MR. W. W. GRENVILLE TO THE MARQUIS OF BUCKINGHAM.

Whitehall, April 1st, 1788.

My dear Brother,

I am extremely obliged for the trouble you have been so good as

to take about the mode in which it will be most advisable to

frame the grant of Rigby's office, in case of its becoming

vacant. I have consulted Pitt upon the subject, and his opinion

entirely agrees with mine, that the present form is much

preferable to the other; for this, amongst other reasons, that a

grant of a judicial office, to be held during good behaviour,

might be vacated on account of non-administration of justice, or

even of non-residence in the kingdom. He says that, after what

has passed with the King, there can clearly be no difficulty

whatever when the case arises; and that it will be better not to

open it previously to Lord Sydney, as it might by that means

become a subject of conversation previous to its taking place,

which it is very desirable to avoid. I imagine, by what I now

hear from Bath, that it cannot be very long before the event

happens. I shall certainly be on the spot, and will immediately

take the necessary steps for having the warrant sent over to

you; after which you may expect to see me as soon as possible,

unless it should be necessary that the admission should take

place in Term time, which I will trouble you to ascertain. It

would, I think, be very advantageous to me, in case of future

discussions which may arise on this subject, if you could

procure from the Chancellor and Lord Earlsfort, and perhaps

Carleton (when the event happens), written opinions that the

making it an efficient _judicial_ office would be attended with

no advantage or benefit. It would still remain necessary that

some officer should be appointed to have custody and charge of

the Rolls; and the only questions then would be, whether such an

office was one fit to be made the sort of sinecure which

Parliament here have admitted ought to exist as a reward of

public service, and whether your humble servant was a fit object

for such reward.

The point which I was desirous of mentioning to you in cypher

relates to my having been informed by Pitt, a few days before I

wrote to you, that Lord Howe has intimated an intention of

resigning his office at the close of this session. The

particular reason for secrecy is, that it is of the utmost

importance that this should not be publicly known till a new

arrangement is framed; but especially not till after the motion

on the subject of the late promotion is completely disposed of.

Notwithstanding this intimation, and the resolution which Lord

Howe appears to have taken, Pitt thinks it not impossible that

when the time for carrying it into execution draws nearer, he

may be induced to remain. Pitt feels it a point of the utmost

importance that he should, notwithstanding the sort of

objections which exist against him, and of which you are

perfectly apprized. But if he retires, there will be the utmost

difficulty in finding a proper person to supply his place. I

apprehend, that even before your appointment to Ireland you had

made up your mind on the subject; but that you would certainly

not be inclined to quit your present situation for one in so

many respects less agreeable, particularly at this moment. I

trust, however, that if you feel the least hesitation, or doubt,

in your mind, you will immediately let me know it, in order that

I may take the proper steps. If your decision remains the same,

I know no person at all fit for the employment that can take it.

The most likely person to be fixed upon is, I think, Lord Hood;

but there are great objections to him. Whatever he may be in the

Navy, which I know not, he is very far from being popular in the

House of Commons; and what is worse, he has spoken there,

whenever he has opened his lips, with a degree of indiscretion

which has been distressing, even in his present situation, but

which would be absolutely intolerable if he were to answer for

the execution of so responsible an office, made, as it certainly

will be, one of the great objects of attack on the part of

Opposition. This will make it necessary to send him up to the

House of Lords, for which he has neither fortune nor calibre

sufficient. It has been a question with Pitt and myself, whether

it would be possible for me to accept of it. At one time, he

appeared much disposed to this; but I must confess that my mind

has never gone to it at all. The situation would unquestionably

be highly flattering to me, at my time of life, and in my rank,

&c. The patronage annexed to it is so considerable as to be a

real object, in a political point of view, to any person engaged

in a public line of life, where the acquisition of friends is

always an important point. Add to this, the opportunity of

distinguishing oneself in a department entirely separate from

all others, and the temptation is certainly very great. But I

feel two material, and as they now strike me, insuperable

objections. First, I think it is not prudent for a person who

has already been put forward beyond what many people think his

pretensions entitle him to, and who has still much way to make

for himself, to incur the risk of shocking and revolting the

feelings of almost every one, but those who are most partial to

him, by accepting a situation for which he must be thought so

little qualified, and which will be judged so much above his

rank, either in point of general situation in the country, or

with respect to any official situation in which he has yet been

engaged. Besides this, I am unwilling--after having been

endeavouring for four or five years to qualify myself, in some

degree, for almost any other line of public service--that my

first ostensible _début_ should be in one where I should have

the first A B C to learn.

