In other words, there are certain assets or

resources that we have and hold; and we all agree that the owner is

entitled to the management and use of his assets (applause), and

therefore that the people of the United States, as a people, are

entitled to the use of whatever resources we may have remaining

(applause). They are not for the benefit of any one man or any

combination of men (applause), neither of any State (applause) or

combination of States (applause), but for the whole people; therefore we

can sell our coal lands or keep them. We will be wise if we keep them

(applause). We can sell our forests, or say how they shall lie used, or

we can let somebody steal them. We can hold on to our phosphate (and

there is very little of these United States that won't be buying

phosphates in fifty years) or we can let somebody control and ship it to

Europe, to enable the Belgians and the Germans to grow 32 bushels of

wheat to the acre while we grow 13 (applause)--and by means of _our_

phosphates. Using the language of the President the other day to outline

the management of these resources (and he has done it better than any

other man I ever knew), we can lease the lands, we can control them, we

can prescribe how they shall be used. This much we all agree upon. And

we will further agree that the Congress of the United States, our

Representatives, must decide how it shall be done.

We can do one of three things: We can deed these lands and these

resources to the States, to be used as they think best. We can abdicate

our sovereignty--perhaps modifying that to some extent, we can outline

what the States shall do and what they shall not do, but that will

involve abdicating our sovereignty and will lead to perpetual quarrels

between the States (applause), such as now existing, for example,

between Colorado and Kansas as to the use of water. Or, as Canada does,

as Germany does, as Australia does, as Tasmania does, we can hold to

those resources and lease them for money for the benefit of the whole

people. (Applause)

Now, my good friend Mr Hill seems to have grave doubts as to the

capacity of the United States to handle its business with anything like

the same skill with which he handles his (laughter and applause). He

tells us that this Reclamation Service is costly--thirty, forty, or

fifty dollars an acre, to be paid in ten years without interest--for

what? To be able to make it rain just when we want to, and stop it when

we want to; that is what irrigation is (applause). And Mr Hill would

give five dollars an acre for twenty years if for all time and eternity

he, his descendants and his assigns, could make it rain when he wanted

to and make it stop when he wanted to (applause). Next to the owner of a

quarter-section of land in Iowa I think that the man who owns fifty

acres of irrigated land at fifty dollars an acre is a prince of the

blood royal (applause and cry of "Good!"). It is the cheapest land in

the United States, in the center of the highest civilization, the best

education and the best schools. Mr Hill tells us also that the United

States (I guess it was Solomon he had in his mind: he was the brother of

a great waster) has received $400,000,000 or so for its Indian lands--he

didn't know how much it cost to acquire them (millions, however)--and

that he doesn't know what has become of the money. Well, I found since

yesterday where some of it went--to this dam over here between

Minneapolis and Saint Paul (great laughter and applause). He tells us

that States are more economical than Nations. Now, isn't it a matter of

fact that both State and Nation have been playing the part of the

prodigal son, wasting our substance in riotous living--and that now we

smell the husks?

Gentlemen, the agricultural colleges have wasted a good deal of money.

The State of Iowa had a great grant of land for improvement, and I give

you my word you could run the whole thing through a barrel if you had

enough headway. We have been absolutely throwing away our

resources--just like some of our wealthy gentlemen down in New York

throw their daughters in the face of titled Nobodies asking them to take

them "with the compliments of the author" (laughter). If this country

continues to be governed, as it has been governed for the last twenty

years, by great combinations of capital that get together in Congress or

out of Congress to determine how much tariff they will levy and what

else they may do in the way of getting hold of the public domain, it

doesn't make a speck of difference whether our resources are governed by

the Government or by the States; they will all be stolen anyhow

(laughter and cheers, and cries of "Hit him again!")--just as they have

been in the past. (Renewed applause)

A VOICE: Conservation ought to have been started a hundred years ago.

Mr WALLACE: You're right. But if the people of the United States have

made up their minds that they are going to be in the future a Government

"of the people by the people and for the people"; if we mean this in

blood earnest (applause) and are willing to sacrifice our party

affiliations (cries of "Good, good, good!"); if we are willing to pay

money to attend conventions, without going on passes (cries of "You

bet!" and cheers); if we are willing to make the sacrifices which always

belong to a free government (applause)--then predatory wealth will no

longer sit in the seats of Congress, and we shall have a democracy, a

Government of the People instead of a Government of Plutocracy.

(Applause and cheers)

Gentlemen, it is just a question whether we have the stuff in us to

really be a great self-governing people, a Nation that stands

four-square to every wind that blows, that regards a law of the Almighty

as supreme law and right and the only manhood worth having as that which

comes in obedience to those great laws that govern men in all nations of

the world (applause and cheers); it is a question whether we will pay

the price for the liberties that our fathers gave us. (Applause)

Now, with about everything that my good friend Mr Hill has said on the

conservation of soil fertility I most heartily agree. I get an idea

about once a year (laughter), and am able to put it in a way that seems

fairly good to me: and for some time past I have been brooding over the

thought that the great problem before the American people--a problem

involving all other problems that vex us, tariffs, Conservation, trusts,

everything--that the great problem we have before us is _how to keep

enough skilled labor on the land to enable the farmer to sell his

products to the city at a price the people can afford to pay_. Now, just

let that soak into you (applause). The problem is to keep enough skilled

labor on the farm to enable the farmer to grow the food for this and

other nations at a price that the people in the cities can afford to

pay. It is the biggest problem before us. It involves all other

problems, when you come to trace it down to its roots. The farmer is

handicapped by the fact that he no longer tills virgin soil, as his

father and his grandfather did, and by the fact that he no longer has

timber at his door. We have wasted our magnificent forests of oak and

walnut, and given away an empire (for example, in Wisconsin) of the best

pine lands that some fellows would put a road through, to get the lumber

out under pretense of resisting a Canadian invasion (laughter and

applause). Today we are buying fertilizers for all New England, New

York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, southern Indiana, all the South, and even for

Missouri; it is only a question of time when we shall have to buy them

for all our land. Notwithstanding all of the millions of acres that have

been put into cultivation every year, our crop production lags behind

our population. In the last ten or fifteen years, our production of

wheat per acre gradually but slowly decreased until within the last

three or four years, when with my friend Secretary Wilson's help we

began to do a little better.

The farmer is handicapped by the fact that he is tilling a partially

infertile soil; he is handicapped worse in this way: he cannot possibly

get, for love or money, the really skilled labor required to maintain

the fertility of the soil while he is growing crops (applause). Why, you

know how difficult it is in the country to get a hired hand, and you

know that a hired girl in the home is a thing out of the question. There

isn't a man here ugly enough, if he is a widower, but what could get two

second wives where he could get one hired girl (laughter and applause).

Now, we cannot use the labor of the city. Let a man go to town and

become a lawyer or a doctor for ten or fifteen years, and then return to

the country, and what is he good for? He has to serve an apprenticeship

for four or five years before he is worth his board. We cannot use the

labor of southern Europe except in the wheat fields or in the orchards;

farm labor now is _skilled_ labor; and we haven't got it. One reason we

haven't got it is because my friend Mr Hill has been giving excursion

rates up to Canada (laughter and applause)--for the benefit of his

railroad, he says--and for the benefit of speculators who can paint a

desert to look like the Garden of Eden, and make farmers believe that it

is like the land of Egypt "as thou goest unto Zoar." If we could keep on

the farm the boys and girls that grow up there we could give the people

of the cities food at a price they could afford to pay; but there is the

great problem. I will not solve it now, because I would have to discuss

the tariff (laughter) and every other blooming thing that allures men to

town--including high wages and easy times.

Today the townsman is in trouble. The fact is that he cannot get the

farmer's products at anything like the price the farmer ought to have

(Voice: "Now you're talking"). The farmer never gets more than

two-thirds (Voice: "If he gets that"); frequently he gets one-third. Out

in Fresno, California, we found they made a first-class rate at four

cents on what I was paying sixteen cents for; the railroad got four

cents, the wholesaler four, the retailer four, and the farmer four--and

I pay sixteen. And there is another trouble (I am one of the

unfortunates so I look at both sides of the question): the farmer in

town pays 16 percent, so the merchants tell me, for the privilege of

ordering goods by telephone instead of going to the market and getting

them; and that is another reason he has to pay so much. But there is

still another matter with the city man; it is not so much the high cost

of living as the cost of high living and prosperous times (I borrowed

that from Mr Hill); for the man in town now isn't satisfied to live as

his father did, or his grandfather, or as he himself did ten or twenty

years ago (applause). Why, he wants strawberries from Texas in February,

and he wants green peas from Florida, and he wants fresh eggs at the

time when hens don't lay, and he wants spring chicken in the coldest

weather--and he gets it, but it comes out of cold storage (laughter).

That is one reason why the townsman cannot get farmer's products at the

price he can afford to pay.

Let us look a little further--but I must not detain you (Cries of "Go

on, go on, go on"). This problem has been growing on us for years; ever

since the iron rail and steam and electricity enabled us to build cities

far remote from the lake or the river or the ocean, ever since we

learned to get gold out of quarries instead of out of river sand, ever

since human power was multiplied by machinery, ever since railroads

netted the country with their systems: there has been a tendency to the

development of great cities and a constant decrease in the number of men

that work on the farm. We don't _think_ now as we used to, because

improved machinery (in most cases invented by farmers) has enabled the

farm boy of fifteen years of age to do the work of eight or ten men--and

at the same time has enabled him to rob the land more effectively than

ever before. And this problem would have been met long ago if it had not

been right here in this Mississippi valley there is the finest slice of

land that the Lord ever made, to be given away by our benevolent Uncle

Sam partly to the farmers and partly to the railroads--a country that

needed neither spade nor axe to fit it for the plow; for the last twenty

years we have been breaking it, mining it, robbing it, and selling its

fertility to enable men in the great cities to live cheaply in the Old

World and in this country (applause). The people of Kansas invited my

good friend Secretary Wilson and me down there to talk about

agriculture, and in going from our hotel to the place of meeting we

actually fell over bags of bran that were put out there to send to

Denmark to make butter and cheese to come back and be eaten in Kansas

(laughter). This is the way we have actually been selling, piecemeal,

our fertility. Why, you men remember when corn was sold at 15 and even

10 cents a bushel, and oats at 10-1/2--I myself have sold wheat at

38--lower than the cost of production. The people in cities all over the

world have an idea that it was foreordained from all eternity that they

should have cheap foods, but they are now waking up to the fact that we

have been postponing the day of judgment by selling foodstuffs for about

what the fertilizers would cost, if we had to buy them, to provide bread

and meat for the hungry nations. We have sold the buffalo grass on the

prairies to the people of Europe, in the shape of beef, dirt cheap; we

have built up great cities and States; and the people have all the while

thought that cheapness was normal, whereas we are now just getting to

the normal basis. For twenty years I could buy bread made from American

wheat, in the country on the farm, for three cents a pound, and now I

pay five cents in town--and don't get as good bread at that.

The real problem is, _how we are going to furnish bread to the people at

a price that they can afford to pay_? I have no hand-me-down solution

for that; it is the biggest problem that I know of, and I can venture

only some suggestions. First, we can add a little to our production

through irrigation. That is a slow process, and limited at best. We can

add some more by drainage. We can add a good deal to the yield per acre

by better methods of farming. But we are limited, as I have said,

largely by the lack of skilled labor. The merchant, the city man, if he

is to live on his income, must improve his system of distribution; he

must in some way or other, get rid of the go-betweens. Some things will

have to be done by railroads and some by Congress, and a number of

things will have to be done that they will all say _can't_ be done--I'm

tired of that story, that you _can't_ do anything. Our railroad friends

have told us that we can't pass interstate commerce laws, it's

unconstitutional; that we _can't_ stop the giving of passes and rebates,

that it's unconstitutional. Now, we have done all those things. _The

people of the United States can do anything that is right!_ (applause),

though they can't permanently succeed in doing wrong (applause); and

these things we have been told we _can't_ do we _have done_, and

everybody says it is right. Sometimes I take great comfort in watching

some of our great "captains of industry," railroad magnates like Mr

Hill. To see them you would imagine they had been reading the Psalms of

David and saying, "It was good for me that I was afflicted; before I was

afflicted I went astray, but now I love"--the Interstate Commerce Law

(laughter). The trouble with them is that they turn round and oppose our

railroad laws, and the measures brought up by the voice of the people,

and insist that they _can't_ be enforced.

If the farmers are to sell their products in sufficient quantities to

cities at a price that they can afford to pay, the calm and considerate

judgment and the earnest cooperation of every class of our people are

needed. We have problems before us that cannot be settled today or

tomorrow; they involve questions of deep statesmanship; and they never

can be settled until they are settled right, on a basis that is just.

And I have this faith in the American people, that notwithstanding all

their mistakes and all their follies and all their extravagances and all

their partisan differences, down at the bottom they are an honest

people, they are an intelligent people, and they are a people that seem

to have an instinct of danger and an instinctive perception of what is

fundamentally and inherently right. (Prolonged applause)

* * * * *

Mr HILL--I want to apologize to Brother Wallace because I did not make

myself entirely understood when I indicated that $50 or $42 or $45 an

acre for Government-irrigated land is too high. He says that I would

give $100--and I would, if I had to; but if that land were left with

private enterprises, or if the _people of the State_ alongside of this

$42 and $45 and $50 land were putting water on their land for $15, I

wouldn't charge the settler $50 or $42. (Laughter and applause)

* * * * *

Chairman CLAPP--Ladies and Gentlemen: There is a tradition in Washington

that the present very efficient Secretary of Agriculture established the

Department of Agriculture, because of his long service in that position.

I have to dispel that illusion. Nevertheless his service has made that

Department what it is today; and I take great pleasure in presenting to

you Secretary Wilson. (Great applause)

* * * * *

Secretary WILSON--Mr Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: I have enjoyed the

two last speeches more than anything else I have heard since I have been

here, although I have never attended a meeting anywhere that I can

remember where there were so many big men who do things in the world.

The greatest regret I have is that there must be more than a hundred men

here well worth hearing who will not have opportunity to speak on

account of lack of time.

Mr Hill and Mr Wallace have talked about things that I have not done.

Fourteen years ago I went down to Washington with President McKinley to

do something with the Department of Agriculture. I could see right well

from tendencies that had originated some time previous a growing and a

development that now at this present time have come to a head. I saw the

necessity for Conservation of the natural utilities of this country, the

necessity for Conservation of soils and forests and water-powers and all

those things; and I went to work. I have never gone to Congress to get

help or money without getting it at once. If I have failed to do

something for agriculture, the fault is mine and not that of Congress,

because they have never criticized me, except that I have not asked for

enough money.

I have found it necessary to educate men, or to have them educated,

along new lines. Search history as far back as you see fit to go, and

you will find that there has been no education whatever for the farmer.

The classical education, so beautifully spoken about by our friend from

Tulane University (President Craighead), is a beautiful education; but

there is no agriculture in it. It is a difficult thing to change the

education of a people; even our religion is interwoven, like our

literature, with the old-fashioned classical education. The country was

regarded as valuable and the professions went to the country to get new

men because the old wore out in the town, and so the farm has always

reinforced the professions; and the practice has gone on until today the

American Navy is being reinforced even from the farms of Minnesota and

Iowa. The average boy who lives in town knows too much about things he

shouldn't know, and the boy on the farm or in the country knows little

about the things that wouldn't do him any good if he did know them

(laughter). My first problem was to organize a Department of Agriculture

by training men to go safely where there were but few blazings through

the woods.

Mr Hill and Mr Wallace have both spoken wisely of the soil. That is the

source of our wealth. When our good people travel abroad, the farmer

pays the bill; when you beautiful ladies purchase diamonds--and

sometimes bring them back in your hats--the farmer pays the bill

(laughter). Of course, since the Civil War the farmer has been keeping

the balance of trade in our favor--has paid all our foreign debts, has

paid the cost of our wars, has paid all the expenses of shipments to

foreign ports; but a new day has come. While the farm has been producing

considerably more and its area has been increasing, certain things have

occurred that have a momentous influence on the present and on the

future. We have not been producing so fast as we have been increasing in

population; it costs too much to get breakfast and dinner and supper,

and we eat three times a day. The serious problem which presents itself

to us now is that _it costs too much to live_. I never want to see the

day come when the American workingman shall be reduced to the condition

of the European who makes his dinner on bread alone and still lives.

(Applause)

What are the prospects of getting cheaper food to eat? Do we want to

bring men from Central America? They are diseased. Do we want to bring

them from Mexico? They are not adapted to our climate. We do not care to

bring them in much from Canada, because they have no corn up there, and

don't eat that kind of food. I see some rays of hope in our leaden sky.

The South has in the past suffered from a pest known as the cattle-tick

which prevents the development of domestic animals, and they have not

given us as much meat as we have shipped to them; but Congress gave my

Department money to try to get rid of this tick, and we have been at

work for three years and have cleared the pest from the equivalent of an

area of three great States, 140,000 square miles (applause), and it will

not be many years until all the South is cleared of the cattle-tick.

Then the southern States will begin to contribute materially to our food

production, because they have a mild winter, they have intelligent

people, they have transportation systems; all they need is a little

better system of agriculture. We have also been dealing with an invasion

from Guatemala for some time, the boll weevil. The question was whether

the poor people in that section could sustain life under the burden of

this pest, and they came to my Department to go down and do something;

and in checking the pest we are meeting the need for improved

agriculture and increased production of foodstuffs.

There are two prominent ways of increasing the producing capacity of a

people: First, there is Conservation demonstration (we shall be using

this word "Conservation" in our prayers if we don't look out).

(Laughter) Last year we had 12,500 boys in four southern States, all

under sixteen years of age, each of whom grew an acre of corn--the South

never grew as much corn in its history as it did last year--and some of

those boys grew over 150 bushels to the acre (applause). They sold it at

different prices. They were promised, as an encouragement, free tickets

to Washington to see the President and the Capitol, and that the

Secretary would give them diplomas. Well, I thought little about this

until in marched the boys--looking very serious--each exactly like a man

who is getting an LL.D. from a university. The first view of those boys

was amusing, but the next one to me was very pathetic. A diploma, you

know, is given to a man or a woman who does good work in a college

course. Didn't the boy who grew 150 bushels of corn to the acre _do_

something? He did; he did the best there was in him; he put his will

into the work. I signed the diplomas, and those boys went out as proud

as any boys ever went away from a university. This year we have 50,000

boys in the southern States, each under sixteen years of age, each

growing an acre of something, each getting lessons and hints in all

directions from everybody that can give them, with regard to how to grow

crops; we have 400 agents in the South.

Now let me tell you something. You will find in every northern and

eastern and western State a minority of good farmers and, I am compelled

to confess, a majority of poor farmers. They don't know how to farm;

they have yet to learn. Where did bad farming begin, do you think? Why,

back in the eastern States where they do everything well--except

farming. Now where is there worse farming than there? I believe that the

President of Tulane University used to live there; perhaps he can tell

us. When I was a boy I went to church on Sunday and to prayer meeting in

the middle of the week--I had to (laughter)--but they didn't educate the

boys toward the farms; they educated them toward the professions, toward

the mechanic arts, toward the factories. And when they were big enough

and had an education they left the farm, they left the father and mother

there, and by and by when the father and mother couldn't farm any more

they rented out the farm--and today the same thing is beginning in

Iowa. I can't tell you what is happening in Minnesota; you people who

live here must be the judges whether the same robbery of the soil is

beginning in Minnesota. A soil robber is a man who grows grain and hay

to sell from the farm and puts nothing back; that is what he is, and

that is where he originated--back East.

And we began manufacturing in our country at the time we began robbing

our soil. The last half-century we have built up our manufactories at an

astonishing rate. Why have we built them up so fast; why have they risen

to such tremendous figures? Because our people were fed cheaper and

better than the people who worked in factories in any other country. But

what is the condition now? Are our people still better fed and more

cheaply that work in the factories, that work for the railroads, that

work in the mines? No! There is where the trouble comes; that is what

has arrested the attention of our people. Every year, maybe oftener (Mr

Hill could tell better than I can), the men that work for railroads

notify the president that they want more wages because they can't live;

and of course he has to raise their wages. While we were feeding Europe,

there was no difficulty in getting cheap food here in the United States

for our workingmen; but, as Mr Hill told you, and gave you statistics

for it--it is pretty hard to follow a man like him, who has all the

statistics, and Dr Wallace, who has all the philosophy and wit, but I

will do the best I can (laughter)--we are sending less and less food to

foreign countries and paying more and more for what our workingmen eat

at home. We are not paying off debts any more, though our people are

still buying diamonds and pearls--you see the rows we are having in New

York when our traveling Americans come back, and want to get their

jewels through the custom-house for nothing and hide them and all that;

I have no sympathy with it--but we are not discussing the tariff here at

all; I never talk politics and won't allow it; I have 12,000 men in my

Department and every man knows I'll discharge him in a minute if he

talks politics (laughter and applause); we are considering the natural

resources of the country and trying to conserve them. (Applause and

cries of "Good!")

As the Department grew we organized a bureau for animals, another for

plants, one for forests, one for chemistry, and one for soils; and all

along the line we have those great bureaus at work. We are the practical

fellows who conserve; we are doing it every day. I have just been out

among the forests myself four or five weeks, helping to save the

Government's property out there. But the great question comes down to

the soil. There is no classical college or university that teaches

anything about the soil, not one single thing. From the time that Samuel

had the school of the prophets at Bethel down to the present day, there

never has been anything taught to the people with regard to the soil on

which they walk and from which they get their living. I have organized a

bureau for it. We are studying the soil all over the country. You might

think, to go out on these beautiful prairies, that the soil is all

alike. Well, it isn't; any prairie has probably a hundred different

soils, some of them best adapted to grow one plant and some another,

some needing one kind of treatment and some another; and the great

fundamental question that we must study now is the American soil and its

power to produce. (Applause)

With regard to the literature of the farm: There was none when I was a

young fellow; there was no college for farmers. I had to get what I did

get from observation and from a store of recollection of older men. But

now we have an agricultural college in each State. We have an experiment

station in each State. We have 3,000 men making research in the

Department of Agriculture at Washington, all specialists, the foremost

in their lines in the world. When one of those men makes inquiry into

something and reports, we put his name to it and print it and send it

out to the people without expense. We sent out 20,000,000 pieces last

year (applause). And any of you who want anything we have, no matter

whether you are farmers or not, you are welcome to it. Some of the best

encouragement that we have comes from those who are not farmers at all.

I have told you of the genesis of the soil-robber; is he here in the

Mississippi valley? The old-time farmer educated his children, but he

educated them to do anything under the sun but farm. When the boy

graduated, when he got through with his education, he went anywhere but

to the farm. That was until within a few years the custom. The other day

I wrote to the dean of the Iowa Agricultural College that several people

had applied to me for men to superintend farms, and that a newspaper man

wanted a farm expert to go into his office at a good salary, and

asked--"How many young men do you graduate this year in a four-year

agricultural course?" He replied, and I think he said "We graduated some

seventy in a four-year course, but none of them left the State; they are

all going back to the farm" (great applause and cry of "Good!"). Those

men know something. Now, are you doing that in Minnesota? You have

always had a fine agricultural school here connected with your State

University, and you have an open door into the four-year academic course

in the University; you are doing much for agriculture and education. Yet

we are where we are today with regard to scarce food and dear meat

because we didn't begin educating the young farmer sooner. But he is

going to catch on. There would be a universal introduction of

agricultural education into the common and secondary schools of the

country if teachers could be found. That is the great difficulty. Fifty

years ago, when Congress endowed agricultural colleges, that was the

trouble. They could start the college, they could erect a building, but

there was no library, there was no professor who knew anything about

agriculture, and the great trouble is a man can only teach what he

knows himself. But now, after half a century of effort on the part of

the farmers, on the part of friends of the farms, on the part of

far-seeing men like James J. Hill (applause), we are getting a

creditable agricultural education in this country.

Do not be uneasy about the forests; at the last session, Congress gave

me $400,000 more than they had ever given me before to take care of the

forests. Do not be uneasy about the coal, the gas, the oil, and the

phosphates; President Taft has withdrawn all those until Congress

indicates what shall be done with them. But the soil, Gentlemen, the

soil; the big price for meat, the big price for bread; these are things

to study. We _can_ improve our soil. One of our speakers this afternoon

told us that you cannot grow soil. I believe that, once you wash it

away. But you can reduce it, beyond the point of profitable production

of crops; that you can do, and that is being done. The soil-robber works

in Iowa, and I fear he is at work in Minnesota. The old folks have gone

to town; and the Lord knows nobody wants them there, because when you

want to improve the town with gas and sewer and water and things of that

kind, the farmer won't vote for them; he is regarded as a nuisance;

everybody wishes he would stay on the farm, and I wish he would. And

when the old farmer and his wife go to town, they sell off everything;

they rent the farm to a man who has no means to stock it with cattle and

sheep, hogs and poultry; he grows grain to sell, he grows hay to sell,

and those farms grow worse and worse every year. That is the situation

we are in. (Applause)

We are making some progress, some headway. The Government gave to the

emigrant from abroad, to everybody who wanted it as long as they lasted,

a claim in the rainy belt; but there are no lands left for giving away

in the rainy belt. Something can be done in regard to our dry-land

farming; something can be done in regard to irrigation. As Mr Hill

intimated (in fact, he delivered a great deal of my speech), there is

not much being done in the line of irrigation. Take a trip out West and

watch the rivers as you cross them, and you will see that we are wasting

far more water than we are using--though in certain neighborhoods in

Colorado highly intelligent people are every year building more dams

away up in the mountains and saving their winter and spring-flood

waters. That is going on and on, and it should go on until all the

waters in the mountains are saved for application to the land. Do you

remember the history of irrigation in the valley of the Po, in Italy?

There are more people to the square mile there than are found in almost

any other part of the world. They began at the headwaters of the

tributaries and built great dams to hold up the water to an amount

suitable for the growing of crops, something like twenty inches or more;

and they built on down to the mouth of the Po. Now when there comes a

drought like we had this year, they let water out on the fields, and

thus get a maximum crop. Without that extra water, at a time of drought

their crop would wither and fail. I understand Minnesota has more

lakes, more natural reservoirs for holding water than any other State in

the Union. Look to it, you Minnesota people; you can, by using that

water in a dry year, grow maximum crops.

How do the people of the Old World raise big crops? If you followed Mr

Hill's statistics you learned they didn't know as much there once as

they do now, for they have raised their crop production from 20 to 30

bushels an acre. He also alluded to the Danes, who by good farming are

enabled to sell enormous amounts of farm products. How do they keep that

land up? I will tell you what a great many of them are doing. They buy

mill-feeds from the United States; they buy bran and shorts, they buy

the cottonseed of the South and the flaxseed of Minnesota, and feed

their dairy cows. That is a highly intellectual job, isn't it, for an

American citizen, to grow food for a Danish cow? But the Dane has his

eyes open; he _knows_. He sells $40,000,000 worth of butter and cheese

to England every year, but puts back all the fertility on the farm; and

that is what has brought up his little fifteen-acre farm, or his

forty-acre farm. He has brought it up by keeping and feeding his cows on

our mill-feeds, mind you; and he is prosperous--and we are not so

prosperous only because we rob ourselves.

A VOICE--Bran doesn't cost any more in Denmark than in America.

Secretary WILSON--It is American bran, though. And let me tell you

something else. The meats you grow up here cost hardly any more in

Europe than they cost here, because the retailer over there hasn't got

all the frills that the retail dealer has here, and is satisfied with a

smaller profit. (Applause)

Now, Ladies and Gentlemen, I am merely outlining some of the remarks

that I prepared and gave to the newspaper people; and I have no doubt

you have listened to me as long as you care to (cries of "Go on, go

on"). I have enjoyed my visit here. I am on record as saying that these

northwestern States, beginning here and extending on west, are the

healthiest we have; their waters are good; their climate is fine; they

are going to grow vigorous men and handsome women. If we are going to

have all their benefits you should conserve your soil, so that your

great-grandchildren will have better soil than you have today. Down in

Iowa, where I have lived for 46 years, the soil grows bigger crops today

than it did fifty years ago; and it is still improving.

You have extended to me the greatest compliment a hospitable people can

bestow on a stranger, and that is to give me your attention. I thank

you. (Great applause.)

* * * * *

Chairman CLAPP--Ladies and Gentlemen: We will now listen to a discussion

by Honorable F. C. Stevens, Member of Congress from this district.

(Applause)

* * * * *

Representative STEVENS--Mr Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: You are

fortunate this afternoon, so far as my discussion is concerned. I was

assigned to discuss an address by Senator Dolliver, Chairman of the

Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry, on the subject of "Cattle,

Food, and Leather." We greatly regret the enforced absence of Senator

Dolliver, because he is informed on that subject and could have given us

a discussion of great benefit. I congratulate myself that I am not

obliged to follow him, because I know too little about his subject. So I

shall briefly discuss something I do know about.

In the very able address of Mr Hill, and in the very bright discussion

of Mr Wallace which followed, there was a general criticism of Congress

for undue expenditures of public money. I want to tell this audience

that Congress, instead of being extravagant, is often unduly economical

of the people's money. The money we spend is what the people want us to

spend, and we do not spend nearly as much as they want us to. The

estimates that were sent in by the heads of the departments (of which

Secretary Wilson is one) aggregated nearly two hundred millions of

dollars more than the expenditures which Congress authorized, and the

estimates which came from the field officers to the heads of these great

departments, for example, like that of Secretary Wilson; from the

post-offices scattered throughout the country; from the officers of the

War and Navy Departments, scattered all over the world; and from the

officers of the State and other departments, were, I will venture to

say, nearly two hundred million dollars more still: so that Congress

actually did not spend more than two-thirds as much as the people of the

United States in their respective localities wanted spent. There is not

a single large convention in the United States similar to this--which is

one of the most magnificent in the history of this section of the

country--that does not call upon Congress for the expenditure of large

sums of money, and I will venture to predict that the resolutions, which

will be adopted by this Congress will call for a large appropriation

from the National treasury. We have in Washington every year a Rivers

and Harbors Congress, composed of 4,000 of the brightest, broadest, most

patriotic business men of the United States, who go there as delegates,

spend their own money to go, and then ask large expenditures from the

people's treasury. Scattered all over this country, meeting probably in

every State in the Union, are various voluntary assemblages of our

People demanding various improvements by the Federal Government, and

every one asking for expenditures of the people's money. You never yet

have heard of a convention which has met anywhere at anybody's expense

asking for a cutting down of expenditures. If there is any one man who

is popular in the United States it is the man who calls for the

expenditure of the people's money; the men who are the most unpopular,

and are condemned and criticised in public life, are those who try to

cut down the expenses and be economical with the people's money

(applause). I think there ought to be some reform (and I have had some

experience); we _are_ extravagant; we do spend more money than we ought

to, but it is spent honestly, it is spent with the best of intention, it

is spent because the people want us to spend it, and we do not go nearly

as far as they ask us to.

Just one suggestion more: It is easy to criticise and ridicule something

that a man knows but little about, and I have noticed that in this

discussion of Conservation each man is almighty anxious to conserve that

which interests _him_; and one of the latest examples of that was

afforded by the statement of Mr Wallace in condemnation of the dam

between Saint Paul and Minneapolis. Now, in advance I want to state that

I am not responsible for that dam; it was there before I entered public

life. But there is one thing we are trying to do; we are trying to

enforce the principle of practical Conservation, and I wish to call

attention to that as a sample of ridicule sometimes seen in the

discussion of a subject that really interests the people. The United

States thirty years ago started, at the headwaters of the Mississippi,

six of the largest storage reservoirs for water in the world, with a

capacity of many thousands of millions of gallons of water, designed to

improve the navigation of the river and raise it in times of drought

eighteen inches here at the levee of Saint Paul. That enormous storage

of water in the river should be utilized for the practical benefit of

the people of the United States. That is the practical basis for all

theories of Conservation. A board of engineers was ordered by Congress

to make an investigation of the use of the dam at the Twin Cities, and

they have reported that a dam can be built and it has been ordered by

Congress and is under construction (it is the one ridiculed). It will be

thirty feet high and will yield 15,000 horsepower of electrical energy,

worth here $25 per horsepower-year, making a total value of $375,000 per

annum, at an expenditure in all not to exceed $2,000,000. It will pay

the United States the money that it invests in that dam. It is expected

that the United States will sell, for a reasonable price, that

electrical energy to the cities of Saint Paul and Minneapolis and the

University of Minnesota; these cities can be the best lighted in the

world and save a hundred thousand dollars each annually (applause); and,

more than that, we will have there the most beautiful lake in the world,

extending from the historical falls of Minnehaha below to the great and

beautiful University of Minnesota above. That is a practical example of

Conservation (applause). Before any of these gentlemen come forward

flippantly to ridicule the public works going on in any part of the

country, they should realize that there _may be_ some things they don't

know about. (Applause)

Only one suggestion more (because we all want to hear from Professor

Bailey): It is easy to criticise Congress as a whole; it is fashionable

to do it; Congress hasn't any friends anywhere; but just remember this:

it is a necessary evil; it is the concrete voice of ninety millions of

free American citizens; it is the only agency whereby these ninety

millions of American people can accomplish their will and desire. We can

only run a free Government by the rule of the majority; a majority of

one is potent to control this whole great country; 51 percent are in

favor of what that majority does, and, 49 percent claim the right to

criticise and kick at what that majority does. As this is a free

Government they have that right. Now, my friends, we must remember that

what displeases us probably pleases 51 percent, and if we had the right

to pass the very laws we wanted to on any subject, the chances are that

our next-door neighbors, on both sides, would criticise and complain of

us, just as we are now doing of other people. The only thing I wish to

emphasize is that Congress tries to represent the whole American people,

tries to make concrete the voice of the whole American people. It is

human, the same as the people are; it makes the same kind of mistakes

that the people make; and, after all, the people are responsible for

Congress. I thank you. (Applause)

* * * * *

Chairman CLAPP--Ladies and Gentlemen, we will now have an address on

"Conservation in Country Life," by Dr Liberty Hyde Bailey, Dean of State

Agricultural College, Cornell University, and Chairman of the Country

Life Commission. It affords me great pleasure to introduce Professor

Bailey. (Applause)

* * * * *

Professor BAILEY--Mr President, Ladies and Gentlemen: Because of the

lateness of the hour, and because of the very great treat which you have

had this afternoon in the presentation of the fundamental questions of

country life, I shall only call your attention to three or four topics

which, perhaps, have not been touched by others who have spoken from

this platform.

Two great economic and social movements are now before the

country--Conservation, and Country Life. The Conservation movement is

the expression of the idea that the materials and agencies that are part

of the furniture of the planet are to be utilized by each generation

carefully, and with real regard to the welfare of those who are to

follow us. The Country Life movement is the expression of the idea that

the policies, efforts, and material well-being of the open country must

be highly sustained, as a fundamental essential of a good civilization;

and it recognizes the fact that rural society has made relatively less

progress in the past century than has urban society. Both movements are

immediately economic, but in ultimate results they are social and moral.

They rest on the assumption that the welfare of the individual man and

woman is to be conserved and developed, and is the ultimate concern of

governments; both, therefore, are phases of a process in social

evolution.

Not only the welfare but the existence of the race depends on utilizing

the products and forces of the planet wisely, and also on securing

greater quantity and variety of new products. These are finally the most

fundamental movements that government has yet attempted to attack; for

when the resources of the earth shall largely disappear or the arm of

the husbandman lose its skill, there is an end of the office of

government.

At the bottom, therefore, the Conservation and Country Life movements

rest on the same premise; but in their operation, and in the problems

that are before them, they are so distinct that they should not be

confounded or united. These complementary phases may best work

themselves out by separate organization and machinery, although

articulating at every point; and this would be true if for no other

reason than that a different class of persons, and a different method of

procedure, attached to each movement. The Conservation movement finds it

necessary, as a starting-point, to attack intrenched property interests,

and it therefore finds itself in politics, inasmuch as these interests

have become intrenched through legislation. The Country Life movement

lacks these personal and political aspects.

_These Subjects Have a History_

Neither "Conservation" nor "Country Life" is new except in name and as

the subject of an organized movement. The end of our original resources

has been foreseen from time out of mind, and prophetic books have been

written on the subject. The need of a quickened country life has been

recognized from the time that cities began to dominate civilization; and

the outlook of the high-minded countryman has been depicted from the

days of the classical writings until now. On this side of mineral and

similar resources, the geologists and others among us have made definite

efforts for conservation; and on the side of soil fertility, the

agricultural chemists and the teachers of agriculture have for a hundred

years maintained a perpetual campaign of conservation. So long and

persistently have those of us in the agricultural and some other

institutions heard these questions emphasized, that the startling

assertions of the present day as to the failure of our resources and the

coordinate importance of rural affairs have not struck me with any force

of novelty. But there comes a time when the warnings begin to collect

themselves, and to crystallize about definite points; and my purpose in

suggesting this history is to emphasize the importance of the two

movements now before us by showing that the roots run deep, back into

human experience. It is no ephemeral or transitory subject that we are

now met to discuss.

All really fundamental movements are the results of long-continued

discussion and investigation, but it requires a great generalizer and

organizer, and one possessed of prevision, to concrete scattered facts

into powerful national movements. The one who recognized the existence

of these questions, who saw the significance of the problems, who aided

to assemble them, and who projected them into definite lines of public

action was Theodore Roosevelt; and he himself has expressed our

obligation in this Conservation movement to Gifford Pinchot. (Great

applause)

The Conservation movement is now approaching its full; the Country Life

movement is a slower and quieter tide, but it will rise with great

power. These are the twin economic and social questions that the

Roosevelt administration raised for our consideration. (Applause)

_They are not party-politics subjects_

I have said that these are economic and social problems and policies. I

wish to enlarge this view. They are concerned with saving, utilizing,

and augmenting, and only secondarily with administration. We must first

ascertain the facts as to our resources, and from this groundwork

impress the subject on the people. The subject must be approached by

scientific methods. It would be unfortunate if such movement became the

exclusive program of a political party, for then the question would

become partisan and probably be removed from calm or judicial

consideration, and the opposition would equally become the program of a

party. Every last citizen should be naturally interested in the careful

utilization of our native materials and wealth, and it is due him that

the details of the question be left open for unbiased discussion rather

than be made the arbitrary program, either one way or another, of a

political organization. The Conservation principle is a plain economic

and social problem rather than a political issue. (Applause)

The Country Life movement is equally a scientific problem, in the sense

that it must be approached in the scientific spirit. It will be

inexcusable in this day if we do not go at the subject with only the

desire to discover the facts and to arrive at a rational solution by

non-political methods. The first recommendation of the Commission on

Country Life is that the Government begin taking stock of rural life in

order that we may have definite facts on which to begin a reconstructive

program.

_The soil is the greatest of all resources_

The resources that sustain the race are of two kinds--those that lie

beyond the power of man to reproduce or increase, and those that may be

augmented by propagation and by care. The former are the water, the air,

the sunshine, and the mines of minerals, metals, and coal; the latter

are the living resources, in crop and live-stock. Intermediate between

the two classes stands the soil, on which all living resources depend.

Even after all minerals and metals and coal are depleted, the race may

sustain itself in comfort and progress so long as the soil is

productive, provided, of course, that water and air and sunshine are

still left to us. Beyond all the mines of coal and all the precious

ores, the soil resource is the heritage that must be most carefully

saved; and this, in particular, is the country-life phase of the

Conservation movement.

To my mind, the Conservation movement has not sufficiently emphasized

this problem. It has laid stress, I know, on the enormous loss by soil

erosion, and has said something of inadequate agricultural practice; but

the main question is yet practically untouched by the movement--the

plain problem of handling the soil by all the millions who, by skill or

blundering or theft, produce crops and animals out of the earth. Peoples

have gone down before the lessening power of the land, and in all

probability other peoples will yet go down. The course of empire has

been toward the unplundered lands.

Thinner than the skin of an apple is the covering of the earth that man

tills. Beyond all calculation and all comprehension are the powers and

the mysteries of the soft soil layer of the earth. We do not know that

any vital forces pulsate from the great interior bulk of the earth. Only

on the surface does any nerve of life quicken it into a living sphere.

And yet, from this attenuated layer have come numberless generations of

giants of forests and of beasts, perhaps greater in their combined bulk

than all the soil from which they have come; and back into this soil

they go, until the great life-principle catches up their disorganized

units and builds them again into beings as complex as themselves.

The general evolution of this soil is toward greater powers; and yet, so

nicely balanced are these powers that within his lifetime a man may ruin

any part of it that society allows him to hold; and in despair he

abandons it and throws it back to nature to reinvigorate and to heal. We

are accustomed to marvel at the power of man in gaining dominion over

the forces of nature--he bends to his use the expansive powers of steam

and the energy of the electric currents, and he ranges through space in

the light that he concentrates in his telescope; but while he is doing

all this he sets at naught the powers in the soil beneath his feet,

wastes them, and deprives himself of vast sources of energy. Man will

never gain dominion until he learns from nature how to maintain the

augmenting powers of the disintegrating crust of the earth.

We can do little to control or modify the atmosphere or the sunlight;

but the epidermis of the earth is ours to do with it much as we will. It

is the one great earth resource over which we have dominion. The soil

may be made better as well as worse, more as well as less; and to save

the producing powers of it is far and away the most important

consideration in the Conservation of natural resources.

_No man has a right to plunder the soil_

The man who owns and tills the soil owes an obligation to his fellowmen

for the use that he makes of his land; and his fellowmen owe an equal

obligation to him to see that his lot in society is such that he will

not be obliged to rob the earth in order to maintain his life. The

natural resources of the earth are the heritage and the property of

every one and all of us. A man has no moral right to skin the earth,

unless he is forced to do it in sheer self-defense and to enable him to

live in some epoch of an unequally developed society; and if there are

or have been such epochs, then is society itself directly responsible

for the waste of the common heritage.

The man who plunders the soil is in very truth a robber, for he takes

that which is not his own and he withholds food from the mouths of

generations yet to be born. No man really owns his acres; society allows

him the use of them for his life-time, but the fee comes back to society

in the end. What, then, will society do with those persons who rob

society? The pillaging or reckless land-worker must be brought to

account and be controlled, even as we control other offenders.

(I know that the soil-depletion idea is now challenged; but I am sure

that the Conservation ideal must be applied to soil maintenance even as

it is applied to other maintenance. If it transpires that plants hold a

different relation to the soil-content than we have supposed, we still

know that poor farming makes the land unproductive and that the saving

of wastes is a desirable human quality; and we shall probably need to

change only our phraseology to make the old statement broadly correct.)

I have no socialistic program to propose. The man who is to till the

land must be educated: there is more need, on the side of the public

welfare, to educate this man than any other man whatsoever (applause).

When he knows, and when his obligations to society are quickened, he

will be ready to become a real conservator; and he will act

energetically as soon as the economic pressure for land-supplies begins

to be acute. When society has done all it can to make every farmer a

voluntary conservator of the fatness of the earth, it will probably be

obliged to resort to other means to control the wholly incompetent and

the recalcitrant; at least, it will compel the soil-robber to remove to

other occupation, if economic stress does not itself compel it. We shall

reach the time when we shall not allow a man to till the earth unless he

is able to leave it at least as fertile as he found it. (Applause)

It is a pernicious notion that a man may do what he will with his own.

The whole tendency of social development is away from this idea. A

person may not even have the full control of his own children: society

compels him to place them in school, and it protects them from over-work

and hardship. A man may not breed diseased cattle. No more should he be

allowed wantonly to waste forests or to make lands impotent, even though

he "owns" them. (Applause)

_Ownership vs. Conservation_

This discussion leads me to make an application to the Conservation

movement in general. We are so accustomed to think of privileged

interests and of corporation control of resources that we are likely to

confuse Conservation with company ownership. The essence of Conservation

is to utilize our resources with the least waste consistent with good

progress, and with an honest care for the children of all generations.

While we not infrequently state the problem to be the reservation of our

resources for all the people, and then assume that if all the resources

were in private ownership the problem would thereby be solved, yet, in

fact, the Conservation question is one thing and the ownership of

property quite another. A corporation may be the best as well as the

worst conservator of resources; and likewise, private or individual

ownership may be the very worst as well as the best conservator. The

individual owner, represented by the "independent farmer," may be the

prince of monopolists (applause), even though his operations compass a

very small scale. The very fact that he is independent, with the further

fact that he is intrenched behind the most formidable of all

barriers--private property rights--insures his monopoly.

In the interest of pure Conservation, it is necessary to control the

single man as well as the organized men. In the end Conservation must

deal with the individual man--that is, with a person. It matters not

whether this person is a part of a trust, or lives alone a hundred miles

beyond the frontier, or is the owner of a prosperous farm--if he wastes

the heritage of the race, he is an offender. We are properly devising

ways whereby the corporation holds its property or privileges in trust,

returning to government (or to society) a fair rental; that is, we are

regulating the corporation and making it responsible to the people. What

shall we do with the unattached man, to make him also responsible? Shall

we hold the corporate plunderer to strict account, and let the single

separate plunderer go scot free? (Applause)

In the last analysis, as measured by the results to society, there is no

essential difference between corporate ownership and individual

ownership.

