MR. W. W. GRENVILLE TO LORD TEMPLE.

Pall Mall, Jan. 8th, 1783.

My dear Brother,

This morning I received your letter and despatch of the 3rd and

4th instant, and soon after, the enclosed note from Townshend.

The general idea is, that they have received the exceedingly bad

news of their negotiation being totally at an end; and the style

of this letter seems, I must own, to confirm it. Before I close

this letter, which shall not be till to-night, I shall most

probably know with certainty. If it should be so, I see nothing

in Lord Shelburne's conduct throughout this business, which can

prevent me from being convinced that he has foreseen this

conclusion, that the _acquiescence_ is to be ascribed to that

foresight, and to an intention of pledging you to some very

strong measure to be immediately proposed to Ireland--of men,

money, or some other support; and that his language about peace

was calculated for no other purpose than that of making to

himself a merit which he had not, and inducing me to pledge you

with less difficulty to something of this sort, in the

_improbable event_ of a continuation of the war. If that should

have been his aim, I have at least the consolation to reflect

that I made none but a _very_ general answer to that part of his

conversation to which I allude, and which I stated to you at

length in a former letter.

At the same time, I must freely own that I have been duped upon

the subject of peace; not so much by their assurances, strong as

those have been, and often as they have been repeated, as by the

opinion which I then held, and which I have not much altered

now, that a peace was absolutely necessary to their system of

government. However, be all this as it may, I think you are in a

situation to _voir venir_, and to rest upon your oars in full

confidence that you are now completely master of your own

ground, whether you are to be left to carry on the Government of

Ireland upon those principles on which you have begun it, and on

which alone we know it can be carried on with success, or

whether the system is to be altered, and committed, of course,

to other hands; in which there is no doubt but that the

ill-success and confusion that must follow will justify your

predictions to such a degree, and place your character in such a

light, as would almost make it an event to be wished for by you,

if it was not so fatal to the interests of both countries.

And this brings me to another point, in which I am very happy to

feel myself justified and confirmed by your instructions in that

line of conduct which I had fully resolved to adopt. I mean the

holding out the most peremptory refusal to making either you or

myself at all a party to postponing the business beyond the

21st, except in the single instance of their having some

proposition to bring forward then, about their negotiations, of

such a nature as to make the reason obvious to the mind of every

man in Ireland, as well as in England. In such a case I will

acquiesce, because I think I cannot in decency avoid it, under

the delay of one day only. In every other case which can be

supposed, I will claim a right to state to the House that the

delay is neither consented to by you, nor arises from you; but

is in your idea most pernicious. Surely, my own character and

honour, as well as your's, demand this from me.

I am sick to death of this scene. Since I wrote the first part

of my letter I have been to the levée, where I saw Townshend,

and learnt from him that Lord Camden had taken upon himself to

draw up a new preamble, which was _to soften on both

sides_.--(What the meaning of this curious expression is, I will

not pretend to say.) I then said, that at least I hoped it would

contain an _explicit_ recognition; because the measure would

only be useful, in proportion as it _was_ explicit. He agreed

with me, as he had always done, and wished that I had seen Lord

Camden. I asked if he was in town; he said he was to go back

to-day to Chiselhurst, and had desired _him_ to hold the

council, _in his absence, on Friday_. I immediately went home,

and wrote to Lord Camden, desiring to be allowed to wait upon

him; but he was gone. I have just sent your despatch of the 4th,

with the enclosed note to Townshend, which I hope will find him

before dinner. How little does all this agree with Lord

Shelburne's idea of doing what would be most satisfactory, and

with all my fine reasoning at the beginning of my letter!

I will certainly write to you more when I come back from dinner;

and, if I _can_ make him, Townshend shall write too, because

they cannot, upon paper, assign any good reason for the delay,

and a bad one will give you advantages. Upon the whole, what a

scene it is!

The news at Court was, that the negotiations are not broke off,

only delayed; and this I take to be the real case, as no letter

has been written to the Lord Mayor. If that be so, I shall of

course hear no more of it to-day.