It is on these grounds that I have discouraged the idea when

Pitt threw it out to me, and I think they have had weight with

him. I have no doubt, that as far as respects my own interest

only, they are well founded; and that it will be infinitely more

advantageous to me to go on as I now am, waiting for such events

as may happen to open to me other objects, which I could accept

with less hazard. The same considerations operate, also, with a

view to the general interests of the system of Government in

which I am embarked. If I could essentially serve that, even at

a greater personal hazard than this, I should certainly feel

myself bound to do it. But the very same circumstances which

would make my appointment hurtful to my own character in the

present moment, would make it prejudicial to the general credit

of Pitt's Government; and the consequences of any failure would

hardly be more injurious to myself, personally, than to the

Administration of which I should then form a part. I have had an

explanation with Pitt, in the course of these discussions, on

the subject of Lord Sydney's office. He told me that he was

unwilling to remove him abruptly, without the means of making

him, at the same time, some sort of compensation; but that,

whenever any such opportunity offered, he should willingly and

eagerly embrace it. Lord Hardwicke's life, Barré's, the Duke of

Montagu's, Orde's and the Duke of Bolton's, with some others,

were mentioned as holding out no unreasonable or distant

prospect of such an arrangement. And I can with perfect

sincerity say to you--to whom I think aloud--that I am by no

means desirous that the interval should be so much shortened, as

to make the appointment immediate. I am in the train of making

myself fitter for it: in the enjoyment of as much confidence as

that office ever could give me, and with the consciousness of

being admitted to many opportunities of doing real service to

the Government that I act with. My present income is

sufficient--such an appointment would not in reality increase

it--and your goodness holds out to me a near prospect of that

future independence, which was the only thing wanting to make my

present situation perfectly happy. You see how little temptation

I have to exchange it even for that to which I have hitherto

looked; but much more for that which is so unexpectedly put

within my reach, but which is attended with so many hazards to

myself, and to the general system of Administration.

I much wish to receive your opinion on this whole subject, not

only as it is connected with myself, but as to the means of

finding any other person to undertake the office supposing me

out of the question. It is perfectly understood that the Duke of

Grafton would not accept it, which I certainly consider as a

very fortunate circumstance. With respect to yourself, I have

written the whole of what is above; and have listened to any

conversation on the subject, only in the idea that your opinion

will remain the same. I feel too much confidence in your good

opinion of me, to think it necessary to take up your time in

saying what you must unquestionably feel, that no conception of

competition on this point could ever enter into my head; and

that, even if I have taught myself to look to other situations

to which you have so much better a claim, it has only been in

consequence of what you have said to me on that subject, and

subject always to any alteration in your feelings with respect

to it.

I am prevented from saying more than a few words on the

different questions you ask. I mentioned to you, in my other

letter, the line which has been taken here with respect to the

Russian fleet, and to their application for transports. The same

line ought certainly to be followed in Ireland; but I think it

would be very important, for your own security, in so delicate a

business, that you should, whenever you receive any intimation

of anything of the sort being likely to occur in Ireland,

immediately state the particular point to Lord Sydney, in order

to receive precise orders upon it, for you see the line of

distinction which we draw here is a nice one.

Our Dutch alliance has passed the States of Holland, where alone

any difficulty was apprehended, and will probably be signed in

about a week. It will be immediately followed by a treaty, by

which Prussia and we shall bind ourselves to guarantee to each

other our engagements with Holland; but this treaty will not

extend to any general alliance between this country and Prussia.

The reason for this is, the apprehension that such an alliance

would rivet the connection between the two Imperial Courts and

France. In the meantime, there is an entire and perfect

understanding between this Court and that of Berlin. We have no

very accurate knowledge of the views of Spain. She is certainly

arming, though to much less extent than is talked of. I imagine

that France is trying to persuade her to acquiesce in the

Porte's being compelled to submit to the present demands of the

two Imperial Courts, which seem confined to Oxacow, Belgrade,

and some pecuniary compensation for the expense incurred. But I

think the Porte will clearly not submit to this, till she has

tried the success of one campaign; and what part Spain may take

in this event it is not easy to say.

Our accounts from India, by the 'Ravensworth,' are in general,

very good; but we are a little uneasy, on account of Tippoo, who

had made peace with the Marattas, and was collecting his forces

with a view of attacking the Nizam, or the Raja of Gravancore,

whom we must protect, or the Camatre itself. Campbell was

preparing for him; and I have little doubt of the event; but the

offence and mischief are formidable to us.

I have just received your letter of the 2nd, with the

usquebaugh, for which I am much obliged to you. I think there

can be no question of the King's acquiescence, and the

mentioning it to him now might set him talking. I have been

hindered, by a variety of accidents, from sending this letter

off before. It has been written at five or six different times.

Adieu, my dear brother,

Believe me ever most sincerely and affectionately yours,

W. W. G.

We have the same accounts from many different quarters, as that

which Miles sends you. The idea is certainly much talked of on

the continent; but I have no faith in it. France is, I think,

evidently in no better condition for war now than last year.

Their annual _compte_, which was promised for January in every

year, is not yet out. The report is, that the deficiency has

been found much greater than was ever imagined. Our revenue is

most prosperous.

Lord Buckingham appears to have pressed his views respecting the Home

Office so earnestly upon Mr. Grenville, that the latter, some months

afterwards, grew a little impatient of his zeal. The obstacle was, how

to provide for Lord Sydney.

I cannot (says Mr. Grenville, writing in September), even if I

wished it, drive Lord Sydney from his situation, without such an

opportunity as has not yet presented itself, and may not for a

considerable time to come. Even if that were done, I am by no

means clear that the difficulty would be removed.

The subject of the Rolls is resumed in subsequent letters.

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