_The philosophy of saving_

The Conservation of natural resources, therefore, resolves itself into

the philosophy of saving, while at the same time making the most and

best advancement in our own day. We have not developed much

consciousness of saving when dealing with things that come free to our

hands, as the sunshine, the rain, the forests, the mines, the streams,

the earth; and the American has found himself so much in the midst of

plenty that saving has seemed to him to be parsimony, or at least

beneath his attention. As a question of public action, however,

conscientious saving represents a very high development. A high sense

of saving ought to come out of the Conservation movement. This will

make directly for character-efficiency, since it will develop both

responsibility and regard for others.

Civilization, thus far, is built on the process of waste. Materials are

brought from forest and sea and mine, certain small parts are used, and

the remainder is discarded or destroyed; more labor is wasted than is

usefully productive; but what is far worse, the substance of the land is

taken in unimaginable quantities and dumped wholesale, through endless

sewerage and drainage systems, into the sea. It would seem as if the

human race were bent on finding a process by which it can most quickly

ravish the earth and make it incapable of maintaining its teeming

millions. We are rapidly threading the country with vast conduits by

which the fertility of the land can flow away unhindered into the

unreachable reservoirs of the ocean. (Applause)

The factories that fabricate agricultural products are likely to be

midway stations in the progress of the fertility on its way to the sea.

The refuse is dumped into streams; or if it is made into fertilizing

materials, it seldom returns to the particular areas whence it came. A

manufactory will expend any effort in improving its machinery and

practice to enable it to get more material out of its products, but may

do little or nothing to increase the production back on the farms. A

sugar-beet or other factory may drain its country until the country can

no longer raise the product; whereas, by developing a rational system of

husbandry and returning the wastes, as in some European countries, it

might maintain the land-balance. Any good milk-products factory should

develop sound milk-making on the farms of the region, as any good

canning factory should raise the standard of production in the fruits

and vegetables that it uses; and this should always be done with the

object of preserving and even increasing the land-power. A factory owes

an obligation to the open country that supports it.

For these and for other reasons, the city always tends to destroy its

province. The city takes everything to itself--materials, money,

men--and gives back only what it cannot use or what it discards as

useless: it does not constructively build up its contributory country.

City dwelling and country dwelling are the two opposite developments of

human affairs. The future state of society depends directly on the

finding of some real economic and social balance between the two, some

species of cooperation that will build and serve them both. This is the

fundamental problem of the social structure. Although city people and

country people are rapidly affiliating in acquaintanceship, these poles

of society are not yet effectively coming together cooperatively on

economic lines. (Applause)

_The Conservation of food_

The fundamental problem for the human race is to feed itself. It has

been a relatively easy matter to provide food and clothing thus far,

because the earth yet has a small population, and because there have

always been new lands to be brought into requisition. We shall eliminate

the plague and the devastations of war, and the population of the earth

will tremendously increase. When the new lands have all been opened to

cultivation, and when thousands of millions of human beings occupy the

earth, the demand for food will constitute a problem that we scarcely

apprehend today.

One would think, from current discussions, that the single way to

provide the food for the population is to raise more products by moving

more people on the land; but this is not at all nub of the question.

More products will be raised as rapidly as it pays persons to raise

them, and there are now sufficient people on the land to double its

productiveness; and the necessary increase of population will come

automatically with increasing profits in the business. Much is said

about the necessity of intenser methods of farming, and we all recognize

the need; but the chief reason why our people do not raise 300 bushels

of potatoes to the acre is that it does not yet pay in most cases to

produce the extra yield. The comparative statistics of yields in

different countries are useful as appealing to the imagination, but they

may be wholly fallacious as guides. What we need is a thorough inquiry

into the course of trade from potato-patch to consumer, to see where the

profit goes.

We need a greater number of competent farmers, to be sure, whether they

hail from the country or the city; the city will still attract those

laborers who cannot work alone and who watch the clock, and the city

provides the organization or machinery to make them of use; but the real

food question and cost-of-living question is the problem of maintaining

the producing-power of the earth by means of better farming.

We think we have developed intensive and perfected systems of

agriculture; but as a matter of fact, and speaking broadly, a

scientifically permanent agriculture on national lines is yet unknown in

the world. In certain regions, as in Great Britain, the productivity of

the land has been increased over a long series of years, but this has

been accomplished to a great extent by the transportation of fertilizing

materials from the ends of the earth. The fertility of England,

according to authorities, has been drawn largely from the prairies and

plains of America, from which it has secured its food supplies, from the

guano deposits in islands of the seas, from the bones of animals and

men, from the mummies of Egypt (applause). The rotation of crops is not

itself a complete means of maintaining fertility.

We begin to understand how it is possible to maintain the

producing-power of the surface of the earth, and there are certain

regions in which our knowledge has been put effectively into operation;

but we have developed no conscious plan or system in a large way for

securing this result. It is the ultimate problem of the race to devise a

permanent self-sustaining organized agriculture on a scientific basis.

The problem is yet unsolved.

We deplore the relative decrease in the exportation of agricultural

produce, and seem to think that the more we export the richer we become;

but, if our knowledge is correct, under present systems of farming, the

more we send abroad the sooner do we deplete our soils. We properly

remove phosphate lands from exploitation and monopoly, but we may remove

our phosphates more rapidly by sending our produce in unhindered

quantities to Europe. Of course, I am not arguing against exportation

and trade, but I wish to point out a fallacy in our common economic

speech.

_The best husbandry is not in the new regions_

The best agriculture, considered in reference to the permanency of its

results, develops in old regions, where the skinning process has passed,

where the hide has been sold, and where people come back to utilize what

is left. The skinning process is proceeding at this minute in the

bountiful new lands of the United States; and in parts of the older

States, and even also in parts of the newer ones, not only the skin but

the tallow has been sold. There are "abandoned" farms from California

even unto Maine.

It is persistently said that the old eastern States are worn out, and

that the farming in them is wretched. There is reason enough to be

ashamed of eastern agriculture, and I hope that our newer regions will

not repeat the mistakes of the older States; but the eastern States have

most excellent agriculture, more than we are aware. Much of it is very

profitable, fully as profitable as any I have seen in the great

agricultural West. The acre-efficiency, as indicated by the Twelfth

Census, is greatest in the old eastern States. Considered with reference

to maintaining high fertility and utilizing wastes, I have not seen

better fanning in this country than in many examples east of Buffalo. In

the development of our agricultural wealth, the East as well as the West

must be reckoned with. We cannot expect to develop widespread

self-sustaining systems of farming in the East so long as it must

compete with the soil-mining of the West.

We are always seeking growing-room, and we have found it. But now, the

western civilization has met the eastern, and the world is

circumferenced. We shall develop the tropics and push far toward the

poles; but we have now fairly discovered the island that we call the

earth (within a year and a half we have reached one end of it and all

but reached the other), and we must begin to make the most of it.

_Another philosophy of agriculture_

Practically all our agriculture has been developed on a rainfall basis.

There is ancient irrigation experience, to be sure, but the great

agriculture has been growing away from these regions. Agriculture is

still moving on, seeking new regions; and it is rapidly invading regions

of small rainfall. The greater part of the land surface of the globe

must be farmed, if farmed at all, under some system of careful

water-saving. Some of it is redeemable by irrigation, and the remainder,

representing about one-half the earth's surface, by some system of

utilization of deficient rainfall, or by what is inappropriately known

as "dry farming." The complementary practices of irrigation and

dry-farming will develop a wholly new system of agriculture and a new

philosophy of country life.

Even in heavy rainfall countries, there is often such vast waste of

water from run-off that the lands suffer severely during droughts. The

hilly lands of our best farming regions are greatly reduced in their

crop-producing power because people do not prepare against drought as

consciously as they provide against winter. It is often said that we

shall water eastern lands by irrigation, and I think that we shall; but

our first obligation is to save the rainfall water by some system of

farm-management or dry-farming.

The irrigation and dry-farming developments have a significance beyond

their value in the raising of crops; they are making the people to be

conservators of water, and to have a real care for posterity.

Agriculture rests on the saving of water. (Applause)

_The obligation of the farmer_

The farmer is rapidly beginning to realize his obligation to society. It

is usual to say that the farmer feeds the world, but the larger fact is

that he saves the world. The economic system depends on him. Wall Street

watches the crops.

As cities increase proportionately in population, the farmer assumes

larger relative importance and becomes more and more a marked man.

Careful and scientific husbandry is rising in this new country. We have

come to a realization of the fact that our resources are not unlimited.

The mining of fertilizing materials for transportation to a few spots on

the earth will some day cease. We must make the farm sustain itself, at

the same time that it provides the supplies for mankind. We all

recognize the necessity of the other great occupations to a well

developed civilization; but in the nature of the case, the farmer is the

final support. On him depends the existence of the race. No method of

chemical synthesis can provide us with the materials of food and

clothing and shelter, and with all the good luxuries that spring from

the bosom of the earth.

I know of no better present conservators than our best farmers. They

feel their responsibility. Quite the ideal of Conservation is

illustrated by a farmer of my acquaintance who saves every product of

his land and has developed a system of self-maintaining live-stock

husbandry, who has harnessed his small stream to light his premises and

do much of his work, who turns his drainage waters into household use,

and who is now troubled that he cannot make some use of the winds that

are going to waste on his farm.

_The obligation of the Conservation movement_

What I have meant to emphasize is the fact that the farmer is the

ultimate conservator of the resources of the earth. He is near the

cradle of supplies, near the sources of the streams, next the margin of

the forests, and on the hills and in the valleys and on the plains just

where the resources lie. He is in contact with the original and raw

materials, and with the fundamental necessities. Any plan of

Conservation that overlooks this fact cannot meet the situation. The

Conservation movement must help the farmer to keep and save the race.

The Conservation and Country Life movements will pass through

propagandic, economic, and political phases; but they will eventuate

into a new alignment of human forces and a redirection of the processes

of social development. These results are to be brought about by efforts

proceeding along definite lines of action. The Conservation movement is

rapidly becoming crystallized into definite proposals. The Country Life

movement should be solidified through a definite National organization

or commission, that is continuously active. This body should work

through all existing rural organizations, placing before them for

consideration the specific questions of the day and serving as a

clearing-house of discussions that arise in the societies and with the

people; and it should make real investigation into the actual economic

and social conditions of the open country, with a view to pointing out

the specific practical steps to be taken by National, State, local, and

individual enterprise.

The Commission on Country Life made sufficient specific recommendations

and suggestions to start a fundamental redirection of effort as applied

to rural development. The Report of the Commission will naturally be the

diverging-point of future discussions of country-life problems.

(Applause)

* * * * *

Chairman CLAPP--Ladies and Gentlemen: The hour grows late, and the

Congress will stand adjourned for the day.

_SEVENTH SESSION_

The Congress was called to order by President Baker in the Auditorium,

Saint Paul, at 8.30 a.m. on Thursday, September 8, few Delegates being

present, and none responding to an invitation to speak for their States.

After waiting some time--

President BAKER--Ladies and Gentlemen: We will now go on with the

regular program, leaving the Call of the States for a later time when

the Delegations may be more fully represented. In the absence of the

Reverend Dr J. A. Krantz, President of the Minnesota Conference of the

Swedish Lutheran Church, we will dispense with the public invocation.

Professor Henry S. Graves, Chief Forester of the United States, will now

address you on "The Forest and the Nation."

* * * * *

Professor GRAVES--Mr President, Ladies and Gentlemen: The movement for

the conservation of our natural resources has reached the second and

most critical stage in its progress. The country has expressed in

unmistakable terms its approval of the principles of Conservation; there

is now before it the problem of the practical application of those

principles.

In forestry there is a very general agreement that our woodlands must be

protected from fire, that waste must be reduced, and that a future

timber supply must in some way be provided. In carrying out these

purposes, differences of opinion arise, and it soon develops that with

many persons the interest in forestry is confined to the abstract idea

and does not extend to its practice. When the requirements of forestry

are considered, forest owners usually find that they must make some

modification in their methods of cutting, that they must use more care

in protection from fire and in saving young growth, and that if they are

to secure a new growth of trees after cutting, some investment is

necessary. The general public learns that in order to secure for the

Nation the permanent benefits of the forest, National and State

expenditures are required.

It is at this point that indifference and even opposition to

Conservation arise. Indifference is shown by the public when it fails to

make adequate appropriations for public forestry. Direct opposition

appears from those who fear that their interests in one way or another

may be adversely affected. There is a great deal of misunderstanding in

regard to the methods of Conservation, and many have charged that those

methods heretofore advocated are impractical. In order to be

successfully applied, Conservation must be practical; but at the same

time the methods must be such as will actually accomplish its real

purposes. To my mind the real significance and value of this Congress is

that an opportunity is afforded to make clear the methods of

Conservation, and the country will then decide whether it will really be

put into practice or become a mere name.

It is not my intention now to dwell at length on the fundamental

importance to the country of forest Conservation. To those who know the

needs of the people for forest products, the available resources, and

the manner in which they are now being used up or destroyed, it must be

clear that we are facing a problem which must be met by prompt and

vigorous action.

A survey of the forest resources of the world shows clearly that in the

long run this Nation must be dependent chiefly on its own supplies.

Those who believe that we may destroy our own forests and then draw upon

foreign resources of timber are misinformed as to the facts, for those

supplies will not be long available. Foreign countries will need for

their own use what they can produce, and many of the exporting countries

are exhausting their forests just as rapidly as America. The timber

supply in this country is being rapidly depleted. We are extravagant in

our use of forest products; there is waste in logging and manufacturing,

and the loss by fire is a shame to the country. To offset this reduction

of merchantable resources the annual production of timber by growth

amounts to much less than one-third the average quantity used and

destroyed. In other words, we are actually exhausting our forest

supplies by use and waste.

There is a sufficient amount of land in the country better suited to

forest growth than other purposes to produce all the wood and timber

needed by the Nation, provided the forest is properly handled. This land

includes mountain areas where the protection of the vegetation is

necessary to conserve water and protect the slopes. The protective

benefits of the forest can thus in most cases be secured at the same

time as the production of wood and timber. There are, however, certain

mountain regions of the West where large trees will not grow, and where

the cover of brush and grass must be conserved to protect the slopes and

to regulate the run-off of water. In these mountains special

reservations must be maintained primarily for protective purposes.

There is but little disagreement in regard to these simple propositions.

The difficulty lies in the fact that the people do not appreciate the

need of immediate action to put the principles of forestry into

practice. The reason why prompt action is not appreciated is that,

except locally, the effects of forest destruction have not yet been

keenly felt. It is true that the prices of certain grades of lumber have

tended to increase. This increase is in part due to the reduction of

supplies, but it is due also to the same causes of increased cost of

production as have raised the price of other manufactured commodities

(applause). The development of railroad transportation and of methods of

logging have constantly opened new forest resources and furnished a

supply to the public. There are today over 30,000 saw-mills throughout

the country cutting timber and competing for the market. Although the

prices of lumber may seem high to the consumer it is still true that in

some sections the competition among the manufacturers is keeping the

prices down to a point where it is hard to market low grades and to

utilize in full any but the best trees in the forest. As long as the

value of timber is below what it would cost to produce it by growth, the

general public will not realize that our supplies are being depleted. It

is after the virgin supplies are exhausted--and that will come in a

comparatively short time--that the great increase in values will come

and the public will suffer. We are urging action now in order that there

may be new supplies produced to meet the needs of the Nation at that

time. (Applause)

The general public fails also to appreciate the effect of forest

destruction on stream-flow and on soil erosion. Some even go so far as

to deny the connection between forests and stream-flow. There are many

factors which determine the stability of water flow. Climate, character

of soil, topography, and vegetative cover, all have an influence on the

run-off of water. There may be a change of conditions of one or more of

these influencing factors sufficient to upset the equilibrium

established by nature, and alter the manner of run-off of the water in a

given watershed (applause). In humid regions, where the old timber is

cut off or burned, a cover of young trees or brush often springs up

quickly and protects the slopes before the character of the stream

channels is changed. A single clearing of the forest may thus have only

a small or temporary effect on water flow. The repeated destruction of

the cover may, however, result in a permanent change, and finally

produce torrent conditions. Thus in the Southern Appalachian province it

is not so much the present and past conditions--although those are

serious--which demand forest conservation, as what will inevitably be

the result of continued destruction of the cover. (Applause)

Where the conditions for forest growth are critical, and the soil and

topography are such that the balance of nature is easily disturbed, the

effects of forest destruction are much more quickly felt. In certain

parts of the West we find already examples of flood and torrent

conditions equal to those in France and Asia. For example, in Utah there

are watersheds where, on account of the burning of the forests and the

over-grazing of slopes, torrent conditions are already definitely

established. One of the most extreme and striking instances in the West

is found on the watershed of Kanab creek flowing through southern Utah

and northern Arizona. As the result of over-grazing, the tributary

streams have already become deep washes, and many new and deep gulches

have been formed running into the main channel and into the side

channels. The water which falls on the surface is quickly carried to

some stream or wash which becomes a miniature torrent. The gathering of

these together in the main channel makes a flood which is irresistible.

The loss from the destruction of dams and bridges, the washing away of

arable lands, and the deposit of rocks and gravel on cultivated fields,

has been enormous. The restoration of vegetation alone will not cure the

evil. It is now an engineering problem to check the torrential flow of

water in the various streams and washes.

In spite of the increasing evidences of the effects of forest

destruction, the public still fails to appreciate the need of prompt

action to prevent the scarcity of timber and to protect the flow of our

streams. The time for action is _before_ a disaster and not afterward

(applause). The small public investments necessary for forest protection

are insignificant when contrasted with the losses and hardships to

communities resulting from forest destruction.

The forest problem is peculiarly difficult on account of the length of

time required to produce timber of useful dimensions. We are using today

trees which for the most part are from 150 to 200 years of age. The time

required to produce trees suitable for lumber varies from about 40 years

with our most rapid-growing species to over 100 years in many mountain

regions. The production of timber requires a long investment. It

requires the permanent use of land for forest growth, and a stable

policy in handling the forest. At the present time in this country there

is great risk from fire, which discourages investment by private capital

in the growing of timber. By its very nature, therefore, the problem of

forestry presents great difficulties to the average private owner of

forest land who has bought the property to market the merchantable

timber and not to grow trees.

Forestry nearly always involves an actual investment. Private owners

will not as a rule make this investment unless there is clearly in sight

an adequate return. On account of the long investment, risk from fire, a

burdensome system of taxation of growing timber, and the present

uncertainties of market, most private owners today are not practicing a

system of forestry which takes into consideration the production of new

timber supplies. Many say that if fires are kept out the question of

forest production will take care of itself, no matter how the forest is

handled, and that all there is to forestry is protection from fire. Let

me say, and with all the emphasis I am capable of using, that forest

production will not take care of itself. There are cases, and remarkable

ones, of natural reproduction of forests even under the worst of abuse.

But where there is no systematic provision for reproduction, ordinary

lumbering results in the long run in a steady reduction of growth of

valuable material; and there are only too many cases of destructive

lumbering which leave the land in an unproductive state even when fires

do not occur. (Applause)

Forestry is necessary to guarantee to the people the continuous benefits

of the forest. The responsibility of working out the problem of National

forestry cannot be left with private owners. It is primarily a public

question, and the burden of its solution must be largely borne by the

public. In the first place those forests owned by the public must be

protected and administered under the methods of practical forestry.

These public forests comprise about one-third of the forest area of the

country. The remaining two-thirds of our forests are in private

ownership, and this includes about four-fifths of the remaining standing

merchantable timber. Without doubt the area of the public forests will

be considerably increased through the acquirement of areas needed for

the protection of public interests, especially in the mountain regions

of the East. But the Federal and State forests alone will not be

sufficient to produce the supplies of forest products needed by the

country. The practice of forestry on private lands, or at least on those

areas better suited for forest growth than for other purposes, is a

public necessity. I regard the proper handling of these private forests

as a public necessity (applause). The private owner cannot escape the

responsibility of ownership of an important natural resource; at the

same time he cannot be expected to make financial investments in order

to provide for a general public benefit. The conditions which prevent

him from practicing forestry should be changed. He should be given

public aid in protection from fire. There should be a reasonable system

of taxing growing timber, and there should be cooperation in meeting the

peculiar difficulties of his business which tend to stand in the way of

Conservation.

The practice of forestry by private owners may be brought about through

assistance and cooperation by the Federal Government and the States. The

Government can do a great deal to promote private forestry. It is the

policy of the Forest Service to aid in the introduction and practice of

forestry on private lands, just as far as its authority permits. This

assistance must, however, be largely confined to education, advice, and

general cooperation. Through research and experiment, the Government is

laying the foundation for the practice of forestry in all parts of the

country. The results of the work in forest products will greatly help in

the problem of saving waste. The experiments in silviculture are

demonstrating the methods of handling woodlands. Direct aid to private

owners in the practice of forestry must come chiefly from the States.

The proper adjustment of taxes is a State matter. Assistance in fire

patrol and fire fighting must come from the States. If on the other hand

this aid is given by the States and the Government, and the obstacles

now standing in the way of private forestry are removed, private owners

should assume their obligations in actually setting to work to practice

forestry.

The first necessity is prompt and effective action by the States. As yet

most of our States have not assumed their full responsibilities in

forestry. In a number of them good forests laws have been enacted;

several States are buying lands as public reservations; and in about

fifteen States a forest commission or a State forester has been

appointed. But the problem of State forestry requires a great deal more

than laws on the statute books, or the appointment of a State forester.

There must be the machinery to carry out the laws, a thoroughly equipped

organization to patrol the State and fight fires, and adequate

appropriation of money to make this work really effective (applause).

The real test of State forestry will be the development of a forest

policy which will be stable, and the providing of the money necessary to

carry on the work.

The first duty of the Federal Government in forestry is the proper

administration of the forest lands owned by the Nation. A National

forest policy has already been initiated. The greater portion of the

Federal forest lands have been set aside as National Forests and they

have been managed on the principles of practical Conservation. The

purpose of establishing these forests has been to guarantee the best

possible use of their resources for the people. There is still an

impression among some persons that the National Forests are closed

reservations, withdrawn from use and development. The keynote of the

Federal policy in handling these forests is the use of their resources;

but it is the continued use in contrast with that use which exhausts the

resources (applause). There are many who assert that the National

Forests are retarding development. It is the policy of the Forest

Service to encourage the opening up and development of the resources of

the forests, but we take the stand that this must be a development which

will permanently build up the country. (Applause)

The Federal policy stands squarely for permanent development and

maintenance of stable industries, as opposed to mere exploitation which

exhausts the resources, and which shortly results in the impoverishment

of the region. (Applause)

In administering the National Forests, the first task is to protect them

from destruction by fire. In order adequately to protect forests from

fire, the first necessity is a system of roads and trails to enable

proper patrol and movement of fire fighters, and telephone lines for

quick communication. The second necessity is a well organized force of

rangers and guards to patrol the forest and fight fires. Ever since the

National Forests were placed under the administration of the Forest

Service, the construction of trails and telephone lines has been pushed

as rapidly as funds could be secured for that purpose. Although there

have already been built 9,218 miles of trails, 1,218 miles of roads, and

4,851 miles of telephone lines, this represents but a beginning of the

work when the vast area of inaccessible and undeveloped forests is

considered. The Forest Service has a well organized protective service

for patrol and fire fighting, though the number of men is still

inadequate. Nevertheless it has been possible in ordinary seasons to

keep down the fires to a small loss. During the present season there has

been in the Northwest an unparalleled drouth and constant high winds

that have made fire protection unusually difficult. Innumerable fires

were started in the forests from various causes. The woods were dry, and

a small spark was sufficient to start a blaze. Where there were roads

and trails, the patrol-men were able to reach the fires quickly and

either put them out in their incipiency or soon mobilize a force of men

who brought them under control before they had done much damage. This

was well demonstrated by the fact that in the Montana and Idaho

districts the majority of railroad fires were put out by the patrol-men

employed by the Forest Service and by the railroads in cooperation

before they reached dangerous proportions. Many fires were started,

also, in the inaccessible portions of the forest where there are no

roads and trails. It was often impossible to reach those fires until

they had been burning several days, and in many cases had become

dangerous conflagrations. The disastrous fires were those occurring

under these conditions.

I wish to take this occasion to express my appreciation of the work of

those men who lost their lives in these fires, and also of those other

men who ever since the opening of this dry season have been fighting

these fires, working often day and night, without regard to hours of

service--working with a courage, with a singleness of purpose and desire

to protect the property of the public, which makes me proud of them.

(Applause)

The great lesson of these fires is the absolute necessity for a complete

system of roads and trails and of telephone lines in the National

Forests. I meet some men who say that forests cannot be protected from

fire, and that sooner or later every extensive forest will be burned.

The experience in the Northwest this year only strengthens my conviction

that forests can be protected from fire even under the most adverse

climatic conditions. But this protection absolutely requires a proper

development of the forest in the way of transportation and

communication, and an adequate force of men for patrol. The National

Forests can be rendered safe from fire but they must be organized for

it. This requires extensive construction work at the outset. It requires

a large investment in permanent improvement work by the Government. But

that necessary expense is insignificant in comparison with the value of

the property which will be protected, and the benefits to the

communities and industries depending on these forests.

* * * * *

The National Forests are for use, and are administered primarily for the

benefit of those States and communities in which they are located. The

various resources are opened to use under reasonable restrictions which

will guarantee their best continuous service to the greatest possible

number of people. The mature timber is cut when there is a demand for

its use, but the cutting is conducted under the principles of forestry,

so that new growth is established in openings made by lumbering and the

continued supply of timber is provided for. (Applause)

The other resources of the National Forests are also being put to use.

The grass is utilized under a system of regulated grazing, land more

valuable for agriculture than for forest purposes is opened to entry

under the forest homestead act, prospecting is allowed without

restriction, and legitimate mining is encouraged. It is the aim of the

Forest Service to encourage the development of water-powers, and we are

endeavoring to work out a practical plan which will facilitate this

development by private capital, and at the same time protect the

interests of the public (applause). I believe that the use of

water-power sites on Federal lands should be under Government control,

and I believe that this can be accomplished so as not to prevent the

attraction of capital to their development. (Applause)

So far as the National Forests are concerned, Conservation has already

carried into the practical stage, for it is being put into actual

operation. The National Forests will always stand as a monument to the

work of the real founder and spirit of the Conservation movement,

Gifford Pinchot. (Great applause)

There are many opponents of the National Forest policy and of the Forest

Service, but I find in most sections of the country that those who are

using the National Forests, and who are therefore most vitally

interested in them, are cooperating very heartily with the Government in

working out the details of their administration. It is through the kind

of constructive cooperation which the Forest Service is receiving from

lumbermen of the country that the practical management of the National

Forests can be made really effective. (Applause)

The burden of my plea today is the need of prompt and vigorous action.

Action is required of the general public in giving support for the

protection of the National Forests. Action is required by the States in

administering the State lands in the interests of the public. Action is

required by the States in initiating a system of taxation of growing

timber which will not prevent Conservation. Action is required by the

States in introducing a system of forest patrol and fighting fires which

will permit prompt work in the prevention of the burning of our forests.

And action, finally, is needed by private individuals to introduce the

practical forestry on their lands just as far as economic conditions

will permit.

My suggestion is that the first step is required by the public through

action of States and action of the Government. I appreciate that this

cannot be accomplished without explaining fully to the people exactly

what is required. I appreciate that there is necessary an organized

campaign of education which should be carried into every locality of the

country. This campaign may and must be practical, and not only the

general problem of forestry but also the specific means of solving it

must be presented to the people. This educational work may be done in

part by the Government; a large amount of it must, however, be carried

on through the State officials, through the State forest and

conservation commissions, and through National and local associations.

(Prolonged applause)

* * * * *

President BAKER--The next subject is "The Stake of the Business Man in

Conservation," by Mr Alfred L. Baker, of Chicago.

Mr BAKER--Mr President, Fellow Delegates, Ladies and Gentlemen: Here in

this Second Conservation Congress, where are assembled specialists who

have given profound study to the different phases of the Conservation of

our resources, where are met together scientists in agriculture,

forestry, mineralogy and waterways, it is not intended that the remarks

of a business man should stumble into the fields of the experts. It is,

however, appropriate that he should voice his approving earnestness and

vigorous enthusiasm in behalf of the Conservation movement (applause),

and voice them to those National benefactors who are holding their

shoulders to the wheel of progress. As a delegate to this Congress,

representing the business man and with the knowledge of his views, I

wish to state with all the emphasis of which I am capable that the

business men in this country are heart and soul in favor of Conservation

(applause). Owing to the infirmities of human nature a few may faint by

the wayside; but the great body and mass can always be depended on to

faithfully and loyally support the movement. By so doing they are

promoting the proper development of those resources which are not only

the foundation of our National prosperity but also the foundation of

their own individual success.

The most conspicuous quality in the character of the successful business

man is foresight--and he, more than any other member of the community,

must realize the necessity of foresight in the management of our

National affairs. He himself would never permit the waste or plunder of

his own personal resources, and whilst enjoying their daily possession

would always take thought for the morrow. The Nation in its control of

our resources should reflect the same character and intelligence which

the individual shows in the management of his own private affairs.

(Applause)

The great body of business men favor the well-known policies of

Conservation. They recognize that those resources which are of a public

character should be held in trust by the Nation for the benefit of the

people (applause) and that those resources of a private nature should be

so disposed of that they will be enjoyed by the greatest number for the

longest time. (Applause)

They believe in the Government control of water-power (applause) with

the cooperation of the States, and in the application of a scientific

forestry which will eliminate waste, also in a fire patrol which, _at

whatever cost_ (applause), will prevent the destruction of our forests

and of human life. They believe in better methods of farming and in the

improvement of country life so that the bright boy on the farm shall no

longer respond to the call of the great city, but find immediately about

him equal opportunities for fame and fortune. (Applause) They believe in

the continued distribution of information on a large scale that will

educate the people and advance their knowledge of Conservation

(applause); and finally they believe in the Conservation of public

integrity, which is the basal foundation of our National life on which

all else depends. (Great applause)

I am not one of those who believe that the Conservation movement should

be confined solely to the technical treatment of the forest and soil and

the prevention of material waste. The second article in the platform of

the first Conservation Congress provides that "the objects of this

Congress shall be broad, to act as a clearing house for all allied

social forces of our time, to seek to overcome waste in natural, human,

or moral forces." I concur in that declaration. (Applause)

We are told that the Constitution of the United States was the

unexpected outcome of a conference convened for the sole purpose of

investigating our waterways. The charge of irrelevancy might well have

been brought to bear upon the discussions which ensued relating to a

standing army and the powers of the Federal Government, but in all

National movements the importance rests not with their origin but with

the extent of their usefulness. (Applause)

However restricted at the outset, Conservation has grown into a larger

and more comprehensive movement, and its principles include the

conservation of ideals that make for good citizenship (applause). It is

in relation to this larger view that I wish to emphasize the importance

of the American business man and his influence on our National progress.

In the lifetime of many now living, the land in this great State of

Minnesota was divided between two Indian tribes--the Sioux and the

Chippewa. These tribes were uncivilized. Intelligence had not arrived at

the stage which produces diversified industry, commerce, and the

merchant. The influence of these forces marks the difference between the

land of the Sioux and the State of Minnesota today.

The early pioneers who first settled on the Atlantic Coast and then

continued their journey across the Continent were all business men, but

they were not capitalists. From the eastern States they sought in Europe

capital to build up the industries of their locations, and, by the use

of this capital and labor rendered the East prosperous; and when these

sturdy pioneers opened up the wealth of resources in the West they, in

turn, drew upon the East for capital, and by paying for its use and

uniting labor with it developed this great country. The descendants of

these pioneer business men are the representative business men of today.

They are not in an economic sense capitalists. Whilst the capitalist may

be a business man, the vast majority of business men are not

capitalists. The business man is the one who obtains capital from one

source and labor from another source and unites them in an anticipated

prosperous undertaking. (Applause)

The material prosperity of the United States is due to our natural

resources and the genius of the business man united with the capital of

the few and the toil of the millions; but the _creative genius_, the

organizing ability, the spirit which animates the partnership, is the

contribution of the business man--by his brains, energy, force of

character, and toil he has created here in the United States a

commercial system of enterprise and a degree of business prosperity

unparalleled in history.

If we give the credit of this achievement to the business man, he should

also bear the responsibility of the evils which have been engendered

(applause). The gravest evils which have developed out of our commercial

prosperity are the uncontrolled power of great wealth, the growth of

monopolies, and their sinister influence on our political institutions.

(Applause)

Industrial efficiency may justify the union of many smaller corporations

into one big one, but if it leads to industrial despotism this

efficiency is obtained at the sacrifice of industrial freedom

(applause). No one nowadays, on the ground of efficiency, believes in a

_political_ despotism; surely it is equally difficult to believe that

any degree of efficiency could justify _industrial_ despotism.

(Applause)

As early as 1888 so conservative a man as Grover Cleveland expressed

himself as follows: "Communism of combined wealth and capital, the

outgrowth of overweening cupidity and selfishness, which assiduously

undermines the justice and integrity of free institutions is not less

dangerous than the communism of oppressed poverty and toil which,

exasperated by injustice and discontent, attacks with wild disorder the

citadel of misrule." So far as communism of capital is concerned, did

not Cleveland's graphic statement adumbrate the conditions as they exist

today? Since that time how tremendous has been the growth in the

combinations of capital and industry.

But of more importance than the size of the corporations and the

combinations of capital is the activity in our political arena of the

agents and members of these corporations (applause); they are not there

to advocate measures for the welfare of the community, but to obtain for

themselves special privileges, to gain some advantage in disregard of

the public welfare and merely for private gain. These conditions are

precipitating an economic and political crisis, in which the issues are

not to be between the two great political parties, but between ranks

which are being formed to give battle on these new issues regardless of

party lines. (Applause)

To my mind great encouragement lies in the fact that there is rapidly

developing a segregation in the ranks of business men. Already many of

them, freed from a false sense of class loyalty, or a fear of injury to

business, are unwilling to assist by their public support or private

esteem that man, however successful or powerful he may be, who by

himself or by his agents practices methods which are unfair and opposed

to the common good (applause). They no longer respect the citizen who in

any way indicates a reluctance to take part in the crusade against

bribery and graft, or the one who, by silence, hopes to conceal his

public attitude when public sentiment seeks to fasten responsibility

where responsibility belongs (applause). This sort of man must come out

into the open and declare himself--he must be either with us or against

us. (Applause and cries of "Good!")

Even though the advocacy of the control of industrial combinations and

the enactment of measures for their regulation temporarily affect

business interests, they should not for this reason excite the

opposition of the mercantile world. Those business men who have become

convinced of the wisdom of regulation should be willing to follow the

example of the intelligent patient who goes through with a necessary

operation that in the end he may obtain permanent health and strength.

(Applause)

During the last five years there is apparent among business men a larger

recognition of their obligations to the community, and there is

noticeable among the directors of many of our corporations a stricter

sense of trusteeship. An anti-toxin to corruption has entered the very

veins of the business world (applause). The phagocytes of health are

overcoming the macrophags of decay. This is not a sudden revival, a

temporary wave of reform, but a gradual evolution of the moral sense, a

permanent advance in the idea of social justice (applause). This moral

awakening may show itself politically in an effort toward municipal

reform, in legislative and municipal voters' leagues, in a determined

resistance to monopoly, or for a larger control and a larger share in

the profits of public franchise corporations. But in whatever form it

seeks its expression, it is the manifestation of an actively

constructive principle which will soon become so effective that the

merchant and the man of affairs will overlook the near and personal view

which appears on the stock ticker and take the larger view, the view

that ultimately provides for the greatest good of the greatest number

(applause). This awakened sense of social justice is the new and deeper

significance of the Conservation movement. (Applause)

Two years ago the Conference of Governors adopted a declaration of

principles which the President said should hang on the wall of every

school-house for the education of every citizen who is to become a voter

in the next generation.

Since then Conservation has become the watchword of the hour. The

widespread use of the word has given to it a meaning undreamed of in the

beginning. In the form of an intelligent energy it has applied itself to

all the concerns of life from the conservation of the soil and the

forest to the conservation of birds, of child life and of health. It

enters into our daily life, awakens into an active moral force a

renaissance of the old-fashioned virtues--prudence, thrift, and

foresight--and gives to them a larger and a National meaning.

Conservation is the intimate and individual message to our day and

generation. It marks the advent of a new patriotism wherein love of

humanity becomes an integral part of love of country, and where the

conservation of our "rocks and rills," our "woods and templed hills," is

not a more sacred trust than the conservation of those ideals and

principles through which we hope to attain our ultimate National

purpose--a Government of enlightened people, enjoying equal

opportunities, sharing equal burdens, and rejoicing in the freedom of an

Industrial and Political Democracy. (Great applause)

* * * * *

[In the course of the foregoing, President Baker invited Professor

Condra to the Chair.]

Professor CONDRA--Ladies and Gentlemen: President Baker desires me to

say that his voice has failed. He also authorizes me to announce that

the Call of States will be made this afternoon.

I am pleased now to introduce a speaker opposed to the leading objects

of this Congress. I ask you to hear kindly any criticism that he may

offer. His subject is "The Relation of Capital to the Development of

Resources." Mr Frank H. Short, of California.

* * * * *

Mr SHORT--Mr Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: I am permitted to speak

today for the first time for real money, and apparently in behalf of

those who are sometimes denominated "malefactors of great wealth." I

observe that one of the Saint Paul papers in announcing this address has

referred to me as a lawyer and capitalist. The latter I modestly deny.

It is unprofessional for a lawyer to become rich. Good lawyers are

scarce and valuable, and judging by the speeches I have heard in this

Congress rich men are very common and a great public nuisance. Therefore

I hold that it would be a great misfortune for a good lawyer, such as I

admit that I am (laughter), to be spoiled by making out of him an

ordinary capitalist.

This audience, in listening to my address, will no doubt have in mind

the numerous warnings which have been given to them in advance to

forestall the evil influences of my humble remarks. I hope none of you

will ever have to sustain the painful ordeal of appearing before an

audience decorated with hoofs and horns by angels of light wearing

crowns and playing harps, who have so kindly bestowed upon me the

habiliments of the Evil One. Perhaps, since I have been so excessively

featured, I had as well admit the whole horrible truth. First, and

perhaps worst of all, I am a Missourian, having committed the

indiscretion of being born in the "Show me" State--but not in Kansas.

All of my youth was spent in the Middle West in the occupation of a

rough rider; and I still enjoy a fight or a footrace as much as though I

were a real colonel. Further confessing, I have lived for many years in

California and am a lawyer by profession, and have committed the offense

of allowing myself to be retained and am now employed by a considerable

number of large water companies and electric power companies and other

corporations, diligently endeavoring to commit the crime of investing

capital under the laws of the western States in the development of the

industries and resources of those States.

The difference between a real colonel and a second lieutenant is

illustrated by the fact that this admission permits of my being heard

under his authority, although industrious efforts by the lieutenant

referred to have been devoted to the contrary purpose. I am, however,

speaking under the general permission of this Congress, and under no

other frank than my unrevoked license as a real though obscure American

citizen.

The rights and interests of all American citizens and business

institutions under the laws of our country are the same (applause). As a

man accumulates property, and his interests and substantial connection

with the country and its resources increase, he thereupon becomes just

that much more interested in the honesty and integrity of the Government

under which he lives, in the perfectly equal and just operation of the

law, and above all in the supremacy of the law and similarly in the

inauguration, continuation, and perpetuation of good policies.

No doubt we self-governing Americans have all erred, both the poor man

and the capitalist; and perhaps it would not be unfair to say that we

all ought in humility to bear our equal share of the odium connected

with whatever failures and offenses have been committed during our

history, and I am not here to shift any of the burden from one class

upon another. Neither am I here to answer denunciations with

denunciations. I am handicapped in such debate, for the reason that I

acquired my education in the old-fashioned school that was taught to

believe that an honest man was one who said little of his own honesty

and less of the supposed dishonesty of others.

A convention of this character can be carried on with but little

capital, and may travel a good ways on sheer wind; but with all respect

to free speech, it takes money to carry on Government and conduct

business, and if capital is as timid as it is supposed to be, and if

some of our political friends were as dangerous as they sound, all of

the money would have been scared out of America before I commenced these

remarks on capital. Allow me, however, respectfully to suggest that we

of this country are engaged in many vast enterprises; we are responsible

to many men and their families for the opportunity to work and to earn a

living. We are committed to the completion of many National enterprises

of great magnitude. Our crops are none too large, our reserve capital is

small and is growing smaller. The general industrial and financial

conditions of the country from the point of view of thoughtful men who

understand the situation, are not as satisfactory as I wish they were,

and those who are gaining fame and ascending to office by wild

denunciations of wealth are willing to assume hazards that I do not

envy. (Applause)

Honest capital is more secure when governments are made honest and

special privileges are denied, when graft is prevented and crimes are

punished: and there is never any danger in real reform, but infinite

harm can be done by attractive orators of maximum lung power and

minimum brains (applause). Honesty is the best policy in large business

and in small business, and the most that capital ought to expect or

demand, and the most that will be profitable to it in the long run, is

to seek and if it can obtain the passage and the enforcement of equal

and just laws, the continuation of justice, and the right honestly to

accumulate, hold and enjoy property (applause). The relations of capital

to Conservation are identical with its relations to all other business.

As Conservation tends to increase and continue the natural resources of

the country, the fertility of the soil, the perpetuation of the forests,

the flow of streams, and all of those conditions that insure the

substantial welfare of the country, the capitalist has an equal interest

with all other citizens in Conservation, and the added interest that he

can share in a greater degree in the resulting and continuing prosperity

than his less fortunate neighbor.

Some excellent things have been done and said in this convention. If

"conversational conservation" would cure the evils under which we live

we would have no need of doctors for a long time. As against

"conversational conservation" I wish now to say a few words about

constitutional conservation. From now on I may wander a little from the

rich subject that has been assigned to me, but I have been much

interested in the suggestion that that branch of the Government that can

accomplish the most good for the people should take charge of their

business and affairs connected with Government. Unless, however, we have

some authoritative source other than the nebulous question of the

general welfare to determine where this authority lies, I am

apprehensive that most of the resources of Government would be

dissipated in fighting over the question of authority.

What I now hold to be true for all time--and you will all agree with me

some day--is that that branch of the Government that under our

constitutional system is designated as the one having the authority is

the only branch of the Government that can benefit capital, conserve or

advance the rights of the people, or do justice in any way whatever.

Conservation as it was understood in its inception in this country, the

preservation of our soils, our forests, and our resources presented a

subject of little difficulty, and in connection with which we were all

practically in accord and where apparently there would have been no

occasion for any serious disagreement. No more new or difficult

questions of Government are legitimately involved in Conservation and

forestry than are involved in cultivation and farming.

If the device of using the public lands to graft Government onto

Conservation had not been invented by some civic genius, we would have

had 90 percent of conservation to 10 percent of controversy. But when

the landlord seeks to be the governor, especially in America, we get 90

percent plus of controversy and 10 percent minus of conservation.

Landlord law and governmental conservation was devised, we are told, to

control wealth for the benefit of the plain, small man. Inquire in the

vicinity of any forest reserve, and you will find that there are more

plain, small people than there used to be, and they are getting plainer

and smaller every day; so apparently the good work will never end.

As briefly as I may, and seriously as I can, I will state the situation

that confronts the people of the West, the poor man and the capitalist

alike, in connection with the forest reserve. Forest reserves were

authorized by Congress for the purpose of protecting forests and

conserving the source of supply of streams. Probably one-third of the

200,000,000 acres that have been set apart in forest reserves in the

western one-third of the United States are reasonably necessary and

suited to these purposes. As to the other two-thirds, they were largely

included--and in some instances this is frankly admitted--for the

purpose of authority for Government control, to include pasture lands,

power-sites, irrigation projects, and the like. If forest reserves had

been created to meet the actual necessity which brought them into

existence, and if they had been administered with due deference to the

rights of the State within which they are situated, to improve and

develop its resources without restraint, to construct or authorize to be

constructed roads and highways, railroads, telephone and telegraph

lines, canals and ditches for the beneficial use of water, and the

functions of local self-government had not been assumed to the Federal

authorities and denied to the local authorities, I could conceive of no

reason why the forestry policy could not have been carried out with

great credit and some profit to the Federal Government and greatly to

the advantage of the district in which the forests are situated. The

pity of it all is that this has not been done. We are told that the

sentiment in opposition to transferring from the States to the Federal

Government important functions of regulation and control is not

unanimous. This is true as to districts not directly affected by the

forest reserves; but as to the people within and in the vicinity of the

forest reserves, in other words, as to those who have come directly or

indirectly in contact with bureaucratic government, the sentiment is

about as unanimous as ever existed in America.

That the Forester and those under him honestly desire to benefit the

people, especially "the poor, small man," we need not deny; that the

actual results have been beneficial, however, we wholly deny. The

imperial dominion withdrawn includes territory as large as 20 or 30

average-size eastern States, amounting frequently to one-fifth or

one-fourth, and sometimes even exceeding the latter fraction of the

territory within a State, and practically taking over and paralyzing

local self-government in certain entire districts of a State. These

lands are, and if the policy continues will remain forever, withdrawn

from State taxation and revenue, and instead will become a source of

expense and burden. First, considering the prime purpose to preserve and

protect the forest, what has been the result? The Forester and those

under him have my profound sympathy in connection with the recent awful

destructive forest fires and the heroic way in which the disaster was

met, even though it was not overcome.