Elliott is to have a Red Ribband.

Jan. 10.

I have delayed finishing this letter till this morning, in the

vain hope of being able to get something specific to propose to

you. After dinner, on the 8th, Townshend produced Lord Camden's

preamble. I send you a copy of it, and need not, I am sure,

observe to you how unsatisfactory it is to Ireland, and how

humiliating to Great Britain; and how perfect an ignorance it

shows, after all that has passed, of that business which is

referred to him for a decision. Neither Lord Shelburne,

Townshend, nor Pitt, who were present, attempted to defend it

against the observations I made upon it.

Some conversation passed upon it, after which Townshend went

away. The conversation then turned more particularly upon what

was to be done, in which the only very settled idea that I could

find was, that your preamble was not to be adopted.

Pitt then threw out the idea of declaring the intention of the

Act of Repeal, and making the new enacting clause a consequence

of the principles then adopted. We talked this over a little. I

pressed for something being settled to send over to you. The

answer Lord Shelburne gave me was, that the Cabinet lawyers were

all dispersed, and without them nothing could be finally

settled. Pitt then went away. I continued the conversation, and

asked Lord Shelburne if it would not be right, as he had

approved of Pitt's idea, that I should see Pitt, and endeavour

to put something upon paper upon it. In this he agreed.

When I went home, I sent the enclosed note to Pitt, and in

consequence of it saw him yesterday morning. I was near two

hours with him, drawing up something of a form. At last, the

Bill No. 1. was settled: more, I believe, because we were both

tired out with weighing words, than for any great merit that I

see in it. However, at the time I thought it might do; but in

the course of the day, thinking it over, I disliked it, and sent

the form No. 2. to Pitt, who desired to see me again. When I

went to him, he proposed, after some conversation, the Bill No.

3., which I took to consider.

But, in the meantime, I am _au dernier point_ at a loss what to

do in it; because, after an absence of six weeks, I know no more

of the present ideas of people in Ireland, and of the squabbles

and distinctions of words on which the whole turns, than the

Ministers here do; and less, God knows, I cannot know! If you

wait till something is formally sent you, I shall certainly be

reduced to the necessity either of putting the business off, or

of doing something in a hurry, without knowing whether it be

right or wrong. For you may depend upon it, that neither will

any of the unlearned Ministers pledge themselves to a specific

form, nor will the learned come from their rural retreats one

hour before the 17th.

In this situation I feel myself obliged to lay upon my oars, and

to entreat you to return the messenger as soon as possible, to

say whether any and which of the forms will do, or what kind of

thing I am to press for; for I am thrown quite wide. Your old

preamble they will not adopt except compelled to it. What their

objection is I cannot find; but most likely it is the dear

delight of alteration that operates upon them. If you think that

nothing short of saying "They have now the right" will do, for

God's sake say so explicitly in a despatch. I have never quite

lost my patience in this cursed business till this moment, and I

confess now I cannot quite preserve it. After having carried the

great point against their will and inclination, we shall now be

ruined by their delay and their damned country-houses.

If you don't like any of these forms I send you, and yet will

not _propose_ any other, for God's sake send one over to me that

_I_ may propose it, or bring their's as near as possible to it.

Pray return your messenger as soon as you can, for this

disappointment and anxiety works me more than I can express to

you. Adieu.

Believe me, my dearest brother,

Most affectionately yours,

W. W. G.

You will observe that these cursed delays have driven us so near

the mark, that it will be impossible for me to hear from you

again before the 21st. You will, therefore, send me your full

determination on every point, and in every case that you can

foresee. Nobody can feel more than I do the painful necessity of

being obliged to act upon my own judgment upon the general

contents of your letters, instead of acting up to any specific

idea. What increases my difficulty is the whole matter having

arisen since I left Ireland, and my consequent ignorance of the

language of individuals on every other part of the subject,

except the preamble you sent over, to which they were pledged.

Would to God that they would adhere to that!

Ever yours,

W. W. G.

Pray return Lord Camden's preamble.

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