For many years experienced and practical men in the West have protested

against the policies pursued. Previous to the establishment of the

forest reserves the land was pastured by sheep and cattle, admittedly in

some instances over-pastured. Frequent fires ran through the country,

but in most instances as the country had been closely pastured off and

fires had usually recently occurred, these fires did only incidental

harm, and in a general way the great forests of the West in many

districts--although the result of mere natural processes--as valuable

and magnificent as there are in the world, were retained in their

primitive and perfect condition. For a good many years now exactly the

reverse of this primitive condition has prevailed. Sheep have been

excluded and cattle have been limited; falling and decaying timber, the

growth of vegetation from year to year, and the accumulation of

underbrush and debris have continued; and we have gone on conserving our

forests in such a way that we have been accumulating fuel and the

elements of destruction, piling up wrath against the day of wrath, until

the fires, in spite of precautions, have started, and the destruction

that has resulted is inevitable. What is needed now in this particular

is a surgeon who has the nerve to amputate the conditions that create

fire, and until this is done the danger will go on increasing from year

to year and more destruction than benefits will inevitably result. To

those who suggest that a sufficient patrol will prevent fires, I respond

that they ought to try the experiment of filling a building with powder,

putting an ample guard around it, and touching a match to it.

These great reserves have been practically closed to settlement and

homesteading. The price of pasturage has been increased, the number of

cattle and sheep pastured has been diminished, and the price of meat

correspondingly advanced. The price of stumpage has been doubled and

trebled, no small mills have been or can be successfully started, and

the price of lumber to consumers has been increased. The policy has

limited the construction of canals and other appliances for irrigation,

and still more effectually limited the construction of like appliances

for the diversion of water for the development of electric power. If

this water could be diverted for irrigation and electric power under

State laws without other restraint, the quantity available in the

majority of the western States is so great that the supply would exceed

the demand, the price would be lower, the consumption greater, and in

every way the people would be benefited. The country would be settled,

the people would be more prosperous, the supply of water and electricity

would be more abundant and cheaper, and all of the people and all of the

industries would be correspondingly more prosperous.

It is gratifying that the line of cleavage and difference between the

advocates of bureaucratic control over local industries and the

advocates of local self-government have been better defined. Upon the

all-important question of the law applicable to this subject, I submit

that there is little ground for honest difference. The Supreme Court of

the United States has decided practically every phase of the matter over

and over again, and the law is settled to the following effect: That the

United States Government owns the public lands in each of the States as

private proprietor and not as sovereign; that it, the Federal

Government, if it seeks to assert any authority in any State, must find

its warrant in the Constitution and not in the ownership of the public

lands; that the authority of the United States Government to adopt

needful rules and regulations in connection with public lands is an

authority to protect its proprietary interest and not exercise

governmental functions within any State; that every State is upon an

equal footing with all of the other States, and for the protection of

its own people, its own industries, and the regulation of its own

monopolies, each State has all of the powers of any other Government;

that the United States Government exercises the same power, and each of

the States exercises the same power, "no more and no less," regardless

of the existence or non-existence of public land in any State.

The whole pretense made by some that the United States Government can

exercise exceptional governmental authority in a State having public

lands is a pretense and a pretense only. Under the decision of the

Supreme Court of the United States, such a claim has no shadow of

foundation, and its assertion is merely injurious, detrimental to

capital, destructive to industry, and can never serve any useful purpose

of regulation or otherwise. These principles being fully decided and

clearly in mind, it is hard to understand why the issue is raised, and

how it is hoped that the policy can be imposed upon the western States

or any other States under the Constitution. It has been said with

derision that the corporations are appealing to the Constitution. I

would to God that neither the corporations nor the American people might

ever appeal to anything worse. However much evil may have been taught,

no honest man need be apprehensive of injustice if his rights and the

rights of his fellow citizens are always measured by a just construction

of the Constitution of the United States. (Applause)

We are told, and I think some of our adversaries honestly believe the

tale, that all of the remaining resources of the country belong to all

of the people. That "all of the resources belong to all of the people"

is a slogan that sounds good. Its chief defect is that it is not true,

and the next objection is that to assert it now, after pursuing an

exactly contrary policy as to four-fifths of the Nation's resources,

would be an intolerable injustice. The United States Supreme Court

decided a long time ago that the United States Government received and

held the public lands as trustee for the benefit of the people and the

States within which they were situated, to the end that they might be

disposed of to actual settlers at nominal prices in order that the

country might be settled, cultivated, populated, and developed; the

lands come under the taxing power, and all of the unrestrained functions

of State government. These decisions have been reaffirmed, and it has

been held that the United States' title and trusteeship as to the public

lands is identical in all the States. Therefore it is not true as a

matter of understanding or of law that the United States is the

unrestrained proprietor of the public lands, but it holds in them a

trust; and I submit that no justice can be done or good come from the

violation or attempted violation of a trust. Considering the equity of

the situation, if the United States is now the owner of the remaining

lands and resources for all of the people, it has been such from the

beginning of the Government; and having disposed of these resources to

the beneficiaries entitled thereto, it is now seriously proposed to

seize upon the remaining fraction and hold that fraction for the benefit

of all the people, as much as for the benefit of the people and the

sections of the country that have received their proportion as for those

who have not received theirs.

The situation might be illustrated by this simple statement: Uncle Sam

may be assumed to be the father of four sons; we will name them East,

North, South, and West. Uncle Samuel being liberal to a fault and

mindful of a trust, has transferred to his three elder sons, East,

North, and South, all of their share in his estate. But these elder

sons, especially after their industrious younger brother has begun to

show the real value of his portion of their father's estate, begin to

look with covetous eyes upon the younger brother's inheritance. Finally

a deep sense of justice begins to pervade the minds of East, North, and

South, and they appear before Uncle Samuel and say, "Father, you have

been very profligate in the management of your great estate. You have

turned over to us and to our children without needful restriction the

whole of the proportion that we can rightfully claim. In the doing of

this you have shown great incompetency and have practiced many faults,

and behold, you have sinned against Heaven and in the sight of men. We

can see no way of atoning for this awful offense except that you shall

take and hold that portion of the estate that should descend to our

younger brother for the benefit of all of your children. And as a

further atonement, having shown in the distribution of your estate to us

that you are dishonest and incompetent in the last degree, in

consideration thereof we will nominate and appoint you the landlord and

guardian, without bonds and forever, of that portion of the estate that,

except for this atonement, would have belonged to our younger brother;

requiring you, however, to see to it with scrupulous care that we, your

elder sons, shall receive from the rents, leases, and profits of this

estate our equal shares with our beloved younger brother." Painful as it

may seem, these elder brothers seem well nigh unanimous as to this

scheme of atonement, and Uncle Samuel seems weak and subject to the

influence of the majority. History, however, will record that the

Constitution broke the will and the elder brothers were charged with

the costs and counsel fees. (Laughter)

If anyone present feels justified in challenging the accuracy or

historical correctness of the foregoing statement or its logical

application to the situation, he will now please rise and state his case

or hereafter forever hold his peace.

The overshadowing political reason why the United States Government must

invade the public land States and assert powers of government that it

cannot assert in any other States we are told is to control monopolies.

As a controller of monopolies not constitutionally subject to be

controlled by the Federal Government, and under claims of title to the

public lands, the United States Government and its respective bureau

chiefs would have St. George, the dragon destroyer, outclassed at the

ratio of sixteen to one. It may do as a political issue for a long time,

but if the people of the western States had no powers of government or

sources of control within themselves, or except through the Federal

Government, the public lands, and the heads of bureaus, these people

would have little to expect or hope for.

It is gratifying, however, to observe that instead of being helpless and

impotent, the western States not only have all of the powers that are

vested in any other Government for the protection of their people from

monopoly and wrong, but an understanding of their constitutions and laws

clearly demonstrates that they are showing themselves far more alert,

advanced, and capable in these functions of government than either the

Federal Government or the older States in the East. It ought not to be

necessary to say to an American audience that it is elementary that the

people of a locality can give themselves more honest, efficient, and

better government than can be given to them by any remote authority. The

reason for this is so simple that the only excuse for attempting to deny

it is the ignorance and incapacity of the people concerned to carry on

or carry out self-government. The people of the western States alone

will suffer if they do not efficiently and intelligently exercise their

undoubted authority to supply themselves with good self-government, and

efficiently control and direct their own industries and their own

monopolies.

About the only argument that is made in favor of Federal control and

against local self-government in the West is that the corporations

appear to prefer the former. The question is not what the corporations

prefer but what the Constitution requires; and, in the next place, the

corporations do not deny the authority of the States because they are

advised that they cannot and therefore should not attempt to do so, and

because they are advised that they must in any event submit to local

self-government and that Federal control would be an additional and not

a lawful but a wholly unauthorized usurpation of authority. The American

people, of all people in the world, have earned the reputation of being

the most obedient to law and the least submissive to usurpation of any

people in the world. If some of our wealthy men and some of

corporations have offended against honesty and attempted to circumvent,

misapply, and misuse the law, these are instances to be regretted,

condemned, and punished. The practice should be abandoned, and if not

abandoned rigorously prevented; having it, however, religiously in mind

that ultimate justice can be done and the law vindicated only by

adhering to due process of law.

We are told that Switzerland as a Nation regulates and manages its own

power business. Since, however, Switzerland has no more authority or

powers of government than California, Colorado, or New York, and since

it is probably one-tenth the size of these States and its cantons are

about the size of an ordinary western school district, this would not

appear to indicate any reason why the western States of the Union could

not successfully carry out the same function of government.

Our former President has said to us that he would be as swift to prevent

injustice and unwarranted uprising against property as anyone. This I do

not doubt, and I am prepared to agree that probably no one living could

perform the task more cheerfully or effectively; but in this connection

it might not be improper to reflect that the people have been taught,

and rightly so, that this is "a government of law and not of men," and

we rely upon the equal and continued protection of the law for the

protection of our persons and our property, not upon the life or

disposition of any man.

We have already referred to the assertion that the remaining resources

of the Federal Government belong to all of the people and are to be

administered and revenues obtained for their full benefit. We are not,

however, deluded with the thought that we are to begin to draw

individual dividends. The revenues thus obtained are to go into the

Federal treasury (and allow me parenthetically to suggest that the

pay-roll will not be far behind the earnings), but if through some

oversight a balance should be found in favor of all of the people it

will go into the Federal treasury to reduce taxation to the common

benefit. Allow me to suggest, and ask all thoughtful people to well

consider, that if sufficient revenues were collected and paid into the

Federal treasury to prove of great benefit to a hundred millions of

people, the collection and payment of these same revenues will of

necessity amount to some slight imposition and burden upon the ten

millions of people when they are paid out of their resources and

revenues.

While we are considering monopolies it might not be inappropriate to

consider that they are of two classes: private monopolies and government

monopolies. One of the highest functions of government is to control and

regulate private monopolies. It is not always easy, but the undoubted

power exists and if properly applied is effective. History records that

four-fifths of the exactions and oppressions and human sufferings that

have existed in the world have come about when the conduct of business

and the sources of supply were confined and vested in the government

and constituted a government monopoly. Government monopolies are

invariably created for the alleged benefit of the people, and throughout

all history have almost invariably operated to the oppression and

detriment of the people and ultimately to deprive them of their

liberties. In the face of these undeniable records of history, the

people of the western States are invited to surrender their control over

their industries and their own private monopolies and have substituted

therefor a Federal Government monopoly over which they could have no

possible control. The western States are asked not only to surrender

this control, but along with it to surrender the powers of taxation and

revenue over all these great resources. My friends, some of you may

congratulate yourselves that these so-called policies are popular, and

no doubt to a certain extent they are; we think, however, because they

are misunderstood. There need be no misunderstanding between us. You are

welcome to your assumption of victory, and to the assumption of defeat

for those who adhere to the right of local self-government.

We are correctly told that the ancient doctrine of State rights ended at

Appomattox. The doctrine was there ended that the Federal Government did

not have all of the power necessary to protect and continue the Nation

for the common defense and the general welfare. The undeniable doctrine

and right of the American people within the several States to continue

an unrestrained local self-government was at that time neither destroyed

nor impaired. The right and doctrine of local self-government will

endure and continue until, if ever, some common disaster shall terminate

and end the National existence as well as the existence of the several

States. No question is ever settled until it is settled right. Frankly,

today may be yours but tomorrow is ours. The Constitution of this

country is greater and more enduring than any man. Let there be no

misunderstanding between us. You should not, but if you would you

cannot, deprive the people of this country in any number of States or in

any one State of the equal guaranteed constitutional right of local

self-government.

In recent months, so numerous have been the complaints and utterances

against the courts that it would almost appear that there was a common

design to discredit the courts with the American people. For even a

longer period there have been recurring attacks upon and denials of the

capability and capacity of the representative branch of our government.

Even within its obvious jurisdiction the Legislative department has not

only been excessively criticized but its very powers denied. The

Executive of the country and each of the States, Congress, and each

Legislature of each of the States, the Supreme Court and all of the

subordinate courts, derive all of their authority from the American

people through the Constitution of the United States. He who acts

without and in spite of the Constitution acts without authority from the

people. Constitutions are adopted to safeguard the rights of all men and

to protect minorities from majorities. The question is not, where the

Constitution declares the measure of right, what the majority wants, but

the question is, what does the Constitution declare; and that is the

beginning and the end of the law. The Government under which we have

lived is the best vindicated Government in the history of the world. If

a democratic people, as we have been told, have destroyed more since the

adoption of the Constitution than has been wasted and destroyed in

Europe in all of its history, we may admit this and agree that it is

wise always to prevent waste; but we can with equal truth assert that if

our free people under our free institutions have destroyed more than the

people of Europe in their entire history, our people by scientific

research and invention have added more to the potential and productive

power of the earth and the elements for the benefit and subsistence of

mankind than has been added by the people of Europe, Asia, and Africa

during the entire recorded history of the world--all since the adoption

of the Constitution of the United States.

Whether it be popular or unpopular, it is true that the tendency to

belittle the legislative power, to disparage judicial power, and to

correspondingly exalt the executive power, is the same evil tendency

that has destroyed every free government that has ever existed. It is

the same spirit that overthrew the mild judicial government of Samuel

and made Saul of Tarsus king over Israel. It is the same spirit that

subverted the free cities and provinces of Greece, and made Alexander,

the Macedonian, the sole arbiter of the destinies not only of the people

of Greece but of the whole eastern world. It is the same spirit that

subverted the Senate and the tribunals of Rome, and made Julius Caesar

and his successors the emperors and rulers of the entire known world for

succeeding centuries. We may agree that no such events will recur in

modern history. But it is the same spirit that brings about such a

condition in Mexico that nobody knows or cares when Congress meets or

adjourns, because they never pass or suggest the passage of any laws

that have not already been approved by the President. They must have a

Supreme Court in Mexico, because their Constitution is very similar to

our own. For the same reason we assume that they have States, although

nobody ever hears of them. Neither do we hear of any one criticizing the

decisions of the Supreme Court of that country; nobody has ever

suggested that within the last quarter of a century that court has ever

decided anything displeasing to the President.

The United States of America today is the world's sole and single

exception where the people under a constitution through a long period of

years have been guaranteed and have received the equal protection of the

law. No guards have been required to stand at our city gates, no

bayonets have defended our towns; we have all lived and prospered under

the equal protection of equal laws. (Applause)

These institutions are human, they are imperfect and under them errors

have been committed, but undeniably under this Government the people

have received a larger measure of liberty together with a better

distribution of the benefits of industry than was ever received or

enjoyed hitherto by any people in the world. We favor that new

efficiency that is neither National nor State, that under an equal

respect for the Nation and for the State and for each branch of the

Government strives for a higher condition of civic virtue, better

enforcement and greater respect for the law in all of its branches. I

hope and pray that none of us may ever be required to look beyond the

years when the Constitution and the law in letter and in spirit are no

longer supreme in this country and when we shall have reverted to "that

good old simple plan, that each may take whate'er he may and keep

whate'er he can." (Applause)

* * * * *

Professor CONDRA--Ladies and Gentlemen: A question has been sent to the

Chair: "Will the Congress close this evening?" We do not know; probably

the Congress itself will decide. There are several other features in the

program, and there will be a report by the Committee on Resolutions. It

may be that the Congress can finish all of its work today if you choose

to re-convene.

You all know the next speaker, Honorable John Barrett, Director-General

of the Pan-American Union. (Applause)

* * * * *

Mr BARRETT--Mr Chairman, Ladies and Gentleman: When the captivating

senior Senator from Indiana fascinated us yesterday, and after holding

us enthralled by his eloquence ending with that magnificent climax in

eulogy of Gifford Pinchot, he left this room remarking to the reporters

that he couldn't stay longer because he must go down and look after his

State and 3,000,000 people. Now, if some of the rest of us relied on the

measure of States and population as a reason for not being here, we

would not come at all. For example, I might have said, when invited to

take part in the work of this Congress, that I couldn't possibly come

because I might neglect that which was best for 21 independent Republics

and 160,000,000 people. What I want to say is this--that I would like to

multiply twenty times over all the enthusiasm with which Senator

Beveridge fired us yesterday, and extend it to many millions of people,

in order that the wave started here by him and other speakers might

sweep over the whole western hemisphere and remove the slightest

question that all these Republics are awake to the practical value of

Conservation.

Possibly some of you do not know very much more about the practical work

of the Pan-American Union than I knew about the country to which I was

first appointed minister some sixteen or seventeen years ago--when I

knew as little about foreign affairs as some of us did a few years ago

about Conservation. One day the President of the United States, with two

United States Senators from North Carolina standing near by--if one of

them had been from North Carolina and the other from South Carolina

there wouldn't have been any doubt as to what the conversation was to

be (laughter), but as both came from the same State I was in the

dark--looked at me and said, "Mr Barrett, I am trying to find some young

man who is not afraid of hard work and wants to make a reputation for

himself to go off to a distant country, in another part of the world, to

settle a case involving several millions of dollars and our treaty

rights in the Orient; I am looking for a minister to Siam." Well, I

thought that he wanted me to recommend somebody, and was trying to think

of somebody in my State that I would like to get rid of and never see

again, when he added, "I am thinking of appointing you; what do you know

about Siam?" To save my life I couldn't even remember where it was, and

I was conscious of the terrible impression I must be making upon the

Executive, when with a twinkle in his eye he intimated "I have him this

time." Then, a child-memory coming back, I braced myself and said, "Why,

Mr President, _I know all about Siam_." "You do? What do you know about

that country?" "Why, Mr President, Siam is the country that produced the

Siamese Twins." Whereupon he shook my hand and said he was delighted to

get hold of a man of such abundant information. (Laughter)

Now, before proceeding further, let me, as one of the officers of this

Congress--although one who has had very little to do with its hard

work--join with you in expressing profound appreciation of the splendid

hospitality that has been shown the Delegates and all others who have

come here to the city of Saint Paul in the State of Minnesota

(applause). Moreover, I believe it is only fair and fitting that we

should also express our gratitude for the hard work and the devotion to

this Congress shown by President Baker and Secretary Shipp and Professor

Condra and Chairman White and other men belonging to the Executive

Committee. (Applause)

I have been asked, as a resident of the District of Columbia, whether,

if this Congress shall go to the East next year, it might not go to the

city of Washington, and there arouse the interest and the sympathy of

the East. The West is awake; and if it be necessary to secure the

cooperation of the eastern sections, and if the Executive Committee

hesitates as to where it may go, I can assure them that by the city of

Washington, the Capital of the Nation, will be given a welcome akin to

that which has been given by the city of Saint Paul.

Ladies and Gentlemen, one feature of this Congress has made a profound

impression upon me, of which perhaps too little mention has been made:

the cooperation and interest of the women. That was a splendid speech

made the other day by Mabel Boardman; other women have spoken well, and

others will. I assure you that there is no better omen of the success of

this movement than this cooperation by women (applause). And I want to

say right here, that whenever I am able to pay a tribute to the courage

and the quality of women, I like to do it. It so happened that I was

your first minister to Panama, in the days which tried men's

souls--where I, as minister, frequently had to preside where three or

four splendid boys, graduates from our colleges and high schools, were

laid under the wet clay in one grave, all victims of yellow fever. When

I went down there with General Davis, then Governor of the Canal Zone,

there were some sixteen girls, nurses, picked from all over this

country--I think one or two came from Saint Paul or Minneapolis--who had

never seen yellow fever before, had never experienced the pestilential

conditions faced in Panama when we were "blazing the way" for the

present sanitary condition. Well, they came and took up their work; and

in a short time the yellow fever spread until men were dying every day

in increasing numbers, and both the boys and men came to us and begged

that they might return to the United States--in the parlance of the

canal work, they had "cold feet," and it was with the greatest

difficulty that we were able to hold them there to perform the great

task of making the zone sanitary as well as digging the canal that the

oceans might be united; but when the yellow fever was conquered, General

Davis and I discovered that during all that time of peril and death and

threatened desertion, not _one_ of those sixteen girls faltered or asked

permission to leave her station of duty. (Great applause)

Ladies and Gentlemen, it is a pleasure today to be followed by a

representative of the British government who is a credit to his

government and to the great man whom he represents here, the Right

Honorable James Bryce, British Ambassador (applause). There is nothing

more splendid than the thought of the cooperation of this mighty country

north of us, Canada, with her 4,000,000 square miles and her ambitious

men and women with problems akin to ours; and it is both appropriate and

flattering that the British Empire should have responded to the

invitation and sent here a special representative of their Embassy

(applause). We are to be congratulated on his attendance.

It seems to me that during the past three or four days I have heard the

word "insurgent" used. Am I correct, Mr President?

President BAKER--"Progressive."

Mr BARRETT--I think there have been some references to progressiveness

and insurgency. Now, as the head of an international bureau whose

constituency is composed of twenty Latin-American Republics, I want to

tell you that you don't know anything here about real insurgency

(applause). Why, we have men in Central America and South America who

could make Murdock and Madison look like picayune persons if they came

in competition with them in the matter of insurgency. We have Republics

that can give Kansas and Wisconsin and Nebraska and Minnesota cards and

spades and all the trumps in the pack, and then beat them out in

insurgency. But I want to say this, that in all my experience in those

countries as minister and my studies of their history, there has never

been an insurgency or revolution, from Mexico south to Argentina which

has succeeded without at the same time moving the country forward for

its benefit (applause). I do not say this in any political spirit,

because I am not in politics; being an international officer, I am

neither republican nor democrat, but a citizen of America; yet I do say

this, that the spirit of onward movement among men shown thus from time

to time is a splendid sign of the progressive type which characterizes

the American people, whether they be American of North America or

American of South America. (Applause)

Ladies and Gentlemen, it would be a splendid thing today if the voice

that has been sounded here on Conservation could be heard by every

Pan-American--through that All America comprehending not only our own

wonderful land but twenty other Nations, covering an area of 15,000,000

square miles, having a population of 175,000,000 people, and conducting

a foreign commerce valued at the magnificent total of $2,000,000,000

annually. Only a few years ago Latin-America seemed almost like an

unknown land; but today these countries from Mexico and Cuba south to

Argentina and Chile are making more progress commercially and materially

than almost any other section of the world. We hear much of the Orient,

of Japan and of China, whose inhabitants are alien people, alien in

philosophy, alien in religion, raising the greatest racial question

before the world; but here at the south of us are twenty sister Nations

whose peoples have the same ambitions as yours, the same religion, the

same philosophy, the same hopes--and yet you and I have been sitting in

cozy corners flirting with Japan and China, and neglecting our own

sisters in our own family (applause). Last year Argentina--a country

half as large as our own splendid land, in a temperate zone, with nearly

7,000,000 splendid white people, having sons whom you would allow your

daughters to marry and daughters you would allow your sons to

marry--conducted a greater foreign trade than the 50,000,000 Japanese or

the 300,000,000 Chinese (applause); and yet we are neglecting them. Now

these countries gained independence at the hands of leaders who studied

the life of George Washington (applause), and they have continued their

existence under the example of such men as Abraham Lincoln. Whether you

go upon the high Andes or in the valley of the great Amazon, the names

of Washington and Lincoln are known almost as well as those of their own

great heroes who helped them to win independence.

Ladies and Gentlemen, it is time that through the cooperation of all

these countries we should accomplish protection for them and for

ourselves; and we should have in the near future a great Pan-American

Conference of Conservation, when all the countries from Canada south

will send their representatives to join us in working together to

safeguard their prosperity, to safeguard our own, to promote our mutual

and several interests until this whole hemisphere from Alaska and the

Arctic on the north to Chile and the Straits of Magellan on the south

shall present a united force for the benefit not only of ourselves but

of those who are to come after us. Is there anything more magnificent

than this thought that the twenty-one independent Republics and an

independent Nation like Canada should join hands in such a purpose? The

details I shall not discuss, but I want it to be a thought that shall

sink into your minds.

Now, I wish that I could take all the "hot air" that has arisen in this

great auditorium and make a mighty balloon to take you for a trip over

our sister countries (applause). I would like to show you Brazil, into

which you could place all of the United States and still have room left

over for the German empire; I would like to take you up the Amazon, out

of which flows five times the volume of the Mississippi; I would like to

take you to Buenos Aires, the capital of Argentina, which has a

population of 1,200,000 and is growing faster than any city in the

United States with the exception of New York and Chicago--I would like

to show you its magnificent boulevards, its splendid public buildings,

its schools, its cathedrals and churches; I would like to take you

across the Andes over that wonderful tunnel just completed and show you

Chile, which if placed at the southern end of California would reach up

into the heart of Alaska, in the very infancy of a splendid development;

I would like to take you into Bolivia, into which you could put Texas

three times and still have room left over; into Peru, which would cover

the whole Atlantic Coast from Maine to Georgia; into Colombia, where you

could place all of Germany and France; into Mexico, that would cover the

whole southwestern section of this country; I would like to take you

over all these countries and show you how they are moving forward, prove

to you the remarkable fact that during the last fifteen years that part

of the world has gone ahead with progress almost equal to ours. Now, if

we in this country are going to meet the great problems of manufacturing

and the employment of labor and capital in the future, we must aid these

countries to conserve their resources to supply our manufacturing plants

with raw material. Hundreds of millions of dollars today are keeping

occupied by laboring men in this country factories that would have to be

closed tomorrow if these countries were unable to supply us with their

raw materials--think of that as we remember where we were only

twenty-five years ago; and if some God-given influence can empower them

to see our mistakes we will find, twenty-five years from now, Brazil and

Argentina and Mexico and Canada providing us with those elements which

shall make this country forever the greatest power in the world for

civilization and for commerce. (Applause)

As I stand here before an audience of the West an inspiration comes for

the work we have in Washington that only those can feel whose residence

is not entirely in the West. Though born and brought up in New England

and later taking my residence on the Pacific Coast, I have been much out

of the country representing you abroad; and I rejoice in the ozone of

patriotism that I am able to absorb in a State like Minnesota. Time and

time again, after trips around the world I have arrived in New York or

in Washington hardly feeling that I was in the United States of America;

but when I have crossed the Alleghenies into the Mississippi valley,

into sections like this, then I have felt the pulsing of red blood, that

impulse and influence which is making our country great; and I am proud

today to be able to go back to Washington feeling more capable than ever

before for my humble task because of the contact with representative men

of the West. (Applause)

There are two personal references that I make before I sit down: When on

Tuesday I sat on the platform and saw the personality of the foremost

private citizen of the world exerting its influence, the prime thought

that came into my mind was, not that he was speaking for the great cause

of Conservation, not that he was appealing to the moral sense of our

people, but that there stood a splendid, a perfect example of what the

young men of this country can do (applause). Is there anything finer

than to see a man of his physique, with the glow of health upon his

face, the father of a family of which he can be proud, a man with a

clear moral life and courageous career, one whose voice has been heard

all over the world with respect--is there anything finer than that we

should raise up in this country that class of men? And I tell you it

would be disgraceful to our country with its 90,000,000 people if we

could not produce a man of that kind. It is the personal influence of

Theodore Roosevelt, all over this country, not only among our young men,

but among our young women, leading to world uplift and to sterling

character, that we must have in order to fight the battles that are

before us. (Great applause)

And there is this suggestion about his chief lieutenant who has perhaps

been the father of this movement: I have known Gifford Pinchot

personally, as a dear friend, for many years. It makes my heart well up

with joy, it makes my pride as an American citizen more emphatic than

ever before, when I think that a man born in affluence of a splendid

family, born with every opportunity in the most exclusive circles of New

York and Washington, a man who could own his private yacht or spend his

time in the gaieties of fashionable resorts, a man who could belong to

every club and enjoy all its pleasures--that such a man has devoted his

life unselfishly to the good of the American people and to the cause of

Conservation (great applause). It is a splendid example of true American

manhood; and when he speaks here, as he has spoken in other places, the

influence that he exerts is not merely for the cause of Conservation but

for the highest ideals which you and I have of American manhood. So I

rest assured that the cause of Conservation, with such an advocate as

Theodore Roosevelt and such an apostle as Gifford Pinchot, will not be

confined within the limits of the United States but will resound through

Canada and through Mexico and on south even to the limits of the

southern continent; and I foresee that you and I will be proud that we

were able to participate in the effort to extend this movement. (Great

applause)

* * * * *

A DELEGATE--Mr Chairman: As a member of the Executive Committee of the

National Conservation Congress, I ask for the privilege of the floor for

the purpose of introducing a resolution.

Professor CONDRA--That will be in order immediately after the response

by Honorable Esmond Ovey, Secretary of the British Embassy, which is a

part of the presentation now in progress.

I take pleasure in introducing Honorable Esmond Ovey. (Applause)

* * * * *

Mr OVEY--Mr Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: When I arrived here on

Monday I noticed in the program laid before me a very disquieting item

to the effect that a speech would be delivered on the subject of

"Conservation as a World-wide Question" by a visiting representative of

a foreign nation. I did not think that would mean me, and until

yesterday evening was still hoping that some other representative would

be found, more adequate than myself, to take the burden from my

shoulders. However, no savior has appeared, and I think my best course

will be, under the circumstances, to make an entirely clean breast in

the matter and tell you that my knowledge on the subject of the

technical details of the Conservation of natural resources is very

meager. The field of natural resources with which I personally am more

occupied is one which is slightly different from that which forms the

subject of your deliberations, a field that is perhaps as great and in

many ways certainly as important; it is a field which requires neither

phosphates nor potash, nor any of these ingredients of which I

unfortunately am so ignorant--it is the field of international relation,

and the crop or harvest is the harvest of peace and good will

(applause). The duty of the diplomat is to watch this crop ripen. It is

a crop which can go on forever ripening and getting greater, but there

is, of course, the possibility of some spark dropping; and it is then

the duty of the diplomat to attempt, so far as possible to arrest and

extinguish that spark before it flames up like these wasteful and

terrible conflagrations which occasionally sweep through the forests of

this country. In this connection I will point out that in the immediate

field of international relation between Great Britain and the United

States there has been an exceedingly long period in which there has been

no spark dropped (applause); the year after next will, Gentlemen--I may

call it to your attention--be the 100th birthday of peace between the

two great English-speaking nations of the world. (Applause)

I have the very great pleasure of being here as the representative of my

chief, the British Ambassador, Mr James Bryce (applause). The British

Board of Agriculture were unfortunately unable to send a delegate to

attend this great conference. Mr Bryce himself was the recipient of a

very cordial invitation from the President of this Congress, Mr Baker.

Mr Baker in his letter stated that should Mr Bryce be unable to accept,

he would be glad if a member of his staff could come. Mr Bryce had long

pre-arranged and planned a visit to Panama and South America; I can only

suppose with his great intelligence Mr Bryce (my own immediate chief)

has gone there for the purpose of improving his mind in the

contemplation of the achievements of my friend Mr John Barrett

(applause). I have been commissioned by Mr Bryce to tell you how very

glad he would have been to be able to accept this invitation.

Confidentially, I may tell you that, glad as Mr Bryce would have been to

be here, I do not believe he would have been so glad as I am to be here

myself. (Applause)

Mr Bryce is a man very difficult to represent (applause). His knowledge

is encyclopedic. Even if taken by surprise and asked to speak to an

audience such as this, containing so many representatives of all the

practical, scientific and technical phases of the great problem which is

being discussed at this Congress, he would, I am certain, have been able

to draw on the great storehouse of his knowledge and give you the

benefit of his accurate observation in a technically interesting form. I

can, unfortunately, lay claim to no such talents. I will, however,

refuse to yield to him in the enthusiasm--that sort of contagion to

which Mr Barrett referred--which I feel here in this great country and

in the State of Minnesota on the subject of the noble ideals, the

efforts and the aims of these congresses. It seems to me that the idea

of careful deliberation and open discussion by persons from all parts of

the world in an attempt to arrive at the conclusion and basis on which

to build up a policy of Conservation so you can hand down to posterity

the great benefits that you enjoy, is a very noble conception.

One of the great characteristic differences between Occidental

civilization and that of certain less civilized and advanced Oriental

nations is the great quality of foresight, of looking to the future; and

this is a quality which you possess in a most extraordinary degree. I do

not wish to deny that other people to whom I have referred also possess

this quality; I will, if you permit me, give you an instance to prove

that it is possessed by them, if in a less perfected form.

There was upon a time a gentleman from some unspecified country in the

Far East who had an orchard. To protect this orchard from the prevailing

cold northerly winds which destroyed his fruit in the early winter, he

built a wall on that side of his property. When he had built his wall he

called in a friend to admire it. The friend came and admired it. The

wall was solidly built, six feet high, and twelve feet wide. The friend

asked him, "Why have you chosen these peculiar dimensions for your

wall?" He said, "Ah, I have foresight. I built this way for a reason: my

neighbors' walls are frequently blown over by the wind. When mine is

blown over, it will be twice as high as it was before." (Laughter) Now,

that is not the sort of construction in this magnificent building of

Conservation that you are preparing.

Another quality, if I may be permitted to mention it, that I, as a

foreigner, have observed, is a great quality which is invariably a

concomitant of real progress; it is a certain kind of glorious

dissatisfaction with your own achievements, however great they may be

(applause). For instance, you have something which is very, very

great--your country. You never were satisfied with that, you want to

make it very, very good. You have something which is very, very good,

the great American people; you want to make them, as far as I can

understand, as numerous as possible (laughter and applause). You have

your natural resources, which are very great and very good, perhaps the

greatest and best on earth, and yet you are not satisfied. What do you

do then? You say, "Let's make them _everlasting_." (Applause) Now,

Ladies and Gentlemen, that seems to me a very fine and high ambition on

which you have set your minds.

Before concluding, I will venture to tell you about an impression that I

received on my way out to Saint Paul, on this my first visit west of

Washington. As I looked out of the windows at the flying countryside,

upon lake after lake, upon mountain, valley, plain, stream, forest,

farm, garden, factory, city, town, I said to myself, "What manner of

people then can these well be who have so kindly and courteously asked

me to a Congress which is apparently convening for the purpose of

conserving the natural resources? What manner of people can these be

that by digging, delving, plowing, mining, bridging, tunneling, felling,

and building roads and railroads on all these countless millions of

acres of rich and fertile land--many of which are protected from

approach on the east by apparently uncrossable mountains and unfordable

streams and what to lesser intelligence might seem unbridgable

rivers--what manner of people may these be who, in spite of these

obstacles, in this short period of time, have forced Dame Nature herself

to cry out, Gentlemen, please hold steady with me for a moment."

(Applause) Such were my thoughts: and it seems to me that the necessity

for convening these annual congresses for open discussion of the best

means of avoiding unnecessary waste and of giving nature a chance of

recuperation affords the highest compliment that it is possible to pay

to the enterprise, courage, perseverance, and indomitable pluck of any

nation.

Can you, therefore, Ladies and Gentlemen, ask if in view of these facts

the Government of Great Britain is interested in your efforts? As

Secretary of the British Embassy I myself was instrumental in forwarding

to my Government in one year, through the kind intermediation of the

State Department, no less than 110 copies of the report of the Governors

of 1908 on the Conservation of your National resources, which, if I

understand rightly, was one of the first expressions of this great

movement--110 departments of that Government interested in this

movement. (Applause)

It is my pleasurable duty to inform you that with her own magnificent

dominions across the seas, with her great enterprises in forestry,

irrigation, agriculture, and mining, in all scientific exploitation of

land for the public good in Canada, in Australia, in India, in Egypt, in

South Africa and British East Africa, and in all the other places

throughout the world in which Great Britain is now working, the

Government which I have the honor to serve is in the heartiest possible

sympathy with the great object of your endeavors in conserving for

posterity, for people not yet born, the same magnificent heritage which

you and we enjoy. (Applause)

* * * * *

Professor CONDRA--All those who wish to say that as Delegates we stand

for Pan-American conservation of natural resources, and for good

fellowship and world-wide Conservation of all things best for mankind on

all lines of industrial development, will please rise.

[The audience rose en masse.]

Professor CONDRA--There was a resolution to be offered at this time.

A DELEGATE--Mr Chairman: I move that the time for the election of

officers of the National Conservation Congress for the ensuing year be

fixed for the hour of 8 p.m., Thursday, September 8, and that the

Committee on Resolutions submit their report immediately following the

election of officers.

The motion was seconded by Delegates from Iowa, South Dakota, Utah,

Indiana, North Dakota, Wisconsin, and the District of Columbia; and the

motion was put and carried without dissenting voice.

Professor CONDRA--A recess will be taken until 2 oclock p.m.

_EIGHTH SESSION_

The Congress reassembled in the Auditorium, Saint Paul, at 2 oclock

p.m., Thursday, September 8, President Baker in the chair.

President BAKER--Fellow Delegates, Ladies and Gentlemen: It has been

urged that a nominating committee should be appointed to name officers

proposed to be elected by the Congress as President, Secretary,

Executive Secretary, and Treasurer. The Vice-Presidents have been chosen

by the State Delegations, and their names will be presented this

afternoon. So, unless some other course be preferred, the Chair will

proceed to form a nominating committee. [After a pause.] The nominating

committee will consist of Professor George E. Condra, of Nebraska, as

chairman; E. T. Allen, of Oregon; E. L. Worsham, of Georgia; Lynn B.

Meekins, of Maryland; and William Holton Dye, of Indiana. Delegates are

invited to offer suggestions or nominations to the committee, which will

hold a meeting during the afternoon.

I have the honor now of presenting as presiding officer, His Excellency

A. O. Eberhart, Governor of Minnesota. (Applause)

* * * * *

Governor EBERHART--Mr President, Ladies and Gentlemen: I am indeed sorry

that I am to be engaged elsewhere a portion of this afternoon, so that

I cannot take part in the entire program. We have this afternoon an

unveiling of a statue in the Capital, and I will necessarily have to

take some part in the ceremony; but I shall hasten back just as soon as

I can, so that I may hear the speakers who are on the program for this

afternoon.

I do not know whether the President of this Congress has made a special

effort to secure splendid speakers for this afternoon, but certainly no

session of the Congress, either forenoon, afternoon, or evening, has had

better, more sincere, and more earnest and efficient workers along the

lines of Conservation interests than those for this afternoon; and for

that reason I am indeed sorry that I shall not hear them all.

I want to say to you that the State of Minnesota and the Twin Cities are

proud of the Delegates and the guests and the speakers of this

convention, realizing that perhaps never in the history of the

Conservation movement will there ever be another meeting so important as

this, and one that will redound so much to the progressive and effectual

work of the movement.

I take great pleasure in introducing to you as the first speaker of this

afternoon a man interested in the Conservation movement from the

standpoint of public health--Dr F. F. Wesbrook, Dean of the Medical

Department of our State University--who will speak on "Life and Health

as National Assets." I consider it one of the most important subjects of

the Conservation movement. I take great pleasure in introducing Dean

Wesbrook. (Applause)

* * * * *

Dean WESBROOK--Mr President, Your Excellency, Ladies and Gentlemen:

Short-sighted humanity fails to appreciate nature's gifts until

threatened with their loss. This is true of even the greatest of her

gifts, life itself. Although belated in our realization of the

threatened overdraft on nature's storehouse, a compensatory and

irresistible enthusiasm has developed within the last two years which

augurs well for the retention by our country of that international

leadership so manifestly foreordained by nature's bountiful equipment.

It is significant of our failure to value health, which above all other

considerations makes life worth the living, that the first meeting of

the Governors in the White House in 1908 failed to provide for the study

of health problems. The omission was noted, and in the National

Conservation Commission's Report of January 11, 1909, the general

schedule gave special consideration to life and health. Only four

sections, however, were created in the appointment of the National

Conservation Commission. Health was not provided with a special section

or with officers. In the North American Conservation Congress, in

addition to the Conservation of other National resources, the protection

of game received attention; but among the Commissioners representing the

various countries, there was seemingly no one whose training and

paramount interest lay in the field of public health. While it is

apparent that the initial oversight has been in part repaired it remains

to be seen what progress will result from the Second National

Conservation Congress, in relation to this, the people's most important

natural asset.

The inclusion in the program of a paper entitled "Life and Health as

National Assets" must not be taken as evidence that there is any doubt

as to the real and assessable value of life and health. Rather are we

called upon at this time to realize that they constitute National or

public resources furnished by nature and are not to be regarded as

strictly personal or private possessions. The individual life has its

economic and commercial value to the community and the Nation by virtue

of the contribution it may be expected to make to society. This view may

perhaps be novel to some. Our ideas concerning the conservation of other

natural resources however, have undergone such rapid evolution in the

recent past that we may easily orient ourselves to the viewpoint

exhibited by the officers of this Congress, that the individual in

matters of health, as of other resources, must respect the rights of

other individuals and of his municipality, State, and Government. The

health aspect of Conservation, which is its most important aspect,

cannot and will not be neglected, although it has not been the first to

which the attention of the Nation has been directed.

Nor can we dissociate health conservation from the other aspects of the

movement, even if we would. The history of man's progress in the

knowledge of the natural sciences bears out this statement. Even though

we ourselves have broken faith with nature, we are able today to make

her fulfil her promises in forestry, agriculture, and other economic

matters by the application of our knowledge of those very sciences which

may be said to owe their birth to man's search for perpetual life and

youth. One can easily imagine that the medieval conservation commission

comprised two sections, one on health and the other on minerals. In the

former, which undoubtedly was basic and dominated all other

considerations, the papers presented dealt with "elixir vitae" and the

"touchstone" whilst in the latter the chief interest was displayed in

the "transmutation of metals." At this stage the studies of health and

of the control of man's so-called material assets were carried on hand

in hand; and, if we are logical, they always will be.

In any event, man's health depends on the success of his efforts to

adapt his environment to his needs, more than it does on the adaptation

of himself to his environment. Health interests are fused with social

and economic development, but should undoubtedly dominate rather than be

dominated by them.

Our lack of interest in matters of health is more apparent than real. It

is characteristic of many of us that where our most vital interests are

involved, we betray the least public concern. In nothing is this better

exemplified than in matters of personal and public health, except it be

perhaps in matters of religious belief and practice. Nor should we deem

it strange that a similar attitude of mind obtains in matters of health

and religion. In medieval times the priest and the physician were one.

At the present day, aboriginal tribes combine religion and health, and

to too great an extent, perhaps, do our civilized nations fail to

discriminate between the two. Particularly is this exhibited in man's

cowardly attempt to shift his responsibility for disease and death upon

Providence.

One of the greatest causes of lethargy in the conservation of personal

and public health is the failure on the part of many to differentiate

clearly and sharply between disease and death. The former is really a

manifestation of life and vital force, and is capable of modification,

prevention, or cure by human agency, since man has shown himself quite

able to solve nature's other secrets for the benefit of his comfort or

convenience. We conserve health by the application of the same sciences

which enable us to conserve our other better recognized but less

material natural resources. Disease yields to man's mastery; death

remains man's mystery. Even death, however, may be postponed, and

Professor Irving Fisher has estimated that over 600,000 deaths occur

each year in our country which could be postponed by the systematic

application of the scientific knowledge already available. For those who

think more easily in terms of dollars and cents, he has estimated this

appalling annual National loss at over one billion dollars which can and

should be prevented.

We must not be lulled into any sense of well-being by such statistics.

There is no royal road to such a goal. Our very success in the

eradication of one disease or unsanitary condition may lead to undue

optimism in regard to other problems, which later may be found to be

dependent on altogether different causes and to require very different

methods of prevention or cure. Failure to realize the complexities of

modern social activity and economic development, in their relation to

health, and, at the same time, to recognize the immense number of

variable factors and agencies which are involved in health-protective

measures, cannot but lead to disappointment. The individual whose

enthusiasm is too easily aroused by the discovery of some hitherto

unknown cause of disease, or some new method or theory of cure or

prevention, is a source of danger to the commonwealth. The faddist,

whether in the matter of such things as food, clothing, fresh air,

baths, exercise or other therapeutic agents, as well as the individual

who thinks that he has discovered the one cause of all diseases, is to

be feared.

Our chief difficulty lies in coordinating the various forces and

agencies which are essential to success in the eradication of sickness.

There is no blanket method of preventing all diseases. Quarantine and

fumigation are now found to have but a limited application. Vaccination,

which is practically an absolute and the only reliable protection

against smallpox, cannot be applied to such diseases as malaria, yellow

fever, and diphtheria. The use of antitoxin, which prevents annually

many thousands of deaths from diphtheria, does not help us in many other

diseases. Our knowledge of mosquito-borne disease, which has reorganized

life in Cuba, Panama and the Philippines, is not of much practical use

in our northern States. As there is no single cause, so there can be no

single method either of cure or prevention.

These considerations should not discourage us. They show us, however,

the need of further study, and the imperative demand for employing the

services of trained physicians, biologists, chemists, engineers,

statisticians, sociologists, educationists, and other experts and of

coordinating all their efforts. We must steer a middle course, avoiding

on the one hand the Scylla upon which those run who become discouraged

in the face of what they believe to be the unknowable, and, on the other

hand, the Charybdis of that fateful tendency to minimize the actual

complexities of the present day health problem. Fatalist and faddist are

equally dangerous.

It is fair to count upon the same progress in the adaptation of

physical, chemical, biological, social and other sciences to the

diagnosis, cure and prevention of disease as in their application to

man's comfort, convenience and economic development. It is clear that

the efforts of all the various workers in the different fields must be

coordinated; yet the difficulties of coordination are at once apparent.

The forces and agencies may be roughly divided into international,

National, State, county, municipal and institutional, as well as

individual. Each one of these is capable of still further subdivision

into two classes, one of which is official or governmental and the other

is voluntary. Improvement in public health requires cooperation and

coordination of _all_ these.

Successful public health administration consists largely in making

individuals do what they do not wish to do--or that of which they do not

appreciate the necessity--for the good of themselves and others. This

brings us naturally to the consideration of another National weakness.

We encounter some of the same difficulties in public health work that we

meet in the exercise of our other public functions. Rampant

individualism is of even greater danger in matters of health

conservation than in other affairs of public concern, largely on account

of the fact that health is too often regarded as a purely personal

rather than a most important public asset. The individualist objects to

authority in matters of health control. Consequently he resents

dictation as to his personal action, and fails to recognize the need for

special training in health administration as in other branches of public

service.

Public service of many kinds, and particularly that which relates to the

conservation of health in our country, is all too often relegated to

voluntary agencies, while in other countries it devolves upon official

and governmental agencies. This volitional duty is nobly discharged.

The main function of the volunteer should be, however, to afford to the

general public object lessons of what is needed and of how progress can

be made. In this he rarely fails, although he labors under tremendous

difficulty imposed by lack of authority. Funds which are furnished from

private sources are frequently insufficient to permit of the employment

of experts of the highest order. Public apathy, on the one hand, and the

development of an abnormal interest on the part of voluntary workers on

the other, frequently lead to their continuance in service long after

they have ceased to be useful, with the result either that the public

delays the establishment of an official organization, or, if such an

organization be established, there is a conflict between the official

and voluntary forces. If municipal health departments, hospital

services, police departments, water, school, poor and park boards, and

other official servants and representatives of the people were supported

by the people and were quick to see and to seize their opportunities,

there would be less need of associated charities, of visiting nurses,

pure water and milk commissions, tuberculosis camps, play-grounds

associations, and other such voluntary organizations. Is it not

humiliating that public lethargy made it necessary for Mr Rockefeller to

provide funds for the investigation and eradication of hookworm disease?

In Germany, the Government, through its public health service and

universities, provides for medical and other research so that Nation has

become a leader of the world in scientific health protection and

scientific economic development.

Having seen some of the difficulties which stand in the way of

satisfactory conservation of the public health, we might perhaps ask

ourselves what proof of the possibility of conserving this asset is

available. If, at this day and time, the American public is unconvinced

of the need and possibility of conserving public health, it is

undeserving of the respect of other nations, or even of self-respect.

The daily and weekly press, our magazines, and governmental and other

publications, have overflowed with information. Our attention has been

particularly called to the possibility of preserving the health of men

in the field by Japan's experience in the recent war with Russia. Our

life insurance companies have been quick to see the practical

possibilities of prolonging the lives of their insured and of thus

increasing the earnings of their stockholders.

As illustrating our progress, the report on "National Vitality, Its

Wastes and Conservation," which was issued by the American Association

for the Advancement of Science, is a masterpiece; it was prepared and

presented by Professor Irving Fisher, of Yale University. The

publications of the various committees of the American Medical

Association, and the speech of Senator Owen in the Congressional Record

of March 24, 1910, as well as Federal, State, municipal and other health

reports, afford examples of what can be done.

Those who may be skeptical in regard to the ability of our people to

compete with older nations in the prevention of disease, should note

what has actually been done by Americans under the greatest of

difficulties. In Cuba, our Nation overturned the existing order of

affairs, and scientific discoveries, made and applied to sanitation by

Americans, afforded a lesson to the world. There has been no greater

factor in winning the world-wide confidence of other nations than the

production of the existing sanitary state of affairs in the Canal Zone

by our own citizens. Our work in Cuba, Panama, and the Philippines has

served to bring about hygienic conditions in supposedly pestilential

regions which are vastly superior to those which obtain at home. What

Americans have done for others they have failed to do for themselves,

owing largely to the lack of provision of adequate official and

governmental agencies and to the failure to coordinate those which

exist. Two Americans in Porto Rico showed the possibility of stamping

out hookworm disease. The brains were furnished by the United States,

and the money by the Island. We have the brains at home, but we refuse

to pay the bills.

It is manifest that a full and complete discussion of life and health as

National assets is impossible within the limits of a single paper. No

attempt need be made to present a complete basis either of comparison or

differentiation of health conservation from the other aspects of the

National movement. It must be clear to all that in the conservation of

lands, minerals, waters, and forests, effort is made to prevent the

individual from taking that which belongs to the public. In the

conservation of public health, our effort must be directed to preventing

the individual from giving to the public something which neither he nor

it desires. This is particularly true of infectious diseases. There are

many other phases of public health than those which relate to infectious

disease, but they cannot be discussed at this time.

I have the honor to be a Delegate to this Congress from both the

American Medical Association and the American Public Health Association,

which represent factors in the conservation of human life and health

concerning which the public needs more information than it possesses;

and with your permission, I shall briefly mention a few important

matters:

In the past, individual physicians and local medical associations and

societies have brought a scattering fire to bear upon the inactivity and

ignorance of the general public in matters which pertain to public

health. The public fails to believe in the urgency of health needs, when

presented by individuals or groups of physicians, because of its

inability to appreciate the motive which leads the physician to urge the

establishment of machinery and the special education of officials, as

also the provision of funds to carry on work which to the casual

observer would mean a diminution of the individual physician's work and

income. Physicians who have qualified by postgraduate training in

bacteriology, pathology, epidemiology, and in public health, hospital,

school and institutional administrative work must be drafted into the

direct and official service of the people. This need is increasingly

apparent. Others are required who can present evidence of special

scientific training in chemistry, engineering, statistical,

sociological, charity and other work. At present, great as is the actual

need, the demand on the part of the public and the remuneration offered

are so small and the possibility of employment so uncertain that

universities, technical schools, and other institutions which offer

special courses fail to attract students. The public seems to prefer as

yet to jeopardize its most valuable asset by employing untrained public

health servants who develop efficiency after, instead of before, their

appointment. This means a payment in life and health instead of dollars.

The average individual seems willing to pay, and pay well, for a cure

when he is sick. Communities pay the cost of epidemics, and will even

pay for engineering services in relation to public utilities, such as

water supply and sewage disposal; but this is usually done only under

the stimulus of some recent or threatened disaster. They, like the

individual, want a _cure_, not a _protection_. Clinical experts, life

insurance examiners, and consulting and commercial engineers, are all

sure of a good livelihood because they can help the individual or

community out of difficulties. Sanitarians and municipal engineers are

usually left to semi-starvation, because their function is to prevent

those same difficulties, without, however, having either available

public sentiment or funds to enable them to do it.

Physicians are naturally skeptical of the scientific training and

possession of proper ideals on the part of those who have not been

especially trained in medicine, and who may have failed to develop the

"disease point of view." That they are, however, of a receptive frame of

mind can be shown in many ways. The American Medical Association has a

number of standing committees, including a Council on Medical Education.

This Council, in the endeavor to raise the standard of medical teaching

throughout the United States, prepared a standard schedule of minimal

requirements, through the agency of ten committees, each of which

consisted of ten representative men. One of these ten committees (which

had to deal with hygiene, medical jurisprudence, and medical economics)

contained in its membership university and college professors of

chemistry, physiological chemistry, political economy, pathology,

bacteriology and hygiene. There were also executive officers of State

and municipal boards of health, and representatives of the Federal

Health Service; whilst among the collaborators were engineers and many

university professors. Bear in mind that this was a committee of the

so-called "medical trust"--the American Medical Association.

Through oversight for which no one is responsible, this Second National

Conservation Congress and the American Public Health Association are

meeting on exactly the same dates, September 5-9, we in Saint Paul and

the Association in Milwaukee--I was just able to get here from

Milwaukee. This Association consists of some physicians who are in

practice, but more particularly of Federal, State, municipal and

institutional administrative officers, as also of laboratory,

statistical, engineering, and other technical workers. The membership

includes representatives from all of the leading universities and

medical and technical colleges. It has three sections, namely,

laboratory, vital statistics, and municipal health officer sections. You

are familiar with the work of many of its officers and members. Colonel

Gorgas, who was responsible for the administrative health work in Cuba,

and who has made possible the building of the Panama Canal without undue

loss of life, is a member of both associations. The late Dr Walter Reed,

who eliminated yellow fever from civilized communities, was

vice-president. It is an international association in which Canada,

Mexico, and Cuba also participate, and much can be learned by attendance

at these annual meetings. One of its chief benefits has been the

formulation of standard methods of scientific procedure, applicable to

the suppression of disease in various districts of the several

countries.

We in this country are compelled to admit that our neighbors upon the

north and south have much in the way of advantage which is denied to our

own workers in the United States. In our sister countries, the tenure of

office depends on the fitness and training of the incumbent. As a rule

the compensation for public service is relatively higher, and the

official organizations are better provided with an authority which is

commensurate with their responsibility than is the case in our own

country. Time will not permit extended discussion of these conditions,

but the annual opportunity to compare notes; to tell each other of our

successes, as also of our failures; and to help in the formulation of

new methods and in an effort toward a higher standard of efficiency, is

of untold value. This is, however, a purely voluntary organization

maintained for over thirty years at the personal expense of its members

in the face of public apathy. This will be realized if I ask, "How many

of you knew that we have such an association," and "Did you know that it

is now in session"?

There yet remain a few matters of which a general understanding would

bring about yet greater cooperation between the doctor and the general

public. The medical profession has realized for a number of years that

its members must become teachers of personal hygiene to their patients

and families, as also to schools and the general public. It is a new

viewpoint, and involves the assumption of new responsibilities. The

doctor has guarded himself against publicity except through his

professional societies and journals and to his students, though ever

eager to furnish details of his own discoveries and to recount his

failures and his successes to those who could understand and sympathize.

This kind of publicity has been regarded, however, by the lay public as

a sort of soliloquy carried on in an unknown tongue, and intended for

the mystification of that same poor public.

Why there should be any failure of the medical profession, as a whole,

to be understood by the general public, it is difficult to see. The

general public is composed of individuals, each of whom has a feeling of

trust, affection, and possibly of veneration for one or more members of

the medical profession. Why then does the public, as an aggregation of

individuals, allow itself to become suspicious of the medical

profession, an aggregation of physicians? Why does the public abhor and

obstruct the physician in his study of anatomy, dissection, and autopsy

on the human body? Why is there so much suspicion of the motives and

work, as well as denial of the benefits which accrue to humanity from

animal experimentation, when it must be apparent to any right-thinking

individual that the extension of a physician's knowledge is possible

only by such means? Why must doctors from time to time be themselves

forced to urge the necessity of making every hospital a teaching and

research institution? A moment's thought would convince anyone that if

this be not done, and if medical knowledge be allowed to die out with

this generation, there will be no skilled men available for the

hospitals and patients of the future. It must also be patent to all that

the patients themselves cannot possibly receive such effective care in a

hospital in which medical research and teaching are not fostered. Why

should the burden of maintaining a high standard of entrance to the

profession and of preventing incompetent and untrained persons from

assuming the responsibility of physicians rest solely on the medical

profession, when the object is the protection of private citizens and

public health?

The physicians of the United States are now thoroughly organized. The

public should rejoice in this, since it is an attempt to neutralize the

narrowing effect of isolation and to foster an exchange of information

which physicians offer freely to each other and publish broadcast to the

world (applause). County and State associations are affiliated with the

American Medical Association, which numbers in its membership over

seventy thousand doctors. Just as the individual physician's concern is

the care of his patient, so that of the organized medical profession is

public health and welfare.

The medical profession is, as a rule, underpaid, but members spend their

hard-earned-money and a large portion of their time in efforts to

benefit humanity, individually and _en masse_. It is the people's

concern to demand a broad education and a thorough scientific training

of all students and practitioners of medicine, public and private. It is

to their interest to see that every possible facility is afforded for

teaching and that a rigid standard of teaching, examination, degree

conference, and licensure is maintained. Nothing is more exasperating to

the physician of high ideals, whose length and breadth of sacrifice is

known to none, than to hear the sneer directed at his profession for its

effort to protect the public. The time has come when the medical

profession is in a position to demand that the people exercise

discrimination and protect themselves.

One of the first steps toward the betterment of our public health

conditions is the coordination of the existing Federal agencies in

Washington, of which we are all so proud. When no logical reason can be

advanced in explanation of further delay, it is very discouraging to

realize that this important matter has been postponed. At the 61st

Congress, various bills were introduced, including that of Senator Owen.

In support of these bills appeared those who by special training and

long experience are recognized at home and abroad as the highest

authorities on public health. The whole country is waiting to see what

action her representatives will take to protect her most precious asset.

With your permission, I should like to cite some sixteen reasons why the

people of the United States should have a department of health at

Washington, which were published by the Committee of One Hundred of the

American Association for the Advancement of Science:

1--To stop the spread of typhoid fever through drinking

sewage-polluted water of interstate streams.

2--To enforce adequate quarantine regulations so as to keep out

of the country plague and other similar pestilences.

3--To supervise interstate common carriers, in so far as

without such supervision they prove a menace to the health of

the traveling public.

4--To have a central organization of such dignity and

importance that departments of health of States and cities will

seek its cooperation and will pay heed to its advice.

5--To influence health authorities, State and municipal, to

enact reform legislation in relation to health matters.

6--To act as a clearing-house of State and local health

regulations, and to codify such regulations.

7--To draw up a model scheme of sanitary legislation for the

assistance of State and municipal health officers.

8--To gather accurate data on all questions of sanitation

throughout the United States.

9--To establish the chief causes of preventable disease and

unnecessary ill-health.

10--To study conditions and causes of disease recurring in

different parts of the United States.

11--To correlate and assist investigations carried on in many

separate and unrelated biological and pathological Federal,

State and private laboratories.

12--To consolidate and coordinate the many separate Government

bureaus now engaged in independent health work.

13--To effect economies in the administration of these bureaus.

14--To publish and distribute, throughout the country,

bulletins in relation to human health.

15--To apply our existing knowledge of hygiene to our living

conditions.

16--To reduce the death-rate.

In 1912 there will meet in Washington, on the invitation of the

President and Congress of the United States, the International Congress

of Hygiene and Demography. This Congress meets triennially in the

capitals of the world, and brings together the leaders in health

conservation who are officially delegated by the governments of all

civilized countries. We have many things to show them of which we can be

justly proud. Our Federal, State, municipal and other official health

organizations, however, leave much to be desired: and it behooves us, in

the few months still at our disposal, to prepare to show the visiting

nations our methods and successes. We need many other things, but due

recognition and coordination of our Federal health mechanism is the

first step which, if we have taken it before the meeting of this

International Congress, will best enable us to profit by the experience

of the world's experts there assembled.

Nature has been prodigal in her gifts to our Nation. In no respect has

she been kinder than in opportunities for health and efficiency. Her

very prodigality has rendered us careless and extravagant. It is high

time that Americans do as well for themselves in health protection at

home as they have done for themselves and others in Cuba, the Canal

Zone, Porto Rico, and the Philippines (applause). This demands the

creation and maintenance of official organizations to amplify, extend,

and ultimately replace the work of our voluntary organizations whose

lack of authority prevents their complete success, and whose continuance

is an admission of popular inertia and official incompetence. (Applause)

* * * * *

[During the foregoing, Governor Eberhart withdrew, and professor Condra

took the chair.]

Professor CONDRA--Ladies and Gentlemen: In the temporary absence of

Governor Eberhart I have the pleasure of introducing Mr Wallace D.

Simmons, of Saint Louis, who will address you on "Our Resources as the

Basis for Business." (Applause)

* * * * *

Mr SIMMONS--Mr Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: The President of the

United States in opening this Congress called upon the speakers to make

definite practical suggestions. The ex-President of the United States

the next day emphasized the need of further enlightenment of the people

regarding Conservation. It has frequently been my privilege to cooperate

with both of them, and I will endeavor to do so now by suggesting a

definite plan for spreading enlightenment in a practical manner.

We of this generation have developed a distinctly new type in our

American citizenship, one which has no counterpart in the history of any

other people, one which has become a most potent and influential factor

in our daily affairs: our modern high-class commercial traveler. In any

campaign of education, such as I am going to suggest, you can have no

more efficient allies than the 600,000 commercial travelers covering

this country--not the old-time drummers of questionable methods, but the

gentlemen of high character who have won the confidence, the respect and

friendship of the merchants and the people generally in every part of

this country; and I may add, as a requisite to their success that they

are resourceful.

To this development I attribute my having the honor of addressing you

today regarding our resources as the basis of our business, because the

organization of which I am president employs probably the largest corps

of such representatives in the country, and has through them the best

system of keeping accurately informed regarding all matters that affect

business.

From conclusions based largely upon the observations of the commercial

travelers of this country, I will endeavor to outline to you what I

believe to be the relationship between our business interests and the

question of natural resources; and I believe this phase of the question

is most vitally important to the people in whose interest you have

gathered here from every State in the Union. The primary reason for that

belief--and the one on which all others hinge--is that we are a Nation

in trade; a whole people engaged in business. Eighty-odd percent of our

people are directly or indirectly dependent for their living on business

conditions. The business interest therefore is the greatest interest,

collectively, in the country.

Anything which directly affects the living of the majority of our people

is not only worthy of our most earnest attention, but should be

approached with due consideration. We should be especially cautious

about experimenting with legislation that may interfere with the natural

laws of trade. When this is more generally recognized, and the people

begin to understand that their individual daily incomes are at stake,

they will put a stop to using the business interests of the country as a

football for politics.

Not only does there appear to me to be a direct relation between our

natural resources and our business, but as I view it our resources are

the foundation of our business, or as Mr Hill so aptly put it yesterday,

they constitute the capital on which our business is done.

In business we endeavor, by industrious and intelligent use of our

capital, to produce as the fruit of our efforts an annual return without

impairing the capital--without touching the principle or jeopardizing it

in any manner. In private enterprises, the man who assumes the headship

of a business organization in which the funds of others are invested as

capital, and who then makes a show of prosperity by drawing on that

capital to pay what he represents as dividends, is charged with running

a "get-rich quick" scheme, and in most States is, by law, held

personally liable. I commend to your consideration the consistency of

applying that principle where there is involved the capital of all the

people--the Nation's resources. (Applause)

If we are a people in trade and mean to continue to be, and if our

resources are our capital, can there be any doubt about the wisdom of

handling that capital according to the rules of good business? Can there

be any doubt where we as a Nation will land if we make annual inroads

upon that capital; if we, in the management of the people's business,

follow methods which in private affairs bring those responsible before

the bar of justice?

We as a Nation take just pride in our business successes; we attribute

them to the brains we put into our work, to the thoroughness with which

we study what we do and what others have done that we may profit by

experience. Is it not well for us thoughtfully to inquire whether the

histories of any other nations record the handling of their resources on

the "get-rich quick" plan, that we may see what has been the outcome?

History is full of such instances; many of them have been pointed out

by eminent advocates of this movement. I will therefore not attempt

anything but passing reference to some of them. Volumes could be written

from evidences found in the Valley of the Euphrates and of the Tigris,

where stood the great Kingdom of Babylonia, the wonder of the ancient

world; in the ruins of Palmyra and Palestine; in the Barbary States,

once famed as the granary of Rome but now a howling wilderness, because

the Mohammedans who conquered it neglected its natural resources; in the

ruins of the Cities of the Sahara, whose crumbling courts bring to mind

the words of Omar Khayyam--

They say the lion and the leopard keep

The courts where Jamshyd gloried and drank deep.

If we look to history for the other side of the picture--for instances

where business prosperity has gone on without interruption as long as

natural resources have been conserved and intelligently maintained--we

find them so well defined as to lead to but one conclusion. This is

illustrated in Germany where they have maintained the fertility of their

soil for centuries. It produces more per acre today than it did many

generations ago. Their great forest estates have remained intact; they

have cut a crop of timber from them regularly every year, producing an

annual income, but the capital--the forest estate--is greater and more

valuable today than it was before our country was discovered. Fires have

not destroyed their forests. They have long since learned the wisdom of

applying, "an ounce of prevention," and fortunately have no

"pork-barrel" to stand in the way. (Applause)

And we find in our own history many instances where great business

enterprises have sprung promptly from efforts to intelligently develop

the resources around us. The State of Illinois was passed over by the

first settlers as a land of no opportunities. It is today, in

productiveness and volume of business, one of the greatest States in the

Union. In the States of Utah and Colorado vast areas formerly looked

upon as barren and useless wastes, have been, by the intelligent

handling of natural resources, made to produce annually wonderful crops

of fruit and vegetables, the traffic in which has become a great

commercial industry. The development of the Southwest, dependent very

largely on one resource--the fertility of its soil--has called into

being such lusty young giants as Wichita, Oklahoma City, Dallas, and

other cities of that type. In the vicinity of Birmingham, a section

which before the War was occupied mainly by cotton plantations--wherein

there was nothing that could be properly called business--where

generations came and passed to the Great Beyond and never saw the smoke

of a factory or heard the hum of a busy mart of trade, today, with but

one generation intervening, we find a live and prosperous modern city,

the heart of a great industrial region. The change has come from

developing three great natural resources, which up to the close of the

War had been allowed to lie idle and unproductive--the forests, the coal

and the iron.

Here again we find an example of the business dependence of natural

resources one upon the other. The timber from the forests was needed for

the mining of the coal, and the coal was needed in the manufactures from

the iron ore; and again the forests in the development of means of

transportation to the markets of the world.

So there is ample evidence that business activity follows promptly upon

the intelligent development of natural resources, and decay with equal

certainty follows the neglect or wasteful use of the capital which

nature tenders us, and for the intelligent use of which she holds us

strictly accountable.

I have frequently been asked by those who know our system of getting

reliable information, "How do people over the country feel in regard to

Conservation; are they in favor of it in all its aspects, or do they

seem to be interested only in certain features?"

As that is a question that has direct bearing on the business of the

country, we naturally had made careful inquiry regarding it from Maine

to California, and we had learned that the majority of the people do not

understand enough about it to hold any real opinion. They have no

adequate idea what Conservation means as applied, for instance, by this

organization to our natural resources. In spite of exhaustive reports

issued by the Government, in spite of scholarly and illuminative

articles on the subject, the people generally do not yet understand the

real object of Conservation. A busy people in trade do not have time to

read Government reports or long speeches on any subject, and of course

no one can do justice to even one element of this great subject in a

short article. The net result is therefore that there is no general

understanding of even the A B C of Conservation such as should be given

to the people, such as they would be glad to have, and such as they must

have before there is warrant for feeling that the foundation stones of

Conservation are so firmly grounded that no transitory wave of agitation

on unimportant details can be successfully used to dislodge them.

The majority have not yet grasped the idea that one of the prime objects

of this Conservation movement is to preserve the fertility and

productiveness of the soil, on which we all depend for our food supply.

They are not aware that already in many parts of this country, where

formerly any man who rented farm lands was entirely free to use them

with indifference to their future, he is now required by the owners to

enter into a written contract which provides just how the land is to be

cultivated--how the crops are to be rotated and fertilizers used. The

owners of these lands today require their tenants to practice

Conservation. (Applause)

The people do not generally understand that when a territory which has

been used as a range for cattle is by proclamation withdrawn, as we

express it, that does not mean it is no longer to be used for pasturage.

Conservation does not aim to suspend use--its object is to perpetuate

usefulness in full measure this year, and every year to come. (Applause)

A farmer who owns a pasture--large or small--and rents it for stock

grazing, takes due care to cover in his agreement the number of head and

the length of time they are to be kept on his land. He makes sure that

his pasture is not to be so abused in any one season as to ruin it for

the future. He cares for his own land as it is the province of the

Forest Service to care for the public land entrusted to their

supervision. He practices Conservation because he cannot afford to do

otherwise.

It is not widely known that instead of wishing to keep settlers out of

the National Forests, inducements are given to get people to settle

within their boundaries; homesteaders are free to pasture their domestic

stock within the reservation and to cut from the forests the timber they

require for building houses, barns and fences. It is not generally

understood that making a forest reservation does not mean that no more

timber is to be cut there for market; on the contrary, its prime object

is to insure continued cutting and selling of it for all time. It is not

widely known that the revenue from timber cutting on the public forest

lands amounts already to a million dollars a year, and the annual

revenue from the pastures puts another million into the public

treasury--and that this is only a beginning; or that meanwhile this kind

of revenue-making regulation also affects the regularity of water supply

through our rivers and streams--a most vital question as has been shown

by many able exponents of Conservation.

When this Nation of business people understands that Conservation is

simply another term for business management of the people's capital, the

pressure of public opinion will be so strong behind this movement as to

brook no interference or delay in the passage and enforcement of the

laws needed to begin at once a business administration.

How to spread more widely a correct understanding of such facts is today

a most important problem. How shall we reach the people who have not yet

been reached, and who in all probability will not be reached by anything

published in the usual way?

I have a suggestion to make which I ask you Delegates to take to the

Governors who appointed you to attend this Congress; that is, that each

Governor summon to his Capitol for consultation, say six of the leading

business men of the State, selecting those who in their own business

have, by successful use of modern advertising, demonstrated that they

have learned from experience how to reach the individual and tell him

something they want him to know. Knowing how to do that is just as much

a matter of education and experience as are the methods of the Forester

or of the politician who is a "past master" at the game. Give the people

of your State the benefit of this experience. It can be had for the

asking. The business men can be depended on to help whenever called

upon. They will be particularly ready in this matter which, in

proportion as it is successful, will make for good trade and stable

business conditions; and the Conservation of our natural resources

stands for more stable business conditions year after year, in that it

tends to reduce the chances of losing our new wealth in crops just when

it seems to be practically sure.

Ask such a group of successful advertisers to formulate a scheme of

reaching the public generally with the kind of information they want and

should have about Conservation. Enlist the cooperation of the army of

commercial travelers within the State--there are no more loyal American

citizens anywhere, none who can do more in such a campaign, none who

will more gladly lend a hand when once they are advised along proper

lines, and know how great a factor the Conservation of our natural

resources can be in the upbuilding of business and, through it, the

general prosperity of our people.

Ask this business council to formulate ways of making known not only the

facts about forests and water supply, and the importance of these facts

to every individual man, woman and child in the Nation, but why we in

the United States average 13-1/2 bushels of wheat per acre, instead of

23-1/2 bushels, as they do in Germany, and 30-9/10 bushels in Great

Britain; how this is making homestead lands scarce, and prices high,

because we only get half the amount of crops we should get from the land

we have under cultivation. When we find our production less to the acre

each succeeding year and more mouths to feed, it is time everybody knew

why.

Tell them in the simplest and most direct manner possible what is meant

by the "pork barrel" in politics--how it is being used to retard the

proper development of our natural resources, and why therefore it stands

in the way of the Nation's progress. Let them know why we all have

reason to thank God that we have in the White House a President who does

not let politics silence his tongue on that subject or swerve him from

his determination to stop this waste of the Nation's funds. (Applause)

Write up a short story of what Reclamation has done and can do in

relieving the situation by opening up to us millions of acres of land

which can and will add greatly to our food and meat supply; tell them

what has already been accomplished and the progress that is still being

made by reclamation work, to the great benefit of the people. Explain in

a simple manner that hand in hand with the profitable development of our

natural resources must go the development of our great waterways and

railroads--that there can be no general prosperity without railroad

prosperity; that our railroads and waterways are the connecting links

which make our natural resources available, and that the practical value

of our natural resources depends largely on the efficiency of our

transportation service. (Applause)

Point out to them the lessons which we should get from cases of

individual effort along the lines of modern methods in farming; how, for

instance, Mr Claude Hollingsworth, near Colfax, Washington, raised this

year 45 bushels of wheat to the acre, averaging 62 pounds to the bushel,

and of barley 72-1/3 bushels to the acre, when his neighbors, with the

same conditions of soil, climate, and rainfall, averaged only half as

much; or in South Carolina, where Mr E. McI. Williamson has, by the

proper application of fertilizers, modern methods, and little additional

expense, increased his production of corn from 15 bushels per acre to an

average of nearly 60 bushels, and of cotton from less than half a bale

to an average of a bale per acre. Such examples are most convincing, and

will do much to arouse interest in the practical value of Conservation.

The conservation of the National health deserves to be emphasized even

when we have under consideration this general subject from purely a

business standpoint. When we consider that tuberculosis alone costs the

people of the State of New York over $200,000,000 per year, and that it

is a preventable disease, and that that $200,000,000 might be used as

capital to give to millions of people profitable and wholesome

occupation, the relation of the health movement to the business

interests of the country is self-evident.

Of course, this suggestion is based upon entire confidence in the

cooperation of the daily press--I have no doubt about that whatever. The

newspapers and magazines are not only most potent factors in spreading

enlightenment, but they can always be depended on to take enthusiastic

hold of any movement that is honestly and disinterestedly for the

general good. (Applause)

This whole subject of Conservation is fundamentally a business

proposition--a question of managing the people's business with the same

care and foresight that we put into private business--a question of

using the Nation's capital in a way that will produce a regular, steady

and proper income year after year, and at the same time so safeguard the

principal that the people of these United States may go on in business

indefinitely.

History tells of many peoples who have spent their capital and

disappeared from the face of the earth. Let us so organize this Nation's

business that it may go on down the centuries as history's exception to

the general rule of rise and fall (applause). As we point with pride,

honor and gratitude to the signers of our Declaration of Independence

and the makers of our Constitution, so may the coming generations of

Americans, having in mind the fates of other peoples, look back with

gratitude to us and have occasion to exclaim "See what would also have

been our lot had it not been for the foresight and business judgment of

our ancestors of the Twentieth Century--worthy successors of the great

men who founded this Government of the people by the people and for the

people, not only for their own time, but for all time." (Applause)

* * * * *

President BAKER--Ladies and Gentlemen: Nothing is more important to

Conservation than education; and I have the honor now to introduce the

Commissioner of Education, Dr Elmer Ellsworth Brown, who will address

you on "Education and Conservation."

* * * * *

Commissioner BROWN--Mr President, Ladies, and Gentlemen: Every uplift

and reform comes back to education. It is uplift carried to the sticking

point. It is reform continually going on. In speaking of the educational

aspect of Conservation, I am not concerned with anything merely

incidental or subordinate, but have to do with a matter as large and

vital as any upon which the success of the Conservation movement

depends.

It must be admitted on the other hand that education has much to get

from the Conservation movement as well as much to give. The schools are

learners as well as teachers. To support and further Conservation they

will need to learn Conservation facts and doctrines. This Congress and

American education are aiming at the same thing in the end--the

betterment of American life. What shall it profit to conserve everything

else on earth if we fail to conserve the spirit and fiber of our

citizens, young and old? That is a view in which Conservationists and

educators are fully agreed.

Now, what is our educational establishment, as it stands over against

the body of our material resources? It is a group of State school

systems, having in the aggregate a certain National character. We cannot

insist too strongly that education is primarily a concern of the States.

This group of State school systems represents a combination of public

and private agencies, for our State institutions are supplemented by

many institutions privately supported and controlled. It represents an

extraordinary unity as between elementary education and the higher

education, as between the democracy of the lower schools and the science

of the universities. It represents, moreover, in all of its grades, an

everlasting devotion to intellectual and moral values, as having to do

with enlightened citizenship. This is the educational establishment that

faces the needs and aspirations with which the Conservation Congress is

concerned. There are three or four ways in which I should like to speak

of the great work of that establishment as related to your own great

work:

1. In the first place, there is the fact that our scholastic education

is facing about and turning its attention toward industry and industrial

life. This is a new movement in which all States and sections are taking

part. It is a change which is attended with the gravest difficulty. No

one who is not familiar with the actual administration of schools and

colleges can guess how hard a thing it is to introduce a new practice of

teaching and make it successful at the hands of many teachers in widely

different communities. Yet our educational leaders have addressed

themselves to this task with courage and enthusiasm. In 25 States

provision is now made for teaching agriculture in public schools. Such

provision takes the form of agricultural high schools in Alabama,

Massachusetts, Minnesota and Virginia, and in several other widely

scattered States. In the best of these schools, there is arising a new

interest in all that relates to the soil and the life on the farm. It is

no uncommon thing to have class work interrupted by visits from

neighboring farmers, who consult the expert teachers regarding drainage

and fertilizers and the care of their horses and cows. The boys try out

at school the seed corn they are to plant on the home farm, and the

girls learn at school to raise poultry and vegetables and make from them

appetizing dishes for home consumption. Large provision has been made

for consolidated rural schools, and in Minnesota lands are added for

instruction in the practice of farming. Oklahoma requires the teaching

of agriculture in all public schools, with the cooperation of the normal

schools and the agricultural college. This new instruction is spreading

in unexpected ways. Columbia University, in the heart of New York City,

has begun to offer courses in agriculture, taking up this work where it

left it off early in the nineteenth century. And an agricultural

conference has been held at Bryn Mawr College. After that what more is

there to be said! (Applause)

But there is still a good deal more. Much might be said about the new

trade schools in the cities, and the new instruction in household arts

for girls; but I pass these matters by and go back to the farm. What is

especially interesting is the freedom with which new modes of teaching

have been adopted. Corn contests, potato trains, demonstration

farms--our old manuals of teaching knew nothing of these things. Then

there is all manner of summer schools, short winter courses, farmers'

institutes, and an assortment of other teaching devices. The University

of Idaho is employing three field men, a horticulturist, a dairyman, and

an irrigation and potato specialist, and is sending regular schools of

agriculture about the State on wheels. In Virginia and three or four

other States supervisors of rural schools have been appointed. They are

making a close study of the resources, industries, and social needs of

typical sections of their States, and are lending new life to the effort

to make the schools more directly serviceable.

One of the earlier developments of this movement, and one that comes

into peculiarly close relations with the Conservation campaign, is the

setting apart of a day in each year for planting trees. Nebraska is

looked upon as the original center of this movement. A recent report

shows the planting of 20,000 trees in a single year in Minnesota, in

connection with the Arbor Day celebration in this State (applause). The

observance has received a fresh impetus in more than twenty of the

States from the publication by the State education offices of attractive

manuals offering suggestions regarding the celebration.

The leaders of the new movement in our schools have called for a

redirection of rural education. Such a redirection is actually taking

place. So much has been begun that it would be easy to believe that the

work is done. There are many who suppose that this new education is

already in the saddle and is moving triumphantly forward. But that is a

mistake. Great changes in education are not brought about so easily.

There is a long campaign and a hard campaign before us if the desired

ends are to be attained. State superintendents of public instruction,

those who are training teachers in colleges and normal schools, and all

who are engaged in this work in supervisory and teaching positions, will

need for a long time to come the moral backing and the material support

which this influential body can command. That is what they should have

without reserve and without stint. (Applause)

The lack of well-prepared teachers of these subjects is one of the most

serious difficulties the new movement has encountered. A recent report

shows about seventy State normal schools offering regular instruction in

agriculture. The Nelson Amendment to the Agricultural Appropriation Act

of 1907 provided Federal funds for the training of teachers in the

land-grant colleges. At least thirty of these colleges are now offering

such instruction. But this work, too, is only begun.

2. And this suggests the second thing that I wish to say. The new

movement is making a new demand for men in the business of

teaching--strong men, technically trained for their work. If education

is to help Conservation, the teaching profession must be enabled to

compete with the industries in attracting and holding such men. We are

considering both ends of our educational system, the scientific end in

the universities and the popular end in the schools. A man who has

enough knowledge and skill to train others for an industrial occupation

has enough to give him a place in the industry itself. And the industry

pays a great deal better than the teaching. It is not necessary that the

income of teachers and that of industrial leaders should be equalized.

Many men will continue to teach because they prefer to teach. But when

the disparity becomes too great, many good teachers, in fairness to

themselves and to their families, must give up the struggle and go over

into the more lucrative employments. This is what has been going on in

recent years. With a rapidly growing population and an increasing body

of teachers, we have fewer men engaged in teaching than we had five

years ago. We need opportunities in the teaching profession that will

attract strong men to face the work before us (applause). I have the

highest regard for the work of our women teachers; but both men and

women are needed to give us a well balanced public education, and I

welcome the alliance of the schools with the Conservation movement,

because of the new demand it makes for competent men in the schools.

Let me point out some of the places in our scholastic organization where

strong men are needed, for Conservation purposes as well as for

educational purposes. It is generally understood that men of the largest

caliber are in demand as presidents of technical colleges and

universities. It should be equally obvious that such men are needed as

State superintendents of public instruction. We have such men, and have

had many such in the office of State superintendent--but in many of the

States that office cannot attract men as do our college presidencies,

because of the short term of service and other limitations with which it

is hedged about. We need broad men and strong men as instructors in the

technical departments of our higher institutions. Those who deal with

our National resources industriously can know but little of the personal

strain and sacrifice with which other men have stuck to their task of

dealing with these same resources educationally. In our secondary and

elementary education there is not only need of specially trained men as

teachers, but there is need in particular of specially trained

supervisors.

I was in Vermont not many days ago, and there I saw one result of a new

law, which provides for the employment of union district superintendents

of schools, at a respectable minimum salary. The State superintendent

had called together these local superintendents in their annual

conference. There were nearly forty of them, where three years before

there was not one. Rather young men they were for the most part, though

well-seasoned in the responsibilities of teaching. College graduates,

alert and ambitious, they gave themselves over to the business which had

brought them together, with a heartiness that was vastly encouraging.

Other States have made provisions for a similar staff of supervisory

officers. New York is one of the latest to take such action. The great

States of the West, in which the county is a common unit of school

supervision, need in their counties traveling supervisors of special

subjects, particularly those relating to the practical business of life

on the farm. Such supervisors can become veritable evangelists, bringers

of good news concerning the things which make our National resources

interesting and full of hope.

3. I have spoken of the new movement toward industrial education in our

several States. I have tried to show that this movement is making only

gradual headway against great difficulties, but that it can become a

strong reinforcement of Conservation and of other public interests _if

given a fair chance_. Now, in the third place it should be said that the

Federal Government is concerned with giving it a fair chance. We have no

National system of school administration. We do not want such a system.

No one seriously proposes to relieve the States of their powers and

responsibilities in this matter. But how can the Nation be indifferent

to the very stuff out of which it is made? While we have no National

system of schools, we have and we are bound to have a National program

of education.

It is no new thing that I am proposing. I would simply propose that the

program blocked out and entered upon many years ago should be carried

out and made as useful as possible. This National program is a simple

one. In the earlier days it consisted in the granting of lands for

educational purposes. Within the past half-century two additions to this

earlier plan have been made. The first of these was the establishment

of a central office of information, the Federal Bureau of Education; the

second was the annual appropriation of Federal funds for institutions

serving a special and urgent National need--the acts for the further

support of the land-grant colleges.

Stated now in other words, our whole American scheme of public

educational management consists of these four parts: First, the

independent school and university systems of the several States, aided

by grants of public lands and supplemented by privately managed

institutions; second, the free cooperation of the States in educational

matters of common interest; third, a Federal education office, aiding

the States by its information service and furthering their cooperation;

and finally, the distribution of Federal funds, under the supervision of

the Bureau of Education.

Let me say a few words concerning that part of this plan with which I

have personally the most to do. It is the business of the Federal Bureau

to survey the whole field of American education, and make the best

things contagious throughout that field. In such a subject as industrial

education, it is to study our present needs in the large, and to set

before our people the best examples of the successful meeting of such

needs in this and in foreign lands. It is to promote unity of effort, by

enabling every part of the country to profit at once by whatever has

been well done in any other part of the world. As regards such a subject

as the Conservation of our National resources, it is to take the broad

view which concerns education in all the States, and to further the

common treatment of that subject as related to the geography, the

history, and the industries of the American people. Such work as this it

is now doing in a preliminary and fragmentary way; but it needs more

men--expert and informing men--to make of its educational contagion the

really large and transforming thing that these times demand. Give us the

men, and we will give the help. When the Nation has made its program, it

cannot afford to carry it out on less than a National scale. (Applause)

I have said that our National program already involves a measure of

direct Federal aid to education in the States. There is every reason why

such aid should be reserved as a last resort. But as a last resort, it

has its place in our program. It is doubtful whether the industrial

education which the Nation now requires can be adequately carried out

without an increase of such Federal participation. But the point to be

especially emphasized is this: Any such extension of Federal aid should

be based on an accurate knowledge of the needs, and should be made in

such ways as will strengthen and not weaken the educational systems of

the States. For these reasons, a general investigation of the subject of

industrial education in all sections of the country is one of the next

things that should be undertaken by the Education Bureau. Such an

inquiry has already been recommended from the office of the Secretary of

the Interior. It has been urgently requested by the National Society for

the Promotion of Industrial Education. Our neighbors of the Dominion of

Canada already have a strong commission engaged in a similar inquiry. I

earnestly hope that this Congress will call upon the Congress of the

United States to institute such an inquiry at the earliest practicable

date, and provide for carrying it on in a manner commensurate with the

importance of the subject.

When I speak of our National program in education, it is with warmth and

conviction. No nation can come to its greatest, industrially and

politically, save as it comes to its greatest in education. We have in

our American form of governmental relations the basis for the noblest

educational structure that any nation has ever erected. In full loyalty

to the true relations of State and Nation, we have only to go forward

doing generously the things which may rightly be done, in order to have

an infinitely varied yet gloriously united educational organization, in

which our democracy, our science, and our nationality shall all of them

come to their best.

4. Fourthly and finally, what kind of education is it that the new needs

call for? I cannot leave the subject without saying a few words on that

theme.

Our American schools and colleges have stood in the past for liberal

culture. They have taken pride in doing so and they have believed that

by so doing they have been serving the ends of democratic citizenship.

American education from the beginning has looked the almighty dollar

squarely in the face and passed on in serene devotion to spiritual ends.

Is all of this to be changed with the new interest in industrial life?

Is the technical, in other words, to take place of the liberal? I do not

believe it. In fact, no greater calamity could befall our industrial

interests. But we are undoubtedly changing our conception of what is

liberal and what is technical. We may describe a liberally educated man

as one who has learned so thoroughly how the whole world hangs together

that he constantly sees his own interests only as related to general and

permanent human interests (applause). A technical education, on the

other hand, enables a man to do that which most men cannot do, but which

has some useful relation to those general human interests. If this is a

fair statement, there is no field in which a liberal education is more

to be desired than that of our material resources and our industries;

for this is the field on which the whole game and drama of human life is

to be played, though there is no other in which the temptation to

illiberal, narrow, and selfish views is so great. To make the material

basis of human society itself a subject of liberal education is one of

the greatest things that scholastic enterprise can possibly accomplish.

The next step is to join the training for technical pursuits directly to

our liberal culture thus broadly conceived, so that every citizen shall

add some valuable skill to his more general attainments, and every

special skill shall grow directly out of his general knowledge.

This, I believe, will be the great aim of American education

everywhere. It is a high patriotic service to further such education.

Even in the elementary schools, let our pupils learn that their private

interests are to be advanced only in accord with more general interests,

and that they are to make their success in life by doing some one thing

well for which the world at large has need. We have been, according to

our critics, a Nation whose resources were greater and more impressive

than our civilization. With such an education as this, we shall be a

Nation whose civilization shall overtop all of the natural goods that

may ever be discovered or conserved (applause). Such an education,

moreover, could do much to overcome some of the chief obstacles which

the Conservation movement now encounters; for it should give us a people

who, from engineers and managers to farmers and miners, should not only

be masters of their own trades but should pursue them with some positive

regard for the public good (applause). Our education is not big enough

and virile enough until it can deal with such great National issues as

this. I am confident that it will come up to that high measure of power

and efficiency, and that already it has begun to carry those larger

responsibilities. (Applause)

* * * * *

President BAKER--Ladies and Gentlemen: Can there be higher patriotism

than in the efforts of this Congress to protect the rights of all?

Conservation is true patriotism; and Mrs Matthew T. Scott,

President-General of the National Society of Daughters of the American

Revolution, will now address you on this subject. (Applause, the entire

audience rising)

* * * * *

Mrs SCOTT--Mr President, Ladies and Gentlemen: In behalf of the National

Society of Daughters of the American Revolution, I wish to make my

grateful acknowledgments to the Executive Committee (through its

President, Honorable Bernard N. Baker) for its courtesy in giving to Mrs

Amos G. Draper, the able Chairman of our D. A. R. Conservation Committee

who has so splendidly inaugurated and developed this work, and to

myself, the privilege and honor of taking part in these splendid

exercises. In its last analysis the generic term "Conservation"--in its

widest scope, and broadest sense--may be said to be the keynote and

touchstone of our great D. A. R. organization. The finest brains and

blood and nerve force of the land have been absorbed and found noble

expression in various lines of work of the D. A. R. While the Daughters

have turned their sympathetic attention to various material branches of

Conservation work, we have not neglected the higher intellectual,

ethical, and moral Conservation interests; we aim to help preserve the

glorious heritage that has fallen to us of self-government, and hand

down the birthright undiminished to those who come after us that the

priceless boon of "government of the people by the people and for the

people" perish not from the earth. (Applause)

It has been borne in upon me of late that there are two Conservation

interests whose importance we have not fully recognized, and they are

the conservation of true womanliness, and the conservation of the

supremacy of the Anglo-Saxon race on this continent. As to the former,

the President of the United States in a recent address at Washington

before the annual Congress of the D. A. R., said that woman's place and

sphere are on too high a plane to be even discussed. It is surely an

inspiration to have the privilege before this splendid assemblage of

representing the great patriotic movement, which under the banner of the

D. A. R., marches steadily forward, with ever increasing numbers,

enthusiasm, prestige, and practical power.

The Daughters of the American Revolution in distinctive and especial

ways have lent their organized strength to various good causes, which

may all be practically considered as Conservation interests: among other

objects, to social uplift, to patriotic education in its widest scope,

to placing bounds to the abuse of child labor, to playgrounds, to

juvenile courts, to improvement of hygienic conditions in our great

cities, to preservation of historic spots and records, to the safe and

sane celebration of July Fourth; and to cooperation with the S. A. R. in

their noble work for immigrants landing upon our shores and subsequently

for these foreigners and their children in the effort to Americanize

them and to inoculate them with ideals and principles known in this

twentieth century as Americanism.

Much has been done also among the mountain whites of the South. Every

mountaineer, child or adult, that in our work we help to educate toward

intelligent citizenship--and many of these mountaineers are of

Revolutionary ancestry--is a barrier raised against the anarchistic

tendencies and the unrest of our great cities; is a guarantee for the

supremacy of the Caucasian race in America. Read, if you can secure it,

Mr Thomas Nelson Page's plea for the education of the Southern Mountain

whites in his magnificent address delivered at Washington before the

last Continental Congress! We are also preserving, all over this broad

land, landmarks of history--sacred relics of a vanished age--which are

object-lessons for our own youth and for the strangers who crowd our

shores. Every monument we rear, every tablet we place, every statue we

erect, every old fort or bastian, every Revolutionary relic or

Revolutionary soldier's grave we honor, is a tribute to those to whom we

owe the imperishable gifts of liberty, of independence, of the right to

worship God in our own way. Every fountain or stone recording the trail

of the pioneer, the priest, the trader, the soldier, or the devotion of

the Revolutionary heroine, is a breath of incense wafted back to the

immortals, an inspiration for "tangible immortality" for ourselves, and

those who come after us. (Applause)

The Conservation of our natural resources is a subject of intensely

practical importance to the D. A. R. Representing as we do the

motherhood of the Nation, we feel that it is for us to see that the

children of this and future generations are not robbed of their

God-given privileges. It is our high privilege and mission to see to it

that the future shall be the uncankered fruit of the past. The ideal

democracy solemnly dedicated by the Founders, we, as their Daughters,

declare shall not be forestalled. As women we cannot be silent and see

the high ends at which they aimed made futile by the growth of a

grovelling lust for material and commercial aggrandizement. This

headlong haste for enormous gain, the total disregard of the future for

the present moment, if not stopped will bring us to the condition of the

Old World where the fertility and habitability of past ages have been

destroyed forever. We feel that it is for us, who are not wholly

absorbed in business, to preserve ideals that are higher than

business--the outlook for the future, the common interests, and the

betterment of all classes. The wasteful scrambling and greedy clutching

at our natural treasures has made the present generation rich; but the

mothers of the future must be warned by us lest they find that our

boasted prosperity has been bought at the price of the suffering, of the

poverty, and class war of our descendants. There is no lack of patriotic

devotion in the country; but the mere thoughtlessness and inability or

unwillingness of the commercial class to drop the interests of the

moment long enough to realize how they are compromising the future--this

hot haste and heedlessness, it is for us with our larger outlook, to

restrain.

Women have already preserved a large National forest in the Pennsylvania

mountains; the women of Minnesota have to their credit the Minnesota

National forests; it was the women of California who saved the

immemorial groves of the Calaveras big trees. Our own work in behalf of

the preservation of the Appalachian watersheds, in behalf of the

preservation of historic sites, as well as the efforts being made by

various women's organizations to preserve the natural beauty of the

Palisades, of Niagara Falls, and of other precious scenic treasures of

the Nation, are all steps in the right direction, are all preparation

for the larger Conservation interests which the D. A. R. have begun

actively to champion. It should be a second nature to women, with the

spirit of motherhood and protecting care innate in them, to take an

effective stand in the spirit of true patriotism--against the spirit of

rank selfishness--the anti-social spirit of the man who declines to take

into account any other interests than his own. (Applause)

There is another great world interest that is peculiarly our own as

Daughters and descendants of the peace-loving patriots who took up arms

a century and a half ago. They were not professional soldiers, but plain

citizens hastily rallied together in often-wavering lines of defense of

home and country. All the world wondered when at Lexington and Concord,

on the village green and at the wooden bridge, the embattled farmers

stood across the line of march of the British regular army, and fired

"the shot heard round the world." It is the opening decade of the

twentieth century of the Christian era; it is time that brute force--the

recourse of primitive, barbaric man--cease to be the last arbitrament

between great nations calling themselves Christian and civilized, and

that the Conservation of peace be established by international

arbitration. (Applause)

Again, it is one of the glories of our great organization that we are

first, last, and all the time, considering the child. Today in all

civilized countries the child is leading the way. I am happy to be able

to say that through the instrumentality of our chapters in different

parts of the country, interest has been awakened in homeless and

dependent children; organizations have been formed for children of

foreign birth to teach them respect for the flag, and some things about

our form of government. Many chapters provide instructive lectures in

their own language for foreigners, who listen eagerly. Many chapters

offer prize medals for the best essays on historical subjects--American

history especially--and for memorizing our National songs. Nothing is

more important than our organized work for the "Children of the American

Revolution"--children of American birth and descent--unless it be our

work for the "Children of the Republic" in teaching to be American

citizens boys of foreign parentage who come to us with little idea of

the difference between liberty and license. For patriotism consists as

much in making good citizens as in saving the Nation from bad ones

(applause). Every boy of foreign birth or extraction that we can help to

transform into a thorough American through this magnificent branch of

our work, every lad of foreign birth or extraction that we can help

train to become a useful citizen and grow up into honorable manhood as a

credit to his adopted land is an added asset to the ethical wealth of

the country. Think for a moment what it means to help train these young

foreigners in the plastic period of their life in the patriotic

principles of their adopted country! A long stride has been taken in

their patriotic and civic education, when through the exertions of noble

women they have been given some idea of the great principles which are

the basis of our form of government.

Another branch of our Conservation work which is especially near my

heart, and which I think must be near to the heart of every mother in

this broad land, is that in connection with the splendid crusade now

being carried on against the evil of child labor. We have attempted, in

dealing with this as with every other problem, first to obtain a wide

and sure knowledge of the facts, and secondly to avoid everything

savoring of the spirit of fanaticism in concentrating our energies on

some great constructive policy. The committee on child labor, under the

leadership of its noble chairman--the late Mrs J. Ellen Foster, whose

life was dedicated to the needs of humanity--has made herculean efforts

to bring this matter properly before the attention not only of the D. A.

R. but of all the women of our land who are capable of responding to the

pathetic appeal of suffering and stunted childhood, that we may wipe

away this inexcusable stain on our National honor and this irreparable

blight on that product which is more valuable than all the combined

harvests of this fertile continent--the splendid American crop of human

souls. (Applause)

If in a serener atmosphere than that of the politics of the hour, we as

patriotic women can meet and help to solve these and other equally

important problems in the eternally feminine way that has always given

us power over men--if we would indeed, in the words of the old

Athenians, help to transmit our fatherland not only undiminished but

better and greater than it was transmitted to us, and if we are indeed

unwilling to transmit to posterity mere material possessions unillumined

by divine ideals; if we can but rise to the height and might of a pure,

disinterested, passionless consecration to the principles which time has

proved to be the soul of the purpose of the Fathers of the Republic, and

on that high level, above the distracting personalities and passing

incidents and accidents of the hour, "live and move and have our being"

as a National Society, then we shall best establish and preserve the

useful influence and leadership in the country to which we loyally

aspire. Our interest and work for these great Conservation interests we

cannot too often reiterate for our own encouragement and inspiration and

for the enlightenment of the public.

As I said before, in the light of recent incidents and experiences, it

has been borne in upon me that there are two great Conservation

interests we have not yet sufficiently touched. With all the advance in

learning, all the discoveries of science, all the enlightenment and

uplifting of religion, all the refining of manners, all the acquisitions

of men through invention and additions to the facilities for work and

comfort of living, all the improvements of institutions providing for

the farther and farther spread of well-being among the children of men,

still, in the great underlying physical principles of existence, in the

"main travelled roads" of humanity from birth to death, there is and can

be no essential change. Nevertheless, there are an infinite number of

variations and gradations in the product of these eternal operations of

nature. Man's battle with nature--for human progress is a constant

struggle against natural conditions, a continual re-making of the

planet--has been ever accompanied, step by step, by the battle within

himself against the contradictions in his inescapable heredity. It is

the degree of success in this struggle for the triumph of the spiritual

and the intellectual that marks the differences in racial types. Here

then are the grand elements of the problem, the condition as well as

theory confronting every well-wisher to humanity, every lover of her

kind and her country, especially among women. For it is woman who is

the divinity of the spring whence flows the stream of humanity--nay, she

is the source herself. To her keeping has been entrusted the sacred

font. In her hands rests the precious cup, the golden bowl of life.

Holier than the Holy Grail itself is this chalice glowing ever, with its

own share of the divine fire, its own vital spark from the altar of

Almighty power. Never has this office of cup-bearer to creation placed

greater responsibility upon woman than in this our own day, and this our

own country. Freely we have received, and generously must we respond;

and deeply must we realize what a charge to keep we have--nothing less

than the Conservation of the greatest experiment in enlightened

self-government the world ever saw. Is that sacred trust to be

jeopardized by untried, impracticable, uncalled for innovations upon the

institutions of Government sufficing for the Fathers of the Country, and

providing for its splendid development thus far? Shall we grasp at a

shadow in the stream, like the dog in the fable, and drop the substance

to sink away from us beyond recall? Is any _real_ interest of the women

of the land in danger? Is any _real_ interest of women inseparable from

the interests of the fathers, husbands, brothers, and sons of the women

of the land? Is there any interest of women to be compared in vital

importance to themselves, with the conservation of true womanliness?

I plead, as the representative of a great National organization of the

women of the land, for the Conservation of true womanliness, for the

exalting, for the lifting up in special honor, of the Holy Grail of

Womanhood. But not merely the cup whence flows the stream of human life,

must we guard and cherish; we must look to the ingredients which are

being cast into the cup. We must protect the fountain from pollution. We

must not so eagerly invite all the sons of Shem, Ham, and Japhet,

wherever they may have first seen the light, and under whatever

traditions and influences and ideals foreign and antagonistic to ours

they may have been reared, to trample the mud of millions of alien feet

into our spring. We must conserve the sources of our race in the

Anglo-Saxon line, Mother of Liberty and Self-government in the modern

world. I would rather our coming census showed a lesser population and a

greater homogeneity. Especially do I dread the clouding of the purity of

the cup with color and character acquired under tropical suns, in the

jungle, or in paradisian islands of the sea alternately basking in

heavenlike beauty and serenity and devastated by earthquake and tornado

and revolution. (Applause)

I come of the old Virginia stock (applause) which first passed over the

Blue Ridge and possessed the great Middle West, just in time to prevent

it from becoming Spanish or French or British. Some of the pioneers of

Washington's times have stayed on right there, in that eagle's nest of

pure Americans where Kentucky, Tennessee, and Virginia meet in the

mountains against which Cornwallis' previously invincible raiding

column--after devastating the Carolinas--dashed itself to pieces, wiped

out by volunteer mountaineers in that wonderful battle of Kings Mountain

which no general planned or even heard of until it was over. Personally,

I would be willing to reduce our population-boast by many millions, had

the remnant the unadulterated Americanism conserved to this day in these

mountaineers' descendants! We may be destined to see our cup of liberty,

which we have so generously proffered to the whole world, grow to the

proportion of a grand mixing-bowl of races; but if so, will it not at

least be wise to see that our own race dominate?

We, the mothers of this generation--ancestresses of future

generations--have a right to insist upon the conserving not only of

soil, forest, birds, minerals, fishes, waterways, in the interest of our

future home-makers, but also upon the conserving of the supremacy of the

Caucasian race in our land. This Conservation, second to none in

pressing importance, may and should be insured in the best interests of

all races concerned; and the sooner attention is turned upon it the

better. (Great applause)

* * * * *

[Pending the foregoing, Governor Eberhart resumed the Chair.]

Professor CONDRA--Mr Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: At the instance of

the President of the Congress, and inspired by the splendid address of

Mrs Matthew T. Scott, President-General of the Daughters of the American

Revolution and one of the most eminent of American women, I move that

the Secretary of the Congress be empowered to prepare a suitable

expression of the condolence of the Congress to be sent to the family of

the late Mrs J. Ellen Foster, a member of the Executive Committee of the

Congress and one of the most militant women of the country in behalf of

Conservation.

The motion was seconded by several delegates.

Governor EBERHART--Ladies and Gentlemen: You have all heard the motion.

As many as favor its adoption will please rise to their feet. [The

entire Congress arose.] The motion is carried unanimously, and the

Secretary will be instructed to forward the expression.

While the formal addresses of the women of the Nation to this

Conservation Congress are now concluded, there is a little presentation

which a lady of our State wishes to make; and in accordance with the

instructions of the President of the Congress, I am pleased to introduce

Mrs J. C. Howard, of Duluth. (Applause)

* * * * *

Mrs HOWARD--Your Excellency, and Ladies and Gentlemen: Mrs Scott asks me

to present this certificate which I hold in my hand, for her and for the

D. A. R., to a man whom we all delight to honor.

I used to live in Washington before I grew up and came to Minnesota,

where I hope to spend the rest of my life; and there in my time I met

many near-heroes and many heroes. I observed that modesty was always a

sure sign of the real heroes; and if you had witnessed my efforts with

Mr Gifford Pinchot to persuade him to come on the stage and stay there

until I could give him this card, you would have no more doubt than

before in which category he belongs (laughter and applause). Now,

Governor, please don't let him get away while my back is turned

(laughter), because I feel he really ought to have this certificate.

Ladies and Gentlemen, this certificate is a tribute by the D. A. R., in

the form of a diploma, as you see; it says, in part,

=He that planteth a tree is a servant of God. He provideth a kindness

for many generations, and faces that he hath not seen shall bless him.=

I have intense pride in presenting it to the man who is first in the

Conservation war, first in peace, and first in the hearts of all

tree-lovers.

[Mrs Howard here presented the certificate to Mr Pinchot amid great and

prolonged applause, with cries of "Pinchot!" "Speech!"]

Mr GIFFORD PINCHOT--Mr Chairman, Mrs Scott, and Mrs Howard: There are

two reasons, Ladies and Gentlemen, why I am profoundly moved, and

delighted to receive this certificate: One of them is--and it is not a

bit modified by the fact that you have so kindly, yesterday and today,

given me far more credit than I deserve--that I would rather have the

good opinion of the women who are interested in Conservation than that

of the men--by far (applause and laughter). The other is, that of all

the organizations that have been working for the Conservation movement,

for the preservation of the forests and for the extension of the same

idea to all our natural resources, there has been none more devoted and

more effective than the D. A. R. Besides, of all the women in the D. A.

R., no one has been more devoted or more effective than Mrs Howard's

mother, Mrs Draper (applause). And in this certificate I have joined

together in my mind the kindness of Mrs Scott and the organization which

she represents, the good-will of Mrs Draper which I very deeply prize,

and that of her daughter, Mrs Howard, who was kind enough to give it to

me; and I want to thank them all most heartily. (Great applause)

* * * * *

Governor EBERHART--When our friend Mr Pinchot comes here for the next

Conservation meeting, after having seen all the charming ladies who have

attended this Congress and worked in its interest, it is to be hoped

that there may be still another certificate which he may have in his

possession at that time (great applause). I am not saying this for the

purpose of announcing any competition on the part of the ladies, but

merely because Mr Pinchot himself suggested that he prizes this

certificate so highly. But he would, I am sure, prize the other one

still more if he got it (laughter).

Some time ago, when it became necessary to send a man of ability, honor,

and integrity out West to prosecute land frauds, President Roosevelt

looked quite a while before he could find the right one. The

instruction under which that man went was that he should prosecute every

guilty person, no matter what position in life he held, whether of high

or low standing; and the man he sent was eminently successful. After

successfully prosecuting those land frauds, he went to San Francisco and

continued in the same work with equally great credit and distinction; so

that in introducing him to you I am introducing the best-known, the

ablest and strongest, apostle of clean citizenship in the United States,

a man who stands for a square deal, and who believes in what is best and

highest and truest and cleanest and purest in American citizenship.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I have the honor and privilege of introducing to

you that conserver of clean citizenship, who will address you on the

subject of "Safeguarding the Property of the People," Honorable Francis

J. Heney, of California.

[Great and prolonged applause and cheers. Voices: "What's the matter

with Heney?" "He's all right!"]

* * * * *

Mr HENEY (after asking an attendant to remove the water pitcher)--Mr

Chairman, Ladies, and Gentlemen: As I never take water, I have requested

that it be moved over to another table before I commence. (Laughter)

The efficiency of a democracy must ultimately depend on the intelligence

of its voters. It was the recognition of that idea which caused the

Fathers of this Republic to advocate so strongly the establishment of a

public school system in this country. Any effort on the part of any

public servant to prevent the voters of this country from having full

knowledge of all its public affairs is, therefore, a species of treason,

and any failure on the part of any citizen to acquaint himself as fully

as possible with our National affairs is a failure to perform one of the

duties and obligations which are imposed upon every member of a

democracy. (Applause)

Public opinion, it is said, rules the Nation. It might better be said

(because it would be more accurate) that public opinion in a democracy

_should_ rule the Nation; and it might further be said that if we had a

real democracy, and a real representative government, public opinion

_would_ rule the Nation (applause). There are some evidences, however,

that public opinion in this country does not have a free chance to

operate. I need not mention many instances to convince you. Ninety

percent of the people of the United States were opposed to men being

permitted to make a profit by poisoning a people; they wanted a

pure-food law, and yet it was locked up on the high shelf in Congress

for sixteen years until Theodore Roosevelt, with the Big Stick, forced

it out (great applause). What public opinion failed to do the Big Stick

accomplished. (Renewed applause)

Now, my friends, public opinion should be intelligent; and that requires

accurate information. A friend of mine, riding on a street-car in the

city of Washington, at a time when the Ballinger-Pinchot investigation

was going on, saw two young men, beyond the voting age, reading the

morning newspaper. They had a paper apiece. He was standing close by

hanging on to a strap. He heard one of them say to the other, "They are

having a great fuss up there in Congress over this Ballinger-Pinchot

controversy, aren't they?" "Yes," said the other; "I see that Ballinger

has been found three million dollars short in his accounts" (laughter).

"Yes, I see that," said the first, "and that they found Pinchot has

stolen a _million acres_ of public land" (laughter). Whereupon both of

them turned to the sporting column to see whether Johnson or Jeffries

was predicted to win (laughter). They seemed to have a pretty accurate

knowledge, also, of which club was ahead in the baseball game.

Now, my friends, that sort of misinformation is one of the diseases with

which we are afflicted in this Republic, and I again call your attention

to the responsibility of citizenship; and in that connection I

congratulate myself, and I congratulate the Nation, that so many women

are beginning to come to places like this, on occasions like this, to

learn something about our National affairs (applause), because the

future of this country is in the hands of the boys who are now growing

up, and, perchance, the girls--who knows what may become of woman

suffrage in the next generation? (Applause) Therefore, the more

information the mothers have the better opportunity the Nation has of

getting intelligent action from the voters.

The subject of my text today is "Safeguarding the Property of the

People." Well, my friends, there are just two ways in which the property

of the people may be safeguarded: one is by the Legislative arm of the

Government, to whom the Constitution of the United States has entrusted

the power of disposing of, regulating, and controlling public property;

the other is the Executive arm of the Government, to which, under the

Constitution, the power is entrusted of enforcing the laws which have

been provided by the Legislative body.

Now, it must be apparent to any one that the most efficient Executive

must fail in safeguarding the property of the people if the laws

provided for that purpose by the Legislative body are loose, inaccurate,

or unfitted to conditions. I want to make the charge plainly and

unequivocally that, when we come (as we shall in a moment) to inquire

into the safeguarding of the property of this Nation, we will find that

all the despoiling of the Nation is directly chargeable upon the

Legislative branch of the Government, the Congress of the United States,

to whom, under the Constitution, we gave the power of trustees.

In the first place, if unfortunately _our_ representatives in the United

States Senate--and I use the word "our" figuratively--if the

representatives in the United States Senate from each State,

respectively, are there in the interest of specially privileged classes

instead of in the interest of the average, common man, it will follow

that the Executive arm of the Government will be inefficient; and I

have discovered that it _is_ inefficient in the greater part of the

West, where the greater part of the public property of the Nation

lies--the Executive arm of the Government _is_, and since the Civil War

has been the greater part of the time, utterly inefficient to safeguard

the property of the people (applause). But I would be failing in my

performance of duty if I failed to tell you why: It is because, while we

have entrusted to the President of the United States the appointing of

the United States attorneys for the different districts throughout the

United States, a rule has grown up in the Senate of the United States

which has in effect robbed the Executive of any real power in that

respect, and has placed the appointing of such officials in the hands of

the United States Senators from the respective States in which those

districts lie. (Applause)

What is the result? The result is that if the lumber interests in a

particular district are strong, because of having already succeeded in

despoiling the people of a large part of their timber interests, they

are apt to dominate the election of a United States Senator; and those

lumber interests are also liable to dictate, through that United States

Senator, the appointment of the United States officials whose duty it

will be to enforce the laws of the United States against their

benefactors. (Applause)

I would not dare to make such serious charges if I did not speak from

absolute experience (applause). When I reached Oregon I found that

situation existing in Oregon--indeed, I found on investigation before a

grand jury that the then United States attorney was protecting certain

men, who belonged to the higher-up class, from indictment, and that he

had entered into a corrupt conspiracy with both the United States

Senators from that State, by which they had agreed to have him

reappointed United States attorney _upon condition_ that these men

should not be prosecuted (applause). Moreover, I found that when the

first stealing of timber commenced in Oregon and men were arrested for

it, a man representing a big and influential timber company had taken to

the railroad train about twenty-five men at Portland and carried them up

to Salem and had them file openly on contiguous timber claims, each one

swearing falsely that he was taking the timber for his own use; and when

the matter was exposed immediately and the United States attorney took

the matter before a grand jury and indicted the leaders who had

instigated those men to go up and make the filings, influential State

officials appealed to the United States Senators from Oregon to

interfere, and appeals were sent to the Commissioner of the General Land

Office and the Secretary of the Interior, so that finally the

indictments were dismissed. Shortly thereafter about one hundred men

filed on timber claims, under a contract to turn them over as soon as

they were acquired, and again the influence of politicians and big

business men brought about a failure of justice through an assistant

United States attorney, who was the brother of the attorney representing

the big interests who had hired these men to make the filings. Case

after case of that kind came to my knowledge in Oregon; case after case

of that kind has been brought to my attention in four or five other

States. All of it can be traced back to the system under which we have

been electing our United States Senators. (Applause)

Professor Hadley has well said that the fundamental divisions of power

in the Constitution of the United States are between the voters on the

one hand and the property owners on the other. That is the fight. That

always has been the fight. That always will be the fight in this

country. You heard, probably, all of you, that great address by the

greatest citizen of the world, made in this hall the other day

(applause), in which he outlined those conditions.

Now let us come back, for I want to show you wherein our trouble lies;

and I want to show that great genius in railroad building (who is a

citizen of your State, and who talked to you yesterday afternoon)--I

want to show you and him who is responsible for the "extravagance and

waste" of the great natural resources of this country. (Applause)

I have pointed out to you how big business controlled the execution of

the laws in practically every place in the West--except, of course,

Wisconsin, Michigan, and Minnesota; in the early days when there was

timber here none of these evils existed because these conditions didn't

exist; your timber lands were not stolen in Minnesota, Wisconsin, and

Michigan; you didn't have United States attorneys suggested by United

States Senators who had been selected by owners of large timber tracts

or railroads. Some States in the Union have suffered from that, but you

never had any such thing come home to _you_ (laughter). I congratulate

you (renewed laughter). The Nation has had in its possession, owned in

common by all of us and our forefathers, 1,800,000,000 acres of land.

That is _some_ property (laughter); that is more than either you or I

possess today (laughter). And that included all of the present

Rockefeller oil possessions, it included all of the Northern Pacific's

land-grant possessions, it included all of the great anthracite

companies' coal possessions, it comprised all of the millions of acres

of timber land throughout the United States, including what there was in

Minnesota. It belonged to you and me and our fathers and mothers and

sisters and brothers. We were pretty rich at that time. We _could_ have

held on to it and developed it, because I can't believe that if we had

offered to pay a patriotic citizen like James J. Hill the sum of $50,000

a year to build a railroad for us from Lake Superior to Puget Sound and

to furnish him the money with which to build it, that he would have

refused the job (applause); even had he considered it inadequate

compensation for his great ability, his patriotic love of the people of

the United States would have led him to do it. (Great applause and

cheers) In talking with a banker the other night--one of the Big Four of

New York--I asked him if in his opinion Mr Harriman, in the gigantic

operations performed by him, was influenced by love of money and the

desire to gain filthy lucre, or whether he was influenced by the great

gratification of achievement, and he said undoubtedly by the latter;

that Mr Harriman would have combined all these railroads for the people

of the United States on a salary of $50 a month, if we didn't want to

give him any more, just for the pleasure of doing it. (Laughter and

applause) But we have received misinformation, and are receiving it yet,

to the effect that there are no patriots in the United States; that no

man is willing to develop our coal or our oil or our iron or our

water-power or anything else that is left unless we give him everything

in sight. (Laughter and applause)

My friends, the way the people of the United States have been treated in

regard to this vast property which we owned reminds me of a story I

heard about a man down South--a white man. He was going along the river

in flood time in the back country, and the river was full of floating

logs and refuse and all sorts of timber, and he saw a nigger sitting on

the bank--and will you pardon me for using the word "nigger" instead of

"colored man," because I have just been making a visit down in Virginia

and I suppose I fell into it (laughter); it is not meant as a term of

reproach, nor is it used as such there or here--and seeing this negro

sitting on the bank, he said to him, "Sam, what are you doing?"

"Nothin', Suh." "Whose boat is that?" "That's mine, Suh." "Well, Sam,

let me tell you what I'll do; you take your boat and go and haul those

logs out of the river there, and I'll give you half of all you get on

shore." (Laughter)

It took a little while for that to sink in (laughter). It has taken you

forty years to let this railroad proposition sink in. (Laughter)

Right while I am on it, while it is fresh in my mind and in yours: Mr

Hill says, "We have been extravagant." Why, my friends, do you know what

we gave to Mr Hill? I say we "gave" it; as a matter of fact, we weren't

consulted (laughter); we didn't have a referendum on it (laughter and

great applause). We gave the greatest land-grant ever given to an

individual or a corporation in the history of the world--sixty millions

of acres; when I say to Mr Hill, of course I mean the Northern Pacific.

We gave outright a strip of land 2000 miles long, 20 miles wide in the

States and 40 miles wide in the Territories! Worse than that: instead of

giving it in a solid body, we gave every even section, so that in timber

lands it carried an immense advantage over anybody else coming in from

the outside. Now, it is easy to demonstrate, and I hardly believe Mr

Hill would care to deny it--and if he does, I'll get the figures and

demonstrate it (applause)--that this land-grant was worth, at a fair

figure, ten dollars an acre at the very least. That is six hundred

million dollars (applause) of _our_ property that we "extravagantly and

improvidently wasted," as Mr Hill would call it; and I agree with him.

(Laughter and applause)

But what does that mean? Why, the road is 2000 miles long; $50,000 a

mile on an average for the entire road is a very fair figure as the cost

of it, making, if I calculate correctly, $100,000,000, to build it.

Let's double that, and allow $100,000 a mile for the 2000 miles; that

certainly would build and equip the road. That is two hundred million

dollars. And we gave six hundred million dollars worth of land, and the

railroad was built and now wants _forever_ to charge you rates--upon how

much of a capitalization? Well, I don't know. But four hundred million

dollars profit! Why, that would more than build the Panama Canal--and I

wonder that some private corporation didn't do _that_ (laughter). It

_would_, undoubtedly, if we had been willing to give to it all of the

remaining 700,000,000 acres of land that we have left--including Alaska,

with the coal mines that Guggenheim wants (laughter and applause). We

_have_ been "improvident"--or somebody has--with the property of the

people.

Now, who was so improvident? Why, Congress; because the Constitution

places in the hands of Congress the power to dispose of, regulate, and

control the property of the United States; and Congress did it--and

_did_ us, too (laughter and applause). But not satisfied with that,

Congress gave to the Southern Pacific, the Central Pacific, and the

Union Pacific 120,000,000 acres more of our inheritance, which we

purchased with both blood and money--because the war with Mexico led to

a part of the purchase, in which thousands of American citizens were

killed, and thousands of American women widowed, and thousands of

American children orphaned, while we put fifteen millions of _our_

money--our common pot--into the purchase on top of that human blood; and

then we "extravagantly and improvidently" gave it away. (Applause)

Not satisfied with that, when we commenced to realize that it was

necessary to save the forests of this country--some of the forests which

were left--Congress again passed an act, in 1907, called the New Land

Act. In 1891 it had passed the law authorizing the President to create

National forest reserves. At the same time it had passed a law

authorizing the States to select new lands for the school sections which

might be included in the National forest reserves. A gentleman in

California by the name of Frederick A. Hyde, and another gentleman (who

is since dead, and who served a year in jail, just before his death, for

defrauding the United States), were actively operating in the State of

California in school lands. Now, don't get the idea in your heads from

what I have been saying about the way Congress has handled the lands and

property of the United States that I am in favor of turning over to the

States the power to handle any property in the hope that it will be

better handled, because there, again, my experience teaches me that it

will be worse--_if possible_ (laughter and applause). Well, under that

law of 1891, Hyde and his companion adopted this system: Where they

found that school lands were in reserve (they had a man in the

Surveyor-General's office who was looking out for them), they would go

down and get bootblacks, and saloon barkeepers, and Tom, Dick, and Harry

to sign an application for school lands--under the law of California 320

acres--the law requiring that in making his filing the applicant should

swear that he was taking it for his own use and benefit and not for

speculative purposes. And at the same time that Mr Bootblack signed the

application, he would sign a transfer of his interest, a conveyance of

the land, with the date left blank; and a very agreeable notary public

would put his seal and acknowledgment upon the affidavit and the

assignment, despite the blanks and the absence even of any description

of the lands in the application. Then, when Mr Hyde had one or two

hundred of these, he would go and take up all those school lands, and

have the agent of the State thereupon locate all of these school lands

in a body in the finest forest he could find in California--some of the

finest that ever grew on earth are there, trees two and three hundred

feet high, sixteen to twenty feet in diameter, cutting so many millions

of feet to the quarter-section that it would astound even a Minnesota

lumberman unless he had been out there and seen it; and those

magnificent virgin forests would be separated from public ownership by

our "extravagance"--and this, mark you, through Congress passing the

1891 law for the benefit (?) of the schools of the State so loosely

drawn that speculators could take advantage of it in this way. So the

virgin forests went into private ownership; and Mr Hill will tell you,

"What of it? Doesn't that develop the country?"

Why, my friends, they didn't even put the patents on record, because the

tax collector of the county would put them on the assessment roll if

they did (laughter). And so they grabbed millions of acres, that they

had no idea of using in the present; they were holding it for the profit

which would come from scarcity of timber through the waste and use which

is going on. Why, people living in the very neighborhood of the timber

grabbed don't know that it has passed out of Government ownership! And

yet those are some of the people who have been living "extravagantly." I

believe that some of them wear shoes that cost the high price of a

dollar, and eat bacon that is four-fifths fat. (Laughter and applause)

Let me tell you that extravagance is largely a matter of trying to copy

after the Higher-ups. No nation was ever destroyed until it had a large

leisure class to set a bad example (applause) in living to the common

people; and this Nation has a leisure class which is rapidly growing,

and which is more wealthy than any leisure class ever known to the

world, civilized or barbarian. Why? My friends, _solely_ because

Congress has by bad laws permitted all this vast property of the people

to get into the hands of the few (applause). There is not a fortune in

this country today large enough to be a menace to the liberties of the

common people which has not been acquired by despoiling the people

through legislation that was either corrupt or the result of such

ignorance that it ought to be punished as criminal negligence, or else

through unfair discrimination made by common carriers giving one man an

advantage over his competitors. (Applause)

Now, I haven't time to finish--I am afraid I have overstepped my time

already--(Voices: "Go on, go on," and applause) but I want to "go on"

just a little longer (laughter and applause) because I have something on

my mind that I want to put on yours. (Laughter)

We didn't lose our great inheritance until after the Civil War.

Practically all of the rapes of this Nation by Congress have been

committed since the Civil War, and every land law which Congress has

placed upon the statute books since 1860 has been vicious--absolutely

vicious--in its tendencies, and the Commissioner of the General Land

Office and the Secretary of the Interior have constantly, every year,

told Congress about it in printed reports and begged and urged Congress

to change the laws: _and it has refused to do it!_ (Applause)

Of course all members of Congress are not to blame for that; because

this fight which Hadley says is going on always, and always will go on,

in the division of power fundamentally between the voters and the

property owners, has resulted in the property owners having more

representatives in Congress than the people ever had. (Applause)

Now, I am not here to abuse anybody. I heard a man tell a homely story

last night that went directly to my heart; it's exactly in line with

what I think about most of the men who are responsible for the present

condition; I don't say these men are bad, but only that they have a

wrong viewpoint--and that was illustrated in the story. This gentleman

said that one day his boy brought home a fox-terrier. They had poultry

at his home, some brown leghorns and some white chickens. This

fox-terrier had been born and raised on a ranch where they had nothing

but brown leghorns, and consequently when he went out in the

chicken-yard and saw the feed thrown out he rushed out immediately--of

course, without being told to do it--and weeded out the white chickens

from the brown leghorns and drove them away from the feed and let the

brown leghorns have it all (laughter). Now, it wasn't the fault of the

dog that the white chickens lost their feed (laughter); we mustn't blame

him; that had become second nature, from what we would call, speaking in

reference to human beings, _environment_ (laughter and applause); and

it's a rare dog who can discover for himself that the white chickens

ought to have an equal right with the brown leghorns to get _some_ of

the feed. (Laughter and applause)

When, after the Civil War, business commenced to swing with great

strides in this country, owing to the great inventions in machinery,

the discovery of the cotton-gin and so many other things that we can't

stop to enumerate them, and the growth of the use of electricity in

later days, a few men commenced to see business enlarge--and they were

not the men who fought in the War, but the men who remained at home and

reflected (laughter and applause). Some of them were like the man

pictured in one of the illustrated papers where there was a cartoon of

Thomas Jefferson signing the Declaration of Independence, with one of

the imaginary corporation men of the day--a Tory--rushing in through the

door and saying, "Hold on, Thomas, don't sign that document; it'll hurt

_business_" (laughter); and these men said, "Let's stop this War, it's

hurting business." And there were others who thought the War _made_

business, though that was before they had commenced to can beef

(laughter). Then after the War, when the men who had made the fight for

human liberty and the continuance of equal opportunities in this country

came home and went to work, they went ahead satisfied to make a living

for their little families in the best way they could, while these

_business men_ who had remained at home had discovered that _if_ a man

can get possession of those natural resources which can be turned into

energy--the energy which drives modern machinery, which can do the work

of human hands--he can sit back and fold his arms and say to the eighty

million people in the United States, "Go ahead; when you want energy to

run your machinery, you'll have to come to me and buy it; when your

money is gone the eighty millions of you will have to work for me; and

when you get to be one hundred and sixty millions, you'll still have to

work for me." Now, it requires some imagination to see that, but it is

just as fundamentally true as that the earth is spherical--flattened at

the poles, as Cook tells us (laughter); and Peary corroborates it.

(Laughter)

Let me explain; because I want you to take home something, besides

figures, that you will remember. When a man in the old days, when they

had no machinery, employed four or five men, he commenced to be a

business man; and when he began to put profit in his pocket--even at the

rate of only ten cents a day for the labor of each man working for him,

if he had five men he was making a clear profit of fifty cents a day,

and if he had fifty men the profit was five dollars a day--he got on the

road to "big business." If he could have five hundred men and could make

fifty cents a day off the labor of each one, he would be making two

hundred and fifty dollars a day; and if he could have factories spread

out over the United States in which he had an aggregate of ten million

men working for him--as in shoe factories when they made shoes entirely

by hand--and could make fifty cents a day off each of the ten million

men, he would make five million dollars a day. The figures stagger us.

Now, with machinery you can take coal, oil, timber, gas, or

water-power--those are the energy-creating natural resources--and make

machinery run with them; and if you own enough of those energy-creating

natural resources to be equivalent to the labor of ten million men, and

apply it to the right machinery, you can compete with the man who has

ten million slaves to work for him and does not possess this other

energy--and you can do better than merely compete, because your

water-power doesn't wear out shoes at the toes nor coats at the elbows

nor trousers at the knees; so, my friends, the man who owns the

water-power is a greater slave-owner--has more energy that can be turned

into wealth--than all the planters who owned the colored men of the

South.

Now, at the time of the Civil War we didn't understand this great power

and the importance of preserving it in the ownership of the

people--because it all belonged to us then. There is available--so the

report of the National Conservation Commission says--37,000,000

horsepower in the streams of this country. What does this mean? Why, my

friends, the energy expended by an average draft-horse working eight

hours a day is equal to only four-fifths of the unit horsepower, as we

use it in speaking of water-power, so that it would be equivalent, for

an eight-hour day's work, to more than fifty-four million average draft

horses. Now, machinery used to be driven by man-power before the draft

horse was made to work in place of the man; that was what they did in

the old tread-mill before the discovery of steam, which has only been in

effective use about a hundred years; and in man-power, what does the

forty million horsepower available immediately for use mean? You don't

conceive of it, I am sure. A horsepower is equal to the work of at least

ten men, and forty million horsepower would be equal to the work of

400,000,000 men! Why, all the people in the United States today are only

90,000,000, including babies. Four-hundred-million-of-men power! And

just as sure as the sun will rise, if we permit that to go into

perpetual ownership of individuals, the day will come when one

corporation will own it all and one man will dictate and dominate that

corporation (applause). If you want this country to have material

progress at the cost of human liberty, let this source of energy slip

out of your hands (applause); but if you want to hold on to any kind of

a chance for your children and children's children to have equal

opportunities like yours, then follow the policies laid down by Theodore

Roosevelt the other day in regard to those energy-producing

resources--coal, oil, gas, and water, as well as timber--and this

country will be so great that all earlier history will never have told

of such progress as the human race will make within these confines.

(Applause)

It seems to me that we all ought to be able to realize that no human

being in the short space of a lifetime can have earned a hundred million

dollars--he cannot have given an equivalent to mankind for $100,000,000;

and when we see the example set by some of these great captains of

industry who go over to Monte Carlo and risk a fortune on one bet and

one turn of the wheel, and come back to this country and talk about

their great benevolence, and then find that the Pittsburg "Survey" found

conditions of human life at their workshops so low that it is bound to

degrade and pull down the human race--surely it is time to stop and

consider. (Tremendous and prolonged applause)

My friends, we must have more democracy in this country (applause). I

know this is no place to talk politics, and I am not here for the

purpose of talking politics in a partisan sense; but the Conservation of

the natural resources for the benefit of the human race--not only the

people of the United States--is of such transcendent importance that it

rises above all parties and all men (great applause). Why is it that

some of these men who have profited by our mistakes and our improvidence

in the past are fighting against this Conservation movement? Is it

because they fear that we will fail to develop the country rapidly

enough? No! Every true Conservationist believes in developing the

country rapidly as possible. But we realize the danger, the menace to

human liberty, that lies in _parting with the fee title_ to all these

great energy-producing natural resources; and if we can arouse the

people of the United States to a realization and understanding of this

question--which, after all, is simple when we get down to it--there will

be such a wave of insurgency sweep over this country as will drive the

representatives of the special interests out of every public office in

the Nation. (Great and prolonged applause and cheers)

Now, in order to illustrate what I have said about what these people--or

Congress--have done and failed to do, I must draw your attention to the

fact that under the Timber and Stone Act, 13,000,000 acres of the finest

timber in the world have been extravagantly and improvidently disposed

of and lost to the people through a vicious Act of Congress, and have

gone largely into the hands of a few owners; for the repeated reports of

the Secretary of the Interior--even the present Secretary, Mr

Ballinger--show that ten of the thirteen million acres are in the hands

of a few individuals and corporations. Ten million acres! Why, that is

equal to two of the smaller eastern States. In 1878, the then Secretary

of the Interior, immediately after the Act was passed, said in his

report for that year (Report of Secretary of Interior, 1878-1879, pp.

xii-xv):

While no legislation applicable to all parts of the country

with regard to this subject was had, two bills of a local

character were passed, one "Authorizing the citizens of

Colorado, Nevada, and the Territories to fell and remove timber

on the public domain for mining and domestic purposes," and one

"For the sale of timber lands in the States of California and

Oregon and in Washington Territory."

In the opinion of the Commissioner of the General Land Office,

which is on record in this Department, these two acts are more

calculated to _hasten the destruction_ of the forests in the

States and Territories named than to secure the preservation of

them.

Of this act the Commissioner of the General Land Office, in a

letter addressed to the Secretary of the Interior, expresses

the following opinion:

"It is a fact well known that while almost all the

timber-bearing land in those States and all the Territories,

except Dakota and Washington, is regarded as mineral, only a

small portion is so in reality. The effect of this bill will,

in my opinion, be to prevent the survey and sale of any of the

timber lands, or the timber upon the lands, in the States and

Territories named, thus cutting off large prospective revenues

that might and should be derived from the sale of such lands or

the timber upon them. It is equivalent to a donation of all the

timber lands _to the inhabitants of those States and

Territories_, which will be found to be the largest donation of

the public domain hitherto made by Congress. This bill

authorizes the registers and receivers of the land offices in

the several districts in which the lands are situated to make

investigations without any specific directions from the

Secretary of the Interior or the Commissioner of the General

Land Office, to settle and adjust their own accounts, and

retain from the moneys coming into their hands arising from

sales of lands such amounts as they may expend or cause to be

expended. This method will be found exceedingly expensive and

result in no good. Experience has shown that the machinery of

the land offices is wholly inadequate to prevent depredations."

The "Rules and Regulations" issued in pursuance of the first

section of this act are to be found in the report of the

Commissioner of the General Land Office, herewith presented.

These rules, drawn up with a view to and the intention of

preserving the young timber and undergrowth upon the mineral

lands of the United States and to the end that the mountain

sides may not be left denuded and barren of the timber and

undergrowth necessary to prevent the precipitation of the

rain-fall and melting snows in floods upon the fertile arable

lands in the valleys below, thus destroying the agricultural

and pasturage interests of the mineral and mountainous portions

of the country, make it the duty of registers and receivers to

see to it that trespassers upon timber lands, not mineral, be

duly reported, that upon mineral lands only timber of a certain

size be cut, and that young trees and undergrowth be protected,

and that timber be cut only for the purposes mentioned in the

act. These "Rules and Regulations" will be enforced with all

the power left to this department to that end, in order to save

what may be saved. But I deem it my duty to call attention to

the fact that, as set forth by the Commissioner in the letter

above quoted, the machinery of the land offices is utterly

inadequate to accomplish the object in view.

After a careful consideration of the above-named Act and its

probable effects, I venture the prediction that the permission

given the inhabitants of the States and Territories named

therein, to take timber from the public lands in any quantity

and wherever they can find it, for all purposes except export

and sale to railroads, will be taken advantage of, not only by

settlers and miners to provide economically for their actual

current wants, but by persons who will see in this donation a

chance to make money quickly; that it will stimulate a wasteful

consumption beyond actual need and lead to wanton destruction;

that the machinery left to this Department to prevent or

repress such waste and destruction through the enforcement of

the rules above mentioned will prove entirely inadequate; that

as a final result in a few years the mountain sides of those

States and Territories will be stripped bare of the timber now

growing upon them, with no possibility of its reproduction, the

soil being once washed off from the slopes, and that the

irreparable destruction of the forests will bring upon those

States all the calamities experienced from the same causes in

districts in Europe and Asia similarly situated.

It appears to me, therefore, that the repeal of the above-named

act, and the substitution therefor of a law embodying a more

provident policy, similar to that of the above-mentioned Senate

Bill No. 609, is in the highest degree desirable. If the

destruction of the forests in those States be permitted, the

agricultural and pasturage interests in the mountainous regions

will inevitably be sacrificed, and the valleys in the course of

time become unfit for the habitation of men.

The act for the sale of timber lands in the States of

California, Oregon, and Nevada, and in Washington Territory,

passed by Congress at its last session, is, in a letter

addressed to this Department, commented upon by the

Commissioner of the General Land Office, in the following

language:

"It is a bill of local and not general application to the

timber lands of the United States, and adds one more to the

already numerous special acts for the disposal of the public

domain. The price fixed is too low, as much of the land is

worth from five to fifty dollars per acre.

"Under the provisions of the bill the timber lands will, in my

opinion, be speedily taken up and pass into the hands of

speculators, notwithstanding the provisions to prevent such

results. The soil should not be sold with the timber where the

land is not fit for cultivation. Only the timber of a certain

size should be sold, and the soil and young timber retained

with a view to the reproduction of the forests. The bill should

have limited the sale of the lands to persons who have farms

and homes within the State or Territory, and it ought to have

required the purchasers to show affirmatively that they had

need of timber for domestic uses."

No less emphatic were later recommendations for repeal or amendment of

the Timber and Stone Acts (Report of Secretary of Interior, 1879-80, p.

27):

In my last annual report I discussed the inadequacy of the laws

enacted by the last Congress "Authorizing the citizens of

Colorado, Nevada, and the Territories to fell and remove timber

on the public domain for mining and domestic purposes," and

providing "for the sale of timber lands in the States of

California and Oregon and in Washington Territory." The opinion

I then ventured to express, that the first of these Acts would

be taken advantage of not only by settlers and miners to

provide economically for their actual current wants, but by

persons who see in this donation a chance to make money

quickly; that it would stimulate a wasteful consumption beyond

all actual need and lead to wanton destruction, and that the

machinery left to this Department to prevent or repress such

waste and destruction through the enforcement of the rules to

be made by the Commissioner of the General Land Office would be

found insufficient for that purpose, _has already_ in many

places _been verified by experience_; also the predictions made

by the Commissioner of the General Land Office with regard to

the effect of the second one of the above-named acts. Referring

to what was said about these laws in my last annual report, I

repeat my _earnest_ recommendation that they be _repealed_, and

that more adequate legislation be substituted therefor.

It is by no means denied that the people of the above-named

States and Territories must have timber for their domestic use

as well as the requirements of their local industries. Neither

is it insisted upon that the timber so required should be

imported from a distance, so that the forests in those States

and Territories might remain intact. This would be

unreasonable. But it is deemed necessary that a law be enacted

providing that the people may lawfully acquire the timber

required for their domestic use and their local industries from

the public lands under such regulations as will prevent the

indiscriminate and irreparable destruction of forests, with its

train of disastrous consequences. It is thought that this end

will be reached by authorizing the Government _to sell timber

from the public lands principally valuable for the timber

thereon_, _without conveying the fee_, and to conduct such

sales by Government officers under such instructions from this

Department as will be calculated to _prevent the denudation of

large tracts_, especially in those mountain regions _where

forests once destroyed will not reproduce themselves_. I have

no doubt that under such a law, well considered in its

provisions, the people of those States and Territories would be

enabled to obtain all the timber they need for domestic as well

as industrial purposes at reasonable rates, and that at the

same time the cutting of timber can be so regulated as to

afford sufficient protection to the existence and reproduction

of the forests, which is so indispensable to the future

prosperity of those regions. I venture to express the opinion

that the enactment of such a law has become a pressing

necessity, and cannot much longer be delayed without great and

irreparable injury to one of the most vital interests of the

people. I therefore again commend to the consideration of

Congress the bill introduced as Senate Bill No. 609 in the

_last_ Congress:

"The last clause of the second section will permit any person

applying for a tract of timber land and securing a certificate

from the Register to sell his right and interest therein

_immediately_, and the purchaser, although it may have been

obtained by perjury, may be entitled to a patent for the land.

"Section 5 provides that any person prosecuted under Sec. 2461

of the Revised Statutes of the United States, may be relieved

of the penalty by the payment of two dollars and fifty cents

per acre for the land trespassed upon. This is objectionable,

for the reason that the penalty fixed is altogether inadequate,

and does not require the payment of costs of prosecution, which

are often greater than the penalty to be collected. It should

require that the trespasser should pay for the entire

subdivision trespassed upon.

"There can be no doubt that if this bill becomes a law it will

be taken advantage of, by persons who want to make money

quickly, to acquire the timber lands under its provisions at a

very low price, and strip the mountain sides of their forest

growth as rapidly as possible. How disastrous such a result

will be to these States and Territories need not be detailed

here."

My friends, every report from 1878 down to the last report this year,

tells Congress exactly the same thing, and begs and urges Congress to

repeal this Timber and Stone Act. Not only that; every report goes on

and tells that large tracts are being stolen and taken fraudulently,

and Congress is urged for that reason to repeal it and make a different

rule in regard to the sale of the timber, not to hold it but to sell the

timber off the land letting buyers take the mature growth, and

replanting and reforesting so that the timber will always be there; and

Congress failed to act until 1892, fourteen years later. After the above

reports went in, with a report of the same kind every year for fourteen

years, then, in 1892, with a report before them at the time to the same

effect, Congress _extended_ the Timber and Stone Act to take in Montana

and some other States. _Who got them to do it?_ The great amalgamated

copper interests are in Montana, and the great smelting interests there

wanted _timber_--that belonged to us, and that they could well afford to

pay for--and they wanted to get it under this vicious Act, and they

_did_ get it under this vicious Act; and indictments followed only a

short time ago, but there was failure of proof although everybody knew

who was guilty (applause). And, my friends, the Act of Congress in

extension of the vicious law, with all these reports before them, cannot

be accounted for upon any other theory than that the people of the

United States have a minority of representatives in both branches of

Congress (applause). Now, after the extension, the adverse reports

commenced to come in again; and they have been followed up every year

down to the present year, yet that Timber and Stone Act still remains on

the statute books unamended and unrepealed! _How_ can you account for

it? I'll tell you how. Why, _there is still some timber to be stolen_!

(Applause)

Now, I have taken altogether too much of your time. I have not been able

to present this matter as satisfactorily to myself as I would have liked

on account of the limitation of time--I suppose most of you are glad of

that. (Voices: "No, no, no; go on!") I can't go on; it wouldn't be fair

to other gentlemen who are here to speak, especially to Mr Gifford

Pinchot who is to talk to you immediately after I conclude, and I know

you want to hear from him (applause). But I want to say to you that the

fight to prevent our natural resources from getting into private

ownership is a war that will have a greater influence upon the future of

the human race than even the great Civil War in this country had

(applause); and I want to say to you, further, that I have enlisted in

that war as a private soldier (applause, and a voice: "We'll make you

the leader!") for the full term of my natural life. (Great applause)

* * * * *

Governor EBERHART--The next subject for consideration is "The

Conservation Program"; and I wish that time would permit me to say some

of the fine things I would like to say about the speaker. I will say

just one thing: A short time ago I was in the Belasco Theater in the

city of Washington and the question of Conservation was up, and this man

stood on the rostrum and said to that vast congregation that the time

had come when we must forget personalities and men, and work for

principles--that it was time for every man interested in the welfare of

the Nation to come forward in this Conservation work, forgetting the

past, and forget all personal prejudices and jealousies, and work for

this one movement; and at the close of his address he was given such an

ovation at the hands of that gathering as he has frequently received

here. It is not necessary for me to formally introduce him; you know him

as the best friend of our forests--Gifford Pinchot. (Great applause and

cheers)

* * * * *

Mr GIFFORD PINCHOT--Governor, Ladies and Gentlemen: I am not tired of

receiving your kindness, but I wonder if you are not tired of receiving

my thanks! I _do_ want to thank you most earnestly for all your

kindness; and I have wished all along that one person who has made the

fight with me could be here, and that is my Mother. (Great applause)

I shall have to read a good deal of my paper to you tonight, because

there are some things I want to say more exactly than I otherwise could;

but I will read just as little as possible.

Like nearly every great reform--and Conservation _is_ a great

reform--the Conservation movement first passed through a period of

generalities, general agitation and general approval, when all men were

its friends; and it hadn't yet really begun. You have all noticed that

when a minister in church makes a general arraignment of wickedness, no

particular sinner seems to care very much--it passes over his head, or

he applies it to the other fellow; but when he comes down to particular

cases, and the special shortcomings, the special desires, the special

impulses which control each one of us, begin to be the subject of his

oration, then there is a very different situation. Now, it was just so

with the Conservation movement. At first everyone approved it, because

it touched no one nearly; then it passed into a period of practical

application, out of the sweep of the generalities, and at once the men

whose particular interests were threatened began to take an active

interest in the question, and the opposition began; and with that opened

the second period of the Conservation movement.

When this fight began, it was found that the people believed in

Conservation all over this Nation, and that fact had to be taken into

consideration by the people who were opposing the movement. When there

is a general movement of which all men approve, the regular way in which

the attack is made upon it is to join in the approval and then get after

the men and the methods by which the general proposition is being

carried out. So, now we find that the desire of the opponents of

Conservation--and there are not so very many of them in numbers--is not

at all that we should abandon the principle of making the best use of

our natural resources; they do not urge that we should abandon the ideas

of doing the best thing for all of us for the longest time; but the

soft-pedal Conservationists _do_ demand that Conservation shall be safe

and sane. Safety and sanity, in the meaning of the men who use that term

most as applied to legislation, means legislation not unfriendly to the

continued domination of the great interests as opposed to the welfare

of the people (applause); and safe and sane Conservation, as that

expression is used by those same men, means Conservation so carefully

sterilized that it will do no harm to the special interests and very

little good to the people. (Prolonged applause)

I take it, of course, that every friend of Conservation is fully and

heartily in sympathy with safety and sanity; that goes without saying,

for if there ever was a prudent, safe and sane program, it is that of

the Conservation movement, expressing a prudent, safe and sane spirit,

and intention as well. But we must never forget that safety and sanity

from the point of view of the men who are advocating Conservation--from

the point of view of a great gathering like this--means that, first,

last, and all the time, the interests of _all_ the people shall be set

ahead of the interests of any part of the people. (Applause)

Among the things that have been charged against the Conservation

movement is this, that Conservation does not know what it wants--that

the Conservation movement is an indefinite striving after no one knows

exactly what. I want to tell you, on the other hand, that the

Conservation program is now, and has for at least two years been a

definite concrete attempt to get certain specific things; and that the

impression which has been made, or has been sought to be made, that we

didn't know what we were after, is wholly misleading. (Applause)

The Conservation program may be found, most of it, in the following

reports--the report of the Public Lands Commission of 1905; the report

of the Inland Waterways Commission, March, 1908; the great Declaration

of Principles adopted by the Governors at the White House, in May,

1908--one of the great documents of our history; the report of the

Commission on Country Life, January, 1909; and the Declaration of the

North American Conservation Conference, February, 1909. By the close of

the last Administration, the Conservation program had grown into a

well-defined platform, and the only important addition of more recent

date is a clearer understanding--and we have now a very clear

understanding--that monopoly of natural resources is the great enemy of

Conservation, and that monopoly always must depend on the control of

natural resources and natural advantages of a few as against the

interests of the many. (Applause)

None of the men, so far as I know, who are engaged in the Conservation

movement, took hold of that side of the fight because they wanted to. I

can say, for myself at least, that it was not until I was forced into it

by experience that I could not doubt, by being defeated over and over

again in trying to get things I knew were right--it was not until the

covert opposition of the special interests in Conservation was beaten

into me, and beaten into the rest of us, that that end of it was taken

up at all. There are troubles enough in this world without any of us

hunting a fight; but this fight hunted us (applause), and we are in it

yet, as Mr Heney declares.

The principles of Conservation are very few and very simple. That is one

of the beauties of this whole movement--that there is nothing mysterious

or complicated or hard to understand about it; it is the simplest

possible application of common sense. The first of the principles is

this: that the natural resources and the natural advantages both belong

to all the people and should be developed, protected, and perpetuated

directly for the benefit of all the people and not mainly for the profit

of a few (applause). The second principle is that the natural resources

still owned by the people which are necessaries of life, like coal and

water-power, should remain in the public ownership and should be

disposed of only under lease for limited periods and with fair

compensation to the public for the rights granted (applause). I have

never sympathized with the ideas we have heard so much of that the

people must not try to protect themselves because they are not fit to

handle their own affairs, and especially that they cannot handle their

affairs in the matter of Conservation. By all means let us have the

resources cared for, held in ownership by the people of the States as

well as of the Nation, and handled for the benefit of the people first

of all. (Applause)

Now, I want to state a few propositions as to each of the four great

categories of the natural resources, which seem to me to include not all

but a very considerable proportion of the fundamental things that

Conservation people seek. It is very likely that some will not agree

that these are the fundamental things; but I believe these propositions,

taken together, represent fairly the opinion of most of the many

millions of men and women who believe in Conservation.

First, as to our waterways: Every stream should be made useful for every

purpose in which it can be made to serve the public. We have been in the

habit of sacrificing, for example, irrigation to power, or power to the

city water supply. Let us study our streams and use them for every

purpose to which they can be put. The preparation of a broad plan is

needed without delay for the development of our waterways for

navigation, domestic supply, irrigation, drainage and power. (Applause)

Second, every water-power site now in State or Federal control should be

held in that control (applause), and should be disposed of only under

lease for a limited time and with fair compensation to the public.

Third, in the development of our waterways, the cooperation of the

States with the Nation is essential to the general welfare. (Applause)

Now, as to our forests: First, all forests necessary for the public

welfare should be in the public ownership and remain there (applause).

Among these are the National Forests already in existence and the

proposed Appalachian and White Mountain National Forests (applause). I

am glad to hear you applaud the proposition for the Appalachian and

White Mountain forests--we need them (applause). We want also the State

forests to be taken care of--the State forests of New York,

Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and other States.

Second, the protection of forests against fire is the duty of State and

Nation alike (applause); and that lesson has been driven home this year

in a way that I think will make our people understand and remember it

for many years to come. I want to pay a tribute in a word, if you will

allow me, to the wonderful work done by the boys of the National Forest

Service, of the Army, and of the great fire-fighting associations of the

West, and by many private citizens, in making what seems to me to have

been one of the best, one of the boldest, one of the most devoted fights

for the public welfare of which I know anything in recent years

(applause). The way to stop fires in a forest, as in a town, is to get

men to them as soon as they begin. The maintenance and extension of

forest fire patrol by the Nation and States and by their subdivisions

and by associations or private citizens who own timber lands is

absolutely necessary. And we must have not only a patrol but a

_sufficient_ patrol.

Third, the development of existing forests by wise use is the first step

in forestry, and reforestation is the second. Practical forestry in our

existing forests comes first, tree planting follows; both are absolutely

essential if we are to handle this problem right. (Applause)

Fourth: Land bearing forests should be taxed annually on the land value

alone, and the timber crop should be taxed only when cut, so that

private forestry may be encouraged (applause). Next to fire, there is

nothing that so stubbornly stands in the way of practical forestry in

this country as bad methods of taxation. (Applause)

Fifth--and I feel very strongly about this: The private ownership of

forest lands is in reality a public trust, and the people have both the

right and the duty to regulate the use of such private forest lands in

the general interest. (Applause)

Then as to the lands: Every acre of land should be put to whatever use

will make it most serviceable to all the people (applause). All

agricultural land should be put to agricultural use. I have never been

one to maintain that forest-bearing land which could be more useful

under the plow should be kept for forest uses (applause); I have never

been one to maintain, either, that land bearing heavy timber, acquired

ostensibly for agricultural uses, should be cut over and afterward

abandoned (applause). The fundamental object of our land policy should

be the making and maintenance of permanent prosperous homes--that is the

whole story (applause). Land monopoly, and excessive holdings of lands

in private ownership in great bodies, must not be tolerated (applause).

One of the very great difficulties in several parts of our country

arises in huge consolidated holdings of land, which make tenants out of

men who ought to be freeholders--free men on their own land. (Applause)

Settlement should be encouraged by every legitimate means on all the

land that will support homes. That is a fundamental proposition. Thus

the tillable land in public ownership, within and without the National

Forest, should be disposed of in fee simple to actual settlers, but

never to speculators. (Applause)

The first and most needed thing to do for our cultivated lands is to

preserve their fertility by preventing erosion, the greatest tax the

farmer pays. (Applause)

The non-irrigable and arid public grazing lands should be administered

and controlled by the Federal Government in the interest of the small

stockman and the homemaker until they can pass directly into the hands

of actual settlers (applause). Many millions of acres are now having

their forage value destroyed because Uncle Sam exercises no control

whatever over a territory vastly larger than any single State--even

Texas.

Finally, rights to the surface of the public land should be separated

from rights to the forests upon it and the minerals beneath it, and each

should be held subject to separate disposal; _and the Timber and Stone

Act should be repealed!_ (Applause)

As to our minerals: Those which still remain in Government ownership

should not be sold--especially coal--but should be leased on terms

favorable to development up to the full requirements of our people. I

want to make it plain, if anyone should happen not to understand, that

the withdrawals which have been made of coal lands and oil lands and

phosphate lands are not intended to be permanent; they are intended

simply to prevent those lands from passing into private ownership until

Congress can pass proper laws for retaining them in the public ownership

and having them used there (applause). Until legislation to this effect

can be enacted, temporary withdrawals of land containing coal, oil, gas,

and phosphate rock, are required in order to prevent speculation and

monopoly.

It is the clear duty of the Federal Government, as well as that of the

States in their spheres, to provide, through investigation, legislation,

and regulation, against loss of life and waste of mineral resources in

mining. The recent creation of a National Bureau of Mines makes a real

advance in the right direction. And I want here to pay my tribute to the

man who has recently and most wisely been appointed director of that

Bureau of Mines, Joseph A. Holmes, one of the best fighters for

Conservation that this country has produced. (Applause)

With regard to National efficiency: The maintenance of National and

State conservation commissions is necessary to ascertain and make public

the facts as to our natural resources. That seems to me to be

fundamental. We must have the machinery for continuing this work. Such

commissions supply the fundamental basis for cooperation between the

Nation and the States for the development and protection of the

foundations of our prosperity.

A National Health Service is needed to act in cooperation with similar

agencies within the States for the purpose of lengthening life,

decreasing suffering, and promoting the vigor and efficiency of our

people (applause). I think it is high time we began to take as much care

of ourselves as we do of our natural resources. (Applause)

These are not all the things for which Conservation stands, but they are

some of the more important. I had meant to speak here of the conflict

between State and Federal jurisdictions, which we have seen illustrated

in this Congress, but I prefer to speak, not of the conflicts, but of

the chances for cooperation (applause). I believe in the Federal control

of water-power in navigable and source streams and of water-power sites

that are now in the Federal hands. I believe equally that every State

has a great duty to its own people in Conservation, and that only by

full and free and hearty cooperation between the Nation and the States

can we all of us get together to control or develop, as the case may be,

those intrastate or interstate agencies which are attempting for private

profit to harm all the people (applause). When a question is settled, as

I think this Congress has pretty well settled in its own mind certain of

the questions relating to the division of the Federal and State work,

that is the time to go on and act upon it; and I believe we ought to

emphasize here most vigorously the functions of the State as well as the

functions of the National Government, always remembering that the

Federal Government alone is capable of handling questions which exceed

the limits of any one State, and that, as Colonel Roosevelt said here

the other day, nearly all of the great corporations have affiliations

extending throughout the Nation or at least across State boundaries. I

am as vigorously for the recognition of the State power and the State

duty as I am for the recognition of the Federal power and the Federal

duty, each in its proper place (applause). But should I at any time see

an attempt made to hide behind either one of these powers at the expense

of the people, I would not be doing my duty if I didn't stand up and say

so.

Just a word in closing: No body like this can get together without

firing a man's imagination and heart. I have been at many great

meetings, but never at one that seemed to me to contain within itself

the possibility and power for good that this one does (applause). I have

watched this Conservation movement grow, as we all have; I see it now on

the very verge of the most practical kind of results. The clouds have

cleared away; we know where we stand; we are ready to go forward, and we

know where we are going and how. There has been gathered here a body of

men and women whose motive is clearly this, that they propose when they

depart to leave this good old earth better for their children than when

they found it (applause), and they are carrying that message to the

people of the United States more powerfully than it has ever been

carried before. If any man or any woman were disposed not to be hopeful

about the Conservation movement, I think this Congress would lift them

to a new plane; it gives us new hope for the future of our country. I

thank you. (Great applause)

* * * * *

Governor EBERHART--Ladies and Gentlemen: Just a few words before we take

a recess until this evening: I wish on this occasion, as it will be

perhaps the only one afforded to me, to express my sincere thanks to the

officers of this Congress for the splendid manner in which they have

done their work. I have never met a more congenial and kindly set of

officers than those who are handling this convention (applause), and a

great deal of the credit of the success of this convention is due to

their personal, persistent, and strenuous efforts. I take it that this

is the time at which, as Chief Executive of the State, I should present

my acknowledgments. I regret that the President of the Congress, who is

always unselfish, has determined that, in order to give the other

officers, delegates and guests a chance tonight to be heard, his own

lecture--which we have all been waiting for--shall not be presented at

this time.

Among the splendid sentiments which Mr Pinchot has uttered, one of the

very best, I think, was that the States and the Nation instead of

struggling among themselves as to how authority should be divided,

should cooperate (applause) in the Conservation of the resources of the

country for the benefit of all the people for all time.

After two or three announcements have been made, we will take a recess

until this evening at 8 oclock.

Professor CONDRA--The Committee on Nominations will meet, immediately

after this meeting adjourns, in Room 601, Saint Paul Hotel.

Since the report of the Committee on Credentials was received and filed

with the Secretary yesterday, there has been an additional registration

of 40 or 50 delegates.

It was announced this morning that the Call of the States would be made

this afternoon, but it became impossible to do so. President Baker asks

me to say that tonight the order of business will be, _first_, the

election of officers; _second_, the reception of the resolutions from

the Committee on Resolutions; and _third_, special reports from the

States--this to continue tomorrow if necessary.

Another suggestion: If any of you have anything to be read from the

platform, please put it in such form that it can be read properly and

understood clearly. We had an example of misunderstanding this morning,

which I regret; and I want to advertise the papers of this city by

asking you to read the report in one of them from which you will see the

results of that misunderstanding. Do not blame anybody; these things

come. Do not blame the ladies of this State for any misunderstanding. I

have had too many thousands of womanly women in my classes at the

university and elsewhere (and I married one of the most lovely women in

the world), and I have too much faith in women to blame them. I blame

myself for trying to read a statement which I had not had the time to

look at. Let a thing like that not come into this Congress again. Blame

no one.

Thereupon Governor Eberhart, for President Baker, declared a recess

until 8 oclock p.m.

_CLOSING SESSION_

The Congress was called to order by President Baker in the Auditorium,

Saint Paul, at 8 oclock p.m., September 8.

President BAKER--Ladies and Gentlemen: The first business in order is

action on the report of the Nominating Committee, to be followed by

action on the report of the Resolutions Committee. While waiting for

these reports we should be glad to hear from some of the States.

Washington made a special request to be heard. Is the Gentleman from the

State of Washington present?

[There was no response.]

W. S. HARVEY--Mr President: In the absence of the representative of

Washington, may the Delegation from the Keystone State, Pennsylvania, be

heard at this time?

President BAKER--Colonel Harvey has the floor, and will speak for his

State.

Colonel HARVEY--Mr President and Delegates: On behalf of the

Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, which it is our honor to represent, we

desire to say first of all that no other State in the whole galaxy

constituting our Union of States possesses such great natural resources.

In some, indeed, the resources may be more varied, but in none are they

of such productive and wealth-creating capacity as in Pennsylvania.

Pennsylvania leads all other States in the production of coal, the value

of our annual output reaching approximately $325,000,000 per annum. In

the value of its petroleum, natural gas, clay products, and pig iron it

has no close second. The annual value of our petroleum production is

about $18,000,000, and of our natural gas about the same, while the

value of our pig-iron production reaches about $235,000,000; of our

clays it might be said we have scarcely begun to develop them, yet the

value of our clay product is more than $20,000,000 yearly. We are among

the leading States in the production of cement, roofing-slate, lime, and

building stone. Among our other mineral products are graphite, glass

sand, mineral waters, metallic paints, mortar colors, and ochre. It will

doubtless surprise many to learn that in the year 1907 the total value

of all of the mineral products of all of the States west of the

Mississippi was more than $100,000,000 less than the value of the

mineral products of Pennsylvania for the same year; and that the value

of our mineral products in the same year was equal to almost one-third

of the entire value of all of the mineral products of the United States,

including Alaska. This also includes gold and silver.

We have thus far spoken only of our mineral resources, but when we add

to this our magnificent resources in agriculture (one of our counties

leading all others in the United States in the value of its agricultural

products), of our timber and our water-power, and more important still,

a population second only to that of the Empire State and nearly equal to

Canada, it is apparent that we should be vitally interested in the

subject of Conservation; and we beg now to be permitted to mention what

has been and now is being done along this line:

Our State has for many years had a Forestry Department with a

Commissioner and a Forest Reservation Commission, who have purchased for

the creation of State forest reserves and paid for up to September 1,

1910, 918,529 acres of land at a cost of $2,061,872.45 or an average of

$2.25 per acre, and have under contract for purchase about 50,000 acres

more. The State also has established nurseries for seedlings, and has

turned out thus far 2,500,000; next spring the increased capacity of

these nurseries will turn out about 6,000,000 seedlings, and we hope and

expect to be in a position within a few years to turn out 20,000,000

each year. These seedlings are being used for reforestation on the State

reservations and other lands that have been cut over or denuded, and in

time will produce forests from which the State will derive a large

revenue. The State has also established a Forest Academy, for which

appropriations amounting to $96,000 have been made; 39 students have

been graduated, all of whom, with the exception of two, are now in the

employ of the State; 30 students are maintained in the academy; and the

course is three years, 10 students being admitted each year. The State

has also made provision for protection against, and the extinguishing

of, forest fires, and the sum of $245,000 has been appropriated for this

purpose. The State has appropriated for maintenance and administration

of forest reserves since they were first created the sum of $877,142. In

addition to the foresters employed, 41 in number, the State employs 116

rangers and a large labor force.

One of the most important Conservation movements entered into by our

State has been the conserving of the health of its citizens by

protecting from pollution, through a Water Commission and the State

Board of Health, the waterways of the entire Commonwealth. Human life

and its preservation from disease and impairment of usefulness and its

loss of producing power is the most fundamental of all subjects of

Conservation. Pennsylvania has also set an example that we sincerely

trust may be followed by every other State wherein forest reserves can

be created, by establishing camps for tuberculosis patients, where those

who are unable to provide the necessary expense to be cared for in

private institutions and in climatically suitable locations can be cared

for by the State. Since 1907 Pennsylvania has appropriated to the State

Department of Health for the construction of suitable buildings and

camps for the treatment of tuberculosis on the reservations of the

State, $3,000,000. The sanitarium established at Mount Alto has treated

3,301 patients, and 115 dispensaries established throughout the State

have treated 32,247 patients. The present enrollment at Mount Alto is

nearly 800, and of dispensary patients 9,000. This work is under the

supervision of the distinguished and capable gentleman at the head of

our Health Department, Dr Samuel G. Dixon. The movement for the

establishment of tuberculosis camps was inaugurated by Dr J. T. Rothrock

about twenty years ago, and his name with that of others who have been

influential in this work for the cause of humanity and the conservation

of health and happiness will continue to be honored in our State.

Pennsylvania also makes much larger appropriations than any other State

in the Union for its general hospitals, furnishing free of cost the best

surgical and medical skill to those who are unable to pay for the same,

thus saving many lives as well as adding to the bread-winning capacity

of every community.

Our Department of Mines is doing a good work in trying to make more

secure the lives of the miners and their occupation less hazardous. Our

system of factory inspection is doing much to protect the lives of our

workers in mills and factories, and the topographic and geologic survey

commission of our State is also carrying on a most important work in the

conservation and development of our natural resources.

Pennsylvania has a Forestry Association that has been in continued

active existence for 23 years. Its membership extends to every county in

the State, and it has taken the initiative and been the organizer and

promoter of the measures that caused the creation by the State of forest

reserves and a Forestry Commission; and its members have been largely

instrumental, through the earnest, persistent, public-spirited devotion

to measures and methods, in educating the people not only of

Pennsylvania but of other States to appreciate the value and merits of

conserving all our natural resources; and what Pennsylvania has done has

helped in no small degree to develop conditions that have made possible

the present nation-wide movement for Conservation. (Applause)

The State of Pennsylvania has in the above brief statement shown the

practical interest it has had for years and will continue to have in the

subject of Conservation; and we earnestly assure this Congress of the

hearty support and cooperation of the Keystone State in this great

cause.

Respectfully submitted, on behalf of the State of Pennsylvania, by Wm.

S. Harvey, G. W. McNees, and Joseph C. Righter. (Applause)

* * * * *

President BAKER--Ladies and Gentlemen: We wish to give everybody a

chance to speak, and I am willing to stay here all night and all day

tomorrow. We shall have some very important business in a few minutes.

It might be well under the Call of the States, for speakers to be

limited to five minutes (applause). Is that your pleasure? All in favor

of a five minute rule will please say "Aye."

[Many voices: "Aye."]

President BAKER--Are any opposed? (After a pause) It is carried

unanimously.

A DELEGATE--Mr President: I move you that the States be called in

alphabetic order. It will save confusion, prevent Delegates from rising

in all parts of the house, and expedite business.

The motion was seconded, put, and carried without dissent.

Mr E. W. ROSS (of Olympia, Washington)--Mr Chairman: Nobody in this part

of the house knows what is going on. What is the question before the

house?

President BAKER--The question before the house just now was on the

motion that the States be called in alphabetic order, which was carried;

and the Call of the States is now in order.

Mr ROSS--We have expected, since 9:30 oclock this morning, to have the

States called in alphabetic order. What is the use in talking to

Delegates now about calling the States in alphabetic order at 9 oclock

on next to the last day of this Congress? This is the first time since I

have attended this Congress that I have heard the Delegates vote on

something which pertained to their own proceedings. (Confusion on the

floor) Who brought this anyway? Are we to sit here day after day like a

flock of cattle and--

President BAKER--The Gentleman is out of order.

Mr ROSS--I have traveled two thousand miles, and I had something to say

on a proposition germane to what was going on at the time, and I was

informed that there would be a time later and a motion was put here and

voted on that at 8:30 this morning the States would be called--

President BAKER--The officers were here at 8:30, but there were no

Delegates.

Mr ROSS--It is now 9 oclock and you talk about--

President BAKER--We were ready at 8:30 this morning.

Mr ROSS--I was here and the representative of the State of Washington--

President BAKER--Washington was twice called.

Mr ROSS--And he has been--

President BAKER--You are out of order.

Mr ROSS--Has been sitting on the rostrum there since 8 oclock this

morning, and he hasn't been heard yet!

President BAKER (rapping on the table)--The Gentleman is out of order.

Is the Chair sustained?

Many Voices: Yes.

A DELEGATE--Mr President: I make the point of order that the Committee

on Nominations was to report immediately after 8 oclock this evening. I

therefore call for the previous question and ask that the election of

officers proceed.

President BAKER--The Committee will be ready to report in a few minutes.

Mr ROSS--Mr Chairman--

President BAKER--You are out of order.

Mr ROSS--The gag rule is trying to be enforced, and I appeal to this

Congress. That is what we have had from the beginning to the end. Put on

your gag rule, and we will go home and never forget it--(Calls from the

floor: "Order, order!")

President BAKER--Will the house be in order?

Mr ROSS--Put the screws down, the harder you do it the greater the

recoil and the rebound, and the boomerang will hit you in the end--

President BAKER--The Chairman of the Committee on Nominations will now

report: Professor Condra.

Mr ROSS--And I want to say now that when Theodore Roosevelt occupied the

platform, myself and 200 delegates walked to the front door and we

knocked and we knocked and we knocked--

Many Voices: "You are out of order!"

Mr ROSS--and I am tired of the way things have been going on; the

representative of the State of Washington has been sitting on that

rostrum since 8:30 this morning waiting for the States to be called and

the States were--

A DELEGATE--Mr President: I call for the report.

Professor CONDRA--Mr President, and Ladies and Gentlemen: In this

committee work we have tried to do our best for the interests of

Conservation throughout the whole country for next year and the ensuing

years. No member of this committee has been unduly influenced or has any

axe to grind whatever (applause)--

[Mr Ross interrupts, and momentary confusion ensues]

Professor CONDRA--As to the Delegates that tried to gain admission to

our room this evening, that is a closed chapter and our report is

without bias and we hope it will receive your approval (applause). We

thought of nominating for the Presidency of the Congress, among others,

two persons now on this platform. We consulted them, and they both said

it would be better to place in nomination another. One of the two men

whom we first thought of nominating is Captain White, the other is

Gifford Pinchot. The Committee will ask the former to nominate the

President, and the latter to second the nomination. (Applause)

Captain WHITE--Mr President, Ladies and Gentlemen, and Delegates to this

Congress: It is a pleasure that comes to man but seldom in life when he

can do a great benefit to a people; even if it involves a sacrifice, it

is often a pleasure to do it. I did not wish to have my name mentioned,

as it has been (nor did I know that it would be), as a possible nominee

for the Presidency of this honorable body, nor did I know that my friend

Mr Pinchot's name would be mentioned; but in thinking it over, after we

were consulted, we both felt like influencing the Nominating Committee

to do what was best for the country, this organization, and for all the

State associations. The great back-bone of this country is the farming

element. It is the farmers who make the country, and to them we must

look for prosperity, and when they are prosperous and contented the

country is prosperous and the people are happy. So, to that department

of Conservation we have looked for a man to act as President of this

organization--one who would be satisfactory to the farmers. We found the

right man. We are going to put in nomination to this Congress a man in

whom there is no guile, who is not only well known in this country but

who has international fame; a man who has published for many years one

of the largest, if not the largest, of farm journals in the country; one

who was appointed by President Roosevelt as a member of the Country Life

Commission, who has lived close to the farmer, who has done perhaps more

than any man in his community, making greater sacrifices according to

his ability; who has made speeches on many platforms, and during a long

life has worked earnestly for the benefit of humanity. I take pleasure

in nominating for the Presidency that prince of men, Mr Henry Wallace,

of Des Moines. (Great applause)

Mr GIFFORD PINCHOT--Ladies and Gentlemen: I pray your indulgence for a

moment while I try to say a little of what I think about "Uncle Henry"

Wallace. I call him "Uncle Henry" for the best of all reasons--that when

a man has reached his age in a life of usefulness, he becomes, in a

sense, the forebear of all the rest of us, and our affectionate esteem

naturally expresses itself in calling him "Uncle"; and I say "Uncle

Henry" Wallace because I love him. (Applause) I want to add, too, an

expression of my highest respect for his character, for his achievement,

and, above all, for his breadth of view, which covers intelligently and

fully every interest for which this Conservation Congress stands. Mr

Wallace lives in the center of the country; his main attention has been

given to our central industry. His advice and assistance have been

poured forth freely for that class of citizens among us all who have the

most to do with the fundamental occupation of conserving the earth and

making it forever fruitful; and I deem it to be a most fitting

nomination that the Committee has laid before you in suggesting his

name.

Before I sit down I want, with your permission, to say a word, also

about Captain White. Captain White and Mr Wallace stand together in my

mind as two of the finest types of ripened American citizens (applause).

I am proud to say that I believe I enjoy the friendship of both. I have

been associated with Captain White for many years in Conservation work.

He was one of the first of the lumbermen--the very first of the

lumbermen, I believe--to take an earnest and effective and active

interest in Conservation. It was to his lands that the first class from

one of the great forest schools went to study lumbering and forestry on

the ground; and at every point his helpful, wise, and effective

assistance has been given to the movement for which this great Congress

stands. I know that Mr Wallace will not mind my interjecting remarks

about another man in seconding his nomination, however irregular it may

appear. I wanted to say (and this is the only chance I have) what I

think of Captain White; and I want to add that I shall make only one

suggestion to Mr Wallace, if he is elected, and he will accept it or not

as he pleases; but I shall certainly advise him to keep Captain White as

Chairman of the Executive Committee. (Applause)

Mr President, I take the greatest pleasure in seconding the nomination

of Mr Wallace. (Applause)

A DELEGATE--Mr President: I move that the rules be suspended, and that

Mr Wallace be elected by acclamation.

The motion was seconded, put, and declared unanimously carried.

Mr BAKER--It gives me very great honor, Mr President Wallace, to present

to you the gavel. No man will do more, to the extent of his ability, in

supporting your administration and carrying it forward to success.

(Applause)

President WALLACE--Mr Baker, and Ladies and Gentlemen: Believe me, this

is the greatest surprise of my life. No one had said a word to me about

it until a few moments before I came into this room. I believe that if I

had had time to think of it I would have declined, but in an unguarded

moment, I said if the unanimous choice of this Congress I would do my

best to serve you. I know I am undertaking a very great work; I know I

shall need all the help of your wisest counsels. I shall probably make

mistakes. The man who makes no mistakes is the man who does nothing

(applause). I have made mistakes in other undertakings. It is a rule of

my life not to mourn over the irreparable past, but to make the best out

of the available future (applause); to do one day's work well, and be

ready if possible to embrace the opportunities that may come tomorrow.

Now, I feel conscious of my inability to act as President of your

organization. I have studiously avoided such offices in the past; I have

studiously avoided taking office of any kind or class; but this having

been forced upon me, and the offer coming utterly without my

knowledge--without a whisper of it, in fact--it gives me an opportunity

of service which I will do my best to meet. I shall have to ask you to

excuse me from serving tonight, for I am leaving on a train in a very

short time. I shall ask you to wait, if I have the Executive Committee

to appoint (as I am told I have), until I have time to study this

Conservation movement from the organization's side. I shall make the

best selections I can; I will do the very best that lies in me, and that

is all that any man can do. (Applause)

I want to say to you that if there have been any factions in this

organization, I know nothing of them (applause). I have no part in them.

I believe in the Conservation of the resources of the country. I believe

that if this is to be done wisely we must imagine ourselves in the

position of the men who have differences of opinion here. I realize that

the Western people have peculiar difficulties; I realize that their

position must be studied from their standpoint (applause)--that

whatever help may be given them for the solution of their problems must

be given; and if I am to be President of this organization, I will be

President of a National organization (applause), and I will know no

State (renewed applause), no faction, no party (renewed applause); and,

so far as I am concerned, there will be no politics (great applause) in

this association.

I thank you for this unexpected and unsolicited honor, and I accept it

as an opportunity to serve the American people in this generation and

perform a service which will be beneficial to generations yet unborn

(applause); for I believe that the mission of this Nation is not to

build great cities, not to be a world-power, not to amass wealth untold,

but to develop character (applause) and manhood that can stand facing

all the storms that blow, that can solve the problems as they come--a

manhood that owes its highest obedience not to laws made by mortal man

but to the laws made for human guidance by Almighty God. (Applause)

Professor CONDRA--Mr President, and Ladies and Gentlemen: Your Committee

nominate for Executive Secretary Thomas R. Shipp (applause), for

Recording Secretary James C. Gipe, and for Treasurer D. Austin Latchaw.

I move the election of these nominees.

President WALLACE--It is moved that Thomas R. Shipp be elected Executive

Secretary. Is that motion seconded?

The motion was seconded from all parts of the house.

President WALLACE--It is moved and seconded that Thomas R. Shipp be

chosen Executive Secretary. Are there any remarks?

(Calls of "Question, question!")

Mr ROSS--Mr Chairman: I would like to have a little information on that

subject. I would like to inquire whether Mr Shipp occupies any position

of trust or profit in the way of emolument under the United States or

any State government?

(Calls of "Question!" "Regular order!" "Order!")

President WALLACE--The Chair is unable to give the Gentleman any

information on that subject. The question is called for. All in favor,

signify by saying "Aye." (Hundreds of voices: "Aye.") Contrary "No."

(Pause.) The motion is carried.

VOICES--"Shipp, Shipp!"

Mr ROSS--Mr Chairman--

President WALLACE--Has the Gentleman a motion to make?

Mr ROSS--I was recognized by the Chair and the previous question has not

yet been voted upon.

President WALLACE--Has the Gentleman any motion to make the order of

business?

Mr ROSS--I rise to a point of order. I have the floor. The Chairman

recognized me and the previous question has not yet been voted. I ask

for a matter of information.

President WALLACE--The Chair has no information to give except that the

Gentleman is out of order.

Mr ROSS--I ask if Mr Shipp occupies a position or employment in any

capacity for the United States Government or any State or Territory.

President WALLACE--I don't know. The motion was duly put and was

carried.

VOICE--"He is out of order."

President WALLACE--He is. The next nominee is James C. Gipe for

Recording Secretary.

Mr ROSS--Does the Chair rule that I am out of order?

President WALLACE--I have, several times.

Mr ROSS--Thank you, sir. That is the cap sheaf.

President WALLACE--Is there a second to the nomination of Mr Gipe for

Recording Secretary?

The nomination was seconded.

President WALLACE--Are there remarks on that question?

Many DELEGATES--"Question."

The motion was put and carried, and Mr Gipe was declared unanimously

elected Recording Secretary.

President WALLACE--The Committee also recommend the election of D. A.

Latchaw for Treasurer. Is there a second to the motion for his election?

(The motion was seconded.) Any remarks on the motion?

VOICES--"Question."

The motion was put and carried, and Mr Latchaw was declared elected

Treasurer.

Delegate HUNT--Mr President: The District of Columbia moves a vote of

thanks to the Nominating Committee who have done their work so well and

so pleasingly to this Congress.

The motion received a second, and was put and unanimously carried.

Mr ROSS--Will the Chairman please announce what the motion is? We didn't

hear a word of it here.

The DELEGATE--That a vote of thanks be tendered to the Nominating

Committee for the work which they have done so well and satisfactorily

to this Congress.

Mr ROSS--Mr Chairman, I second that motion. (Laughter)

Colonel FLEMING JONES (of New Mexico)--Mr President: I understand that

Governor Pardee is about to submit the report of the Committee on

Resolutions, and I have a resolution here which I should like to see

embodied in the report.

Mr ROSS--The Gentleman from New Mexico is out of order.

President WALLACE--The Chair thinks the resolution out of order.

Delegate HARDTNER (of Louisiana)--Mr President: I move you that the

rules be suspended for the purpose of permitting Colonel Fleming Jones

to submit his resolution.

Delegate DYE (of Indiana)--I second the motion.

The motion being duly put and carried, Colonel W. A. Fleming Jones

submitted the following:

_Resolved_, That this Congress express its grateful appreciation of the

highly intelligent, unselfish, and successful services of its first

President, Mr Bernard N. Baker, of Maryland. Through his untiring effort

and his purpose to bring into consultation all the interests of

Conservation, the Congress has resulted in a meeting that will be

historic in the records of American progress and achievement.

Being formally put, the resolution was adopted unanimously and

enthusiastically.

Mr BAKER--Mr President: I wish to express my appreciation, and to have

it show in the Proceedings. I have not taken one moment to present

anything in which I was directly interested. I thank you very much.

(Applause)

President WALLACE--We will now hear from the Committee on Resolutions.

Governor PARDEE--Mr President, Ladies and Gentlemen: As Chairman of the

Committee on Resolutions I have been ordered and directed by a majority

of the Committee--some 26 or 27 out of about 30 present at the last

session of the Committee--to present the following report, as the report

of the majority in the proportions I have mentioned:

RESOLUTIONS OF THE SECOND NATIONAL CONSERVATION CONGRESS

The Second National Conservation Congress, made up of Delegates from all

sections and nearly every State and Territory of the United States, met

at the call of a great moral issue (applause), now in session assembled

in the city of Saint Paul and State of Minnesota, does hereby adopt and

solemnly declare the following platform of opinion and conclusion

concerning the inherent rights of the People of the United States:

Heartily accepting the spirit and intent of the Constitution and

adhering to the principles laid down by Washington and Lincoln, we

declare our conviction that we live under a Government of the People, by

the People, for the People; and we repudiate any and all special or

local interests or platforms or policies in conflict with the inherent

rights and sovereign will of our People. (Great applause)

Recognizing the natural resources of the country as the prime basis of

property and opportunity, we hold the rights of the People in these

resources to be natural and inherent, and justly inalienable and

indefeasible (applause); and we insist that the resources should and

shall be developed, used, and conserved in ways consistent both with

current welfare and with the perpetuity of our People. (Applause)

Recognizing the waters of the country as a great National resource, we

approve and endorse the opinion that all the waters belong to all the

People (applause), and hold that they should be administered in the

interest of all the people. (Great applause)

Realizing that all parts of each drainage basin are related and

interdependent, we hold that each stream should be regarded and treated

as a unit from its source to its mouth; and since the waters are

essentially mobile and transitory and are generally interstate, we hold

that in all cases of divided or doubtful jurisdiction the waters should

be administered by cooperation between State and Federal agencies.

(Prolonged applause)

Recognizing the interdependence of the various uses of the waters of the

country, we hold that the primary uses are for domestic supply and for

agriculture through irrigation or otherwise, and that the uses for

navigation and for power, in which water is not consumed, are secondary;

and we commend the modern view that each use of the waters should be

made with reference to all other uses for the public welfare in

accordance with the principle of the greatest good to the greatest

number for the longest time. (Great applause)

Viewing purity of water supply as essential to the public health and

general welfare, we urge upon all municipal, State, and Federal

authorities, and on individuals and corporations, requisite action

toward purifying and preventing contamination of the waters. (Applause)

Approving the successful efforts of the United States to provide homes

on arid lands through irrigation, we indorse and commend the Reclamation

Service (applause) and urge its continuance and the extension of the

same policy to the drainage of swamp and overflow lands, to be carried

forward so far as appropriate through cooperation between State and

Federal agencies. (Great applause)

Viewing adequate and economical transportation facilities as among the

means of Conservation, and realizing that the growth of the country has

exceeded the development of transportation facilities, we approve the

prompt adoption of a comprehensive plan for developing navigation

throughout the rivers and lakes of the United States, proceeding in the

order of their magnitude and commercial importance. (Loud applause)

Recognizing the vast economic benefit to the People of water-power

derived largely from interstate and source streams no less than from

navigable rivers, we favor Federal control of water-power development

(applause); we deny the right of State or Federal governments to

continue alienating or conveying water by granting franchises for the

use thereof in perpetuity (applause); and we demand that the use of

water rights be permitted only for limited periods, with just

compensation in the interests of the People. (Prolonged applause)

We demand the maintenance of a Federal commission empowered to deal with

all uses of the waters and to coordinate these uses for the public

welfare in cooperation with similar commissions or other agencies

maintained by the States. (Loud applause)

Approving the withdrawal of public lands pending classification, and

the separation of surface rights from mineral, forest, and water rights,

including water-power sites (applause), we recommend legislation for the

classification and leasing for grazing purposes of all unreserved public

lands suitable chiefly for this purpose, subject to the rights of

homesteaders and settlers, or the acquisition thereof under the land

laws of the United States; and we hold that arid and non-irrigable

public grazing lands should be administered by the Government in the

interest of small stock-men and homeseekers until they have passed into

the possession of actual settlers. (Applause)

We hold that the deposits of important minerals underlying public lands,

particularly mineral fuels, iron ores, and phosphate deposits, should be

leased for limited periods, not exceeding fifty years, but subject to

renewal, the royalty to be adjusted at more frequent intervals; such

leases to be in amounts and subject to such regulations as to prevent

monopoly and unnecessary waste. (Applause)

We hold that phosphate deposits underlying the public lands should be

safeguarded for the American People by appropriate legislation; and we

recommend the early opening of the Alaskan and other coal fields

belonging to the People of the United States for commercial purposes on

a system of leasing, National ownership to be retained. (Applause)

We urge immediate investigation by the Federal Government of the damage

done by the smelting of copper ores, and the feasibility of so improving

methods as to utilize the injurious by-products in connection with

phosphatic fertilizers.

We favor cooperative action on the part of States and the Federal

Government looking to the preservation and better utilization of the

soils by approved scientific methods. (Applause)

We approve the continuance of the control of the National Forests by the

Federal Government (applause), and approve the policy of restoring to

settlement such public lands as are more valuable for agriculture. We

earnestly recommend that the States and Federal Government acquire for

reforestation lands not more valuable for other purposes, and that all

existing forests publicly and privately owned be carefully protected by

State and Federal governments. We recognize the invaluable services of

the Forest Service to the People (applause), and earnestly recommend

that it be more generously supported by the Federal Government, and that

State, Federal, and private fire patrol be more generously provided for

the preservation of forests and human life; and we appreciate and

approve of the continuance of the services of the United States Army in

fire control in emergencies.

We favor the repeal of the Timber and Stone Law. (Applause)

We endorse the proposition for the preservation by the Federal

Government of the Southern Appalachian and White Mountain forests.

We recommend that the Federal Government conserve migratory birds and

wild game animals.

We recommend that both public and private schools instruct the youth of

the land in the fundamental doctrines of Conservation.

We realize that the fullest enjoyment of our natural resources depends

on the life and development of the people physically, intellectually,

and morally; and in order to promote this, we recommend that the

training and protection of the people, and whatever pertains to the

public health and general efficiency, be encouraged by methods and

legislation suitable to this end. Child labor should be prevented and

child life protected and developed.

Realizing the waste of life in transportation and mining operations, we

recommend legislation increasing the use of proper safeguards for the

conservation of life; and we also recommend that in order to make better

provision for securing the health of the Nation a department of public

health be established by the National Government.

We recommend the adequate maintenance of a National Conservation

Commission to investigate the natural resources of the country and

cooperate with the work of the State conservation commissions; and we

urge the legal establishment and maintenance of conservation commissions

or corresponding agencies on the part of all States of the Union.

Nothing in these resolutions is to be construed as questioning the

rights of the States or the People of the United States guaranteed under

the Federal Constitution.[2] (Prolonged applause)

* * * * *

Governor PARDEE--Mr President: Again reminding you that this is a

majority report, and that the Committee were told that a minority report

would be presented (and I am looking directly at the member of the

Committee who gave this intimation), I move you that the report just

read be adopted as the voice of this Congress.

Mr G. M. HUNT--Mr President, the District of Columbia seconds the

motion of the Chairman of the Committee.

Mr FRANK H. SHORT (of California)--Mr President: In view of the remark

that there was to be a minority report presented to this Congress, I

think, perhaps, I should say, on behalf of those who have been referred

to as the minority (who may be "insurgents" some day) that in view of

the provision in the resolutions that nothing shall be construed as

contrary to the Constitution of the United States, we do not offer any

amendment. We think that no person in this country is entitled to

anything that does not belong to him under the Constitution and the law,

and we don't think he should ever be offered anything else; and we

suppose, if a conflict should arise, that the Constitution will prevail.

A DELEGATE--Pennsylvania rises to second the motion to adopt the

resolutions as read.

A DELEGATE--Mr President: As a Delegate from the State of Illinois, I

rise to second the motion.

President WALLACE--All in favor of the adoption of these resolutions as

read will say "Aye." (A chorus of "ayes.") Contrary, "Nay." (There were

no negative votes.) The resolutions are declared adopted.

Mr ROSS--Mr Chairman--

President WALLACE--We will hear you.

Mr ROSS--That is all I want, that you should hear me. In view of the

fact that this report is presented and heard by the Delegates at this

late hour for the first time, and in view of the fact that the report of

the Committee on Resolutions and the action of the Congress thereon is

all-important and the final result of such a Congress, and in view of

the fact that we are to meet tomorrow morning at 10 oclock or half-past,

or whatever time it is, I move you, Mr Chairman, that action upon this

report be deferred until the convening of this Congress tomorrow

morning, in order that the Delegates may be able to read the report,

section by section, as it may appear in the newspapers tomorrow

morning--

President WALLACE--The Gentleman is out of order.

Mr ROSS--So we can act intelligently.

President WALLACE--The Gentleman is out of order. The resolutions have

already been adopted.

Mr ROSS--Mr Chairman, the motion is made. Will somebody second my

motion? I will see if I am out of order.

Mr JOHNS (of Washington)--Mr President: I move to lay the motion on the

table. I am from the State of Washington and glory in it, but I do not

glory in some of the men that the Governor appointed.

The motion to table was seconded, put, and carried with one dissenting

voice.

President WALLACE--What is the further business before the Congress? Are

there any other committees to report?

Professor CONDRA--Mr President, and Ladies and Gentlemen: We have

neglected one matter of business, and with your permission (at the

request of those who have noticed it) I will read the names of the

Vice-Presidents selected by State Delegations.

Mr ROSS--Mr Chairman: That is what we expected at 8:30 oclock this

morning. It is now twenty minutes past 9. I move you that leave to print

be extended to the various Vice-Presidents and those designated by

States, and if they can succeed in getting their written speeches

printed in the record possibly we will have a chance to read them.

Delegate HORR (of Washington)--Mr President, I have a request to make:

that when you print the address read by Lieutenant-Governor (and Acting

Governor) Hay, of Washington, you also print, right with it, the

dispatch from C. B. Kegley, representing 20,000 Grangers, and also the

dispatch from Charles R. Case, representing the organized labor of

Washington, both approving the Federal policies of Conservation. I make

that as a request coming, as I believe, from the majority of the

patriotic citizens of the State of Washington. (Applause)

Professor CONDRA--Mr President, just a moment. This list of

Vice-Presidents selected by State Delegations is not the Call of States;

we will come to that in a few minutes. The reports by State Delegations

might be turned over to the Secretary who will ask that it be printed in

the papers in the morning. A few States have not yet sent in the names

of their Vice-Presidents, so that the list is not quite complete.

A DELEGATE--Read the list.

President WALLACE--Let us hear the list read.

A DELEGATE--Mr Chairman, I rise to a point of order. The report of the

Nominating Committee is the special order at this hour. Having begun on

nominations, they should continue until they are closed. The States

should be called upon to name their Vice-Presidents. (Applause)

Professor CONDRA--Mr President, if agreeable I will read the names which

we have. Reads list.[3]

President WALLACE--Shall we vote on these Vice-Presidents selected by

the Delegates from the different States? All who favor the selections

will please say "Aye" (Pause). Any opposed will say "No" (Pause). The

selections are approved unanimously.

Mr Pinchot wishes to offer a resolution that you will all agree to.

Mr PINCHOT--_Whereas_, Professor Samuel B. Green, Dean of the School of

Forestry in the University of Minnesota, and for twenty-two years a

teacher in the State Agricultural College, has recently been called to

his reward; and

_Whereas_, Professor Green for years ranked as one of the most prominent

and progressive instructors in Forestry, and has been a great force in

the cause of developing and conserving our National resources; therefore

be it

_Resolved_, That in the death of Professor Green the State of Minnesota

and the Nation have lost a distinguished citizen, and the cause of

Forestry one of its most valuable assets.

President WALLACE--Let us take a rising vote. All in favor of the

resolution please rise. It is unanimously carried.

We are now ready for the Call of the States.

The States were then called alphabetically, whereupon the following

responded:

Mr A. H. PURDUE (of Arkansas)--As regards Arkansas and Conservation, I

will say that that subject with us is not a burning question. People are

not yet clamoring for Conservation. Nevertheless, the movement set on

foot by those who are promoting it is making itself felt among us, and

the thoughtful people of the State are giving it their attention.

Mr O. B. BANNISTER (of Indiana)--I will not take five minutes. I first

want to appeal to your spirit of fairness, and express the hope that at

the next National Conservation Congress you will not ask Delegates to

wait until the eleventh hour of the last day of the Convention.

(Applause)

Indiana is represented here by fourteen Delegates. We have spent about

$2500 to attend this Congress (applause). We have sat here for four

solid days and attended every single session, and heard the history of

things from the birth of our Saviour down to 1908, when Theodore

Roosevelt called the Governors together for Conservation, but up to this

moment we have not been heard or given an opportunity to talk at all

(applause). I just want to call your attention to that fact. I have only

had three and a half minutes, and I am perfectly willing that the next

speaker shall have my allotted minute and a half. (Applause)

President WALLACE--The President will say that if you live until the

next Congress, and I preside over it, you will all have a chance to make

your speeches as early in the meeting as possible. (Applause)

Mr BANNISTER--Mr President: It is not a question of speeches; it is a

question of voting and being considered as the rank and file, if you

please, of this organization.

Mr A. C. MILLER (of Iowa)--The report of the Iowa State Delegation is in

the hands of the Secretary.[4]

Mr YOUNG (of Kansas)--Our report has been filed with the Secretary.

President WALLACE--Ladies and Gentlemen: I am obliged to leave for my

train, and I will ask Captain White to act as Presiding officer. (The

audience rose as Mr Wallace withdrew.)

Mr BERNARD N. BAKER (of Maryland)--I just want to say "Thank you," for

Maryland, for the opportunity of being here.

Mr FREEMAN THORP (of Minnesota)--Mr Chairman, a way has been found (not

theoretically but practically and demonstrably) whereby the time of the

growth of forest trees is reduced to one-half. The Secretary of

Agriculture, Mr Wilson, who merely hinted at this in the last paragraph

of his speech the other day, will give you the exact information in

detail in his bulletins this winter. It is not a theory or wild guess.

It has been demonstrated, only 150 miles from where you sit. There are

thousands of trees there, some 11 inches in diameter, grown from seed in

fifteen years (applause). There are shown at the Minnesota State Fair

today products of the soil grown upon the lightest sandy soils that we

have in the State, during the greatest drought ever known, and the corn

is as large as any in the State, and the clover superior (applause).

This simply shows the new force and new instrumentality which will be at

our hands in the great work of Conservation. I will not take your time

longer because the information will be given you this winter in

bulletins from the Department of Agriculture at Washington. (Applause)

Dr E. N. LOWE (of Mississippi)--Mr Chairman and Fellow Delegates: We

from Mississippi have come here to be heard on Conservation and to learn

about Conservation. We are interested in the subject. We have made some

progress along the lines of Conservation. I wish to say that the most

enthusiastic Conservationist in the State of Mississippi is our Chief

Executive, Governor Noel. Practically all that has been done in

Conservation in Mississippi has been instigated and encouraged by him.

We are at the present time engaged in the study of our soil in

cooperation with the Bureau of Soils at Washington. The work has been in

progress since December last, and will be prosecuted as rapidly as

possible. We have four parties in the field at the present time. In

addition to our soil resources we have, in the southern half of

Mississippi, a large pine forest; the virgin forest has been depleted

very rapidly, and we are realizing the necessity of investigation along

that line.

General NOBLE (of Missouri)--Mr Chairman: I have been appointed to

attend this Congress as a Delegate from the Trans-Mississippi Commercial

Congress, and also as a Delegate from Missouri. I have been associated

in the Trans-Mississippi Commercial Congress with Mr Larimore, of

Larimore, North Dakota. We were instructed by the President of the

Trans-Mississippi Congress to present an invitation to this Congress,

which was put in the form of a resolution. I want to say that the

Trans-Mississippi Commercial Congress has been in existence for more

than twenty years. It has been my privilege and honor to attend many of

its different sessions, and I speak whereof I know when I say that it

has been one of the most influential bodies in the western country for

the advancement of western interests, including among others, the great

proposition of the Conservation of our natural resources for the people.

Now, I wish to present this resolution: (Reading)

"_Whereas_, the Trans-Mississippi Commercial Congress has for its

purpose the inauguration and advocacy of great National policies, and

has for many years been a friend of the beneficent and progressive

Conservation of our natural resources, and that Congress is to meet at

San Antonio, Texas, on the twenty-second to twenty-fifth days of

November next; therefore--

"_Resolved_, That the present Congress at Saint Paul does hereby

earnestly request the National Conservation Association, by its

President, to select and send to the approaching session of the

Trans-Mississippi Congress a delegation of such members as he may deem

best (say forty in number), to advocate the cooperation of that body in

support of the measures here approved."

I move you, Mr President, that that resolution be adopted as a

recommendation of this Congress. You can get no better cooperator and

successful worker for Conservation in any portion of this country; so

help us to carry into effect the great purposes of this Congress, the

Conservation of our natural resources. (Applause)

The CHAIRMAN--Gentlemen, you have heard the resolution.

A DELEGATE--I move that the same be adopted.

The CHAIRMAN--It has been moved and seconded that the resolution be

adopted. Are there any remarks?

A DELEGATE--I move that it be referred to the Executive Committee for

such action as they see fit, to be reported tomorrow morning.

The CHAIRMAN--The Committee on Resolutions has made its report. This

resolution is in order, because it was offered by the Gentleman from

Missouri as part of his remarks, and it has been moved and seconded that

it be adopted. An amendment has been offered, which was also seconded,

that it be referred to the Executive Committee. Are you ready to vote on

the amendment?

A DELEGATE--It was not put in the form of an amendment; it was put as a

distinct motion.

The CHAIRMAN--Two motions cannot be entertained at once.

General NOBLE--Mr Chairman: May I explain that this is merely a

recommendation to the Association. It is not a resolution passed by this

Congress to send a delegation; it is a recommendation by this Congress

to the body called the National Conservation Association, to act on it

or not as they please.

The CHAIRMAN--Gentlemen, we will vote on the original question. All

those who are in favor of adopting the resolution as read by General

Noble will say "Aye." (The resolution was adopted)

Professor CONDRA--Would it not be in order to hear from the Executive

Committee relative to the work in Missouri? I would ask that you grant

to Chairman White a minute or two to respond for that State. (Applause)

Chairman WHITE--Gentlemen: I will not take much time, as it is getting

late. I may say that Missouri does not have to be "shown."

On behalf of the Executive Committee, let me say this: We have had a

pretty hard time in trying to satisfy everybody. I wish to apologize for

any shortcomings on the part of President Baker and myself. I was

Chairman of the Executive Committee, and had a great deal to do in

trying to frame a program that would be satisfactory to every Delegate

and everybody else who attended the Congress; but it was a hard thing to

do. The President of the United States and the ex-President of the

United States occupied two distinct days, and drew great crowds in

opposition to the State Fair; since then the Fair has been doing

business in opposition to this Congress. Then we had the Governors here,

and other great speakers; and the program had to be carried out. I wish

to say that this organization will remain in session tomorrow if, at the

close of this session, you so desire. I am going to stay here; I have

authority to act as President protem tomorrow, and President Baker will

also stay with me, and we will gladly do all the good we can.

Delegate VON TOBEL (of Montana)--Montana has filed a report.

Professor CONDRA--For Nebraska, I will speak briefly:

I have had the very great privilege and honor of being connected with a

Nebraska State Commission for eighteen or twenty years. We have a great

variety of resources, mostly agricultural. He who says Nebraska is a

poor agricultural spot does not know; he who thinks Nebraska is a

sand-hill region does not know. In Nebraska there are four great soil

regions. Some of them are very fertile; some 40,000 square miles are

unusually fertile, the land values ranging from $100 to $200 per acre.

We have 18,000 square miles of land worth from $1.00 to $5.00 per acre.

I am not going to take the time to tell you just how good and how bad

Nebraska really is; there is enough of it that is especially good.

We have a number of problems that should be taken up in the way of

Conservation, and we have undertaken to do it. We have irrigation, dry

farming, forestation of sandhills and the like; also conservation of

soil fertility, and the conservation of lands. Our Commission is

non-political; and I believe all States taking up Conservation problems

should have non-political commissions. We have in Nebraska, working with

the Commission, some ten or twelve committees, with 30 to 40 men at

work, studying the problems of the State. We believe in cooperation and

thorough investigation, and we believe, further, in contributing that

which is suited to those who wish our contributions.

We held a State Congress not long ago in which it was the sentiment, and

was declared by the President of the Congress, "We want at this time

that there may be made no reference to the controversy now waging in the

Nation." And no man on that floor spoke one word pertaining to the

controversy. It was said further that, "We wish at this time that our

work be non-political, that no man will stand here and talk that he may

gain favor, or gain notice in the State, for political purposes;" and

with but one exception no man undertook so to talk, and that man was

stopped immediately (applause). It was also asked that no man take the

floor unless he had a message and facts for the others, such facts as

would be worth something to those attending and those at home.

Such is the spirit of Nebraska. We are not the only State, we cooperate

with others. We have good features and bad; but we want to learn to do

practical things worth while to the farmers, worth while to those who

are laboring, and worth while to all the people in the State. One of our

committees is working on vital resources. We realize that while we grow

wheat and corn for man and beast, we are working chiefly for the

elevation of man; and in Nebraska one thing we will see to is that the

conditions are suitable for crops, for animals, and for man--and we

propose to do our part in conserving the public health, and in looking

to better living conveniences and better water supplies in the State.

I have spoken three minutes, but I ask, since I happen to represent the

Association of Congresses of the various States, that you join with

those commissioners who were in the meeting last night in practical work

in the States, and in the United States, so that when we reassemble we

will have reports from men who are doing practical work. We ask for

reliable cooperation to the end that our investigations will serve as a

basis for action of use to the practical people of our country,

especially the farmers. I thank you. (Applause)

A DELEGATE (from New York)--In the absence of our chairman, the

Delegation from New York would say, in a word, that we are making

progress; that we are with this movement first, last and all the time,

and that we hope at the next Congress there may be opportunity, as

suggested by the gentleman from Indiana, to draw out fuller information

regarding resources from the Delegations who have come from all over the

country. Many of the Delegations have come here at great expense.

Perhaps no one has listened with greater interest to the able speeches

that have been made here than have the Delegates from New York, but we

felt, in a representative organization like this, much in the position

of the man who, in a legislative body, said that whenever they began to

make speeches he went to the committee-room and went to work. We

believed that with combined action (as the Chairman has announced) at

our next meeting we shall have the speeches and at the same time draw

out the resources of the people, and so get down to work and make rapid

progress right along. (Applause)

Delegate R. A. NESTOS (of North Dakota)--Mr Chairman: North Dakota has

the honor of sending the largest number of Delegates to this Congress

with the single exception of Minnesota, which shows that it is very much

interested in the movement of Conservation. North Dakota has more coal

conserved than any other State in the Union. We have thousands of acres

of coal, in seams varying in thickness from 5 to 32 feet of solid coal.

All of our resources, with the exception of coal, are in private hands.

Our great coal fields, during the last Administration, were put in the

hands of the Government, and hereafter no settler can get anything more

than a surface right to those coal fields. The coal belongs to the

Government. Of course we haven't very much use for coal up there, but we

are keeping it. Whenever you get chilly, just raise your hand and we

will send down all kinds of coal for all of the hundreds and thousands

of our people.

Our chief resource is our soil, which, when properly conserved and

developed, can produce one-tenth of the food for this entire Nation with

the present population (applause). We have a larger area perhaps of

fertile soil than any other State. This is all in the hands of private

owners. There is simply one way to conserve our natural resources, and

that is to educate the farmer (applause). There is nothing so cheap as

education, and nothing so costly as ignorance. If our State will put

half a million dollars into the Agricultural College at the next session

of the Legislature, and extend its aid among the different educational

institutions of the State, this money will come back in a hundredfold.

It is in this direction that we must expect to conserve our resources.

The interests of this Nation that lie in private hands are enormously

greater than those controlled either by the State or by the Federal

Government, and it does not seem to me right that we should spend so

much time talking about the rather meager resources of the State and

Nation and neglecting the manifestly greater resources that are in the

hands of private citizens, because, in the last analysis, this matter of

Conservation will be carried out on each and every man's farm. You talk

about establishing a National Forest in North Dakota, and already the

Government has planted a few acres in the Bad Lands; but forests in

North Dakota mean the planting of 10 or 20 acres of quick-growing timber

on each man's farm (applause). In that way North Dakota and similar

States will carry out their part of the movement for Conservation.

Mr GEORGE W. LATTIMORE (of Ohio)--Ohio, with characteristic modesty, has

nothing to say.[5] (Applause)

Mr BENJ. MARTIN (of Oklahoma)--Mr Chairman: I appeared for Oklahoma and

reported this morning to the Chairman, and I ask that the report be

printed in the record.

Mr A. W. KRUEGER (of South Dakota)--Mr Chairman: All of our members who

are speakers have left, and there is no one here from South Dakota

except myself. I am not an orator, so I will not attempt to make a

speech; but when I heard from other States I could not help feeling that

I come from a State that has the richest resources in the world. Our

greatest resources lie in our inexhaustible soil and its fertility. We

have people from most of the States in the Union, and when I have asked

our citizens from several of the eastern States, and other rich States

like Iowa, Minnesota, Ohio, Wisconsin, and Illinois, "Why are you here?"

they said, "Because we have bettered our condition through the State of

South Dakota." So I have come to the conclusion that we must have about

the best State in the Union (laughter). They tell us that we have more

money per capita for our schools than any other State in the Union--but

I do not want to make a speech, for I can't do it (laughter), only to

say that I have had the pleasure and great honor to talk Conservation in

our State, and the longer I am here the more I am convinced that South

Dakota is in hearty accord with the doings of this Congress (applause).

I have not been instructed to say this, but from what our State is

doing, I cannot see how any true and patriotic American citizen who

loves his country, home, and fireside, and who wants to leave them to

his descendants none the worse because he lived in the world, can help

most heartily endorsing the Conservation of our natural resources, such

as forests, natural waterways, water-powers, minerals, coal, oil, and

phosphates by the Federal Government. (Applause)

Mr GEORGE H. EMERSON (of Washington)--Ladies and Gentlemen: I come as

the calm Pacific instead of the cyclone that at times has swept over

this audience. I came prepared with a paper that it was proposed to have

placed before you, but it is not propitious at this late hour, neither

is the temper of the audience such as to receive it, nor is the time

that is allowed me sufficient. I ask, therefore, your permission to file

the same.

The CHAIRMAN--Permission will be given. Washington was called this

morning but the representative was not present, and Ex-President Baker

tells me it was also called again this afternoon.

Two DELEGATES--Mr Chairman--

Chairman WHITE--The Gentleman who addressed the Chair first is

recognized. This Gentleman from Washington (indicating).

Mr WILLIAM DOUGLAS JOHNS (of Washington)--Mr Chairman: I would ask of

the Delegates here three minutes.

The CHAIRMAN--There are just three minutes left, and you can have them.

Mr JOHNS--Mr Chairman: I wish to tell the Delegates here, for the

purpose of showing the necessity of Federal control, how the water-power

sites of the State of Washington--the greatest of them--have passed from

the hands of the State within a few months, under the administration of

Land Commissioner Ross, who has made himself so prominent here this

evening. Two corporations have filed on the lower waters of the mighty

Columbia, a railroad and water corporation with steamboats plying 100

miles above and carrying freight and passengers, and an irrigation

corporation below, using half of the waters of Columbia River, and all

the State of Washington got was filing fees; and Governor Hay wants us

to give the balance to him in the same way--the other half of those

great waters of the mighty Columbia. The lands secured by the railroad

corporation within a few months on the shore--lands worth millions of

dollars--were sold by Governor Hay and Land Commissioner Ross for

$10,000, and Governor Hay wants us to turn over more to him for the same

purpose. The waters of Chelan River in the Cascades James J. Hill

secured (125,000 horsepower) by paying filing fees to the State. No

wonder, in his speech, he favored State control! (Applause)

A few days before I left Washington a dispatch came from Port Townsend

to the Seattle papers--making a glorious spread--saying that the

water-power company, capitalized at a million or two, was going to put

in a 6,000 horsepower plant to supply Port Townsend and the neighboring

country--and then boasted of the country to show what a good thing it

was to invest in. They said the company had secured every water-power

site on the river, right up to its eternal glaciers, and that they had

been twenty years in securing those sites. Were they doing it for

development? Never! They were going to take one lower fall and develop

it, and sell the power at a high price. They had secured all the other

sites along that river--and for what purpose? To prevent competition

until the country grew up by paying taxes simply, holding a water-power

site that amounted to nothing until the people were prepared to pay an

immense revenue to them. So much for their plea of Governor Hay that he

wanted the State developed. The Olympia National Forest, reserved by

President Cleveland, was opened in response to a similar complaint as

that made by Governor Hay, "You are driving settlers to British

Columbia." It contains some of the richest timber lands in the State of

Washington and on the Pacific coast. What was done with it? Part of it

was covered by scrip, a few quarters were taken by war settlers, the

balance by speculators. They sold at from $600 to $800 per quarter, a

few holding on until within the last few years; and the result was that

it has passed into the hands of the corporations. Since the Milwaukee

built out there, they burned up much of it; and today you can go into

great tracts of that land (I have been through it) and you would never

know that a human foot had stepped there--it is as wild as it was before

Vancouver sailed along the coast on his voyage of discovery. If the

National Forests of the State of Washington were turned over by the

United States Government to the State of Washington and its officials,

and the tender mercies of Land Commissioner Ross, they probably would go

just exactly as the Olympia Forest went--into the hands of speculators,

not to be settled up, not to bring wealth and people and glory to the

State, but to be held until timber is valuable, to be kept in primeval

wilderness. Gentlemen, I thank you. (Great applause)

A DELEGATE--Mr Chairman: I wish to correct the Chair in his remark that

no one was here this morning to present the report from Washington. I

happen to be chairman of the Delegation. I know all about the meeting

behind closed doors in the Saint Paul Hotel; I am sorry I couldn't tell

about it here; but I filed my report this morning at 8 oclock, and

explained that Mr Emerson would speak for our State.

Mr ROSS--The State of Washington has been exhausted--

The CHAIRMAN--It has not been exhausted. We will give you a few minutes.

Mr ROSS--Under the heading of personal privilege. I am not going to take

your time to rehash any controversies referred to in the eloquence from

the State of Washington. I will take sufficient time, however, to tell

you one or two things. The Gentleman, so far as the Delegation from the

State of Washington is concerned, speaks for himself and for no one

else.

Mr JOHNS--Thank God, I do not speak for you! (Applause)

Mr ROSS--The Gentleman who has just spoken sounded the only discordant

note in a meeting of 500 citizens of Seattle where, to a man, they

endorsed Richard Ballinger! (Hisses from the house)

He is the only man in the city of Seattle--

Mr JOHNS--The only thing done in Seattle was what Mr Ross did.

Mr ROSS (turning toward Mr Johns)--I quit and allowed you your three

minutes, although you were not entitled to appear here at all. Now that

you have aroused me to some extent, and since they have kindly consented

that I may be heard for a few moments. I wish to tell this vast audience

that the State of Washington--and I speak solely in my official

capacity, and I am not ashamed of any act I have ever performed--I wish

to say that I served the State of Washington as Assistant

Attorney-General for four years, from 1901 to 1905, all the time dealing

with our State lands. The people of the State of Washington, on my

record there, elected me Commissioner of Public Lands two years ago, and

during the four years that I was Commissioner of Public Lands, I made

the same fight for the State of Washington that I am making now. I made

it in the Navigation Congress, in the Forestry Association--and God

knows how many things there are going on that a busy man cannot keep

track of--and the people of the State of Washington, every man, woman

and child, knew E. W. Ross; they knew his record; they knew his fight;

and in spite of all opposition from everybody in the State, like the

Gentleman who has just spoken, they nominated me by a popular vote two

years ago, and I was--(Commotion in the house, many Delegates leaving).

He says we have given away the water-powers. The State of Washington

commenced her Conservation policy prior to November 11, 1889, when we

were admitted into the Union. We have one provision in our Constitution

relative to water-power that I would rather have in the interests of the

common people than all the discretionary powers you vested in all the

presidents and all the public officers of the National and State

governments. We have a provision in our Constitution like this: the use

of water for irrigation and the like shall forever be a public utility.

You heard Theodore Roosevelt say that it was the intention of the

National Government, upon easy terms, to let the water-power out to

private corporations so that the people of the States could have cheap

electricity and cheap power furnished by these corporate institutions.

And let me say to you, you heard the statements made by Governor Hay, of

my State, as to the accomplishments of the Railway Commission in regard

to the railway companies. In my State, the State Railroad Commission

fixes the proper rate, and that ends it (applause). Our objection to the

movement is this: We are not fanatics; we have conserved beyond the

possibility of any human agency, State and National governments; we have

conserved the people's rights, so that when they need protection of the

law it is vested in our Constitution, and all the people have to do is

to rise up and enforce it (renewed commotion). That is why we do not

wish to surrender those powers to the National Government, or to the

discretion of any man.

Take the power proposition which has been mentioned by the Gentleman:

Neither the State of Washington, the Board of State Land Commissioners

(of which Board I have the honor to be chairman), nor the members of the

State Tax Commission had anything to do with the taking of a site by the

Hanford Irrigation and Power Company--not a thing. Let me tell you what

it was. On Columbia River, some 40 to 60 miles above Kennewick, is what

is known as Priest Rapids. The War Department of the United States

Government is supposed to control Columbia River. It is navigable for

all sorts of crafts both below and above Priest Rapids. By virtue of an

act of the Legislature of 1905, the State of Washington conferred upon

the Reclamation Service of the United States express authority to

appropriate, for its own purposes and the purpose of irrigation, all the

waters of Columbia River and every other stream in the State. The

Reclamation Service, in compliance with that act, filed upon the waters

of Columbia River at Priest Rapids, and, in one particular year, filed

an express relinquishment and abandonment of that project. They stated,

in cold type, that they would never undertake it. And what next? They

consented, in writing, that the Hanford Irrigation Company might have

and enjoy it. The Hanford Company went to the War Department of the

United States, and obtained a permit to build a concrete dam in Columbia

River at Priest Rapids to assist irrigation, and the War Department

consented; and outside of that the Hanford Irrigation and Power Company

has acquired nothing whatever from the State of Washington. But

supposing that the Hanford Irrigation and Power Company is using the

waters of the State of Washington for irrigation and power

purposes--whenever the people of the State of Washington are convinced

that the Hanford Irrigation and Power Company is charging an unjust or

unreasonable price for power, or for water for irrigation, or for the

annual maintenance fee, thank God we have it vested in the Constitution

of the State of Washington that the people can fix the price. That is

our style of Conservation, and that is why we object to Federal control.

I represent the people of the State of Washington (laughter), and I

don't care who says to the contrary, and I am proud to oppose the

surrendering of absolute control by the people in favor of the

discretion of any man.

Mr E. H. FOURT (of Wyoming)--Mr Chairman, it is now very late. I was not

able to attend this morning and submit a report or an address. I will

present this report, and move the Congress that it be printed in the

record as a report from Wyoming.

The CHAIRMAN--The paper will be received, if there is no objection. (The

paper was handed to the Secretary.)

Mr B. A. FOWLER (of Arizona)--In answer to the call for Arizona, I want

to say that at present Arizona is a Territory. One year from now, at the

next Conservation Congress, we hope that Arizona will be a State

(applause), and that at that time we will make a State report of which

you will not be ashamed. (Applause)

Mr G. M. HUNT (of the District of Columbia)--Mr Chairman: I simply want

to announce the fact that the District of Columbia is on the map

(applause). Lots and lots of folks are under the impression that the

District of Columbia only exists from the second Tuesday after the first

Monday in December until Congress adjourns (laughter); but, on the

contrary, the District of Columbia is on the map 365 days in the year.

Further than that, we have a Chamber of Commerce that is working 24

hours a day during that 365 days. Still further, this Chamber of

Commerce has authorized and directed me to present an invitation to this

National Conservation Congress to hold its next annual session in the

District of Columbia. Washington, D. C., is the capital of the Nation;

it is your home; it is _your_ capital; you have helped to make it what

it is, and it is time that you should get there and see how we have

spent your money. The Far West has been converted to Conservation, and

with the setting of tomorrow's sun the Middle West will have been

converted; and we feel that we of the East need conversion, and we want

you to come to Washington in 1911 and convert us. I thank you.

(Applause)

Mr HENRY A. BARKER (of Rhode Island)--I think, at this late hour, it is

not right to take very much time of the Congress. I take pleasure in

filing the report of the Conservation Commission of the State of Rhode

Island.

About three weeks ago the Legislature of Rhode Island established the

Conservation Commission on a new and more efficient basis than that

which previously existed. Of course I might spend a great deal of time

in telling you that Rhode Island, like every other State that we have

heard from so far, is by far the grandest and most splendid of all the

States of the Nation (laughter and applause); but I think, under the

circumstances, I will confine myself to reading the last paragraph of

the report, I will file in order to show you the position Rhode Island

occupies in certain matters. "Rhode Island has awakened to vital things,

but even if it had only an indirect interest in Conservation it would

still feel that it owed its moral influence to the country as a whole,

and that it is not a selfish little 2-cent Republic all by its lonesome,

but a part of a great Nation that prefers to be governed from

Washington"--I mean Washington, D. C. (laughter)--"rather than from Wall

Street. It prefers to belong to a Nation whose prosperity and power and

glory need the cooperation and loyalty of every one of its citizens." I

thank you. (Applause)

The CHAIRMAN: It has just been called to my attention that several

Delegates who have spoken for their States have not handed in their

names; they will be privileged to hand their names and addresses, with

the remarks that they have made, to the Secretary.

Professor L. C. WHITE (of West Virginia)--West Virginia has been

overlooked; it is on the map. I will not take much of your time,

Gentlemen; only enough to say that West Virginia has so far fought a

losing game on the question of Conservation with reference to our oil

and gas resources. The great corporations have wasted natural gas in

West Virginia to the value of from $200,000,000 to $300,000,000, and

this is still going on at the rate of a quarter of million of cubic feet

daily. Our late Governor Dawson appointed a Commission on Conservation,

and it made an able report; but the legislators, who are largely

controlled by the corporations, have taken no notice of it whatever. The

only thing actually done in the way of Conservation was the

establishment of a State game and fire warden, who has some power in the

way of stopping the forest fires--thanks to one great Conservationist,

Mr Gifford Pinchot (applause), through whose great influence we have

made some advance in the preservation of our natural resources. And the

State of West Virginia also owes a debt of gratitude to Dr Joseph A.

Holmes, whom the President recently appointed Director of the Bureau of

Mines; at his instance an expert was sent from the great laboratory at

Pittsburg to the mines of West Virginia to investigate the causes of

mine explosions--through whom we learned that the dust of the mines

would explode,--and that expert sacrificed his life in a West Virginia

mine. The former method of mining has now been entirely abolished, and

during the fiscal year ending June 30, 1910, out of the sixty or seventy

thousand miners of West Virginia not a single human life has been lost

as the result of dust explosion (applause). And now that Dr Holmes is at

the head of that great bureau (placed there against the wishes of some

of the members of the cabinet of President Taft), we are sure that other

discoveries in certain lines will be made in West Virginia for the

conservation of human life. (Applause)

Mr E. L. WORSHAM (of Georgia)--Mr Chairman, I want to report that

Georgia, too, is on the map. I am not going to take your time in an

attempt to make a speech or even a report. There are a number of

problems I wanted to discuss, but in view of the fact that I know all of

you have had more Conservation than you can digest in one evening, I

forbear. I do want to say, however, that the West and the Northwest are

not the only sections of the country which are interested in

Conservation. Coming from one of the oldest States of the Union (one of

the original thirteen) I can say that there is a greater demand for

systematic Conservation in our section of the country than there is in

any other. We can appreciate the value of Conservation. Nature has been

exceedingly kind to this section of the country in the distribution of

natural resources. Georgia was originally the chief gold-producing State

of the Union. She still has rich mineral resources. She has water-power

enough to run all the mills in the Southern States and then have some to

spare. I can appreciate thoroughly what the water-power proposition

means, because we are up against that same proposition now, wherein the

large corporations are trying to gobble up the water-power sites: and

that is one of the main problems of Conservation which confronts the

people of Georgia today and will be fought before the State Legislature;

and I want to assure you, right now, that we are going to depend upon

the National Government for aid in propositions of this kind. (Applause)

We are interested in Conservation, but our time is too valuable to be

wasted in the discussion of States' rights, because our people fought

out that question forty-five years ago (applause). My father spent four

long years fighting on that problem, and we consider that it has been

solved to the satisfaction of the great majority (applause).

I want to endorse what Mr Pinchot said this morning in behalf of the

work which the women have done for Conservation. I don't know how it is

in the North; but with us the women are the moulders of sentiment, and

they have been fighting in this movement for a number of years

(applause). We are going to hold a Southern Conservation Congress in

Atlanta on October 7 and 8 (applause). That movement is backed by 25,000

women in the State of Georgia, by the various women's clubs, by the

press, and by all the leading citizens. If there are any factions, they

have not made their appearance as yet. We are going to make that

Congress a success. We plead for your cooperation, because we need all

the help we can get. (Applause)

A number of telegrams were read.

The CHAIRMAN--If there is nothing further before us--

Mr BENJAMIN MARTIN, JR.--Mr Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen: The hour is

growing late, and it is my pleasure to rise for the purpose of offering

a motion to adjourn; but before making that motion, as a Delegate from

Oklahoma, and speaking for the other Delegates, I wish to thank the good

people of Minnesota, and more especially the people of the Twin Cities,

for the delightful manner in which they have entertained us. As we

return to our homes, we do so with the most pleasant memories of our

visit to this great metropolis. One great inspiration to me, and to most

of the Delegates, has been the attendance of ladies at the various

sessions. Now, without further comment, I move that this Congress

adjourn _sine die_.

Chairman WHITE--Without objection, the Congress will stand adjourned: it

is adjourned.

SUPPLEMENTARY PROCEEDINGS

LAWS THAT SHOULD BE PASSED

FRANCIS G. NEWLANDS

_Senior Senator From Nevada_

Regretting my inability to address the Conservation Congress personally

on the subject assigned to me, I submit my views briefly by telegraph.

Conservation legislation necessarily involves harmonious action by

forty-seven sovereigns, the Nation and the States, each acting within

its jurisdiction. As the legislative bodies cannot confer together, it

is necessary that there should be some intermediate organization which

will bring about team work. There should be a National Commission and

State commissions which can act together, as well as separately, in

recommending needed legislation. A reactionary Congress disregarded

Roosevelt's recommendations on this subject, but the progressive

sentiment of the country will not brook further resistance; and the bill

for the appointment by the President of a National Conservation

Commission composed of publicists and experts in civil, hydraulic, and

electric engineering, in arid and swamp land reclamation, in

transportation, and in mining and lumbering, reported by the Senate

Conservation Committee at the last session, should surely pass. With

Roosevelt as chairman, and Garfield, Pinchot, Newell, and the Chief of

Engineers of the Army as members of this Commission, we would have the

men who in practical administration have become more thoroughly informed

regarding the natural resources of this country than any others.

As to the land laws: It is evident that for years large portions of the

public domain have been gradually drifting into private and monopolistic

ownership under antiquated and misfit land laws utterly unadapted to

existing economic conditions, and therefore stimulating fraud in their

evasion and perversion. Legislators outside of the public land States

have taken little interest in the subject, relying mainly upon the

States involved to suggest legislation. Had the Senators and

Representatives from the public land States counseled together

continuously, patiently, and tolerantly regarding the land laws, as they

did regarding the Reclamation Act, the confusion and scandal and the

prosecutions of the past six years would have been lessened, and a wise

solution of needed legislation would have been evolved and accepted by

the country. At the next session of Congress such a council of western

Senators and Representatives should be held, and the present deadlock of

conflicting views ended. In shaping laws regarding the public lands the

central idea should be a rational development, without monopoly or

waste; the establishment of individual homes upon the agricultural

lands; the utilization of the forests and the coal, iron, and oil

deposits under conditions that will enlist the aid of needed capital

without monopolistic exaction or excessive prices; and the improvement

of our waterways, regardless of State lines, so as to promote every use

to which civilization can put them, and in that connection secure team

work on the part of the various services, National and State, engaged

upon them, as well as the cooperation of the Nation and the States, each

within its appropriate jurisdiction in the work to be done and the

expenditures to be made.

Until comprehensive plans are developed, the Nation should not part

permanently with the title to any lands suited for the development of

water-power, the promotion of navigation, or the establishment of

transfer facilities and sites, but should hold the National properties

in such shape that they may be utilized in the working out of

comprehensive plans involving the union of National and State powers. In

forming these plans it should be borne in mind that the Nation holds the

public domain, not for National profit, but in trust for the population,

present and future, of the public land States which welcome immigration

from other States whose surplus population there finds a resting place.

The money realized either from sale or rentals should therefore be

applied to the schools, roads, reclamation projects, and other public

development of the States in which the lands are located.

The ultimate purpose of the laws should be to gradually substitute State

sovereignty for National sovereignty in the direction and control of

this great public trust; but great care should be taken not to

prematurely turn over the trust to States too weak to resist powerful

combinations and monopolies, or until the organization of adequate

public regulation and control is effected.

CONSERVATION OF THE NATION'S RESOURCES

J. B. WHITE

_Chairman of the Executive Committee of the National Conservation

Congress_

In the division of the program set apart for discussion there are many

ideas and inquiries crowded upon our minds for expression; and while

much will be made clearer to us, there will be many questions that will

remain to us unanswered.

Perhaps we may first ask ourselves: Why are we here? What came we here

to do? What is Conservation? To whom does it apply? Who are

Conservationists? And who are enemies of Conservation? Are there any,

and why? What special principles must we subscribe to in order to be

known as sufficiently orthodox in creed that we will be received as

worthy disciples in this cause? And who but ourselves (and each for one

another) shall pass upon our credentials as to our honesty of purpose in

this great work? To whom are we answerable but to ourselves, the people?

And why should a great congress of thousands of American people meet

here, as we are doing this week, on this occasion, when we have a legal

Congress in Washington representing every district in this broad land,

whose members we have elected to make such laws as are necessary for our

present and future welfare?

The answer seems to be that this assemblage represents a popular

upheaval of public sentiment, animated and encouraged by those who have

thought along advanced lines and are pioneers in this cause in the press

and on the rostrum; some of whom have been right, and others of whom

were almost wholly wrong. We are here to discuss these features, to

winnow the chaff from the golden grain in this agitation of thought

which we trust will be the beginning of wisdom, to be crystallized as

far as practicable into proper National and State laws for the

regulation of Conservation of public resources, and that the people may

become awakened to that greater saving principle of personal and private

Conservation. It is we, the people, instead of we, the politicians, who

are and should be most in evidence at this Congress.

It has been said that knowledge is power. It is perhaps a better truism

to say that action, with knowledge, is power. Knowledge without action

would avail little; and action without knowledge would be groping in the

dark. But with knowledge and action we can accomplish noble results.

All great reforms and improved conditions spring from the wants, needs,

and consciences of a dissatisfied people. Sometimes the needed relief

comes through an armed and sometimes through a peaceful revolution. Some

man looms up above his fellows from the sea of unrest and his greatness

is proven by his devotion to the cause, free from the selfish thought of

personal aggrandizement; and by his wisdom and tact he creates

confidence in his judgment, in his sagacity, in his fitness for

leadership. So few there are who are willing to bear the cross from this

high sense of duty and offer themselves a mark for calumny and

vituperation, and often in many ways to become a sacrifice to a people's

cause! And when one is found, it frequently happens that the public are

slow in showing their gratitude and appreciation for what his

discernment and discretion saved to a nation; the reward of proper

recognition is often withheld until long after he is dead, because he

lived in advance of his time.

But there are fictitious and exaggerated issues which are created and

developed to huge proportions for the dear people by the sleek

politician (and his name is Legion) who sets up his scarecrow of

impending woe that he may rush valiantly in and save his constituents

and the citizens of a nation from dire calamity, and generations unborn

from distress and want. It is not my purpose to attempt to lull to sleep

in fancied security those who have been influenced by those suspected of

being unnecessarily active in fighting windmills. Always there is need

of sound, conservative consideration before taking hasty action, and the

people are becoming better informed and more critical in their

discriminations, and are learning to know the loud-mouthed pretender

from the thoughtful, loyal, public-spirited citizen. People now are

doing their own thinking. Time was not long ago when the greatest

newspapers of largest circulation manufactured public opinion so

successfully that they were the great thinking machines for the country.

It was so much easier for the people than doing the actual thinking and

logical reasoning for themselves. People read the editorials of their

respective journals in order to get ideas to use in their arguments

with each other. I think that as an educator the newspapers then, as

now, served a most valuable purpose, but it is infinitely of more help

to the thinking man, who criticizes and analyzes what he reads before he

accepts and assimilates it as his own. The pen has been mightier than

the sword, and the "power of the press" has matured and developed

conditions that had to be arbitrated by the sword.

_The People Deceived_

Much harm has been done by wrong thinking in regard to Conservation, and

the people have been deceived and prejudiced; and like a strong man

awakening from a sleep they have reached out in alarm to search for and

punish, in advance of ascertaining what, if anything, was really the

matter. Innocent people and innocent industries were maligned and

injured. The public are now finding that they have been deceived by the

scheming politicians, and by highly colored newspaper comments, and that

"Conservation" has been used as a trick word and is not what they

thought it was. They had been led to believe that it was something that

someone else ought to do, or should be forced to do, and that they were

being robbed because Conservation was not practiced; and that if

Conservation laws should be passed as recommended by these ignorant

agitators they would be greatly benefited; that everything would be

cheaper than they had to pay, and that they could get more for what they

had to sell. They never stopped to reason that Conservation without use

means holding back from development the natural resources of the country

and producing stagnation in business, and that if each succeeding

generation should follow the same policy there never would be any

improvement.

Those whose education never has extended beyond the three Rs can

understand the principles of Conservation in reforestation, reclamation,

and restoration--reforestation where it will pay to reforest;

reclamation where it will pay to reclaim; and restoration where it will

pay to restore to the soil the elements needed, and where forestry will

not pay better.

The great American leader of Conservation always has maintained, and

especially in his speech at the first Conservation Congress a year ago,

that the first principles of Conservation is development of resources

for the benefit of the people who live here now; he stated that there

might be just as much waste in neglecting the development and use of

natural resources as there is in their destruction by wasteful methods.

In the second place, Conservation stands for the prevention of waste;

and in the third place, Conservation stands for the preservation and

perpetuation of our resources through wise economy and thrift. And its

principles apply alike to individuals and to nations. If a policy in any

department of Conservation requires great outlay of money in order to

develop and conserve for this and future generations, then the

Government, the whole people, and succeeding generations may be

rightfully asked to bear part of the expense, which could be done by the

selling of bonds, and by exemption from taxation some products of

growth, like the forests, which are now taxed every year, making the

owners pay taxes for a hundred years to get for the market only one

crop. No other crop is taxed like this. The owners of any one resource

should not bear all the burdens for growing it for future generations;

and, if it does not pay, the soil will be used for other crops which

will pay better.

_True Leaders Misunderstood_

As a matter of fact, the true leaders in intelligent Conservation have

been misunderstood by press and people. The principle has been attacked

as if it meant the non-use of our natural resources by the present

generation. Even in Alaska the best known teachers of Conservation urge

the development of all the resources for the benefit of all the people.

They wish to encourage pioneering on both a small and on a large scale.

It is not the purpose of Conservation to preserve from exploration and

discovery unknown resources if there can be found for new fields men

brave and fearless enough to take the risks of life and of capital. For

instance, when in the prospecting of a country's possibilities, and in

the risks of life and capital incident thereto, there is called into

action every bit of physical or mental energy to meet conditions that

seem insurmountable, it is not our purpose to hamper or retard, and say

that this risk and cost shall be left entirely to future generations. We

are willing to encourage the cutting out of the way, and doing all we

can in this generation, believing that the next generation will find new

duties suited to its advanced condition and change of needful

requirements.

Wise Conservation with use means the maximum of efficiency and profit

with the minimum of waste and cost. We do not wish the few to have

unfair advantage. We desire each and all to have opportunity according

to their talents and their physical or financial abilities, that the

known and unknown resources of a country shall not be gobbled up by a

few without an equal opportunity to others who can furnish the same

needed measure of requirements to insure success. We realize that

corporations are necessary to develop a country; that aggregations of

capital, made up from large and small stockholders of the people, can

accomplish more with less waste than can individuals. They can put in

expensive and saving devices and can operate at a far smaller percentage

of profit.

For example, in gold mining the individual works his placer claim with

simple equipment; he will leave 50 percent as waste. Then the dredging

companies will follow, and get half as much more. Then come the big

hydraulic companies, reaching benches and levels that men with small

capital could not attain. These companies require millions of capital,

and they save the waste and are satisfied with a net profit of a few

cents per ton. Just so with Alaska's coal; Alaska needs the coal, and

all we ask is that some fair method shall be adopted which will best

subserve the requirements and will encourage development.

Conservation and economy must enter into our very life, and every effort

should be made to get the most out of little; to find a use for what now

we are in various ways wasting. In European countries the hard struggles

of the masses have produced the saving habit--a virtue we have got to

learn and practice individually and as a people before Conservation will

become a National success. Unless we halt in our mad extravagances,

perhaps there will come to us in some degree those sad experiences of

suffering that have put the saving principle into the very fiber of the

old world peoples; and we will learn our lesson as they long ago learned

theirs. We must each share the burdens of Conservation, and we all

likewise will share in its blessings.

Conservation is not any one man's opportunity, prerogative, or

privilege. It is for the use and benefit of each and all, and can be

practiced in any business or occupation as an important aid to success.

It is for peasant and prince, rich and poor, and for the Nation as well

as for the individuals. We must discover some effectual means to prevent

disastrous forest fires. We must restore the fertility of our soils.

_The Question of Ownership_

Whether Conservation is best promoted by individual ownership of certain

natural resources is a disputed question, depending on the nature of the

public utilities, the location, and other conditions. Government

ownership does not mean that the Government is going into business

competition with private capital. It means reasonable royalty and

fairness and protection to the lessee, to enable him to compete under

prescribed conditions favorable and just alike to all parties.

In most cases ownership causes a man to see the need of conservation and

economy. The idea of protecting natural resources against waste is not

so strong with some, if they do not have possession; while with others

it is true that possession gives them the desire and opportunity to see

the actual dollars, and they make haste, manufacturing more than the

market demands so that only the prime and best qualities find a market,

which causes a grievous waste. Especially is this true in the lumber

business, but it is not so true in the meat business. The packers of

meat products have studied the science of saving and conservation, so

that the entire carcass is utilized in some useful manner absolutely

without waste. And on the farm the man who is financially able to study

and practice conservation of the soil prevents its exhaustion, while his

poorer neighbor, lacking the funds for the initial expenses, sells the

life of the soil with the crop that he markets, and his farm is soon

impoverished. We, or some of us, believe that there should be some way

of extending State aid at a low rate of interest to the poor farmer to

enable him properly to fertilize his soil; and that the chemistry of

soils and scientific agriculture should be taught in the common schools.

Thus would the entire country be benefited, and National efficiency

strengthened.

_Practical Application_

The science of Conservation, as a philosophy, is wholly independent of

who owns the property; but its successful practical application often

depends very much on ownership. Combinations of capital have the

advantage, and this needed capital gives greater possibilities for

Conservation. Compare the country butcher and his 50-percent waste with

the million-dollar packing house which has no waste. It is not the fault

of Conservation that there are extremes in combinations, resulting in

trusts or monopolies. They are practicing Conservation in the extreme,

in saving of raw material by greater utilization, and by the discovery

of new uses for by-products. The Standard Oil Company is another example

of the very fineness of division and subdivision of by-products, which

finds a place in therapeutics and in the arts, and appear in vaseline,

paints, dyes, and a hundred other valuable chemical products. This is

Conservation. But there are hundreds of ways where Conservation can be

practiced to a profit in every occupation of life, to the physical,

intellectual, and moral betterment of mankind. As corporations are made

up of many individuals to do certain things that are necessary to be

done, which it would be impracticable or impossible for any individual

to do alone, is it not best to recognize them as artificial individuals,

subject to the control as well as to the protection of wise laws, which

permit no individual to prosper at the expense, discomfort or injury of

another individual?

Conservation, as a living, vital principle stands out beyond and above

selfish partisan politics; and no man or combination of men will ever be

able to make a political issue of it any more than you can make the

gospel of spiritual salvation a political issue. But, like the gospel of

spiritual and physical health, it demands the homage and acceptance of

all. There will be many men of many minds, crystallizing by their

combinations into different sentiments, and advocating different

methods. It is so with churches. But their central doctrine of salvation

will continue to be the basis of creed. And ours is Conservation, that

the country and its people may continue to prosper and progress, and

that the principle and practice of love and charity, which make up the

Golden Rule, shall not cease to influence the hearts of men. The great

question to each one should be: Where and how does Conservation apply to

me?

We are here to build the temple, and to bring men up to the standard

which we now unfurl to the world.

The sower goeth forth to sow; some sow to discord and strife, and some

to peace and harmony; some sow to love and some to hate; some sow to

adversity, and some to prosperity; some sow to selfish greed, and some

to philanthropy and public good; some sow to prudence and Conservation,

and some sow to extravagance and waste.

"There is that scattereth, and yet increaseth; and there is that

witholdeth more than is meet, but it tendeth to poverty."

"Be ye not deceived. For whatsoever ye sow, that shall ye also reap."

PRACTICAL ASPECTS OF CONSERVATION

A. B. FARQUHAR

_Executive Committeeman National Conservation Congress_

In the forum of argument the Cause of Conservation, as a general

principle and in every detailed application, has already won. When taken

on its own merits, hardly a voice is now raised in opposition. Yet it

has still its enemies, none the less pertinacious or dangerous that

their antagonism is based not on public but on private interest--enemies

who are carrying on a bitter contest by indirect methods, and clouding

the issue by starting side questions. We have all heard of the medical

practitioner who covered his general ignorance of pathology by the

device of inducing fits, which were his specialty. So, when anybody

finds the Conservation policy an obstacle to his pecuniary interest, it

is an easy expedient to cover his inability to overthrow or confute that

policy on point of principle by a display of his skill in exposing real

or fancied weaknesses on irrelevant points.

Instances of this effort to secure an advantage by an adroit befogging

of the question will occur to everyone who has followed the discussion

of our subject. Some of these have been so often exposed that it would

be only wearisome to allude again to them, were it not for the

importance of being on guard at all times on all points against the

crafty contrivings of the enemy.

Let us first consider the confusion of Conservation with hostility to

corporations; of encouragement to enterprise, with license to

destruction of natural resources. It is true that we have heard and read

some vigorous protests recently against grants of timber and

water-rights to certain business corporations, whose profits would be

sharply curtailed by preventing or limiting their free use of the

country's forest and river wealth. Perhaps those protests were stronger

because a combination was to profit by the grants than they would have

been had the beneficiaries been dissociated individuals; what is certain

is that they were decidedly stronger because of a belief that the

concessions were to be granted without exacting for them their full

money value. Yet, even allowing that objections founded on the

principles of Conservation may have been mixed in this case with

objections on other grounds, it is contrary to common-sense to apply to

the former the invalidity or the validity that may be discovered in the

latter. Arguments for Conservation are no more or less sound because

aggregations of capital in large industrial undertakings are dangerous

or useful to the public. As Conservationists, we are not concerned

either to palliate the frequent dangers or to depreciate the frequent

valuable services to the public from such aggregations. But we are

concerned to see that the National resources are not squandered for

private gain, if our best efforts can prevent it.

Another example of a confusion of the question, or raising a false

question, is when a saving of natural resources is identified with

locking them up; as though energy conserved were to be understood as

energy neutralized. Quite the contrary: Conservation means so treating

our resources as to get the most we can from them. In the case of our

forest wealth, as of any other in which there is growth and decay, a

judicious degree of consumption of the product is a necessity. After the

period of most rapid development has been succeeded by a slower rate of

increase, approaching that when losses by accident and by interior

degeneration are barely made up by the growing season, there is

obviously a gain in removing the tree and leaving its place to be filled

by something that will continue to grow. In a properly conserved forest

no tree is left standing until attacked by decay, but each is cut when

its value is greatest, so that the best management is recognized not so

much by the largest amount of standing timber as by the largest yearly

gross increase in growth of timber. It is somewhat similar with

water-power. "The mill never grind with water that is past," so the

power has to be used when it is within our grasp, or be lost.

Conservation of water-power is maintenance of the amount of such power

that so appears, and disappears. It is for use; Conservation for disuse,

in this case, becomes an absurdity. Even as to mineral resources, which

cannot be replaced when once withdrawn, Conservation calls only for

economical use, not for neglect or insufficient use. The argument is

that we have quite as good a right to the enjoyment of the gifts of

Nature as our successors have, but not a right so much better than

theirs as to render a wanton waste of our patrimony justifiable, or even

pardonable.

In connection with this same identification of forest Conservation with

neglect of the forests, we should consider the hasty tendency shown in

some quarters to regard the terrible forest fires of the last few weeks

as proof that we are safer without a woodland than with it, and that

therefore our policy is at fault. But our policy is care, and not

neglect. We would avoid such calamities by preventing them. The recent

fires appear to have been due very largely to carelessness, from

meal-preparation or from smoking in presence of dry combustible

material; and in some instances to actual incendiarism, which was, where

it occurred, a crime no less serious than wilful murder. These forests

might have been safeguarded by an expenditure of one-tenth the loss by

fire, and at no danger to life. Fires from locomotive sparks--a far too

frequent nuisance--should no longer be classed with unavoidable

accidents; for the masses of dried grasses, etc., that make the sparks

dangerous could and should be removed from the track vicinity; or the

locomotives provided with efficient spark-arresters, or oil used instead

of coal. From strictly non-preventable accidents such as lightning,

general conflagrations must be exceedingly rare; and thus the cure for

the entire evil is within the reach of capable caretakers. Where an

efficient forest guard is provided, as experience in European countries

and some American States has demonstrated, these disastrous visitations

are no longer dreaded. To look on a universal removal of our Nation's

tree-wealth as the only remedy, is like the old proposition to drive

rats from the granary by burning the barn.

One more illustration will be enough. It is a great advantage to any

cause when the opposing advocate can be found in error on any point, no

matter how trivial or how far aloof from the essential issue; for then

the convenient presumption of "false in one thing, false in all," can be

raised, and the weakness of the said cause most effectively disguised.

This expedient is at least as good as the famous rule in pleading: "When

you have no case, then abuse the plaintiff's attorney." It is readily

possible, I dare say, to show that some of our Conservationist champions

may have in a few cases underestimated the life yet remaining to our

National resources. Estimate in these matters is necessarily uncertain,

few or none of the elements of the calculation being well ascertained.

This is particularly true of our mineral supply. The time when our

coal, for example, may be expected to become practically exhausted

cannot be set within a hundred years, for we cannot gauge the stock in

veins out of sight, nor foresee the rate at which the use of coal will

be accelerated. But it would seem sufficient to know that, at the

present rate of extraction (the amount mined in 1906, as the figures

show, excelled all previous records, and yet the increase in 1907 over

1906 was more than the total annual supply 10 years earlier), no finite

quantity could indefinitely survive; hence more attention must be paid

to avoiding the present lavish waste in mining, as well as applying

water-power and wind-power wherever adapted to do the work now done by

burning coal. These economies should be introduced now from choice, not

left till the disappearance of our fuel-supply drives us to them by

force. It is a wretched business to allow our boast that "The country's

coal supply is good for many hundreds of years yet" to uphold us in the

reckless waste we now make of it.

But I attempted to cover the whole field of Conservation in an address

at our first Congress, and will not repeat but, in conclusion, will

touch upon that form of Conservation which all will concede to be of

supreme importance--the Conservation of the most precious asset of the

State: its men, women, and children. If the life and health of citizens

is sacrificed, by vicious measures or by simple neglect, no saving of

any other of our possessions will at all avail us. The importance of

efforts, on a National scale, for the maintenance of public health has

been proved by ample experience, and we should see to the continuance,

and especially to the proper organization, of such efforts. An important

step in that direction is the proposed formation of a Department of

Health under the Federal Government, as contemplated in the bill so ably

championed by Senator Owen at the last session of Congress. Our race is

a prey to epidemics which extend far beyond State boundaries, arising

from causes that often require long-continued and expensive

investigations for their determination and their counteraction; and it

is obvious that any effectual work against them must be under charge of

the General Government. The clear and cogent reasons for this view have

again and again been given by sanitary experts, and it is needless to

repeat them. The matter is of sufficient importance to call for action

from our Congress, and a resolution favoring a Department of Health, at

the National Capital ought surely to meet with no opposition. I would

propose the following resolutions:

_Resolved_, That this Congress declares its hearty approval of

the opinion made public last week by our honored Chief

Executive, President Taft, that his party and his

Administration are pledged "to make better provisions for

securing the health of the Nation. The most tangible and useful

form that this can take would be the establishment of a

National Bureau of Health, to include all the health agencies

of the Government now distributed in different departments."

_Resolved_, That we accept, in principle, the "Health

Department" bill of Senator Owen now pending, and strongly

recommend that that measure, suitably amended where necessary,

be enacted into law.

_Resolved_, That our Secretary be directed to communicate a

resolution advocating a Department of Health to the members of

the National Senate and House of Representatives, and that our

own membership be urged to use all their individual influence

to aid the passage of the measure hereby recommended.

REPORT FROM ARKANSAS

SID B. REDDING

_Secretary Arkansas Conservation Commission_

Progress has been made in the Conservation movement in Arkansas through

the recent organization of the Arkansas Conservation Commission. Up to

this time we have had no legislation along Conservation lines, and our

Conservation Commission is one whose members serve without compensation.

The Commission was appointed by our present Governor, and its officers

are George W. Donaghey, _Chairman_, and Sid B. Redding, _Secretary_. The

Commission has effected a permanent organization, and its membership

includes some of the leading business and professional men of our State.

The Arkansas Legislature will convene in January, 1911, and at that time

Governor Donaghey will perhaps recommend legislation covering a fixed

Conservation policy for our State.

REPORT FROM COLORADO

FRANK C. GOUDY

_President Colorado Conservation Commission_

The Colorado Conservation Commission is composed of thirty-six members

appointed by the Governor of the State February 17, 1909, with Mr Frank

C. Goudy designated as Chairman. The Commission met on call to organize

March 11, 1909, at which time Mr Goudy, the Chairman, was elected

President of the Commission for the ensuing year, and the following

subjects were fixed upon as embracing the general scope of Conservation

in Colorado, viz: Lands, Waters, Minerals, Forestry, and Natural

History. Standing Committees were appointed and put in charge of these

five divisions of labor.

The organization is composed of men holding all shades of opinion

concerning Conservation. Some think the Federal Government should turn

over to the State all the public domain within its borders, together

with its natural resources of every kind; that the State should own and

control the public land and all it contains. Others hold that these

transfers from the Federal Government to the State should be made, but

that they should be subject to conditions to be named in the grant,

providing adequate protection against monopoly and other objectionable

control. Still others believe there should be cooperation with the

General Government, at least until such laws are enacted as will assist

in the work of Conservation and until the State is better prepared,

financially, to meet the expense necessarily attending such a work.

There are many others who believe in the continued Federal control of

the public domain and its resources.

Including the first meeting, five sessions have been held, each

occupying two days. In connection with the several sessions already

held, considerable labor has been performed. Many papers have been read,

numerous addresses have been delivered, and the Standing Committees have

made sundry carefully prepared reports. Of the papers read, more than

half have been given by persons not members of the Commission, not for

lack of readiness on the part of our own people, but to divide this

feature of the work with the public at large. It has never been

difficult to secure speakers either inside or outside of the Commission.

The Commission itself is composed of a body of more than ordinary

intelligence. The Annual Meeting was marked with a banquet to emphasize

the passing of the year. The last meeting, April 18-19, 1910, was

devoted entirely to the subject of the water-power resources of the

State. Numerous letters from men prominent at Washington were received

and read, and five papers were given by persons interested in the

subject. All phases of the question were presented, and the most mature

thought of the present time was elicited.

One of the duties of the Secretary of the Commission is to take notice

of any unlawful waste or destruction of natural resources and report the

same to the proper authorities. This work has been sufficiently pursued

to disclose a field calling for special attention--one that calls for

legislative recognition, authority, and assistance.

It may be of interest to the Congress to know something of the

resolutions that have been adopted by this Commission. A brief abstract

of the elements of a few will suffice to show how the body stands on the

subject of Conservation.

1--A hearty endorsement of the general policy of the Government in

control and conservation of the resources of the Nation.

2--Hearty cooperation between the State and Nation in Conservation.

3--That all plans of Conservation should safeguard against monopoly.

4--That in disposing of water-power sites, all franchises should be

limited to a reasonable period to prevent monopoly and regulate charges.

5--That in taxing forested lands, no account should be taken of the

timber until it is cut and sold.

6--That all afforested lands over one acre and not over ten acres on a

tract of 160 acres should be exempt from taxation for a period of ten

years.

7--That the State, by proper laws and reasonable appropriations, should

cooperate with the General Government in the protection of the forests

within the State from fire and lawless depredations of every kind.

Among other things, a committee has been appointed to prepare and submit

to the next meeting a brief and clear statement, for general

circulation, as to what Conservation is and what it is not; what it

stands for, and what it seeks to do. The purpose is to clear away the

haze of misunderstanding and misapprehension in the public mind

concerning it.

The Commission is about to publish a full report of its proceedings,

covering the five sessions already held.

In closing this statement, it may not be out of place to say that

nature has been lavish of resources in our State--they are many and

abundant, but in a certain measure undeveloped, and, so far, we have had

no leisure to take up matters not directly and specifically local to

Colorado, except in cases where they are necessarily general.

REPORT FROM FLORIDA

CROMWELL GIBBONS

_Florida Conservation Commission_

The spirit of Conservation prevaileth everywhere in these modern times,

and for the reason that during the past several years vicious attacks

have been made upon the National resources throughout the length and

breadth of our land, and to such a marvelous extent that our whole

people have awakened to the fact that something must be done and at once

if we wish to preserve our general resources sufficiently to care for

those we expect to come after us, and who are dependent on our country

for an honest and successful living. We have been greedy and selfish in

the past, and now is the time for us to curb this vicious appetite and

think of those who are to come hereafter. Modern times have come to

stay, but the spirit of Conservation will grow until we have

accomplished the grand results of providing proper protection to our

forests, mineral wealth, lands, water-power and waterways, and last but

not the least our various climates that God Almighty has given us to

conserve the health of our people.

Much is said as to the methods to be adopted and what necessary

legislation should take place to obtain actual results of Conservation.

The idea of giving absolute control over the forests, the inland

waterways, and the public lands confined within the States to the

National Government is repugnant to me and I believe to all of the

people of my State. It has too much the tinge of centralization of power

in the Federal Government, and we have had enough of this already. The

notion that giving the States power and control is in favor of the

special interests is ridiculous when we look back and know what has

already been done by the Federal Government giving away some of its most

valuable resources to the trust-monopoly corporations of the country,

and we view in comparison what the States have done where they have

controlled many of these resources. I have but to call your attention to

what we are doing in Florida and have done the past several years in the

way of Conservation. We realized some years ago that our public lands

were fast being absorbed by the railways operating in our State, and

that the time would soon be at hand when our people would be unable to

secure homesteads, and immigration to our great State would be unable to

place that energy with the soil of our State and bring about the

development of resources we were entitled to through the natural course

of developments. We had within our borders a vast empire of land, over

4,000,000 acres of fertile land known as the Everglades, all of which

was looked upon by the land grabbers as not worth 15 cents an acre; but

greatly to his credit, to Governor Napoleon B. Broward, now our nominee

for United States Senator, is due the reclamation of this property and a

saving to the State of lands now valued at over $35,000,000. Against

great political odds and vigorous contests, the policies of Governor

Broward were endorsed; and after much litigation through the State and

Federal courts we have been able to conserve this vast area of land by

drainage under State supervision and at the expense of the State. The

policy was greatly doubted, but it has proven a grand success in that

the State, securing title to these lands, successfully sold half of the

same at a price sufficient to build the necessary dredges and pay for

the work of the draining of the entire tract of property by carrying the

surplus waters from Lake Okeechobee through the trunk canals to the

waters of the Gulf and to Atlantic Ocean. The work that is now going on

has accomplished over 100 miles of main canals with locks to preserve

sufficient water for the purpose of irrigation in dry spells. When the

work is completed, which will be inside of three years, the State will

have provided over 275 miles of canals with the lateral canals

approaching the properties of the various owners, all of which will not

only result in giving the necessary drainage and irrigation but will

also furnish water transportation to the Gulf and to the inland water

route from Key West to Jacksonville (a distance of about 500 miles), as

well as deep-sea connections at the various ports along this route. By

this State Conservation we are giving to the people one of the richest

bodies of fertile lands in the United States, a territory greater than

the States of Rhode Island and Connecticut combined, every inch of which

will grow either sugar-cane or truck of all kinds through winter and

summer. These lands will produce at least three crops a year, and to the

industrious citizen who desires to live in a country that will give

renewed youth and a climate unexcelled and a living independent of the

world. I know of none that can be found better located to give the

results than this vast empire known as the Everglades, so promptly

conserved by our State Government and our people.

We are also interested in another line of Conservation, and that is the

preservation of our pine forests and the prohibiting of the destruction

of our sapling trees which have been attacked by those who are greedy

for wealth and have no regard for the future. Much will be accomplished

in this direction, as our people are absolutely opposed to the complete

destruction of the forests, as it will provide no future for our timber

markets; and destruction of our pine forests would undoubtedly affect

our climate, which by all means should be conserved as well as the

timber for the building of our homes of the future.

It may be as well for me to call your special attention to the fact

that, in addition to this great work of Conservation I have related in

reference to the saving of public land and our efforts in the direction

of saving the forests, our State has for several years aided in a public

way in the building of the great inland waterway along the Atlantic

coast within the State of Florida. These canals have been made during

the past 15 years, until now we have a thorough water route from Saint

John's River southward connecting streams and inlets until there has

been dug over 300 miles of canal, giving this great waterway and

enabling the people along the eastern coast sections a cheap means of

transportation to the railway center of the State at Jacksonville.

I think that we have done our part toward Conservation, and all under

the jurisdiction and authority of our State. There has been no effort at

graft, but all have worked in harmony in the interests of the public

welfare, thus demonstrating (so far as Florida is concerned) that she is

able to control her own affairs; and all she asks of the National

Government is its aid and assistance.

REPORT FROM IDAHO

JEROME J. DAY

We believe that, in the interest of the United States and the State of

Idaho, the agricultural land within the forest reserves of Idaho should

be opened to settlement and made available for home building; and that

the decision as to whether land is good agricultural land or not should

be referred to those who are primarily agriculturists, rather than to

those who are primarily arboriculturists, and to those who are familiar

with farming in Idaho rather than to those who are familiar only with

farming in general.

We believe that the protection of the forests of Idaho and the safety of

life and property in Idaho require that good roads be built along the

lines of streams leading into the heart of the forest reserves; and that

the land along these roads, whether valuable for agriculture, timber, or

mineral, should be open to entry, with such provisions in relation to

habitation and improvement as will secure the presence, between the

months of June and September, of a local fire-fighting force, consisting

of men who know the country, have a financial interest in the locality,

and are skilled in the use of the axe and in methods of fighting a

forest fire.

We believe in the separate classification of coal lands, oil lands,

phosphate and mineral lands; and we believe in the administration of

those lands in such a way as to prevent waste, promote safety in mining,

and defeat monopoly. We do not believe in a policy for revenue in

relation to these lands. The revenues to be derived should be

incidental, and belong of right to the State of Idaho.

We believe in the cooperation of the State and the National Government

in the conservation and utilization of the water-power within the State

of Idaho.

We will recommend that the Governor of Idaho call a convention or

congress to consider questions relating to home Conservation in Idaho,

and to recommend policies and legislation and a system of administration

for all forms of public wealth that lie within the borders of the State.

REPORT FROM INDIANA

A. E. METZGER

_Indiana Conservation Commission_

The Indiana Conservation Commission was appointed by former Governor

Frank P. Hawley shortly before he left the gubernatorial chair. The

Commission as appointed by Governor Thomas R. Marshall, his successor,

consists of nine members with Mr Henry Riesenberg as chairman. The

Commission, through its chairman, made an effort to get a bill through

the Legislature, making an appropriation for the use of the Commission,

but it failed to pass. Governor Marshall was repeatedly urged to set

aside a small sum out of the contingent fund so that an investigation

could be made and published, but this the Governor has repeatedly

declined to do, and it is thought he is not very favorably disposed

toward the cause of Conservation. Having no means the Commission could

do absolutely nothing, and hence may be said to be in a state of

"innocuous desuetude."

Mr Riesenberg, the chairman, has, however, lectured on the subject

throughout the State, visiting many points, giving his time freely and

defraying the expenses out of his own pocket. He has also written

innumerable articles for the papers of Indiana, and these, together with

his lectures, have served to keep the subject alive; and Indianians are

probably as well informed and as fully alive to the subject as people in

any other State.

REPORT FROM IOWA

A. C. MILLER

_Chairman Iowa State Drainage, Waterways and Conservation Commission_

I have been asked to prepare for your consideration and information a

history of the Conservation movement in Iowa, reviewing briefly the work

done by the State Drainage, Waterways and Conservation Commission.

The sentiment toward the Conservation of our natural resources has been

developing gradually for a number of years, keeping pace with the

development that has been aroused throughout the country. So far as Iowa

is concerned, it was augmented greatly through the efforts of the

commercial bodies throughout the State, and especially of those of the

city of Des Moines, when during the year 1907 they inaugurated a

movement which had for its object the securing of an appropriation by

Congress to be used in surveying three of our principal streams in order

that we might determine whether or not they were subject to improvement

for navigation, and for the further purpose of ascertaining the value of

the water-power which might be developed if the rivers were improved for

navigation.

Great interest was manifested by our people, and we were finally

successful in securing an appropriation by Congress for a survey of the

larger of the three rivers, the Des Moines; and the United States

Government has at this time a corps of some 30 engineers at work. They

expect to finish their work early in 1911.

The Thirty-third General Assembly of Iowa convened in December, 1908,

and remained in session until the following spring. The sentiment had

been aroused to such an extent at this time that there seemed to be a

general demand for the creation of some kind of a Commission to take

these matters up and work them out intelligently for the good of our

people and report with recommendations to the next General Assembly. It

seemed hard, however, for all to unite on a general plan. Portions of

our State demanded a Commission for dealing with the question of

drainage only, leaving it to other Commissions to handle the question of

water transportations, forestry, and water-power. A compromise was

finally made, and this Commission was created. It is composed of seven

members appointed by the Governor: A. C. Miller, _Chairman_, L. W.

Anderson, E. A. Burgess, A. F. Frudden, T. W. Keerl, Thomas H. McBride,

and W. H. Stevenson.

_Duties Defined_

_First_--To investigate the present condition of public drainage in Iowa

and the benefits which can be derived from the best drainage engineering

practice, the most economical administration of drainage projects, and a

more economical best method of procedure to bring about the development

of the water-power of those benefits may be secured.

_Second_--To investigate the present condition of all overflow of

flood-plain lands of Iowa, showing losses due to floods in the

destruction of farm crops, the losses due to the destruction of property

in the cities and towns and built-up districts, the losses due to the

withdrawal from crop cultivation of such flooded lands, and recommending

the proper methods of preventing such flood conditions.

_Third_--To investigate and survey at least one representative Iowa

river to ascertain the available dam sites and the potential water-power

and report the best method of procedure to bring about the development

of the water-powers of the State, at the same time retaining the

ultimate control of the water supply as a property of the State.

_Fourth_--To cooperate with the United States survey provided by act of

Congress and investigate the possibilities of navigation upon the rivers

or upon adjoining lands by canal, and to secure the aid of the

Government experts when practicable in the several matters investigated

by this Commission.

_Fifth_--To investigate the questions of forests and their preservation

and culture in the State, especially with reference to the influence of

forests on the flood conditions of the rivers and the erosion and waste

of the soils.

_Sixth_--It is the clear intent and purpose of the act providing for the

Commission that the close interrelation of the several phases of river

development shall be shown, and the necessity for a broad, comprehensive

treatment of our rivers shall be studied and reported upon.

_Seventh_--The general question of the relation of the State to the

preservation of the fertility of the Iowa soils.

_Eighth_--The general question of the wise and conservative development

and use of the mineral resources of the State, especially with reference

to the mining of coal.

_Ninth_--The general question of the nature and condition of such lakes

in Iowa as now belong to the State, and the relation of lakes and

streams to the preservation of such varieties of fish, birds, and native

animals as are desirable which now belong to the State.

_Members Serve Without Pay_

We have but $5,000 to carry on the expenses of our two years' work. Out

of this must be paid our secretary and office expenses, and the cost of

printing our reports and whatever field work is done by the engineers.

It would seem that the great State of Iowa, producing annually more than

$600,000,000 of wealth could well afford to have been more liberal in

appropriating for this work. The task assigned surely is no small one.

_Work of the Commission_

We have begun to compile our report for the printers, and expect to

present a report that will be valuable for future reference and we hope

of much interest to our people.

We have investigated the drainage conditions over the State quite

extensively, and undertaken to ascertain the number of acres of land not

available for agriculture through lack of drainage. We will have

recommendations to make pertaining to this question, but have not yet

worked out any plan for financing cost at reduced rates. This will be

considered later, but the Iowa farmer has money and is not so much

interested in having the interest rates for carrying his debt reduced,

as he is in getting the first cost reduced.

_Water-Power_

We have investigated and surveyed a number of water-power sites and are

more and more impressed with the importance of the State looking after

them and seeing that the control does not slip away. No estimate has yet

been made as to the value of the undeveloped water-power of the State,

but I will venture that it will be shown to be several millions of

dollars. If not looked after, it will be but a short time until it will

be under the control of individuals or private corporations. Almost

invariably wherever our engineers have gone, they either find the

engineer for some crowd of individuals--for some corporation--on the

job, or find that he has preceded them. I will cite one example in our

State: On Cedar River, at Moscow, individuals are planning the

construction of a great dam which will store an immense body of water.

They have 7,500 acres of land already acquired, adding greatly to the

power developed by the natural flow of the river itself. When this dam

is completed, it will turn from the channel into a canal practically the

entire discharge of the river at low stage, carrying it around the

country to the city of Muscatine, with an average fall of about ninety

feet, developing 25,000 horse-power, and finally discharging the water

into the Mississippi, never returning to the original channel from which

it was taken. A syndicate plans to finance this proposition on a basis

of $3,000,000, and if unmolested the probability is that it will be

carried out successfully. The Commission, however, is powerless, being a

temporary creation with its duties defined. We, therefore, can only call

attention in our report and urge upon our Legislature that it take some

action toward protecting our people in their rights in these matters.

We are working in perfect harmony with the United States Government

engineers who are on the Des Moines River work at this time. We expect

much from them in the way of information that we can use in our report.

Iowa is interested in some 900 miles of navigable streams, either

touched by her borders or within her territory, and we hope some day to

again reap the benefit of being able to load and unload freight at docks

within the corporate limits of our beautiful capital city, as we did for

many years in its early history; and not only Des Moines but all the

cities bordering on the great Mississippi or the equally great Missouri.

Iowa occupies a proud position among the States today, rich in fertile

soil, rich in minerals, coals, and shales, blessed with a happy and

contented people; if given the benefit of improved waterways like the

Mississippi, the Ohio, and the Missouri, making them great highways; and

if at the same time permitted to improve our tributary rivers and the

water-powers of this great Central West, it will make a mighty empire of

itself--and Iowa, magnificent State that she is, will be in the center

of it all.

We are not yet so far advanced with our work that I am able to tell you

what the Commission will or will not recommend to the next Legislature.

I am firm in the belief that a permanent Commission should be created,

with a liberal appropriation for carrying forward the work. Possibly the

field now covered by our Commission should be divided. It would seem

that the drainage interests of the State would be of sufficient

importance to justify the employment of a State engineer, and possibly

the question of drainage would receive the entire attention of some

State board. There is a great work that can be done by our Commission in

the future if the State should see fit to make it permanent and

appropriate the money to carry forward the work. The beautifying of our

meandered lakes is something that is attracting the attention of our

people, and would prove a popular move if started. They are also

becoming much interested in the treatment and handling of soils, and

much good would ultimately result to our farmers if this phase of

Conservation was handled intelligently and carefully. Professor

Stevenson, of the Iowa State Agricultural College, a member of this

Commission, is recognized as an expert in this line of Conservation

work, and I believe that his part of the report when published will be

instructive and interesting. I can only hope that enough interest will

be aroused throughout our State to influence the next Legislature to put

the Commission on a permanent basis, furnishing the means to carry on

the great work.

REPORT FROM LOUISIANA

HENRY E. HARDTNER

_Chairman Louisiana Conservation Commission_

Louisiana was the first State to create a commission for the

Conservation of Natural Resources by legislative enactment, and enjoys

the proud distinction of being the first to enact sane and comprehensive

laws tending to conserve, protect, and perpetuate the natural resources

of the State. In 1908 the Legislature created a Conservation Commission,

whose duty it was to report to the Legislature in 1910 as to the

conditions of the various resources and to recommend necessary laws for

their use and preservation.

The Commission went to work with a will, holding meetings all over the

State for the purpose of arousing the people and educating them in the

great work. The lumbermen were our friends from the beginning; so were

the owners of timber lands, and operators in the production of oil, gas,

sulphur, and salt; the farmers dependent on the streams for irrigation

purposes soon saw the benefit to be derived from a policy that would

protect and perpetuate our natural resources, and also gave us their

hearty cooperation. This great work accomplished, the people as a whole

soon realized that 80 percent of the proceeds of the forests and rivers

was expended for labor and supplies, and joined heartily in the

movement; and thus we were prepared to ask the Legislature that certain

laws be enacted.

Honorable Harry Gamble, our efficient Secretary (and a member of the

Commission) prepared the various acts, and with such care that they will

stand the test of any court. It was my pleasure as a member of the

Legislature from the newly created parish of Lasalle to introduce and

handle a number of the Conservation measures. Governor Sanders, one of

the greatest men in the United States, who recently resigned a United

States senatorship to which he had been unanimously elected because the

people needed him at the helm of the State Government, gave his hearty

support to every measure bearing on Conservation. But with all the

serious obstacles removed, and the advantage of a friendly

administration, our bills could not be made effective without a

constitutional amendment; and so we faced a real crisis.

In order to raise a sufficient fund to protect our forests from fires

and for reforestation purposes, and to prevent the gas and oil fields

from being recklessly exploited and wasted, it was necessary to levy a

license-tax on timber and minerals severed from the soil. Our resources

being in the hands of individuals and corporations, it was just and

proper that they contribute to the cost of the work for preserving their

properties, and the people through the State would enact and carry such

laws into effect as would benefit all. To pass a constitutional

amendment is not any easy matter; and thus the real work began. The

Constitution of the State, which provided for a license-tax on nearly

every profession or business, had left out lumber and minerals, probably

because it has only been in recent years that there was any development

along such lines. That part of the amendment referring to natural

resources was as follows: "Those engaged in severing natural resources,

as timber or minerals, from the soil or water, whether they thereafter

convert them by manufacturing or not, may also be rendered liable to a

license-tax, but in this case the amount to be collected may either be

graduated or fixed according to the quantity or value of the product at

the place where it is severed."

When the amendment came up for final passage I spoke in part as follows:

"The whole Conservation program as recommended by the Conservation

Commission, of which I had the honor to be chairman, is dependent on

this amendment of Article 229 of the Constitution. In carrying out the

idea of Conservation, as in carrying out any other governmental policy,

it is necessary to raise money. In order to introduce a forestry system

and to protect your forests from fires, it is necessary to have money to

employ persons informed along these lines whose special duty it will be

to look after that kind of business. Now in order to do this, it seems

no more than fair that the persons who are profiting by the depletion of

our natural resources should contribute to the payment of these bills;

but before that can be done, it is necessary to change the Constitution.

"Article 229, as originally made, exempts manufacturers. Notwithstanding

this fact, in 1902 a general license act was passed in which the

Legislature, in their wisdom, saw fit to levy a license-tax on the

manufacture of lumber. When it was attempted to collect this tax, it was

carried to the Supreme Court which held that a license-tax levied on the

manufacture of lumber could not be collected for the reason that

manufacturers were exempt under Article 229, and the sawing of lumber

was a manufacturing business. The court did not say that the attempt of

the Legislature to levy a license-tax on the manufacture of lumber was

inequitable or unjust, but merely that it was unconstitutional according

to Article 229. This bill, from and including lines 12 to 24, attempts

to change the Constitution so that the tax may be levied on the severing

of trees from the soil. It is to be noticed that there is no attempt to

levy a license-tax on the manufacture of lumber, but it is proposed to

change the Constitution so that the license-tax may be levied on the

cutting down of trees in forests.

"As stated before, the Conservation Commission, after having

investigated this question for two years and examined the laws not only

of the United States but of foreign countries, has reached the

conclusion that those persons who are engaged in the exhaustion of the

natural resources of the State, in justice to the State which permits

them to do business under this law, in justice to the people, and in

justice to future generations of the State, should bear a slight

additional tax in order to restore and protect those resources.

"This, Gentlemen, is the reason why you are asked to change Article 229

of the Constitution. You are already acquainted with the facts connected

with the natural resource depletion of this State, and I will not now

discuss that question. I am simply explaining to you, to the best of my

ability, the necessity of changing the Constitution as proposed in this

bill in order that we may have the proper source to raise a revenue in

order to carry out Conservation policies."

We succeeded in passing the amendment, and then passed the License-tax

or Revenue Act which provides the following taxes: 3/4 cent per 1,000

feet log scale on fine and hardwoods severed from the soil; 1 cent per

100 stave bolts; 3/10 cent for each telegraph and telephone pole; 1 cent

each for piles; 1/8 cent per cup per year for extracting turpentine from

growing trees; for production of oil, 2/5 cent per barrel; for natural

gas, 1/5 cent per 10,000 cubic feet; for mining sulphur, 2 cents per

ton; for mining salt, 1/5 cent per ton. The license-tax on timber will

yield about $20,000 annually, and the same amount will accrue from mines

and mining. The Conservation Commission will use these funds for the

protection and perpetuation of the State's natural resources.

The Forestry bill, which we consider a good one, was then passed. There

are no restrictions as to size-limit in cutting timber. Ample provisions

are made for a complete fire patrol system and methods for preventing

loss by fires. In Louisiana and all southern States, denuded lands will

reforest naturally if fires are prevented, and a good crop can be grown

in from 25 to 40 years. For any one who will engage in the business of

growing timber, especial inducements are held out. The assessment on the

land is fixed at $1.00 per acre for 30 or 40 years, and the growing

timber is not taxed during that period. The Deputy Forester must be a

man practically and theoretically educated in silviculture, and under

the State Forester has supervision of forestry work. Consent is also

given to the United States to acquire by gift or purchase not exceeding

100,000 acres for a National forest reserve; the State may also acquire

by gift or purchase lands for forest reserves.

Act 254 provides for the establishment of a department of mining and

minerals, including oil and gas production, authorizing the prohibition

of unsafe and wasteful mining and the appointment of a supervisor of

minerals on recommendation of the Conservation Commission.

Act 265 to "establish a Board of Commissioners for the protection of

Birds, Game, and Fish," empowers them to employ wardens, officers, and

assistants, and to provide means to carry the Act into effect; gives

them complete control and management of all the waters of the State,

such as the Gulf of Mexico (within the jurisdiction of the State), all

lakes, bays, sounds, rivers, streams, passes, bayous, creeks, lagoons,

and ponds by granting management and control of all fish, shell-fish,

oysters, diamond-back terrapin, turtles, shrimp, crabs, and alligators;

and provides for oyster, game, and fish reserves by granting them

control of birds, game, and fur-bearing animals, etc. Birds, game, and

fish are among the greatest natural resources of the State, yielding an

enormous food supply and a large revenue.

Act 57 declares that waters found in the bayous, lagoons, lakes, bays,

and rivers to be the property of the State. The idea is that the State

will not permit any one to create a monopoly of this resource, which

belongs to the people.

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